FCPS is turning the new high school purchased to fix crowding into an Aviation magnet school instead of a high school??

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Anonymous wrote:Web archive of KAA facilities description

https://web.archive.org/web/20250502091109/https://www.kaa-herndon.com/about-us/facilities

Hightlights (List of 11 items.)

Buildings and grounds on 40-acres

Fourteen learning communities designed to maximize individual and group work

Three gymnasiums suitable for basketball, volleyball, badminton etc.

Large multi-purpose halls

Indoor 8 lane heated swimming pool & weight lifting/fitness facilities

State-of-the-art theater and performing arts facilities

Library and study rooms

Dual dining room and cafeteria

Ceramics and robotics laboratories

Fine arts facilities

Soccer fields and Athletics oval

That sounds like plenty of space for a high school.

They can use trailers for overflow while construction is going on.

No, it sounds like tons of amenities for a high school.

It doesn’t address the actual capacity or how much classroom space there is.

What amenities? The only thing it has that other schools don't have is a pool. It's not like they're going to keep the dining room and three gyms. They will repurpose those into classrooms.

Wrong. There are a lot of special-purpose spaces and equipment (which conveyed) that typical high schools don’t have. And “repurpose” is an interesting word for the modifications that will be required for more classroom space. You can’t just snap your fingers and turn a gym into classrooms.

You clearly don't know anything about this stuff - converting a gym into classrooms would be one of the easiest projects for them to do - put down flooring, put up thin walls.

It’s starting to sound less like a high school and more like a refugee camp, but do go on.

I will, thanks! Do you know anything about construction and renovation? Because it's obvious you don't. A gym is one large room. You can easily build partitions to turn it into several smaller rooms. Have you ever been in an office building? They build it out as one large open space, and add walls to create offices. Then when one company leaves and another ones leases the space, they rebuild the interior to meet their own needs. Sometimes that means tearing down offices and building cubicles or removing walls to create a large conference room. Other times it means, building offices where there were once cubicles or turning one large conference room into several offices. I've seen this happen many times, and nobody has ever compared these office spaces to refugee camps!

Everything you are talking about takes time and costs money. So we've very quickly gone from hearing about how KAA was a "turnkey" bargain purchase to knowing that a lot more money is going to be required to get KAA ready to open as a public high school (and it's also clear they still haven't figured out what kind of school it's going to be). And the classrooms you want to create in a gym with high ceilings and thin walls may still turn out to be sub-optimal learning spaces - they might actually do better if they were converting an office building like they did at Bailey's Upper.

We get it. You don't want this. Are you the person who posted on Nextdoor that there is no evidence of overcrowding in the western schools? And, one of the respondents said that this school was not going to help the overcrwoding.

Do you not understand the issue here?

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Anonymous wrote:Web archive of KAA facilities description

https://web.archive.org/web/20250502091109/https://www.kaa-herndon.com/about-us/facilities

Hightlights (List of 11 items.)

Buildings and grounds on 40-acres

Fourteen learning communities designed to maximize individual and group work

Three gymnasiums suitable for basketball, volleyball, badminton etc.

Large multi-purpose halls

Indoor 8 lane heated swimming pool & weight lifting/fitness facilities

State-of-the-art theater and performing arts facilities

Library and study rooms

Dual dining room and cafeteria

Ceramics and robotics laboratories

Fine arts facilities

Soccer fields and Athletics oval

That sounds like plenty of space for a high school.

They can use trailers for overflow while construction is going on.

No, it sounds like tons of amenities for a high school.

It doesn’t address the actual capacity or how much classroom space there is.

What amenities? The only thing it has that other schools don't have is a pool. It's not like they're going to keep the dining room and three gyms. They will repurpose those into classrooms.

Wrong. There are a lot of special-purpose spaces and equipment (which conveyed) that typical high schools don’t have. And “repurpose” is an interesting word for the modifications that will be required for more classroom space. You can’t just snap your fingers and turn a gym into classrooms.

You clearly don't know anything about this stuff - converting a gym into classrooms would be one of the easiest projects for them to do - put down flooring, put up thin walls.

It’s starting to sound less like a high school and more like a refugee camp, but do go on.

I will, thanks! Do you know anything about construction and renovation? Because it's obvious you don't. A gym is one large room. You can easily build partitions to turn it into several smaller rooms. Have you ever been in an office building? They build it out as one large open space, and add walls to create offices. Then when one company leaves and another ones leases the space, they rebuild the interior to meet their own needs. Sometimes that means tearing down offices and building cubicles or removing walls to create a large conference room. Other times it means, building offices where there were once cubicles or turning one large conference room into several offices. I've seen this happen many times, and nobody has ever compared these office spaces to refugee camps!

But, Robyn Lady also added that it would be a shame to get rid of those beautiful "small spaces" or something like that.

But, I agree. This building is as large as Centreville. It can work. Lady has spoken about how every available space at Chantilly has been redirected. That can happen here, as well. Some people just do not want it to work.
And, there are those two extra buildings.

You are wrong and silly. Again.

People are fine if it "works," but they ought to know what the real cost is going to be, what type of school it will be (the School Board already had to shoot down Reid's dumb proposal to make it a magnet admission to which would be restricted to kids otherwise zoned to just a few FCPS high schools), how it will affect the ongoing boundary study, and how it will affect the CIP and existing renovation queue.

At present, they can't or won't answer any of these questions, and they can't or won't even say what the school's current or anticipated capacity will be. It demonstrates incompetence and poor oversight, but that doesn't mean that people don't want FCPS to get its money out of the building, which it now owns.

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Anonymous wrote:Web archive of KAA facilities description

https://web.archive.org/web/20250502091109/https://www.kaa-herndon.com/about-us/facilities

Hightlights (List of 11 items.)

Buildings and grounds on 40-acres

Fourteen learning communities designed to maximize individual and group work

Three gymnasiums suitable for basketball, volleyball, badminton etc.

Large multi-purpose halls

Indoor 8 lane heated swimming pool & weight lifting/fitness facilities

State-of-the-art theater and performing arts facilities

Library and study rooms

Dual dining room and cafeteria

Ceramics and robotics laboratories

Fine arts facilities

Soccer fields and Athletics oval

That sounds like plenty of space for a high school.

They can use trailers for overflow while construction is going on.

No, it sounds like tons of amenities for a high school.

It doesn’t address the actual capacity or how much classroom space there is.

What amenities? The only thing it has that other schools don't have is a pool. It's not like they're going to keep the dining room and three gyms. They will repurpose those into classrooms.

