MCPS updated calendar is insane

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Anonymous wrote:So seniors and senior teachers are done 5 weeks earlier!

It would be a lot better for high school students to start a week earlier in August (build in a normal amount of snow days, and if not used can end early.)

No.

Weird that you'd rather have usless half days tacked on to the end of the year. Education isn't a priority for your family?

DP

How silly. Maximizing days and minutes is important because lower income families benefit a lot. Those of us who “prioritize education” as you put it don’t need this in the same way.

Are you low income? If so get off here and get a job. If not, stop using others as talking points for your wants. They aren’t complaining, you are.

Are you an MCPS staffer? I hope not, because you sound like a rotten human being, to berate anyone who cares about lower income families. You should get off here and find some morality in your life, rather than harassing people who care about how kids get educated.

+1 I see awful stuff posted on DCUM pretty regularly, but "Are you low income? If so get off here and get a job." takes the cake. i hope people realize that their IP addresses are linked with their posts, and that these are not truly anonymous.

Agree that that wins the most obnoxious post in the MCPS forum, and there is some stiff competition.

Obnoxious is wealthy parents using others as talking points.

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Anonymous wrote:So seniors and senior teachers are done 5 weeks earlier!

It would be a lot better for high school students to start a week earlier in August (build in a normal amount of snow days, and if not used can end early.)

No.

Weird that you'd rather have usless half days tacked on to the end of the year. Education isn't a priority for your family?

DP

How silly. Maximizing days and minutes is important because lower income families benefit a lot. Those of us who “prioritize education” as you put it don’t need this in the same way.

Are you low income? If so get off here and get a job. If not, stop using others as talking points for your wants. They aren’t complaining, you are.

Are you an MCPS staffer? I hope not, because you sound like a rotten human being, to berate anyone who cares about lower income families. You should get off here and find some morality in your life, rather than harassing people who care about how kids get educated.

+1 I see awful stuff posted on DCUM pretty regularly, but "Are you low income? If so get off here and get a job." takes the cake. i hope people realize that their IP addresses are linked with their posts, and that these are not truly anonymous.

Agree that that wins the most obnoxious post in the MCPS forum, and there is some stiff competition.

Obnoxious is wealthy parents using others as talking points.

I’m still so unclear about the example you picked and what your problem was with it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So seniors and senior teachers are done 5 weeks earlier!

It would be a lot better for high school students to start a week earlier in August (build in a normal amount of snow days, and if not used can end early.)

No.

Weird that you'd rather have usless half days tacked on to the end of the year. Education isn't a priority for your family?

DP

How silly. Maximizing days and minutes is important because lower income families benefit a lot. Those of us who “prioritize education” as you put it don’t need this in the same way.

Are you low income? If so get off here and get a job. If not, stop using others as talking points for your wants. They aren’t complaining, you are.

I’m not complaining or using them as a talking point, just acknowledging competing interests. I hope they count minutes and cut that extra week. I hope they count minutes permanently.

Low income families aren't complaining. You are and using them as talking points to meet your needs which is offensive. These extra days at the end help no one as teachers often stop teaching at least a week or two before school ends.

What evidence do you have that "low income families aren't complaining." Please cite official sources, rather than speaking for them and using them as your talking point.

You show us the evidence beyond you here as the talking point.

Are you a bot or just hopelessly dumb? You’re the one making assertions on behalf of “low income families.” Obviously you can’t back them up.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So seniors and senior teachers are done 5 weeks earlier!

It would be a lot better for high school students to start a week earlier in August (build in a normal amount of snow days, and if not used can end early.)

No.

Weird that you'd rather have usless half days tacked on to the end of the year. Education isn't a priority for your family?

DP

How silly. Maximizing days and minutes is important because lower income families benefit a lot. Those of us who “prioritize education” as you put it don’t need this in the same way.

Are you low income? If so get off here and get a job. If not, stop using others as talking points for your wants. They aren’t complaining, you are.

Are you an MCPS staffer? I hope not, because you sound like a rotten human being, to berate anyone who cares about lower income families. You should get off here and find some morality in your life, rather than harassing people who care about how kids get educated.

