What the hell happened to JD Vance?

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Anonymous wrote:Dear single people...

The press keeps getting worse and worse for him. Did they not vet him at all?!

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Anonymous wrote:My millennial daughter says JD Vance is “scaring the hoes”. Really bad pick

You mean “ho”, not “hoe.” “Hoe” is the garden tool. “Ho” is a dialect evolution if “wh**e.”

Vance is scaring the sofas.

Using that "hoe" talk on the Chesterfields.

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Anonymous wrote:Dear single people...

The press keeps getting worse and worse for him. Did they not vet him at all?!

The MAGAs agree with all those positions. There a reason they can't attract enough voters. Their ideas are repulsive.

[Anonymous]

This is the main story on The Hill website this morning.

Some House Republicans slam Vance as Trump’s VP pick: ‘The worst choice’
https://thehill.com/homenews/4793818-vance-vp-trump-house-republicans/

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He’s Trump’s Sarah Palin.

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Anonymous wrote:He's a decent dude, and his wife is great. But he's quite ambitious and made the political calculus a while ago that the National Review brand of conservatism was not a viable path for his political fortunes. He can be thoughtful and nuanced (and some of his writings reflect this, even if you do not agree with him), but nobody is buying that these days, especially with the specter of Trumpism looming. He's had to walk back a number of his anti-Trump opinions in order to try to carve out a niche. This is the calculus that has been made, but it does not appear to be working.

Look at Asha Rangappa, who was at YLS at the same time as JD and is now a twitter warrior. These things happen when visibility, attention, ambition, scrutiny and brand-building enter the mix.

As evidenced by Ted Cruz at the SCOTUS confirmation hearings recently, you would be surprised (or perhaps not) by the number of esteemed, venerable people who are completely obsessed with their twitter mentions and the concomitant attention high. Sign of the times.

+1 to all of this.

I have to say that I do really wonder about his wife and how she's dealing with this. It would be hard for impossible for me to deal with this. They seemingly moved to Ohio to be close to his roots and to work to "make things better" with your spouse who was moderate right at best. Now the dude is more or less on the Trump. I don't think I could deal.

+1 Very faustian. Sold his soul to the devil. I guess she has her own ambitions, and she is willing to sell her soul, as well.

Or is it like Pence's wife who had to deal with her husband on the same ticket as a serial cheater and immoral douche married to a softcore porn star? She was not a happy camper, from what I hear.

Both Vance and his wife were proteges of Amy Chua (the "Tiger Mom"). For both of them, the onlu thing that matters is getting ahead by any means necessary.

He talks a lot about Amy Chua in his book. She was a huge influence on him. There was an article a few or more ago about her husband and her and their relationships with students. It was damning. She's a kingmaker as is Peter Thiel. I believe Chua also told him to write a book. As I recall, she helped him with some of his social graces. He talked a lot about not knowing how to fit in, the typical example of what to do with a salad fork and dinner fork, or multiple glasses, if I'm recalling correctly. I liked the book when I read it but I remember thinking that the stuff about not knowing what to do at a fancy dinner seemed fake. You can Google that stuff before toy go.

People should read her books too to get perspective on this. Don't focus on the social graces thing, her agenda is far more malicious than that. I've just read The Battle Hymn of the Tiger Mother (thought it would be a fun read as a "Tiger Mom" and came away thinking she should have had CPS called on her repeatedly) and The Triple Package (where she repeatedly asserts both genetic and learned traits that some groups will succeed with and others should be left in the dustbin). She leans pretty eugenicist as well and I think it's no coincidence she set up Vance with one of her preferred races and is married to a different preferred "in group" herself. Her beliefs are kind of scary.

Didn't one or both of her kids scheme into an elite Ivy law school via ROTC or JAG? J.D. schemed his way into YLS pretending to be Appalachia trailer trash and checking the military box for diversity.

You can’t be serious. Do you know how unhinged you sound? He was able to pay for his undergrad at Ohio State *because* he served in the military - like many lower income Americans. He had to take out loans to go to YLS - which he hasn’t expected anyone else to pay back for him, unlike your crew.
DP

First he claimed got a full ride to Yale Law, now he claims to have had $120k in loans — to tee up being anti student loan forgiveness, as directed by the right wing think tanks who created him. Any proof of his student loans or just taking the atheist pathological liar’s word for it?