Wrong. There are a lot of special-purpose spaces and equipment (which conveyed) that typical high schools don’t have. And “repurpose” is an interesting word for the modifications that will be required for more classroom space. You can’t just snap your fingers and turn a gym into classrooms.

You clearly don't know anything about this stuff - converting a gym into classrooms would be one of the easiest projects for them to do - put down flooring, put up thin walls.

It’s starting to sound less like a high school and more like a refugee camp, but do go on.

I will, thanks! Do you know anything about construction and renovation? Because it's obvious you don't. A gym is one large room. You can easily build partitions to turn it into several smaller rooms. Have you ever been in an office building? They build it out as one large open space, and add walls to create offices. Then when one company leaves and another ones leases the space, they rebuild the interior to meet their own needs. Sometimes that means tearing down offices and building cubicles or removing walls to create a large conference room. Other times it means, building offices where there were once cubicles or turning one large conference room into several offices. I've seen this happen many times, and nobody has ever compared these office spaces to refugee camps!

Everything you are talking about takes time and costs money. So we've very quickly gone from hearing about how KAA was a "turnkey" bargain purchase to knowing that a lot more money is going to be required to get KAA ready to open as a public high school (and it's also clear they still haven't figured out what kind of school it's going to be). And the classrooms you want to create in a gym with high ceilings and thin walls may still turn out to be sub-optimal learning spaces - they might actually do better if they were converting an office building like they did at Bailey's Upper.

We get it. You don't want this. Are you the person who posted on Nextdoor that there is no evidence of overcrowding in the western schools? And, one of the respondents said that this school was not going to help the overcrwoding.

Do you not understand the issue here?

No. It looks like you're just as bad at playing detective as you are at responding to legitimate questions about this future school.

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Anonymous wrote:Web archive of KAA facilities description

https://web.archive.org/web/20250502091109/https://www.kaa-herndon.com/about-us/facilities

Hightlights (List of 11 items.)

Buildings and grounds on 40-acres

Fourteen learning communities designed to maximize individual and group work

Three gymnasiums suitable for basketball, volleyball, badminton etc.

Large multi-purpose halls

Indoor 8 lane heated swimming pool & weight lifting/fitness facilities

State-of-the-art theater and performing arts facilities

Library and study rooms

Dual dining room and cafeteria

Ceramics and robotics laboratories

Fine arts facilities

Soccer fields and Athletics oval

That sounds like plenty of space for a high school.

They can use trailers for overflow while construction is going on.

No, it sounds like tons of amenities for a high school.

It doesn’t address the actual capacity or how much classroom space there is.

What amenities? The only thing it has that other schools don't have is a pool. It's not like they're going to keep the dining room and three gyms. They will repurpose those into classrooms.

Wrong. There are a lot of special-purpose spaces and equipment (which conveyed) that typical high schools don’t have. And “repurpose” is an interesting word for the modifications that will be required for more classroom space. You can’t just snap your fingers and turn a gym into classrooms.

You clearly don't know anything about this stuff - converting a gym into classrooms would be one of the easiest projects for them to do - put down flooring, put up thin walls.

It’s starting to sound less like a high school and more like a refugee camp, but do go on.

I will, thanks! Do you know anything about construction and renovation? Because it's obvious you don't. A gym is one large room. You can easily build partitions to turn it into several smaller rooms. Have you ever been in an office building? They build it out as one large open space, and add walls to create offices. Then when one company leaves and another ones leases the space, they rebuild the interior to meet their own needs. Sometimes that means tearing down offices and building cubicles or removing walls to create a large conference room. Other times it means, building offices where there were once cubicles or turning one large conference room into several offices. I've seen this happen many times, and nobody has ever compared these office spaces to refugee camps!

But, Robyn Lady also added that it would be a shame to get rid of those beautiful "small spaces" or something like that.

But, I agree. This building is as large as Centreville. It can work. Lady has spoken about how every available space at Chantilly has been redirected. That can happen here, as well. Some people just do not want it to work.
And, there are those two extra buildings.

You are wrong and silly. Again.

People are fine if it "works," but they ought to know what the real cost is going to be, what type of school it will be (the School Board already had to shoot down Reid's dumb proposal to make it a magnet admission to which would be restricted to kids otherwise zoned to just a few FCPS high schools), how it will affect the ongoing boundary study, and how it will affect the CIP and existing renovation queue.

At present, they can't or won't answer any of these questions, and they can't or won't even say what the school's current or anticipated capacity will be. It demonstrates incompetence and poor oversight, but that doesn't mean that people don't want FCPS to get its money out of the building, which it now owns.

+1000.

But by all means let’s focus first on making sure the school has a good name!

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Anonymous wrote:Web archive of KAA facilities description

https://web.archive.org/web/20250502091109/https://www.kaa-herndon.com/about-us/facilities

Hightlights (List of 11 items.)

Buildings and grounds on 40-acres

Fourteen learning communities designed to maximize individual and group work

Three gymnasiums suitable for basketball, volleyball, badminton etc.

Large multi-purpose halls

Indoor 8 lane heated swimming pool & weight lifting/fitness facilities

State-of-the-art theater and performing arts facilities

Library and study rooms

Dual dining room and cafeteria

Ceramics and robotics laboratories

Fine arts facilities

Soccer fields and Athletics oval

That sounds like plenty of space for a high school.

They can use trailers for overflow while construction is going on.

No, it sounds like tons of amenities for a high school.

It doesn’t address the actual capacity or how much classroom space there is.

What amenities? The only thing it has that other schools don't have is a pool. It's not like they're going to keep the dining room and three gyms. They will repurpose those into classrooms.

Wrong. There are a lot of special-purpose spaces and equipment (which conveyed) that typical high schools don’t have. And “repurpose” is an interesting word for the modifications that will be required for more classroom space. You can’t just snap your fingers and turn a gym into classrooms.

You clearly don't know anything about this stuff - converting a gym into classrooms would be one of the easiest projects for them to do - put down flooring, put up thin walls.

It’s starting to sound less like a high school and more like a refugee camp, but do go on.

I will, thanks! Do you know anything about construction and renovation? Because it's obvious you don't. A gym is one large room. You can easily build partitions to turn it into several smaller rooms. Have you ever been in an office building? They build it out as one large open space, and add walls to create offices. Then when one company leaves and another ones leases the space, they rebuild the interior to meet their own needs. Sometimes that means tearing down offices and building cubicles or removing walls to create a large conference room. Other times it means, building offices where there were once cubicles or turning one large conference room into several offices. I've seen this happen many times, and nobody has ever compared these office spaces to refugee camps!

But, Robyn Lady also added that it would be a shame to get rid of those beautiful "small spaces" or something like that.