+1 I see awful stuff posted on DCUM pretty regularly, but "Are you low income? If so get off here and get a job." takes the cake. i hope people realize that their IP addresses are linked with their posts, and that these are not truly anonymous.

Agree that that wins the most obnoxious post in the MCPS forum, and there is some stiff competition.

Obnoxious is wealthy parents using others as talking points.

Bingo

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So seniors and senior teachers are done 5 weeks earlier!

It would be a lot better for high school students to start a week earlier in August (build in a normal amount of snow days, and if not used can end early.)

No.

Weird that you'd rather have usless half days tacked on to the end of the year. Education isn't a priority for your family?

DP

How silly. Maximizing days and minutes is important because lower income families benefit a lot. Those of us who “prioritize education” as you put it don’t need this in the same way.

Are you low income? If so get off here and get a job. If not, stop using others as talking points for your wants. They aren’t complaining, you are.

Are you an MCPS staffer? I hope not, because you sound like a rotten human being, to berate anyone who cares about lower income families. You should get off here and find some morality in your life, rather than harassing people who care about how kids get educated.

+1 I see awful stuff posted on DCUM pretty regularly, but "Are you low income? If so get off here and get a job." takes the cake. i hope people realize that their IP addresses are linked with their posts, and that these are not truly anonymous.

Agree that that wins the most obnoxious post in the MCPS forum, and there is some stiff competition.

Obnoxious is wealthy parents using others as talking points.

As opposed to telling low income families to “get off here and get a job”. No that’s pretty much the bottom of the barrel.

[Anonymous]

Wha happens if we get snow next Monday and Tuesday?

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Anonymous wrote:So seniors and senior teachers are done 5 weeks earlier!

It would be a lot better for high school students to start a week earlier in August (build in a normal amount of snow days, and if not used can end early.)

Do you have high school kids? Sports and marching band start two weeks earlier.

So they can start earlier. Geez guys, I know change is hard but your kids will adapt better than you.

That means our kids get pretty much no summer and it's an issue with working jobs. Don't your teens work? Jobs expect them to keep working as the college kids go back. Oh wait, you are priviileged and your kids don't work.

Only kids 14+ have jobs. MCPS starts at age 5, so it doesn't seem like you're considering the greater good here. And even for those 14+, you are prioritizing a summer job over teens have a schedule that would give them 180 days of education that would equip them to be qualified for future jobs. That's your opinion. Many would disagree.

Yeah but it doesn't stop the AP crowd from trying to have the whole system designed around their schedule. Why should MCPS worry about AP testing when 80% of the students in the county aren't taking them?

I don't see anyone trying to design the "whole system" around the AP schedule. MCPS has a problem not planning for snow days when it builds its calendar. My kids aren't even in high school yet but it makes more sense to me to go back to actually building ~4 days into the calendar then tacking on useless half days in June. The latter benefits no one. Starting a few days earlier in August would provide an ADDITIONAL benefit for students taking AP classes while providing more schedule certianty during a year of average snowfall.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Wha happens if we get snow next Monday and Tuesday?

They apply for a waiver again.

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Anonymous wrote:So seniors and senior teachers are done 5 weeks earlier!

It would be a lot better for high school students to start a week earlier in August (build in a normal amount of snow days, and if not used can end early.)

Do you have high school kids? Sports and marching band start two weeks earlier.

So they can start earlier. Geez guys, I know change is hard but your kids will adapt better than you.

That means our kids get pretty much no summer and it's an issue with working jobs. Don't your teens work? Jobs expect them to keep working as the college kids go back. Oh wait, you are priviileged and your kids don't work.

Only kids 14+ have jobs. MCPS starts at age 5, so it doesn't seem like you're considering the greater good here. And even for those 14+, you are prioritizing a summer job over teens have a schedule that would give them 180 days of education that would equip them to be qualified for future jobs. That's your opinion. Many would disagree.

Yeah but it doesn't stop the AP crowd from trying to have the whole system designed around their schedule. Why should MCPS worry about AP testing when 80% of the students in the county aren't taking them?

