Connecticut Ave bike lanes are back!

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DC already has more than 150 miles of bike lanes, many of them protected, and the number of cyclists in this city is going down. If cyclists were a stock, you'd sell. It's already topped out.



False statement. You continue to cite "commuter" which, with work from home, is down everywhere. Cycling in general is way up, so measure that way rather than taking faulty "commuter" stats.



Every transportation survey I’ve seen shows the number of cyclists is not only very small but is getting smaller…


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Where's the study that shows cycling in DC is "way up"?

They don’t have any actual data. Which is why they talk about anecdotes about parking garages.


Per the Census, bicycling in cities across the country is a lot less popular than it was.

"After increased investments in bicycle infrastructure, big experiments with urban bike sharing, an explosion in electric-bike sales and an overall pandemic bike-buying boom, the latest news on bike commuting in the US from the Census Bureau’s annual American Community Survey is not impressive. An estimated 731,272 Americans used bicycles as their chief means of transportation to work in 2022, up from 2021 but down almost 75,000 from before the pandemic and 175,000 from the peak year of 2014."

https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2023-09-27/biking-to-work-isn-t-gaining-any-ground-in-the-us?embedded-checkout=true


Once again conflating "commuting" with you know, running errands or other bike trips which may not be "commuting" particularly given that commuting in general is down given post pandemic working parameters.


Even when you adjust for the rise of remote work, cycling is way down
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DC already has more than 150 miles of bike lanes, many of them protected, and the number of cyclists in this city is going down. If cyclists were a stock, you'd sell. It's already topped out.



False statement. You continue to cite "commuter" which, with work from home, is down everywhere. Cycling in general is way up, so measure that way rather than taking faulty "commuter" stats.



Every transportation survey I’ve seen shows the number of cyclists is not only very small but is getting smaller…


+1

Where's the study that shows cycling in DC is "way up"?

They don’t have any actual data. Which is why they talk about anecdotes about parking garages.


Per the Census, bicycling in cities across the country is a lot less popular than it was.

"After increased investments in bicycle infrastructure, big experiments with urban bike sharing, an explosion in electric-bike sales and an overall pandemic bike-buying boom, the latest news on bike commuting in the US from the Census Bureau’s annual American Community Survey is not impressive. An estimated 731,272 Americans used bicycles as their chief means of transportation to work in 2022, up from 2021 but down almost 75,000 from before the pandemic and 175,000 from the peak year of 2014."

https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2023-09-27/biking-to-work-isn-t-gaining-any-ground-in-the-us?embedded-checkout=true


Once again conflating "commuting" with you know, running errands or other bike trips which may not be "commuting" particularly given that commuting in general is down given post pandemic working parameters.


Even when you adjust for the rise of remote work, cycling is way down


By which you mean up.
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Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:

DC already has more than 150 miles of bike lanes, many of them protected, and the number of cyclists in this city is going down. If cyclists were a stock, you'd sell. It's already topped out.



False statement. You continue to cite "commuter" which, with work from home, is down everywhere. Cycling in general is way up, so measure that way rather than taking faulty "commuter" stats.



Every transportation survey I’ve seen shows the number of cyclists is not only very small but is getting smaller…


+1

Where's the study that shows cycling in DC is "way up"?

They don’t have any actual data. Which is why they talk about anecdotes about parking garages.


Per the Census, bicycling in cities across the country is a lot less popular than it was.

"After increased investments in bicycle infrastructure, big experiments with urban bike sharing, an explosion in electric-bike sales and an overall pandemic bike-buying boom, the latest news on bike commuting in the US from the Census Bureau’s annual American Community Survey is not impressive. An estimated 731,272 Americans used bicycles as their chief means of transportation to work in 2022, up from 2021 but down almost 75,000 from before the pandemic and 175,000 from the peak year of 2014."

https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2023-09-27/biking-to-work-isn-t-gaining-any-ground-in-the-us?embedded-checkout=true


Once again conflating "commuting" with you know, running errands or other bike trips which may not be "commuting" particularly given that commuting in general is down given post pandemic working parameters.


Even when you adjust for the rise of remote work, cycling is way down


By which you mean up.