But, I agree. This building is as large as Centreville. It can work. Lady has spoken about how every available space at Chantilly has been redirected. That can happen here, as well. Some people just do not want it to work.
And, there are those two extra buildings.

You are wrong and silly. Again.

People are fine if it "works," but they ought to know what the real cost is going to be, what type of school it will be (the School Board already had to shoot down Reid's dumb proposal to make it a magnet admission to which would be restricted to kids otherwise zoned to just a few FCPS high schools), how it will affect the ongoing boundary study, and how it will affect the CIP and existing renovation queue.

At present, they can't or won't answer any of these questions, and they can't or won't even say what the school's current or anticipated capacity will be. It demonstrates incompetence and poor oversight, but that doesn't mean that people don't want FCPS to get its money out of the building, which it now owns.

Well, they are 65 bus drivers short. So there is a savings for you. They will need lots fewer bus drivers and buses. Maybe a drop in the bucket, but it is a savings.

They have to educate the kids no matter where they are. How many more kids do you think they can put in Chantilly/Westfield, Centreville? Oakton and South Lakes are also pretty full.

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Anonymous wrote:Web archive of KAA facilities description

https://web.archive.org/web/20250502091109/https://www.kaa-herndon.com/about-us/facilities

Hightlights (List of 11 items.)

Buildings and grounds on 40-acres

Fourteen learning communities designed to maximize individual and group work

Three gymnasiums suitable for basketball, volleyball, badminton etc.

Large multi-purpose halls

Indoor 8 lane heated swimming pool & weight lifting/fitness facilities

State-of-the-art theater and performing arts facilities

Library and study rooms

Dual dining room and cafeteria

Ceramics and robotics laboratories

Fine arts facilities

Soccer fields and Athletics oval

That sounds like plenty of space for a high school.

They can use trailers for overflow while construction is going on.

No, it sounds like tons of amenities for a high school.

It doesn’t address the actual capacity or how much classroom space there is.

What amenities? The only thing it has that other schools don't have is a pool. It's not like they're going to keep the dining room and three gyms. They will repurpose those into classrooms.

Wrong. There are a lot of special-purpose spaces and equipment (which conveyed) that typical high schools don’t have. And “repurpose” is an interesting word for the modifications that will be required for more classroom space. You can’t just snap your fingers and turn a gym into classrooms.

You clearly don't know anything about this stuff - converting a gym into classrooms would be one of the easiest projects for them to do - put down flooring, put up thin walls.

It’s starting to sound less like a high school and more like a refugee camp, but do go on.

I will, thanks! Do you know anything about construction and renovation? Because it's obvious you don't. A gym is one large room. You can easily build partitions to turn it into several smaller rooms. Have you ever been in an office building? They build it out as one large open space, and add walls to create offices. Then when one company leaves and another ones leases the space, they rebuild the interior to meet their own needs. Sometimes that means tearing down offices and building cubicles or removing walls to create a large conference room. Other times it means, building offices where there were once cubicles or turning one large conference room into several offices. I've seen this happen many times, and nobody has ever compared these office spaces to refugee camps!

But, Robyn Lady also added that it would be a shame to get rid of those beautiful "small spaces" or something like that.

But, I agree. This building is as large as Centreville. It can work. Lady has spoken about how every available space at Chantilly has been redirected. That can happen here, as well. Some people just do not want it to work.
And, there are those two extra buildings.

You are wrong and silly. Again.

People are fine if it "works," but they ought to know what the real cost is going to be, what type of school it will be (the School Board already had to shoot down Reid's dumb proposal to make it a magnet admission to which would be restricted to kids otherwise zoned to just a few FCPS high schools), how it will affect the ongoing boundary study, and how it will affect the CIP and existing renovation queue.

At present, they can't or won't answer any of these questions, and they can't or won't even say what the school's current or anticipated capacity will be. It demonstrates incompetence and poor oversight, but that doesn't mean that people don't want FCPS to get its money out of the building, which it now owns.

Well, they are 65 bus drivers short. So there is a savings for you. They will need lots fewer bus drivers and buses. Maybe a drop in the bucket, but it is a savings.

They have to educate the kids no matter where they are. How many more kids do you think they can put in Chantilly/Westfield, Centreville? Oakton and South Lakes are also pretty full.

Ah, yes. Leave out the high school in western Fairfax that FCPS is projecting will have 850 extra seats by SY 2029-30.

You don't even try to be honest with the facts.

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Anonymous wrote:Web archive of KAA facilities description

https://web.archive.org/web/20250502091109/https://www.kaa-herndon.com/about-us/facilities

Hightlights (List of 11 items.)

Buildings and grounds on 40-acres

Fourteen learning communities designed to maximize individual and group work

Three gymnasiums suitable for basketball, volleyball, badminton etc.

Large multi-purpose halls

Indoor 8 lane heated swimming pool & weight lifting/fitness facilities

State-of-the-art theater and performing arts facilities

Library and study rooms

Dual dining room and cafeteria

Ceramics and robotics laboratories

Fine arts facilities

Soccer fields and Athletics oval

That sounds like plenty of space for a high school.

They can use trailers for overflow while construction is going on.

No, it sounds like tons of amenities for a high school.

It doesn’t address the actual capacity or how much classroom space there is.

What amenities? The only thing it has that other schools don't have is a pool. It's not like they're going to keep the dining room and three gyms. They will repurpose those into classrooms.

Wrong. There are a lot of special-purpose spaces and equipment (which conveyed) that typical high schools don’t have. And “repurpose” is an interesting word for the modifications that will be required for more classroom space. You can’t just snap your fingers and turn a gym into classrooms.

No. But you can put in desks and a white board and make do. Put in good soundproofing room dividers and you can likely get three or four classrooms.

Won't cost a fortune. Better than trailers.

It’s eventually going to cost a good bit on top of the initial purchase price, though not $200M more.

May or may not actually be better than trailers in the short term, if they are really committed to opening in the fall of 2026.

It will be fine. I taught in a system where there were not enough facilities. It's amazing how well you can adapt when needed.

Sure. But if the short-term fixes are as make-shift as some are suggesting it could be a somewhat chaotic classroom learning environment in the short term - and then they still may need to invest quite a bit on top of the initial $150M to get things to where they need to be.

This is what everyone who has actually toured the building has told me, by the way. There are things about the building that are fantastic and not found at any other HS, but at the same time there are things that are lacking. The same architects may have designed KAA as designed Wakefield HS in APS, but KAA was not designed as a 9-12 public school.