I don't see anyone trying to design the "whole system" around the AP schedule. MCPS has a problem not planning for snow days when it builds its calendar. My kids aren't even in high school yet but it makes more sense to me to go back to actually building ~4 days into the calendar then tacking on useless half days in June. The latter benefits no one. Starting a few days earlier in August would provide an ADDITIONAL benefit for students taking AP classes while providing more schedule certianty during a year of average snowfall.

+1. This. My kids aren’t AP age yet, but even for my younger kids, I would rather they return to school earlier in August and get an additional week of learning in rather than have them lose a week of education due to this snow day mess and all these late June half days where people say most teachers are going to be absent.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So what 3 contingency days could have been used?
March 20, June 18 and ??
Just do that and resubmit. June 25 is outrageous for a last day

April 15 was the other one.

They should just take the asterisks off the contingency days on next year's calendar, they're a joke.

Great! Let’s do that. I’m not working after June 18.

LOL, so glad my kids are in private. This attitude is exactly why public schools continue to decline.

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Anonymous wrote:So what 3 contingency days could have been used?
March 20, June 18 and ??
Just do that and resubmit. June 25 is outrageous for a last day

April 15 was the other one.

They should just take the asterisks off the contingency days on next year's calendar, they're a joke.

Great! Let’s do that. I’m not working after June 18.

LOL, so glad my kids are in private. This attitude is exactly why public schools continue to decline.

I don’t blame this teacher because my kids are going to school after the 18th.

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Anonymous wrote:So seniors and senior teachers are done 5 weeks earlier!

It would be a lot better for high school students to start a week earlier in August (build in a normal amount of snow days, and if not used can end early.)

Do you have high school kids? Sports and marching band start two weeks earlier.

So they can start earlier. Geez guys, I know change is hard but your kids will adapt better than you.

That means our kids get pretty much no summer and it's an issue with working jobs. Don't your teens work? Jobs expect them to keep working as the college kids go back. Oh wait, you are priviileged and your kids don't work.

Only kids 14+ have jobs. MCPS starts at age 5, so it doesn't seem like you're considering the greater good here. And even for those 14+, you are prioritizing a summer job over teens have a schedule that would give them 180 days of education that would equip them to be qualified for future jobs. That's your opinion. Many would disagree.

Yeah but it doesn't stop the AP crowd from trying to have the whole system designed around their schedule. Why should MCPS worry about AP testing when 80% of the students in the county aren't taking them?

I don't see anyone trying to design the "whole system" around the AP schedule. MCPS has a problem not planning for snow days when it builds its calendar. My kids aren't even in high school yet but it makes more sense to me to go back to actually building ~4 days into the calendar then tacking on useless half days in June. The latter benefits no one. Starting a few days earlier in August would provide an ADDITIONAL benefit for students taking AP classes while providing more schedule certianty during a year of average snowfall.

+1. This. My kids aren’t AP age yet, but even for my younger kids, I would rather they return to school earlier in August and get an additional week of learning in rather than have them lose a week of education due to this snow day mess and all these late June half days where people say most teachers are going to be absent.

+2. Same here, kids are also younger. But I seriously don't get the opposition to tacking on a couple extra days in August, building in snow days, and actually planning a rational schedule. In this context, what's good for AP classes is good for the rest of the students as well!

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Anonymous wrote:So seniors and senior teachers are done 5 weeks earlier!

It would be a lot better for high school students to start a week earlier in August (build in a normal amount of snow days, and if not used can end early.)

Do you have high school kids? Sports and marching band start two weeks earlier.

So they can start earlier. Geez guys, I know change is hard but your kids will adapt better than you.

That means our kids get pretty much no summer and it's an issue with working jobs. Don't your teens work? Jobs expect them to keep working as the college kids go back. Oh wait, you are priviileged and your kids don't work.

Only kids 14+ have jobs. MCPS starts at age 5, so it doesn't seem like you're considering the greater good here. And even for those 14+, you are prioritizing a summer job over teens have a schedule that would give them 180 days of education that would equip them to be qualified for future jobs. That's your opinion. Many would disagree.

Yeah but it doesn't stop the AP crowd from trying to have the whole system designed around their schedule. Why should MCPS worry about AP testing when 80% of the students in the county aren't taking them?