He can’t be doing too badly. He owns a $1.5M home in Del Ray and another townhome on Capitol Hill.

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Anonymous wrote:He's a decent dude, and his wife is great. But he's quite ambitious and made the political calculus a while ago that the National Review brand of conservatism was not a viable path for his political fortunes. He can be thoughtful and nuanced (and some of his writings reflect this, even if you do not agree with him), but nobody is buying that these days, especially with the specter of Trumpism looming. He's had to walk back a number of his anti-Trump opinions in order to try to carve out a niche. This is the calculus that has been made, but it does not appear to be working.

Look at Asha Rangappa, who was at YLS at the same time as JD and is now a twitter warrior. These things happen when visibility, attention, ambition, scrutiny and brand-building enter the mix.

As evidenced by Ted Cruz at the SCOTUS confirmation hearings recently, you would be surprised (or perhaps not) by the number of esteemed, venerable people who are completely obsessed with their twitter mentions and the concomitant attention high. Sign of the times.

+1 to all of this.

I have to say that I do really wonder about his wife and how she's dealing with this. It would be hard for impossible for me to deal with this. They seemingly moved to Ohio to be close to his roots and to work to "make things better" with your spouse who was moderate right at best. Now the dude is more or less on the Trump. I don't think I could deal.

+1 Very faustian. Sold his soul to the devil. I guess she has her own ambitions, and she is willing to sell her soul, as well.

Or is it like Pence's wife who had to deal with her husband on the same ticket as a serial cheater and immoral douche married to a softcore porn star? She was not a happy camper, from what I hear.

Both Vance and his wife were proteges of Amy Chua (the "Tiger Mom"). For both of them, the onlu thing that matters is getting ahead by any means necessary.

He talks a lot about Amy Chua in his book. She was a huge influence on him. There was an article a few or more ago about her husband and her and their relationships with students. It was damning. She's a kingmaker as is Peter Thiel. I believe Chua also told him to write a book. As I recall, she helped him with some of his social graces. He talked a lot about not knowing how to fit in, the typical example of what to do with a salad fork and dinner fork, or multiple glasses, if I'm recalling correctly. I liked the book when I read it but I remember thinking that the stuff about not knowing what to do at a fancy dinner seemed fake. You can Google that stuff before toy go.

People should read her books too to get perspective on this. Don't focus on the social graces thing, her agenda is far more malicious than that. I've just read The Battle Hymn of the Tiger Mother (thought it would be a fun read as a "Tiger Mom" and came away thinking she should have had CPS called on her repeatedly) and The Triple Package (where she repeatedly asserts both genetic and learned traits that some groups will succeed with and others should be left in the dustbin). She leans pretty eugenicist as well and I think it's no coincidence she set up Vance with one of her preferred races and is married to a different preferred "in group" herself. Her beliefs are kind of scary.

Didn't one or both of her kids scheme into an elite Ivy law school via ROTC or JAG? J.D. schemed his way into YLS pretending to be Appalachia trailer trash and checking the military box for diversity.

You can’t be serious. Do you know how unhinged you sound? He was able to pay for his undergrad at Ohio State *because* he served in the military - like many lower income Americans. He had to take out loans to go to YLS - which he hasn’t expected anyone else to pay back for him, unlike your crew.
DP

First he claimed got a full ride to Yale Law, now he claims to have had $120k in loans — to tee up being anti student loan forgiveness, as directed by the right wing think tanks who created him. Any proof of his student loans or just taking the atheist pathological liar’s word for it?

He can’t be doing too badly. He owns a $1.5M home in Del Ray and another townhome on Capitol Hill.

Plus a house he doesn't live in in Ohio to fake residency.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Didn't he change his name? I don't think he was born JD Vance.

Seems like a big fake.

Vance just keeps on rebranding with the wind. New name (twice) and new views or religion whenever he feels it will help him get ahead. He has no convictions. Just says whatever he thinks will win him points.

It's like Buttigieg said about JD Vance (to Maher a couple of days ago): ""When I got to Harvard I found a lot of people like him who would say whatever they needed to to get ahead...I hope things work out a little bit better for JD Vance than they did for Mike Pence."