You forget that it will only be two grades the first year, three grades the second year, then four grades. And yeah, I'm sure you know TONS of people who have toured the building

They will work it out. Lots of space to work with. It will require planning on the part of staff. That might be a big lift for this crew, but innovative people could do it. Definitely need someone besides Reid, though.

Kind of doesn't help planning when the idiots are wasting time fantasizing about education of the future.

And, how to name the school........I still think this is the best example of FCPS leadership. To waste an hour on this was enlightening.

I am about to out myself to that individual here, but I asked a school board member about something related to KAA and their response was "first, we are going to rename the school. when that is complete in November, we will talk about everything else"

IN NOVEMBER!!!! They are going to spend now until November just renaming the school!!![/quote]

This may be #2 in best example of FCPS leadership.

But, please: I live near there and don't really care what the name is--just do not name it after a person or a moral quality. Lots of geographic names to choose from. Go with that--nothing that can be contested years later. We don't need future name changes. Possibilities:
West County (but may be too close in name to Westfield)

Oak Hill (it's very near the Oak Hill post office)
Floris
Frying Pan
McLearen (does anyone know who McLearen Rd is named after?)

or, maybe:
Carson High--as long as we are sure that there is no troubling background that could lead to a future name change

They should just go with what we've been calling it for decades 'Mythical West County High School '

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Anonymous wrote:Web archive of KAA facilities description

https://web.archive.org/web/20250502091109/https://www.kaa-herndon.com/about-us/facilities

Hightlights (List of 11 items.)

Buildings and grounds on 40-acres

Fourteen learning communities designed to maximize individual and group work

Three gymnasiums suitable for basketball, volleyball, badminton etc.

Large multi-purpose halls

Indoor 8 lane heated swimming pool & weight lifting/fitness facilities

State-of-the-art theater and performing arts facilities

Library and study rooms

Dual dining room and cafeteria

Ceramics and robotics laboratories

Fine arts facilities

Soccer fields and Athletics oval

That sounds like plenty of space for a high school.

They can use trailers for overflow while construction is going on.

No, it sounds like tons of amenities for a high school.

It doesn’t address the actual capacity or how much classroom space there is.

What amenities? The only thing it has that other schools don't have is a pool. It's not like they're going to keep the dining room and three gyms. They will repurpose those into classrooms.

Wrong. There are a lot of special-purpose spaces and equipment (which conveyed) that typical high schools don’t have. And “repurpose” is an interesting word for the modifications that will be required for more classroom space. You can’t just snap your fingers and turn a gym into classrooms.

No. But you can put in desks and a white board and make do. Put in good soundproofing room dividers and you can likely get three or four classrooms.

Won't cost a fortune. Better than trailers.

It’s eventually going to cost a good bit on top of the initial purchase price, though not $200M more.

May or may not actually be better than trailers in the short term, if they are really committed to opening in the fall of 2026.

It will be fine. I taught in a system where there were not enough facilities. It's amazing how well you can adapt when needed.

Sure. But if the short-term fixes are as make-shift as some are suggesting it could be a somewhat chaotic classroom learning environment in the short term - and then they still may need to invest quite a bit on top of the initial $150M to get things to where they need to be.

This is what everyone who has actually toured the building has told me, by the way. There are things about the building that are fantastic and not found at any other HS, but at the same time there are things that are lacking. The same architects may have designed KAA as designed Wakefield HS in APS, but KAA was not designed as a 9-12 public school.

You forget that it will only be two grades the first year, three grades the second year, then four grades. And yeah, I'm sure you know TONS of people who have toured the building

They will work it out. Lots of space to work with. It will require planning on the part of staff. That might be a big lift for this crew, but innovative people could do it. Definitely need someone besides Reid, though.

Kind of doesn't help planning when the idiots are wasting time fantasizing about education of the future.

And, how to name the school........I still think this is the best example of FCPS leadership. To waste an hour on this was enlightening.

I am about to out myself to that individual here, but I asked a school board member about something related to KAA and their response was "first, we are going to rename the school. when that is complete in November, we will talk about everything else"

IN NOVEMBER!!!! They are going to spend now until November just renaming the school!!![/quote]

This may be #2 in best example of FCPS leadership.

But, please: I live near there and don't really care what the name is--just do not name it after a person or a moral quality. Lots of geographic names to choose from. Go with that--nothing that can be contested years later. We don't need future name changes. Possibilities:
West County (but may be too close in name to Westfield)

Oak Hill (it's very near the Oak Hill post office)
Floris
Frying Pan
McLearen (does anyone know who McLearen Rd is named after?)

or, maybe:
Carson High--as long as we are sure that there is no troubling background that could lead to a future name change

Sully High School?

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https://web.archive.org/web/20250502091109/https://www.kaa-herndon.com/about-us/facilities

Hightlights (List of 11 items.)

Buildings and grounds on 40-acres

Fourteen learning communities designed to maximize individual and group work

Three gymnasiums suitable for basketball, volleyball, badminton etc.

Large multi-purpose halls

Indoor 8 lane heated swimming pool & weight lifting/fitness facilities

State-of-the-art theater and performing arts facilities

Library and study rooms

Dual dining room and cafeteria

Ceramics and robotics laboratories

Fine arts facilities

Soccer fields and Athletics oval

That sounds like plenty of space for a high school.

They can use trailers for overflow while construction is going on.

No, it sounds like tons of amenities for a high school.

It doesn’t address the actual capacity or how much classroom space there is.

What amenities? The only thing it has that other schools don't have is a pool. It's not like they're going to keep the dining room and three gyms. They will repurpose those into classrooms.

Wrong. There are a lot of special-purpose spaces and equipment (which conveyed) that typical high schools don’t have. And “repurpose” is an interesting word for the modifications that will be required for more classroom space. You can’t just snap your fingers and turn a gym into classrooms.

You clearly don't know anything about this stuff - converting a gym into classrooms would be one of the easiest projects for them to do - put down flooring, put up thin walls.

It’s starting to sound less like a high school and more like a refugee camp, but do go on.

I will, thanks! Do you know anything about construction and renovation? Because it's obvious you don't. A gym is one large room. You can easily build partitions to turn it into several smaller rooms. Have you ever been in an office building? They build it out as one large open space, and add walls to create offices. Then when one company leaves and another ones leases the space, they rebuild the interior to meet their own needs. Sometimes that means tearing down offices and building cubicles or removing walls to create a large conference room. Other times it means, building offices where there were once cubicles or turning one large conference room into several offices. I've seen this happen many times, and nobody has ever compared these office spaces to refugee camps!

But, Robyn Lady also added that it would be a shame to get rid of those beautiful "small spaces" or something like that.

