Greendland - why not?

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Anonymous wrote:Setting aside how he has gone about it, what's wrong with the idea of Greenland joining the US. It cannot be negative for the very small population over there, and could be positive for them. As for the US many many benefits. So, setting aside the rhetoric, what's wrong?

It's a sovereign country, just like we are. It's their choice.

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Anonymous wrote:Negotiations with Denmark are starting soon.

Greenland is needed for the long-term defense of the USA, the Western Hemisphere, and of the EU.

If NATO is to stay intact, the USA must have Greenland. Failure of Greenlanders & Denmark to make a deal with the USA will result in the USA withdrawing from NATO. The USA doesn't need NATO anywhere near as much as the other NATO countries need the USA.

NATO is much more valuable to the US vs EU. Without NATO the US will not have access to European and many navy/Air Force bases around the world. The US could not attack Iran without NATO and Diego Garcia. Yes the European are concerned about Russia but they are not scared of Russia.

Russia is not able to invade Ukraine a country with a 10th of its GDP and a 5th of its population. How would Russia invade NATO? NATO without the US has 5 times Russia’s population and 15 times its GDP.

You people make statements without facts. Without NATO the US will have to spend 5 times what it’s now does on defense and would still be a lot less capable. The logistics alone are non replaceable-no medical facilities Landstuhl Regional Medical Center, no air tankers, no access to EU airspace, no resupply of the fleet, no forwards deployed equipment, etc. If NATO ends it would cripple the US military.

Kicking the US out of bases in Europe would have a lot of negative economic consequences for those communities, so I don’t think most countries actually do it. Makes sense to bluff about it I guess.

It would be more negative to us. Let me tell you that I just left Europe and the folks we talked to were like "shut the bases."

Oh corse they do. They do not want a hostile force on their soil.

[Anonymous]

[Anonymous]

Sweden is now sending military forces to Greenland to defend it against a possible U.S. invasion.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Sweden is now sending military forces to Greenland to defend it against a possible U.S. invasion.

So is Norway, and Germany. All decided since 50 minute talks with Vance and Rubio didn’t go well.

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Lmao at the undecided.

Wtf?

[Anonymous]

“But the mere fact that a Danish diplomat felt the need to publicly defend his country’s territorial sovereignty against what is supposed to be his closest ally is remarkably dark.”

From the Guardian

US acquisition of Greenland ‘absolutely not necessary,’ Danish foreign minister says after ‘frank’ talks with JD Vance – Europe live

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Setting aside how he has gone about it, what's wrong with the idea of Greenland joining the US. It cannot be negative for the very small population over there, and could be positive for them. As for the US many many benefits. So, setting aside the rhetoric, what's wrong?

Why not because they do not want to join the USA. Secondly we do not have many of the social democratic benefits they currently have like universal health care, free education, etc....

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Negotiations with Denmark are starting soon.

Greenland is needed for the long-term defense of the USA, the Western Hemisphere, and of the EU.

If NATO is to stay intact, the USA must have Greenland. Failure of Greenlanders & Denmark to make a deal with the USA will result in the USA withdrawing from NATO. The USA doesn't need NATO anywhere near as much as the other NATO countries need the USA.

NATO is much more valuable to the US vs EU. Without NATO the US will not have access to European and many navy/Air Force bases around the world. The US could not attack Iran without NATO and Diego Garcia. Yes the European are concerned about Russia but they are not scared of Russia.

Russia is not able to invade Ukraine a country with a 10th of its GDP and a 5th of its population. How would Russia invade NATO? NATO without the US has 5 times Russia’s population and 15 times its GDP.

You people make statements without facts. Without NATO the US will have to spend 5 times what it’s now does on defense and would still be a lot less capable. The logistics alone are non replaceable-no medical facilities Landstuhl Regional Medical Center, no air tankers, no access to EU airspace, no resupply of the fleet, no forwards deployed equipment, etc. If NATO ends it would cripple the US military.

Kicking the US out of bases in Europe would have a lot of negative economic consequences for those communities, so I don’t think most countries actually do it. Makes sense to bluff about it I guess.

It would be more negative to us. Let me tell you that I just left Europe and the folks we talked to were like "shut the bases."

Oh corse they do. They do not want a hostile force on their soil.

So do they not want a hostile force or are they bluffing b/c they need the economic boost from our presence? You all are making conflicting arguments.

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France now sending troops to Greenland as well as Germany, Sweden, Norway, to join danish troops - to defend against USA.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:France now sending troops to Greenland as well as Germany, Sweden, Norway, to join danish troops - to defend against USA.

What a waste. We are not invading anyone. Good LORD

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:France now sending troops to Greenland as well as Germany, Sweden, Norway, to join danish troops - to defend against USA.

While I’m sure the answer is no: is the GOP is Congress doing anything more than “expressing concern” or telling us to take Trump “seriously but not literally”?

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Anonymous wrote:Sweden is now sending military forces to Greenland to defend it against a possible U.S. invasion.

So is Norway, and Germany. All decided since 50 minute talks with Vance and Rubio didn’t go well.

Let's not forget this when Vance and Rubio try to do a makeover once Trump is dragged out of office.

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Anonymous wrote:France now sending troops to Greenland as well as Germany, Sweden, Norway, to join danish troops - to defend against USA.

While I’m sure the answer is no: is the GOP is Congress doing anything more than “expressing concern” or telling us to take Trump “seriously but not literally”?

There are bipartisan bills against this being drafted in both the house and the senate.