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Biggest crash and burn VP since Palin. Sad.

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Anonymous wrote:He's a decent dude, and his wife is great. But he's quite ambitious and made the political calculus a while ago that the National Review brand of conservatism was not a viable path for his political fortunes. He can be thoughtful and nuanced (and some of his writings reflect this, even if you do not agree with him), but nobody is buying that these days, especially with the specter of Trumpism looming. He's had to walk back a number of his anti-Trump opinions in order to try to carve out a niche. This is the calculus that has been made, but it does not appear to be working.

Look at Asha Rangappa, who was at YLS at the same time as JD and is now a twitter warrior. These things happen when visibility, attention, ambition, scrutiny and brand-building enter the mix.

As evidenced by Ted Cruz at the SCOTUS confirmation hearings recently, you would be surprised (or perhaps not) by the number of esteemed, venerable people who are completely obsessed with their twitter mentions and the concomitant attention high. Sign of the times.

+1 to all of this.

I have to say that I do really wonder about his wife and how she's dealing with this. It would be hard for impossible for me to deal with this. They seemingly moved to Ohio to be close to his roots and to work to "make things better" with your spouse who was moderate right at best. Now the dude is more or less on the Trump. I don't think I could deal.

+1 Very faustian. Sold his soul to the devil. I guess she has her own ambitions, and she is willing to sell her soul, as well.

Or is it like Pence's wife who had to deal with her husband on the same ticket as a serial cheater and immoral douche married to a softcore porn star? She was not a happy camper, from what I hear.

Both Vance and his wife were proteges of Amy Chua (the "Tiger Mom"). For both of them, the onlu thing that matters is getting ahead by any means necessary.

He talks a lot about Amy Chua in his book. She was a huge influence on him. There was an article a few or more ago about her husband and her and their relationships with students. It was damning. She's a kingmaker as is Peter Thiel. I believe Chua also told him to write a book. As I recall, she helped him with some of his social graces. He talked a lot about not knowing how to fit in, the typical example of what to do with a salad fork and dinner fork, or multiple glasses, if I'm recalling correctly. I liked the book when I read it but I remember thinking that the stuff about not knowing what to do at a fancy dinner seemed fake. You can Google that stuff before toy go.

People should read her books too to get perspective on this. Don't focus on the social graces thing, her agenda is far more malicious than that. I've just read The Battle Hymn of the Tiger Mother (thought it would be a fun read as a "Tiger Mom" and came away thinking she should have had CPS called on her repeatedly) and The Triple Package (where she repeatedly asserts both genetic and learned traits that some groups will succeed with and others should be left in the dustbin). She leans pretty eugenicist as well and I think it's no coincidence she set up Vance with one of her preferred races and is married to a different preferred "in group" herself. Her beliefs are kind of scary.

Didn't one or both of her kids scheme into an elite Ivy law school via ROTC or JAG? J.D. schemed his way into YLS pretending to be Appalachia trailer trash and checking the military box for diversity.

You can’t be serious. Do you know how unhinged you sound? He was able to pay for his undergrad at Ohio State *because* he served in the military - like many lower income Americans. He had to take out loans to go to YLS - which he hasn’t expected anyone else to pay back for him, unlike your crew.
DP

First he claimed got a full ride to Yale Law, now he claims to have had $120k in loans — to tee up being anti student loan forgiveness, as directed by the right wing think tanks who created him. Any proof of his student loans or just taking the atheist pathological liar’s word for it?

He can’t be doing too badly. He owns a $1.5M home in Del Ray and another townhome on Capitol Hill.

He sold a lot of books and his wife was a corporate lawyer.

[Anonymous]

So if the problem isn't with cats

then the problem is with women.

We get it now.

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Anonymous wrote:He's a decent dude, and his wife is great. But he's quite ambitious and made the political calculus a while ago that the National Review brand of conservatism was not a viable path for his political fortunes. He can be thoughtful and nuanced (and some of his writings reflect this, even if you do not agree with him), but nobody is buying that these days, especially with the specter of Trumpism looming. He's had to walk back a number of his anti-Trump opinions in order to try to carve out a niche. This is the calculus that has been made, but it does not appear to be working.