But, I agree. This building is as large as Centreville. It can work. Lady has spoken about how every available space at Chantilly has been redirected. That can happen here, as well. Some people just do not want it to work.
And, there are those two extra buildings.

You are wrong and silly. Again.

People are fine if it "works," but they ought to know what the real cost is going to be, what type of school it will be (the School Board already had to shoot down Reid's dumb proposal to make it a magnet admission to which would be restricted to kids otherwise zoned to just a few FCPS high schools), how it will affect the ongoing boundary study, and how it will affect the CIP and existing renovation queue.

At present, they can't or won't answer any of these questions, and they can't or won't even say what the school's current or anticipated capacity will be. It demonstrates incompetence and poor oversight, but that doesn't mean that people don't want FCPS to get its money out of the building, which it now owns.

Well, they are 65 bus drivers short. So there is a savings for you. They will need lots fewer bus drivers and buses. Maybe a drop in the bucket, but it is a savings.

They have to educate the kids no matter where they are. How many more kids do you think they can put in Chantilly/Westfield, Centreville? Oakton and South Lakes are also pretty full.

Ah, yes. Leave out the high school in western Fairfax that FCPS is projecting will have 850 extra seats by SY 2029-30.

You don't even try to be honest with the facts.

They don't have 850 extra seats now. Wonder why the future of Herndon High is so important to you?

They might have room for one elementary school. And, that school is not at Chantilly. And, that school does not have the demographics they desire for Herndon.

Chantilly is 3000 now. No Chantilly kids are a reasonable distance from Herndon High. Without boundary changes, Westfield will soon be at 3000 with all the new construction.

We understand your strong desire to fill Herndon. There are neighborhoods easily within 10 minutes who could fill it now. And, they are not near KAA.

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https://web.archive.org/web/20250502091109/https://www.kaa-herndon.com/about-us/facilities

Hightlights (List of 11 items.)

Buildings and grounds on 40-acres

Fourteen learning communities designed to maximize individual and group work

Three gymnasiums suitable for basketball, volleyball, badminton etc.

Large multi-purpose halls

Indoor 8 lane heated swimming pool & weight lifting/fitness facilities

State-of-the-art theater and performing arts facilities

Library and study rooms

Dual dining room and cafeteria

Ceramics and robotics laboratories

Fine arts facilities

Soccer fields and Athletics oval

That sounds like plenty of space for a high school.

They can use trailers for overflow while construction is going on.

No, it sounds like tons of amenities for a high school.

It doesn’t address the actual capacity or how much classroom space there is.

What amenities? The only thing it has that other schools don't have is a pool. It's not like they're going to keep the dining room and three gyms. They will repurpose those into classrooms.

Wrong. There are a lot of special-purpose spaces and equipment (which conveyed) that typical high schools don’t have. And “repurpose” is an interesting word for the modifications that will be required for more classroom space. You can’t just snap your fingers and turn a gym into classrooms.

No. But you can put in desks and a white board and make do. Put in good soundproofing room dividers and you can likely get three or four classrooms.

Won't cost a fortune. Better than trailers.

It’s eventually going to cost a good bit on top of the initial purchase price, though not $200M more.

May or may not actually be better than trailers in the short term, if they are really committed to opening in the fall of 2026.

It will be fine. I taught in a system where there were not enough facilities. It's amazing how well you can adapt when needed.

Sure. But if the short-term fixes are as make-shift as some are suggesting it could be a somewhat chaotic classroom learning environment in the short term - and then they still may need to invest quite a bit on top of the initial $150M to get things to where they need to be.

This is what everyone who has actually toured the building has told me, by the way. There are things about the building that are fantastic and not found at any other HS, but at the same time there are things that are lacking. The same architects may have designed KAA as designed Wakefield HS in APS, but KAA was not designed as a 9-12 public school.

You forget that it will only be two grades the first year, three grades the second year, then four grades. And yeah, I'm sure you know TONS of people who have toured the building

They will work it out. Lots of space to work with. It will require planning on the part of staff. That might be a big lift for this crew, but innovative people could do it. Definitely need someone besides Reid, though.

Kind of doesn't help planning when the idiots are wasting time fantasizing about education of the future.

And, how to name the school........I still think this is the best example of FCPS leadership. To waste an hour on this was enlightening.

I am about to out myself to that individual here, but I asked a school board member about something related to KAA and their response was "first, we are going to rename the school. when that is complete in November, we will talk about everything else"

IN NOVEMBER!!!! They are going to spend now until November just renaming the school!!![/quote]

This may be #2 in best example of FCPS leadership.

But, please: I live near there and don't really care what the name is--just do not name it after a person or a moral quality. Lots of geographic names to choose from. Go with that--nothing that can be contested years later. We don't need future name changes. Possibilities:
West County (but may be too close in name to Westfield)

Oak Hill (it's very near the Oak Hill post office)
Floris
Frying Pan
McLearen (does anyone know who McLearen Rd is named after?)

or, maybe:
Carson High--as long as we are sure that there is no troubling background that could lead to a future name change

Sully High School?

I think that would be a good, easy and distinctive name. However, they were trying to rename Sully district a few years ago because it was a plantation. Thankfully, that did not succeed. Maybe, we should go to NYC names: PS#

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Anonymous wrote:Web archive of KAA facilities description

https://web.archive.org/web/20250502091109/https://www.kaa-herndon.com/about-us/facilities

Hightlights (List of 11 items.)

Buildings and grounds on 40-acres

Fourteen learning communities designed to maximize individual and group work

Three gymnasiums suitable for basketball, volleyball, badminton etc.

Large multi-purpose halls

Indoor 8 lane heated swimming pool & weight lifting/fitness facilities

State-of-the-art theater and performing arts facilities

Library and study rooms

Dual dining room and cafeteria

Ceramics and robotics laboratories

Fine arts facilities

Soccer fields and Athletics oval

That sounds like plenty of space for a high school.

They can use trailers for overflow while construction is going on.

No, it sounds like tons of amenities for a high school.

It doesn’t address the actual capacity or how much classroom space there is.

What amenities? The only thing it has that other schools don't have is a pool. It's not like they're going to keep the dining room and three gyms. They will repurpose those into classrooms.

Wrong. There are a lot of special-purpose spaces and equipment (which conveyed) that typical high schools don’t have. And “repurpose” is an interesting word for the modifications that will be required for more classroom space. You can’t just snap your fingers and turn a gym into classrooms.

You clearly don't know anything about this stuff - converting a gym into classrooms would be one of the easiest projects for them to do - put down flooring, put up thin walls.

It’s starting to sound less like a high school and more like a refugee camp, but do go on.

