Claiming a disability on the SAT/ACT - have people been gaming the system?

[Anonymous]

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Before you bitch about things being “unfair” , please let me tell you that I feel it is very unfair that my child was born with a moderate learning disability. I have no idea what causes it, but it affects his ability to understand language.
My child literally does not understand words when people speak them. That’s unfairness. It impacts almost all aspects of his life. So please don’t begrudge him extra time on a test and educate your children not to do so either.

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No one is begrudging your kid’s extra time. And u of all people should know how unfair it is for kids who are disadvantaged economically and have disabilities but yet don’t have accommodations. So why won’t u support untimed tests for all kids? Why let the abusers get away with this?[/quote]

I am the person who wrote the post about my child above. I have zero issues with everyone having an untimed test. “U” keep posting this over and over and it has nothing to do with my post.

I’m taking issue with ranting about “unfairness”. I think these people have no idea what it feels like to be dealt an unfair hand. They don’t know what it feels like to watch an entire preschool class lap your child developmentally. They don’t know what it feels like when someone asks your four year old a simple question like how old he is and there’s a lump in your throat because you know he won’t understand the question. They won’t understand that when he finally gets the question correctly it is because your husband spent 2 hours with him trying to help him understand. That every verbal interaction I have with him, I’m thinking about how I could make it more therapeutic for him. I’m so grateful that these accommodations exist and I hope they are still in place by the time he needs to take these tests.
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I have sympathy for you but I also realize that not every child has equal intelligence or processing speed. Why do you think your handicapped child deserves special treatment and where does it end?[/quote]

DP. The College Board has had this process in place for nearly 2 decades. Why do you think everything should stop just because your kid is rounding the corner on college applications and is looking too mediocre for the top schools? Do you realize that nearly all the kids who are beating him don’t have accommodations?[/quote]

So... you just asked “why do I think my handicapped child deserves special treatment”? He deserves special treatment because he has special challenges that your child does not. If he is going to succeed academically, he needs extra support. Your child doesn’t need that support and should easily be able to test just as well as my child.

And by the way, my child does not have slow processing speed or lesser intelligence- please don’t conflate disability in this fashion. It’s very ignorant. He is not mediocre in any way and works so hard to overcome his challenges- I’m so proud of him every day. He is 4 and not trying to boost a college application. I. Your kid will “beat” my kid three times a day and twice on Sunday- don’t worry about it. Despite the grim future in the “retarded” room that you think my kid deserves, I know my child has potential, and I’m just trying to make sure my kid has a chance at a bright future too.
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Proud of you mom. Don't let the idiots stop you. PP your assumption is that any kid with a disability is less than your kid. The parents of kids with disabilities know this. Even if my kid can out-math your kid 1 million times but he cant write of has issues with his attention, you think your kid deserves more. The IDEA was created to make sure our kids get the same access to education that yours does. Our keeds need the accommodations to show what is their level of ability. Just like the wearing glasses example.

I'm so disgusted by the undercurrent that our kids are less than in these posts. To assume that our kids won't be sucessful at college or at work because of their disabilites is an invalid stereotype.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Before you bitch about things being “unfair” , please let me tell you that I feel it is very unfair that my child was born with a moderate learning disability. I have no idea what causes it, but it affects his ability to understand language.
My child literally does not understand words when people speak them. That’s unfairness. It impacts almost all aspects of his life. So please don’t begrudge him extra time on a test and educate your children not to do so either.

No one is begrudging your kid’s extra time. And u of all people should know how unfair it is for kids who are disadvantaged economically and have disabilities but yet don’t have accommodations. So why won’t u support untimed tests for all kids? Why let the abusers get away with this?

I am the person who wrote the post about my child above. I have zero issues with everyone having an untimed test. “U” keep posting this over and over and it has nothing to do with my post.

I’m taking issue with ranting about “unfairness”. I think these people have no idea what it feels like to be dealt an unfair hand. They don’t know what it feels like to watch an entire preschool class lap your child developmentally. They don’t know what it feels like when someone asks your four year old a simple question like how old he is and there’s a lump in your throat because you know he won’t understand the question. They won’t understand that when he finally gets the question correctly it is because your husband spent 2 hours with him trying to help him understand. That every verbal interaction I have with him, I’m thinking about how I could make it more therapeutic for him. I’m so grateful that these accommodations exist and I hope they are still in place by the time he needs to take these tests.