Yup. In WABA wonder world, down is up, Trumpers are the new “progressives”, and traffic will just magically disappear.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

DC already has more than 150 miles of bike lanes, many of them protected, and the number of cyclists in this city is going down. If cyclists were a stock, you'd sell. It's already topped out.



False statement. You continue to cite "commuter" which, with work from home, is down everywhere. Cycling in general is way up, so measure that way rather than taking faulty "commuter" stats.



Every transportation survey I’ve seen shows the number of cyclists is not only very small but is getting smaller…


+1

Where's the study that shows cycling in DC is "way up"?

They don’t have any actual data. Which is why they talk about anecdotes about parking garages.


Per the Census, bicycling in cities across the country is a lot less popular than it was.

"After increased investments in bicycle infrastructure, big experiments with urban bike sharing, an explosion in electric-bike sales and an overall pandemic bike-buying boom, the latest news on bike commuting in the US from the Census Bureau’s annual American Community Survey is not impressive. An estimated 731,272 Americans used bicycles as their chief means of transportation to work in 2022, up from 2021 but down almost 75,000 from before the pandemic and 175,000 from the peak year of 2014."

https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2023-09-27/biking-to-work-isn-t-gaining-any-ground-in-the-us?embedded-checkout=true


Once again conflating "commuting" with you know, running errands or other bike trips which may not be "commuting" particularly given that commuting in general is down given post pandemic working parameters.


Even when you adjust for the rise of remote work, cycling is way down


By which you mean up.


Yup. In WABA wonder world, down is up, Trumpers are the new “progressives”, and traffic will just magically disappear.


Umm
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People who can see people on bicycles know there are more people on bicycles, now.

People who can't, don't.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:People who can see people on bicycles know there are more people on bicycles, now.

People who can't, don't.


I've lived in DC for a long time and there's bike lanes in my neighborhood where I've never seen even one person use, ever.

But instead of relying on anecdotes, and what we assume is happening, we can just look at transportation surveys. They all same the same thing: that the number of people on bikes is paltry and is shrinking.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

DC already has more than 150 miles of bike lanes, many of them protected, and the number of cyclists in this city is going down. If cyclists were a stock, you'd sell. It's already topped out.



False statement. You continue to cite "commuter" which, with work from home, is down everywhere. Cycling in general is way up, so measure that way rather than taking faulty "commuter" stats.



Every transportation survey I’ve seen shows the number of cyclists is not only very small but is getting smaller…


+1

Where's the study that shows cycling in DC is "way up"?

They don’t have any actual data. Which is why they talk about anecdotes about parking garages.


Per the Census, bicycling in cities across the country is a lot less popular than it was.

"After increased investments in bicycle infrastructure, big experiments with urban bike sharing, an explosion in electric-bike sales and an overall pandemic bike-buying boom, the latest news on bike commuting in the US from the Census Bureau’s annual American Community Survey is not impressive. An estimated 731,272 Americans used bicycles as their chief means of transportation to work in 2022, up from 2021 but down almost 75,000 from before the pandemic and 175,000 from the peak year of 2014."

https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2023-09-27/biking-to-work-isn-t-gaining-any-ground-in-the-us?embedded-checkout=true


Once again conflating "commuting" with you know, running errands or other bike trips which may not be "commuting" particularly given that commuting in general is down given post pandemic working parameters.


Even when you adjust for the rise of remote work, cycling is way down


By which you mean up.


Yup. In WABA wonder world, down is up, Trumpers are the new “progressives”, and traffic will just magically disappear.


Umm

Do they report any data from before 2021?
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

DC already has more than 150 miles of bike lanes, many of them protected, and the number of cyclists in this city is going down. If cyclists were a stock, you'd sell. It's already topped out.



False statement. You continue to cite "commuter" which, with work from home, is down everywhere. Cycling in general is way up, so measure that way rather than taking faulty "commuter" stats.



Every transportation survey I’ve seen shows the number of cyclists is not only very small but is getting smaller…


+1

Where's the study that shows cycling in DC is "way up"?

They don’t have any actual data. Which is why they talk about anecdotes about parking garages.


Per the Census, bicycling in cities across the country is a lot less popular than it was.