I will, thanks! Do you know anything about construction and renovation? Because it's obvious you don't. A gym is one large room. You can easily build partitions to turn it into several smaller rooms. Have you ever been in an office building? They build it out as one large open space, and add walls to create offices. Then when one company leaves and another ones leases the space, they rebuild the interior to meet their own needs. Sometimes that means tearing down offices and building cubicles or removing walls to create a large conference room. Other times it means, building offices where there were once cubicles or turning one large conference room into several offices. I've seen this happen many times, and nobody has ever compared these office spaces to refugee camps!

But, Robyn Lady also added that it would be a shame to get rid of those beautiful "small spaces" or something like that.

But, I agree. This building is as large as Centreville. It can work. Lady has spoken about how every available space at Chantilly has been redirected. That can happen here, as well. Some people just do not want it to work.
And, there are those two extra buildings.

You are wrong and silly. Again.

People are fine if it "works," but they ought to know what the real cost is going to be, what type of school it will be (the School Board already had to shoot down Reid's dumb proposal to make it a magnet admission to which would be restricted to kids otherwise zoned to just a few FCPS high schools), how it will affect the ongoing boundary study, and how it will affect the CIP and existing renovation queue.

At present, they can't or won't answer any of these questions, and they can't or won't even say what the school's current or anticipated capacity will be. It demonstrates incompetence and poor oversight, but that doesn't mean that people don't want FCPS to get its money out of the building, which it now owns.

Well, they are 65 bus drivers short. So there is a savings for you. They will need lots fewer bus drivers and buses. Maybe a drop in the bucket, but it is a savings.

They have to educate the kids no matter where they are. How many more kids do you think they can put in Chantilly/Westfield, Centreville? Oakton and South Lakes are also pretty full.

Ah, yes. Leave out the high school in western Fairfax that FCPS is projecting will have 850 extra seats by SY 2029-30.

You don't even try to be honest with the facts.

None. It is so bad. The numbers don't show the real issue at the schools. Walk the hallways and sit in a classroom/trailer. All these schools need relief.

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Anonymous wrote:Web archive of KAA facilities description

https://web.archive.org/web/20250502091109/https://www.kaa-herndon.com/about-us/facilities

Hightlights (List of 11 items.)

Buildings and grounds on 40-acres

Fourteen learning communities designed to maximize individual and group work

Three gymnasiums suitable for basketball, volleyball, badminton etc.

Large multi-purpose halls

Indoor 8 lane heated swimming pool & weight lifting/fitness facilities

State-of-the-art theater and performing arts facilities

Library and study rooms

Dual dining room and cafeteria

Ceramics and robotics laboratories

Fine arts facilities

Soccer fields and Athletics oval

That sounds like plenty of space for a high school.

They can use trailers for overflow while construction is going on.

No, it sounds like tons of amenities for a high school.

It doesn’t address the actual capacity or how much classroom space there is.

What amenities? The only thing it has that other schools don't have is a pool. It's not like they're going to keep the dining room and three gyms. They will repurpose those into classrooms.

Wrong. There are a lot of special-purpose spaces and equipment (which conveyed) that typical high schools don’t have. And “repurpose” is an interesting word for the modifications that will be required for more classroom space. You can’t just snap your fingers and turn a gym into classrooms.

You clearly don't know anything about this stuff - converting a gym into classrooms would be one of the easiest projects for them to do - put down flooring, put up thin walls.

It’s starting to sound less like a high school and more like a refugee camp, but do go on.

I will, thanks! Do you know anything about construction and renovation? Because it's obvious you don't. A gym is one large room. You can easily build partitions to turn it into several smaller rooms. Have you ever been in an office building? They build it out as one large open space, and add walls to create offices. Then when one company leaves and another ones leases the space, they rebuild the interior to meet their own needs. Sometimes that means tearing down offices and building cubicles or removing walls to create a large conference room. Other times it means, building offices where there were once cubicles or turning one large conference room into several offices. I've seen this happen many times, and nobody has ever compared these office spaces to refugee camps!

But, Robyn Lady also added that it would be a shame to get rid of those beautiful "small spaces" or something like that.

But, I agree. This building is as large as Centreville. It can work. Lady has spoken about how every available space at Chantilly has been redirected. That can happen here, as well. Some people just do not want it to work.
And, there are those two extra buildings.

You are wrong and silly. Again.

People are fine if it "works," but they ought to know what the real cost is going to be, what type of school it will be (the School Board already had to shoot down Reid's dumb proposal to make it a magnet admission to which would be restricted to kids otherwise zoned to just a few FCPS high schools), how it will affect the ongoing boundary study, and how it will affect the CIP and existing renovation queue.

At present, they can't or won't answer any of these questions, and they can't or won't even say what the school's current or anticipated capacity will be. It demonstrates incompetence and poor oversight, but that doesn't mean that people don't want FCPS to get its money out of the building, which it now owns.

Well, they are 65 bus drivers short. So there is a savings for you. They will need lots fewer bus drivers and buses. Maybe a drop in the bucket, but it is a savings.

They have to educate the kids no matter where they are. How many more kids do you think they can put in Chantilly/Westfield, Centreville? Oakton and South Lakes are also pretty full.

Ah, yes. Leave out the high school in western Fairfax that FCPS is projecting will have 850 extra seats by SY 2029-30.

You don't even try to be honest with the facts.

None. It is so bad. The numbers don't show the real issue at the schools. Walk the hallways and sit in a classroom/trailer. All these schools need relief.

Bingo! And, we finally have a solution.

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Anonymous wrote:Web archive of KAA facilities description

https://web.archive.org/web/20250502091109/https://www.kaa-herndon.com/about-us/facilities

Hightlights (List of 11 items.)

Buildings and grounds on 40-acres

Fourteen learning communities designed to maximize individual and group work

Three gymnasiums suitable for basketball, volleyball, badminton etc.

Large multi-purpose halls

Indoor 8 lane heated swimming pool & weight lifting/fitness facilities

State-of-the-art theater and performing arts facilities

Library and study rooms

Dual dining room and cafeteria

Ceramics and robotics laboratories

Fine arts facilities

Soccer fields and Athletics oval

That sounds like plenty of space for a high school.

They can use trailers for overflow while construction is going on.

No, it sounds like tons of amenities for a high school.

It doesn’t address the actual capacity or how much classroom space there is.

What amenities? The only thing it has that other schools don't have is a pool. It's not like they're going to keep the dining room and three gyms. They will repurpose those into classrooms.