I have sympathy for you but I also realize that not every child has equal intelligence or processing speed. Why do you think your handicapped child deserves special treatment and where does it end?

You are very hung up on processing speed. Is your fast and you think it makes your smarter? Because, it is very clear from your posts here that you lack solid intelligence and critical thinking skills. You should educate yourself just a little before making all these stupid posts.

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Anonymous wrote:Whoever the "u" poster is, I am having a hard time taking you remotely seriously because "u" sound so incoherent.

Why? Because u want to have accommodations for your child and damn those who can’t afford to get accommodations for theirs? Or r u the wealthy one who abused the system and hence don’t want the rural/poor/inner city kids to have same? It is not that difficult to understand - remove the extended time accommodation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Whoever the "u" poster is, I am having a hard time taking you remotely seriously because "u" sound so incoherent.

Why? Because u want to have accommodations for your child and damn those who can’t afford to get accommodations for theirs? Or r u the wealthy one who abused the system and hence don’t want the rural/poor/inner city kids to have same? It is not that difficult to understand - remove the extended time accommodation.

Why is it always rich vs. poor or black vs. white. Sounds like a lot of insecurity out there. I grew up with many disadvantages, but I did not blame rich people. I just put my nose to the grindstone and worked hard enough to be as rich or richer than them.

[Anonymous]

This is obviously a troll out here in the nether pages.

[Anonymous]

I see many of these posts like so much of parenting lately: people who love their kids and want the best for them, and in the process manage to hoard all the resources. When other people’s children aren’t that smart, we say oh well, those are the breaks. It must be the fault of their culture or their parenting or they don’t make enough money. But when our own children aren’t that smart they get extra time, help, guidance. I don’t begrudge anyone extra time, but then it should go to everyone. There are probably a heck of a lot of poor or immigrant kids whose parents never investigated their adhd or processing speed who could also benefit from extra time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I see many of these posts like so much of parenting lately: people who love their kids and want the best for them, and in the process manage to hoard all the resources. When other people’s children aren’t that smart, we say oh well, those are the breaks. It must be the fault of their culture or their parenting or they don’t make enough money. But when our own children aren’t that smart they get extra time, help, guidance. I don’t begrudge anyone extra time, but then it should go to everyone. There are probably a heck of a lot of poor or immigrant kids whose parents never investigated their adhd or processing speed who could also benefit from extra time.

I think there are three kinds of posters here:

-- no extra time for anyone
-- extra time for everyone
-- my kid needs extra time

You seem to think the third type is disagreeing with the second type, but they are only responding to the first.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I see many of these posts like so much of parenting lately: people who love their kids and want the best for them, and in the process manage to hoard all the resources. When other people’s children aren’t that smart, we say oh well, those are the breaks. It must be the fault of their culture or their parenting or they don’t make enough money. But when our own children aren’t that smart they get extra time, help, guidance. I don’t begrudge anyone extra time, but then it should go to everyone. There are probably a heck of a lot of poor or immigrant kids whose parents never investigated their adhd or processing speed who could also benefit from extra time.

I think there are three kinds of posters here:

-- no extra time for anyone
-- extra time for everyone
-- my kid needs extra time

You seem to think the third type is disagreeing with the second type, but they are only responding to the first.

+1000. Extra time for EVERYONE

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I see many of these posts like so much of parenting lately: people who love their kids and want the best for them, and in the process manage to hoard all the resources. When other people’s children aren’t that smart, we say oh well, those are the breaks. It must be the fault of their culture or their parenting or they don’t make enough money. But when our own children aren’t that smart they get extra time, help, guidance. I don’t begrudge anyone extra time, but then it should go to everyone. There are probably a heck of a lot of poor or immigrant kids whose parents never investigated their adhd or processing speed who could also benefit from extra time.

I think there are three kinds of posters here:

-- no extra time for anyone
-- extra time for everyone
-- my kid needs extra time

You seem to think the third type is disagreeing with the second type, but they are only responding to the first.

+1000. Extra time for EVERYONE

I don’t care if all kids get extra time or not, but I do care about the level of ignorance in this thread. It’s astounding. It’s not about smart. Do you think your kid is smarter than a dyslexic child? Please stop equati g disability with intelligence. And there are plenty of immigrants making use of county services and/or health insurance. “Immigrants” and “poor people” are also not stupid/ignorant and seek out help for their children.