Look at Asha Rangappa, who was at YLS at the same time as JD and is now a twitter warrior. These things happen when visibility, attention, ambition, scrutiny and brand-building enter the mix.

As evidenced by Ted Cruz at the SCOTUS confirmation hearings recently, you would be surprised (or perhaps not) by the number of esteemed, venerable people who are completely obsessed with their twitter mentions and the concomitant attention high. Sign of the times.

+1 to all of this.

I have to say that I do really wonder about his wife and how she's dealing with this. It would be hard for impossible for me to deal with this. They seemingly moved to Ohio to be close to his roots and to work to "make things better" with your spouse who was moderate right at best. Now the dude is more or less on the Trump. I don't think I could deal.

+1 Very faustian. Sold his soul to the devil. I guess she has her own ambitions, and she is willing to sell her soul, as well.

Or is it like Pence's wife who had to deal with her husband on the same ticket as a serial cheater and immoral douche married to a softcore porn star? She was not a happy camper, from what I hear.

Both Vance and his wife were proteges of Amy Chua (the "Tiger Mom"). For both of them, the onlu thing that matters is getting ahead by any means necessary.

He talks a lot about Amy Chua in his book. She was a huge influence on him. There was an article a few or more ago about her husband and her and their relationships with students. It was damning. She's a kingmaker as is Peter Thiel. I believe Chua also told him to write a book. As I recall, she helped him with some of his social graces. He talked a lot about not knowing how to fit in, the typical example of what to do with a salad fork and dinner fork, or multiple glasses, if I'm recalling correctly. I liked the book when I read it but I remember thinking that the stuff about not knowing what to do at a fancy dinner seemed fake. You can Google that stuff before toy go.

People should read her books too to get perspective on this. Don't focus on the social graces thing, her agenda is far more malicious than that. I've just read The Battle Hymn of the Tiger Mother (thought it would be a fun read as a "Tiger Mom" and came away thinking she should have had CPS called on her repeatedly) and The Triple Package (where she repeatedly asserts both genetic and learned traits that some groups will succeed with and others should be left in the dustbin). She leans pretty eugenicist as well and I think it's no coincidence she set up Vance with one of her preferred races and is married to a different preferred "in group" herself. Her beliefs are kind of scary.

Didn't one or both of her kids scheme into an elite Ivy law school via ROTC or JAG? J.D. schemed his way into YLS pretending to be Appalachia trailer trash and checking the military box for diversity.

You can’t be serious. Do you know how unhinged you sound? He was able to pay for his undergrad at Ohio State *because* he served in the military - like many lower income Americans. He had to take out loans to go to YLS - which he hasn’t expected anyone else to pay back for him, unlike your crew.
DP

First he claimed got a full ride to Yale Law, now he claims to have had $120k in loans — to tee up being anti student loan forgiveness, as directed by the right wing think tanks who created him. Any proof of his student loans or just taking the atheist pathological liar’s word for it?

He can’t be doing too badly. He owns a $1.5M home in Del Ray and another townhome on Capitol Hill.

He sold a lot of books and his wife was a corporate lawyer.

Book sales are notoriously and easily faked, especially when you have think tanks and billionaires behind you. For such an allegedly popular memoir, the $40 million netflix movie was a total flop.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So if the problem isn't with cats

then the problem is with women.

We get it now.

He's projecting issues and battles with his own sexuality. That much is clear.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:He’s Trump’s Sarah Palin.

Palin was not as much a drag on McCain as Vance is for Trump, so Vance is worse.

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Anonymous wrote:Didn't he change his name? I don't think he was born JD Vance.

Seems like a big fake.

Vance just keeps on rebranding with the wind. New name (twice) and new views or religion whenever he feels it will help him get ahead. He has no convictions. Just says whatever he thinks will win him points.

It's like Buttigieg said about JD Vance (to Maher a couple of days ago): ""When I got to Harvard I found a lot of people like him who would say whatever they needed to to get ahead...I hope things work out a little bit better for JD Vance than they did for Mike Pence."

If Vance can change his name 4 times, then he shouldn't have a problem with pronouns.