"After increased investments in bicycle infrastructure, big experiments with urban bike sharing, an explosion in electric-bike sales and an overall pandemic bike-buying boom, the latest news on bike commuting in the US from the Census Bureau’s annual American Community Survey is not impressive. An estimated 731,272 Americans used bicycles as their chief means of transportation to work in 2022, up from 2021 but down almost 75,000 from before the pandemic and 175,000 from the peak year of 2014."

https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2023-09-27/biking-to-work-isn-t-gaining-any-ground-in-the-us?embedded-checkout=true


Once again conflating "commuting" with you know, running errands or other bike trips which may not be "commuting" particularly given that commuting in general is down given post pandemic working parameters.


Even when you adjust for the rise of remote work, cycling is way down


By which you mean up.


Yup. In WABA wonder world, down is up, Trumpers are the new “progressives”, and traffic will just magically disappear.


Umm

Do they report any data from before 2021?


Yeah, they do. And every month except one in 2023 was a record month in it's history. And then 2024 months have repeated that - besting 2023 months.
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Anonymous wrote:People who can see people on bicycles know there are more people on bicycles, now.

People who can't, don't.


I've lived in DC for a long time and there's bike lanes in my neighborhood where I've never seen even one person use, ever.

But instead of relying on anecdotes, and what we assume is happening, we can just look at transportation surveys. They all same the same thing: that the number of people on bikes is paltry and is shrinking.


Okay - I will take your comment at face value. Could you reveal your neighborhood? No need to reveal the street. Could even be like reveal 3 neighborhoods that are next to each other where one includes yours.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

DC already has more than 150 miles of bike lanes, many of them protected, and the number of cyclists in this city is going down. If cyclists were a stock, you'd sell. It's already topped out.



False statement. You continue to cite "commuter" which, with work from home, is down everywhere. Cycling in general is way up, so measure that way rather than taking faulty "commuter" stats.



Every transportation survey I’ve seen shows the number of cyclists is not only very small but is getting smaller…


+1

Where's the study that shows cycling in DC is "way up"?

They don’t have any actual data. Which is why they talk about anecdotes about parking garages.


Per the Census, bicycling in cities across the country is a lot less popular than it was.

"After increased investments in bicycle infrastructure, big experiments with urban bike sharing, an explosion in electric-bike sales and an overall pandemic bike-buying boom, the latest news on bike commuting in the US from the Census Bureau’s annual American Community Survey is not impressive. An estimated 731,272 Americans used bicycles as their chief means of transportation to work in 2022, up from 2021 but down almost 75,000 from before the pandemic and 175,000 from the peak year of 2014."

https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2023-09-27/biking-to-work-isn-t-gaining-any-ground-in-the-us?embedded-checkout=true


Once again conflating "commuting" with you know, running errands or other bike trips which may not be "commuting" particularly given that commuting in general is down given post pandemic working parameters.


Even when you adjust for the rise of remote work, cycling is way down


By which you mean up.


Yup. In WABA wonder world, down is up, Trumpers are the new “progressives”, and traffic will just magically disappear.


Umm

Do they report any data from before 2021?


Yeah, they do. And every month except one in 2023 was a record month in its history. And then 2024 months have repeated that - besting 2023 months.

where is the pre 2021 data?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:People who can see people on bicycles know there are more people on bicycles, now.

People who can't, don't.


People who can't see them certainly shouldn't be operating a motor vehicle.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:People who can see people on bicycles know there are more people on bicycles, now.

People who can't, don't.


People who can't see them certainly shouldn't be operating a motor vehicle.

There have been two cyclists who have died in traffic accidents in DC in 2024.

One was riding a Capital Bikeshare bike and was hit and died by someone recklessly riding another Capital Bikeshare bike.

(The other was illegally riding in the on-ramp to I-295 from Benning Rd.)
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:People who can see people on bicycles know there are more people on bicycles, now.

People who can't, don't.


People who can't see them certainly shouldn't be operating a motor vehicle.


Agreed. If you can't see people when they are on bikes, you should not be driving.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:People who can see people on bicycles know there are more people on bicycles, now.

People who can't, don't.


People who can't see them certainly shouldn't be operating a motor vehicle.


Agreed. If you can't see people when they are on bikes, you should not be driving.

And what about cyclists killing each other? What’s the criteria and responsibility there? And shouldn’t the Vision Zero response be to make the bike lanes smaller to make the cyclists behave less recklessly so they don’t kill people?
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