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If you were smart enough to grasp the context of the conversation, you'd realize we were discussing how Biden's weak leadership weak led to the GOP being able to craft a bull crap political narrative involving trans people that was used effectively WHEN Biden was POTUS. Young men can be easily swayed by effective political narratives when there is no legitimate national leader to set the record straight. Try to keep up. |
| The ‘trans policies’ you are bleating about were in place when Trump was president before. Not a Biden thing, no matter how much the GOP wants to make Fetch happen. |
What exactly is a "trans policy" anyway? I treat them the same as I do any other human being and they tend to reciprocate. What more is needed in official policy than that. |
Government communication no longer uses the salutation Mr. Mrs. or Ms. Laws regarding bathroom and locker room use. Rules about women's sports. stuff like that. |
DP. I think the Title 19 stuff wrt trans was absolutely criminal. |
Stuff that affects almost no one? Sorry, are you not referred to by your gender affirming salutation? |
Irrelevant. Everyone knows that the Democrats obstructed Trump at every turn in his first administration. Furthermore you can’t seriously be claim that republicans are responsible for pushing the mass delusion that people have “gender identity” which mis aligns to their sex into law and public policies. |
As do I. The policies we are referring to add a nonsensical protected category of “gender identity “ which negates sex based rights for women . Hope that helps. |
It didn't negate anything. That's not how anti-discrimination laws work. |
Remember when Ms. was shocking? You would be railing about that if we were in the 70s. |
Of course it did. You can’t discriminate (aka keep women’s sports limited to women) if a man’s gender identity tells him that he feels like a woman. “ The Biden administration ignited controversy when it finalized the new rules last year. The regulation expanded Title IX, a 1972 law forbidding discrimination based on sex in education, to also prevent discrimination based on gender identity or sexual orientation “ |
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Younger men are right wing because their future sucks. They are more likely to be suffering from depression, drug addiction. More likely to attempt suicide.
Their financial futures are uncertain and are unlikely to have the same standard of living as their parents. They are struggling to find jobs and buy homes. People in those circumstances find solace in strong men and authoritarians who promise they alone can fix it. This happens throughout history and across societies. |
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Here's Libertarian economics Professor Tyler Cowen's thoughts.
3. The deindustrialization of America has mattered more than people expected at first, and has had longer legs, in terms of its impact on public opinion. I would say this one is squarely in the mainstream account of the matter. 4. Many Trumpian and MAGA messages have been more in vibe with the negative contagion effects of our recent times. 5. The Democrats made a big bet that trying to raise the status of African Americans would be popular, but at best they had mixed results. Some part of this failing was due to racists, some part due to immigrants with their own concerns, and some part due simply to the unpopularity of the message. 6. The ongoing feminization of society has driven more and more men, including black and Latino men, into the Republican camp. The Democratic Party became too much the party of unmarried women. 7. The Obama administration brought, to some degree, both the reality and perception of being ruled by the intellectual class. People didn’t like that. 8. Democrats and leftists are in fact less happy as people than conservatives are, on average. Americans noticed this, if only subconsciously. 9. The relentlessly egalitarian message of Democrats is not so popular, and furthermore — since every claim must have messengers — it translates in lived practice into an “I am better than you all are” vibe. Americans noticed this, if only subconsciously. 10. The Woke gambit has proven deeply unpopular. 11. Trans support has not been a winning issue for Democrats, but it is hard for them to let it go. 12. Immigration at the border has in fact spun out of control, and that has been a key Trump issue from the beginning of his campaign. And I write this as a person who is very pro-immigration. You can imagine how the immigration skeptics feel. 13. Higher education has been a traditional Democratic stronghold, and it remains one. Yet its clout and credibility have fallen significantly in the last few years. 14. The Democrats made a big mistake going after “Big Tech.” It didn’t cost them many votes, rather money and social capital. Big Tech (most of all Facebook) was the Girardian sacrifice for the Trump victory in 2016, and all the Democrats achieved from that was a hollowing out of their own elite base. 15. Various developments in Afghanistan, Ukraine, and Israel did not help the Democratic cause. Inflation was very high, and real borrowing rates went up sharply. This is true, whether or not you think it is the fault of Biden, or Trump would have done better. Crypto came under attack. The pandemic story is complicated, and its politics would require a post of its own, but I don’t think it helped the Democrats, most of all because they ended up “owning” many of the longer-lasting school closures. And we haven’t even gotten to “Defund the police,” the recurring rise of anti-Semitism on the left, and at least a half dozen other matters. 16. In very simple terms, you might say the Democrats have done a lot to make themselves unpopular, and not had much willingness to confront that. Their own messages make this hard to face up to, since they are supposed to be better people. You might add to this: 17. Trump is funny (he is one of the great American comics in fact), and 18. Trump acts like a winner. Americans like this, and his response to the failed assassination attempt drove this point home. |
Nothing in the 2024 Title IX rule eliminates sex‑separated sports. The athletics regulations are separate, still being litigated, and schools can still set eligibility rules based on competitive fairness. The idea that adding gender identity as a protected class ‘negates’ sex‑based rights misunderstands how civil‑rights law works; protected classes coexist, they don’t cancel each other out. If the concern is competitive advantage or scholarships, that’s a policy question for sports‑specific rules, not a reason to block protections against harassment or exclusion in classrooms, dorms, or basic participation. And the numbers matter: trans women in competitive women’s sports are statistically microscopic: a mere fraction of a fraction of a percent of athletes, and accordingly, scholarship displacement is also a statistically negligible number, approximately 0.01% of all NCAA athletes. It makes no sense to dismantle broad anti‑discrimination protections just because of 0.01% edge‑case hypotheticals. And before you say "one is too many," go look at what your political allies have done (or more accurately not done) about reforming gun laws given mass shooting after mass shooting after mass shooting. You don't get to cut to the head of the line with trans legislation given far more harmful things impacting society. Also the locker‑room panic over trans people is a red herring. Indecent exposure, harassment, and voyeurism are already illegal regardless of gender identity. Title IX doesn’t override criminal law or school conduct codes. The rule simply says you can’t deny someone equal access solely for being transgender. That’s it. Everything else: sports fairness, safety, discipline is and has always been governed by existing, separate rules. |
Defaulting to “well this affects almost no one” isn’t a winning proposition. There are many parents of daughters who were horrified by the Democrats acting like you were a bigot if you believed biological males shouldn’t be competing in women’s sports or using the women’s locker room. And instead of acknowledging the unpopularity of their position on those issues, they just doubled down and hoped that screaming you are a bigot would make people stay quiet. |