I don't see anyone trying to design the "whole system" around the AP schedule. MCPS has a problem not planning for snow days when it builds its calendar. My kids aren't even in high school yet but it makes more sense to me to go back to actually building ~4 days into the calendar then tacking on useless half days in June. The latter benefits no one. Starting a few days earlier in August would provide an ADDITIONAL benefit for students taking AP classes while providing more schedule certianty during a year of average snowfall.

+1. This. My kids aren’t AP age yet, but even for my younger kids, I would rather they return to school earlier in August and get an additional week of learning in rather than have them lose a week of education due to this snow day mess and all these late June half days where people say most teachers are going to be absent.

+2. Same here, kids are also younger. But I seriously don't get the opposition to tacking on a couple extra days in August, building in snow days, and actually planning a rational schedule. In this context, what's good for AP classes is good for the rest of the students as well!

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It’s just not necessary to remove a week from summer (bc even a mid-week start would take away a week) when you can:
- convert transition day to a 1/2 day the week prior
- get rid of religious holidays (and provide excused absences) observed by less than 5% (includes Easter Monday - yes that means a state law change, but don’t see why that’s a heavy lift)
- convert grading full days to 2 half days

Doing all of the above would get something like 7-8 more days, but you could do some of them to get 3 snow days.
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[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So seniors and senior teachers are done 5 weeks earlier!

It would be a lot better for high school students to start a week earlier in August (build in a normal amount of snow days, and if not used can end early.)

Do you have high school kids? Sports and marching band start two weeks earlier.

So they can start earlier. Geez guys, I know change is hard but your kids will adapt better than you.

That means our kids get pretty much no summer and it's an issue with working jobs. Don't your teens work? Jobs expect them to keep working as the college kids go back. Oh wait, you are priviileged and your kids don't work.

Only kids 14+ have jobs. MCPS starts at age 5, so it doesn't seem like you're considering the greater good here. And even for those 14+, you are prioritizing a summer job over teens have a schedule that would give them 180 days of education that would equip them to be qualified for future jobs. That's your opinion. Many would disagree.

Yeah but it doesn't stop the AP crowd from trying to have the whole system designed around their schedule. Why should MCPS worry about AP testing when 80% of the students in the county aren't taking them?

I don't see anyone trying to design the "whole system" around the AP schedule. MCPS has a problem not planning for snow days when it builds its calendar. My kids aren't even in high school yet but it makes more sense to me to go back to actually building ~4 days into the calendar then tacking on useless half days in June. The latter benefits no one. Starting a few days earlier in August would provide an ADDITIONAL benefit for students taking AP classes while providing more schedule certianty during a year of average snowfall.

+1. This. My kids aren’t AP age yet, but even for my younger kids, I would rather they return to school earlier in August and get an additional week of learning in rather than have them lose a week of education due to this snow day mess and all these late June half days where people say most teachers are going to be absent.

+2. Same here, kids are also younger. But I seriously don't get the opposition to tacking on a couple extra days in August, building in snow days, and actually planning a rational schedule. In this context, what's good for AP classes is good for the rest of the students as well!

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It’s just not necessary to remove a week from summer (bc even a mid-week start would take away a week) when you can:
- convert transition day to a 1/2 day the week prior
- get rid of religious holidays (and provide excused absences) observed by less than 5% (includes Easter Monday - yes that means a state law change, but don’t see why that’s a heavy lift)
- convert grading full days to 2 half days

Doing all of the above would get something like 7-8 more days, but you could do some of them to get 3 snow days.
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It's hard to take you seriously with statements like this. But I am curious which religous holidays you think are celebrated by less than 5%- maybe Eid and Diwali? Pretty positive that Easter and the Jewish holidays meet the 5% threshold.

How many grading days do teachers get? Teachers I know already do so much grading on their own time, taking away the few dedicated grading days is just crummy. Your kids would be fine going back a few days earlier.

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The excused absences for religious holidays argument is kind of difficult because I don't think we can legally require families and students to state their religious beliefs. As a teacher I am pretty sure I can get in a lot of trouble if I asked students to prove they observed a religious holiday in order to get an excused absence or extension on an assignment.