Wrong. There are a lot of special-purpose spaces and equipment (which conveyed) that typical high schools don’t have. And “repurpose” is an interesting word for the modifications that will be required for more classroom space. You can’t just snap your fingers and turn a gym into classrooms.

You clearly don't know anything about this stuff - converting a gym into classrooms would be one of the easiest projects for them to do - put down flooring, put up thin walls.

It’s starting to sound less like a high school and more like a refugee camp, but do go on.

I will, thanks! Do you know anything about construction and renovation? Because it's obvious you don't. A gym is one large room. You can easily build partitions to turn it into several smaller rooms. Have you ever been in an office building? They build it out as one large open space, and add walls to create offices. Then when one company leaves and another ones leases the space, they rebuild the interior to meet their own needs. Sometimes that means tearing down offices and building cubicles or removing walls to create a large conference room. Other times it means, building offices where there were once cubicles or turning one large conference room into several offices. I've seen this happen many times, and nobody has ever compared these office spaces to refugee camps!

But, Robyn Lady also added that it would be a shame to get rid of those beautiful "small spaces" or something like that.

But, I agree. This building is as large as Centreville. It can work. Lady has spoken about how every available space at Chantilly has been redirected. That can happen here, as well. Some people just do not want it to work.
And, there are those two extra buildings.

You are wrong and silly. Again.

People are fine if it "works," but they ought to know what the real cost is going to be, what type of school it will be (the School Board already had to shoot down Reid's dumb proposal to make it a magnet admission to which would be restricted to kids otherwise zoned to just a few FCPS high schools), how it will affect the ongoing boundary study, and how it will affect the CIP and existing renovation queue.

At present, they can't or won't answer any of these questions, and they can't or won't even say what the school's current or anticipated capacity will be. It demonstrates incompetence and poor oversight, but that doesn't mean that people don't want FCPS to get its money out of the building, which it now owns.

Well, they are 65 bus drivers short. So there is a savings for you. They will need lots fewer bus drivers and buses. Maybe a drop in the bucket, but it is a savings.

They have to educate the kids no matter where they are. How many more kids do you think they can put in Chantilly/Westfield, Centreville? Oakton and South Lakes are also pretty full.

Ah, yes. Leave out the high school in western Fairfax that FCPS is projecting will have 850 extra seats by SY 2029-30.

You don't even try to be honest with the facts.

They don't have 850 extra seats now. Wonder why the future of Herndon High is so important to you?

They might have room for one elementary school. And, that school is not at Chantilly. And, that school does not have the demographics they desire for Herndon.

Chantilly is 3000 now. No Chantilly kids are a reasonable distance from Herndon High. Without boundary changes, Westfield will soon be at 3000 with all the new construction.

We understand your strong desire to fill Herndon. There are neighborhoods easily within 10 minutes who could fill it now. And, they are not near KAA.

They had over 500 vacant seats last year and that number is only projected to go up.

There is nothing in Policy 8130 that allows them to base redistricting decisions on “desired” demographics, but there is language that suggests they should take advantage of available capacity.

It would have been very simple to move part of Chantilly to Westfield and part of Westfield - about which you pretend to worry so much - to Herndon.

Instead they went ahead and bought a school that they still haven’t figured out what they’re going to do with, or what the final price tag might be.

We own it now, so it should not go to waste, but it’s just one more instance of gross incompetence on their part of Reid and the School Board.

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https://web.archive.org/web/20250502091109/https://www.kaa-herndon.com/about-us/facilities

Hightlights (List of 11 items.)

Buildings and grounds on 40-acres

Fourteen learning communities designed to maximize individual and group work

Three gymnasiums suitable for basketball, volleyball, badminton etc.

Large multi-purpose halls

Indoor 8 lane heated swimming pool & weight lifting/fitness facilities

State-of-the-art theater and performing arts facilities

Library and study rooms

Dual dining room and cafeteria

Ceramics and robotics laboratories

Fine arts facilities

Soccer fields and Athletics oval

That sounds like plenty of space for a high school.

They can use trailers for overflow while construction is going on.

No, it sounds like tons of amenities for a high school.

It doesn’t address the actual capacity or how much classroom space there is.

What amenities? The only thing it has that other schools don't have is a pool. It's not like they're going to keep the dining room and three gyms. They will repurpose those into classrooms.

Wrong. There are a lot of special-purpose spaces and equipment (which conveyed) that typical high schools don’t have. And “repurpose” is an interesting word for the modifications that will be required for more classroom space. You can’t just snap your fingers and turn a gym into classrooms.

You clearly don't know anything about this stuff - converting a gym into classrooms would be one of the easiest projects for them to do - put down flooring, put up thin walls.

It’s starting to sound less like a high school and more like a refugee camp, but do go on.

I will, thanks! Do you know anything about construction and renovation? Because it's obvious you don't. A gym is one large room. You can easily build partitions to turn it into several smaller rooms. Have you ever been in an office building? They build it out as one large open space, and add walls to create offices. Then when one company leaves and another ones leases the space, they rebuild the interior to meet their own needs. Sometimes that means tearing down offices and building cubicles or removing walls to create a large conference room. Other times it means, building offices where there were once cubicles or turning one large conference room into several offices. I've seen this happen many times, and nobody has ever compared these office spaces to refugee camps!

But, Robyn Lady also added that it would be a shame to get rid of those beautiful "small spaces" or something like that.

But, I agree. This building is as large as Centreville. It can work. Lady has spoken about how every available space at Chantilly has been redirected. That can happen here, as well. Some people just do not want it to work.
And, there are those two extra buildings.

You are wrong and silly. Again.

People are fine if it "works," but they ought to know what the real cost is going to be, what type of school it will be (the School Board already had to shoot down Reid's dumb proposal to make it a magnet admission to which would be restricted to kids otherwise zoned to just a few FCPS high schools), how it will affect the ongoing boundary study, and how it will affect the CIP and existing renovation queue.

At present, they can't or won't answer any of these questions, and they can't or won't even say what the school's current or anticipated capacity will be. It demonstrates incompetence and poor oversight, but that doesn't mean that people don't want FCPS to get its money out of the building, which it now owns.

Well, they are 65 bus drivers short. So there is a savings for you. They will need lots fewer bus drivers and buses. Maybe a drop in the bucket, but it is a savings.

They have to educate the kids no matter where they are. How many more kids do you think they can put in Chantilly/Westfield, Centreville? Oakton and South Lakes are also pretty full.

Ah, yes. Leave out the high school in western Fairfax that FCPS is projecting will have 850 extra seats by SY 2029-30.

You don't even try to be honest with the facts.

They don't have 850 extra seats now. Wonder why the future of Herndon High is so important to you?

