Baby stealing approved in South Carolina!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Np here. Clearly those who had the means won out. The biggest loser is the girl, who is going to resent her adoptive parents when she is old enough to understand the truth. The fake parents and their supporters should be ashamed.

Hello again, madame/monsieur sockpuppet.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Deadbeat or not he is her father. THIS CHIlLD DOESN'T NEED AN ADOPTIVE FAMILY. She has a biological family willing to raise her. Period, end of story.

Adoption isn't about finding families for children but children for families. Her needs are irrelevant.

Such a sad outcome, and coming right after that Reuters article too.

Yep. Nailed it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Np here. Clearly those who had the means won out. The biggest loser is the girl, who is going to resent her adoptive parents when she is old enough to understand the truth. The fake parents and their supporters should be ashamed.

Hello again, madame/monsieur sockpuppet.

Not sure why you think everyone who doesn't agree with you is a sockpuppet, but whatever helps you sleep at night....

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Deadbeat or not he is her father. THIS CHIlLD DOESN'T NEED AN ADOPTIVE FAMILY. She has a biological family willing to raise her. Period, end of story.

You can't change your mind when it comes to being a parent. Biological or adoptive, it doesn't matter - both are capable of being shitty (and I think wavering on when you want to be involved is pretty damn shitty). What matters is the specifics on a case by case situation. Period. End of story.

Birth mothers change their minds. Parents of kids in foster Care get their kids back after being strung out on crack for a few yrs. The point is she HAS a family. There are hundreds of thousands of children around the world available for adoption. The C's should adopt one of them. And even if he did knowingly sign away his rights she still has a huge extended biological family who want to raise her.

NP (okay, I've posted before on this thread, but not lately): In Oklahoma, mothers and fathers have 30 days to change their mind about adoption. It's a big step, and you're allowed to say yes and then take it back. In South Carolina, where the Capobiancos live but not where the birth mother, birth father, or where Baby Veronica was born, fathers don't get any time period for any say at all.

So you can say that "you can't change your mind," but really it depends on how good you are at forum-shopping. Which the Capobiancos are good at.

This is the crux of it, right here. This is why adoption reform is so sorely needed in this country.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Np here. Clearly those who had the means won out. The biggest loser is the girl, who is going to resent her adoptive parents when she is old enough to understand the truth. The fake parents and their supporters should be ashamed.

Hello again, madame/monsieur sockpuppet.

Not sure why you think everyone who doesn't agree with you is a sockpuppet, but whatever helps you sleep at night....

Because you are so clearly posting as a new poster, and denying it. The same words, the same phrasing, the same style--t's embarrassing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Np here. Clearly those who had the means won out. The biggest loser is the girl, who is going to resent her adoptive parents when she is old enough to understand the truth. The fake parents and their supporters should be ashamed.

Hello again, madame/monsieur sockpuppet.

Not sure why you think everyone who doesn't agree with you is a sockpuppet, but whatever helps you sleep at night....

Because you are so clearly posting as a new poster, and denying it. The same words, the same phrasing, the same style--t's embarrassing.

Um, okay? I just started posting in this thread. Ask Jeff if you're so concerned about it. You are the one who is sounding crazy.

[Anonymous]

PP here again. You really think that there's only one person in the world who thinks this case was a horrible injustice? If so, you're delusional.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:PP here again. You really think that there's only one person in the world who thinks this case was a horrible injustice? If so, you're delusional.

There are at least several as I posted some of the posts but not others. I am a mom through adoption and I think what they did was horrible. They should be ashamed of themselves. We need adoption reform to protect families on both sides.

[Anonymous]

The birth mother testified that she wanted to keep the adoption "low key" and admitted that she did not inform the father of her plans to adopt the kid out. There are countless other kids that have been adopted out in spite of involved and active fatheres protests. Lawyers have a stake in this. It brings revenue in. Read up on the John Wyatt case. He was duped by a local DC attorney, Mark McDermott. The court records speak for themselves. Adoption is wonderful when a child needs a home. It is not, or should not be to provide a baby to whatever infertile couple can pay the most money.

I am sure none of us would want this to happen to one of our sons. The Veronica case no doubt will set a precedent that fathers rights do not matter.

[Anonymous]

Excerpt from the court records of the John Wyatt (baby Emma) case-(Fahland is the birthmom).-

"Without Wyatt's knowledge, Fahland's parents retained attorney Mark McDermott to arrange for an adoption. While Fahland informed Wyatt of her parents' desire that she see an adoption attorney, she assured Wyatt that they would raise the baby as a family. During a January 30, 2009 meeting with McDermott, Fahland signed a form identifying Wyatt as the birth father and indicating that he wanted to keep the baby. Fahland offered to provide Wyatt's address, but McDermott told her to falsely indicate on the form that the address was unknown to her, which she did. She also signed an agreement in which she requested that the adoptive parents discuss adoption plans with the birth father. Wyatt was "purposely kept in the dark" about this meeting, and Fahland continued to make false statements to Wyatt at the urging of McDermott, indicating that she planned to raise the baby with Wyatt, with the purpose that he would not take steps to secure his parental rights and prevent the adoption."

[Anonymous]

The Cobiancos have sued Dusten Brown for expenses and want $0.5 mil. He must pay for their legal expenses and $32,000 for each day they had to wait for the last 7 weeks, and living expenses in OK

Sounds like he will not be able to see his kid again.

OK governor has asked the SC courts to drop charges against Dusten. I wonder if he can even be found guilty when what he did was not even illegal. Somehow the SC courts decided to finalize and refused all appeals. Can that really be legal?

The OK courts could still consider the 'best interests' clause, but I wonder if they will.

Cannot believe a kid can be adopted without the parents consent, Dusten did not sign his rights away. He signed a document giving his ex sole custody. After he found out the consequences of it he withdrew his consent. Adoption papers are not legal if they were signed without informed consent. Even the SC courts agree to this. They got away with it because under SC law a father has rights only if he lives with the woman for 6 months of the pregnancy. OK has no such exclusion, but courts in SC got jurisdiction because the adoptive parents took he kid there before anything was finalized in OK

[Anonymous]

Have the adoptive parents thought through what they are going to tell this child when she's a teenager and starts googling her name? How do they think she is going to feel when she realizes her parents kept her away from her birth family?

[Anonymous]

They have 10 years to brainwash her and then once she is a teen and finds out the truth, she will rebel and despise them.
I hope she leaves them as a teen and never looks back. This was not an adoption, this was child trafficking. I cannot believe that our country allows these things to go on.

[Anonymous]

"The last few days without Veronica in our home have been more painful than words can describe. We are heartbroken at the loss of our daughter. I moved heaven and earth for two years to bring Veronica home to her family where she belongs. And when I finally picked her up for the journey back to Oklahoma two years ago, we looked into each other’s eyes and it was like we had always been together. That bond was instantaneous, and nothing can break it. Veronica is my child, my flesh and blood, and I love her more than life itself. And to our daughter, Veronica—Mommy and Daddy love you and miss you so much, and we cannot wait until we see you again. We will see you again.”Dusten and Robin Brown

[Anonymous]

Utterly heartbreaking...may none of us or our children ever be the victim of such corruption.