[Anonymous]

+ 1 to 9:19.

This thread is also filled with intolerance and lack of empathy.

Should not be surprised, but I am.

[Anonymous]

Faking it exaggerating a disability to gain accommodations is rampant and the parents are behind it all.

[Anonymous]

To the posters who are pushing for extra time for all students:

My DC received a scribe and a reader in addition to 50% extra time. Do you think that all students should get a scribe and a reader too? Or is it just the extra time accommodation that you have qualms about?

FWIW, the 50% extra time is automatically given if a student receives a scribe/reader accommodation because it takes longer to take the test with a reader/scribe.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I see many of these posts like so much of parenting lately: people who love their kids and want the best for them, and in the process manage to hoard all the resources. When other people’s children aren’t that smart, we say oh well, those are the breaks. It must be the fault of their culture or their parenting or they don’t make enough money. But when our own children aren’t that smart they get extra time, help, guidance. I don’t begrudge anyone extra time, but then it should go to everyone. There are probably a heck of a lot of poor or immigrant kids whose parents never investigated their adhd or processing speed who could also benefit from extra time.

I think there are three kinds of posters here:

-- no extra time for anyone
-- extra time for everyone
-- my kid needs extra time

You seem to think the third type is disagreeing with the second type, but they are only responding to the first.

+1000. Extra time for EVERYONE

I don’t care if all kids get extra time or not, but I do care about the level of ignorance in this thread. It’s astounding. It’s not about smart. Do you think your kid is smarter than a dyslexic child? Please stop equati g disability with intelligence. And there are plenty of immigrants making use of county services and/or health insurance. “Immigrants” and “poor people” are also not stupid/ignorant and seek out help for their children.

No one said they were stupid or ignorant, jeez. But it is 100% true that test accommodations are much more common among the affluent than the poor. Ask the private school posters on here. It’s a gimmick. I guarantee you the half of the low-income kids at my high school who take the SAT at all are not taking it with special orders from expensive doctors.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:To the posters who are pushing for extra time for all students:

My DC received a scribe and a reader in addition to 50% extra time. Do you think that all students should get a scribe and a reader too? Or is it just the extra time accommodation that you have qualms about?

FWIW, the 50% extra time is automatically given if a student receives a scribe/reader accommodation because it takes longer to take the test with a reader/scribe.

No, because I don’t believe a scribe would help your average student at all. I definitely believe extra time would help your average student. I think a lot of people on here agree with me.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I see many of these posts like so much of parenting lately: people who love their kids and want the best for them, and in the process manage to hoard all the resources. When other people’s children aren’t that smart, we say oh well, those are the breaks. It must be the fault of their culture or their parenting or they don’t make enough money. But when our own children aren’t that smart they get extra time, help, guidance. I don’t begrudge anyone extra time, but then it should go to everyone. There are probably a heck of a lot of poor or immigrant kids whose parents never investigated their adhd or processing speed who could also benefit from extra time.

I think there are three kinds of posters here:

-- no extra time for anyone
-- extra time for everyone
-- my kid needs extra time

You seem to think the third type is disagreeing with the second type, but they are only responding to the first.

+1000. Extra time for EVERYONE

I don’t care if all kids get extra time or not, but I do care about the level of ignorance in this thread. It’s astounding. It’s not about smart. Do you think your kid is smarter than a dyslexic child? Please stop equati g disability with intelligence. And there are plenty of immigrants making use of county services and/or health insurance. “Immigrants” and “poor people” are also not stupid/ignorant and seek out help for their children.

No one said they were stupid or ignorant, jeez. But it is 100% true that test accommodations are much more common among the affluent than the poor. Ask the private school posters on here. It’s a gimmick. I guarantee you the half of the low-income kids at my high school who take the SAT at all are not taking it with special orders from expensive doctors.

Stop pretending that you know anything about the low income kids at your child’s school. Stop pretending you know anything about parenting a child with a disability. Apart from some anecdotes on this thread about Larla’s cousin who famed the system, the majority of the outraged people here know little to nothing about raising a child with a disability and the work and advocacy that goes into ensuring they have accommodations in their school. It’s not just “hire an expensive doctor”. Christ.