They might have room for one elementary school. And, that school is not at Chantilly. And, that school does not have the demographics they desire for Herndon.

Chantilly is 3000 now. No Chantilly kids are a reasonable distance from Herndon High. Without boundary changes, Westfield will soon be at 3000 with all the new construction.

We understand your strong desire to fill Herndon. There are neighborhoods easily within 10 minutes who could fill it now. And, they are not near KAA.

They had over 500 vacant seats last year and that number is only projected to go up.

There is nothing in Policy 8130 that allows them to base redistricting decisions on “desired” demographics, but there is language that suggests they should take advantage of available capacity.

It would have been very simple to move part of Chantilly to Westfield and part of Westfield - about which you pretend to worry so much - to Herndon.

Instead they went ahead and bought a school that they still haven’t figured out what they’re going to do with, or what the final price tag might be.

We own it now, so it should not go to waste, but it’s just one more instance of gross incompetence on their part of Reid and the School Board.

Please stop.

The need for an additional high school in the western part of the county has been identified for 20 years. It’s officially been on the CIP for 10 years. Had they started 10 years ago, it would have been waaaaay cheaper.

Waiting longer will not save any money. Building and land costs will continue to increase as available land for a HS is dwindling.

Either way, you had the last 10 years years to run your crusade against common sense. Now it’s time to get a grip.

The need is the only part of this not actually up for debate.

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Anonymous wrote:Web archive of KAA facilities description

https://web.archive.org/web/20250502091109/https://www.kaa-herndon.com/about-us/facilities

Hightlights (List of 11 items.)

Buildings and grounds on 40-acres

Fourteen learning communities designed to maximize individual and group work

Three gymnasiums suitable for basketball, volleyball, badminton etc.

Large multi-purpose halls

Indoor 8 lane heated swimming pool & weight lifting/fitness facilities

State-of-the-art theater and performing arts facilities

Library and study rooms

Dual dining room and cafeteria

Ceramics and robotics laboratories

Fine arts facilities

Soccer fields and Athletics oval

That sounds like plenty of space for a high school.

They can use trailers for overflow while construction is going on.

No, it sounds like tons of amenities for a high school.

It doesn’t address the actual capacity or how much classroom space there is.

What amenities? The only thing it has that other schools don't have is a pool. It's not like they're going to keep the dining room and three gyms. They will repurpose those into classrooms.

Wrong. There are a lot of special-purpose spaces and equipment (which conveyed) that typical high schools don’t have. And “repurpose” is an interesting word for the modifications that will be required for more classroom space. You can’t just snap your fingers and turn a gym into classrooms.

You clearly don't know anything about this stuff - converting a gym into classrooms would be one of the easiest projects for them to do - put down flooring, put up thin walls.

It’s starting to sound less like a high school and more like a refugee camp, but do go on.

I will, thanks! Do you know anything about construction and renovation? Because it's obvious you don't. A gym is one large room. You can easily build partitions to turn it into several smaller rooms. Have you ever been in an office building? They build it out as one large open space, and add walls to create offices. Then when one company leaves and another ones leases the space, they rebuild the interior to meet their own needs. Sometimes that means tearing down offices and building cubicles or removing walls to create a large conference room. Other times it means, building offices where there were once cubicles or turning one large conference room into several offices. I've seen this happen many times, and nobody has ever compared these office spaces to refugee camps!

But, Robyn Lady also added that it would be a shame to get rid of those beautiful "small spaces" or something like that.

But, I agree. This building is as large as Centreville. It can work. Lady has spoken about how every available space at Chantilly has been redirected. That can happen here, as well. Some people just do not want it to work.
And, there are those two extra buildings.

You are wrong and silly. Again.

People are fine if it "works," but they ought to know what the real cost is going to be, what type of school it will be (the School Board already had to shoot down Reid's dumb proposal to make it a magnet admission to which would be restricted to kids otherwise zoned to just a few FCPS high schools), how it will affect the ongoing boundary study, and how it will affect the CIP and existing renovation queue.

At present, they can't or won't answer any of these questions, and they can't or won't even say what the school's current or anticipated capacity will be. It demonstrates incompetence and poor oversight, but that doesn't mean that people don't want FCPS to get its money out of the building, which it now owns.

Well, they are 65 bus drivers short. So there is a savings for you. They will need lots fewer bus drivers and buses. Maybe a drop in the bucket, but it is a savings.

They have to educate the kids no matter where they are. How many more kids do you think they can put in Chantilly/Westfield, Centreville? Oakton and South Lakes are also pretty full.

Ah, yes. Leave out the high school in western Fairfax that FCPS is projecting will have 850 extra seats by SY 2029-30.

You don't even try to be honest with the facts.

They don't have 850 extra seats now. Wonder why the future of Herndon High is so important to you?

They might have room for one elementary school. And, that school is not at Chantilly. And, that school does not have the demographics they desire for Herndon.

Chantilly is 3000 now. No Chantilly kids are a reasonable distance from Herndon High. Without boundary changes, Westfield will soon be at 3000 with all the new construction.

We understand your strong desire to fill Herndon. There are neighborhoods easily within 10 minutes who could fill it now. And, they are not near KAA.

They had over 500 vacant seats last year and that number is only projected to go up.

There is nothing in Policy 8130 that allows them to base redistricting decisions on “desired” demographics, but there is language that suggests they should take advantage of available capacity.

It would have been very simple to move part of Chantilly to Westfield and part of Westfield - about which you pretend to worry so much - to Herndon.

Instead they went ahead and bought a school that they still haven’t figured out what they’re going to do with, or what the final price tag might be.

We own it now, so it should not go to waste, but it’s just one more instance of gross incompetence on their part of Reid and the School Board.

You certainly have great ideas to move other kids around. You do know that community and neighborhoods do matter? That was the number 1 priority on the BRAC pie charts.

Here are facts:
All these schools are too crowded and, with the exception of Centreville, all have new construction:
Chantilly:3000
Westfield:2700
Oakton: 2600
Centreville: 2300

South Lakes:2400

And, there is new construction in Chantilly, Westfield, South Lakes, and Oakton boundaries. Centreville is full.

I would think that we should have a goal of around 2500. A school can deal with more than that--as Chantilly has, but that developed over years. Certainly, any school that is over 2000 is not "too small."

And Herndon had 2200 students last year. Do you really think 2700 is a good goal? Get rid of IB at South Lakes, send AAP to Herndon Middle and Herndon would likely be just the right size.

While Westfield was expanded, it did not expand facilities like gym, cafeteria, etc.

Let's get to the planning and execution phase of this new school. It can work.