FCPS comprehensive boundary review

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Herndon kids should attend Herndon High School. Not Langley.

Yeah, let’s reward the developers who got to charge inflated prices for those homes, and screw over the Fairfax neighbors who bought there with the expectation of the Langley pyramid

F those neighbors, right? 🙄

You should have no expectation of attending a high school 13 miles away when there’s one 3 miles away (Herndon), 7 miles away (South Lakes) or 12 miles away (Madison).

Classic misdirection. So you are fine with the bait and switch that rewards developers.

Equity warrior love to line those rich developers’ pockets at the expense of their neighbors. Dumb dumb dumb dumb

Are you saying it is jist fine for us, the taxpayers, to continue funding the transprtation all the way to Langley because some board members many years ago approved this deal?

Transportation savings are non existent for most of that school. You maybe take one bus off the road. But even that is unlikely.

I just strongly believe that we shouldn’t be F’ing over neighborhoods for which developers lines their pockets. Liberals used to believe in that too. Now with equity, up is down.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If Langley were overcrowded, it would make sense. But, why move kids just because you can?

You already know the justifications that would be provided if this comes to pass. You just don't like them.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Herndon kids should attend Herndon High School. Not Langley.

Yeah, let’s reward the developers who got to charge inflated prices for those homes, and screw over the Fairfax neighbors who bought there with the expectation of the Langley pyramid

F those neighbors, right? 🙄

You should have no expectation of attending a high school 13 miles away when there’s one 3 miles away (Herndon), 7 miles away (South Lakes) or 12 miles away (Madison).

Classic misdirection. So you are fine with the bait and switch that rewards developers.

Equity warrior love to line those rich developers’ pockets at the expense of their neighbors. Dumb dumb dumb dumb

The "equity warrior" stuff is getting a bit stale.

I don't know when these particular developments in Herndon and Reston zoned to Langley were built. I do know that some later developers tried to get new developments in Herndon and Vienna administratively reassigned to Langley and FCPS refused.

Hot take: what is more stale are the school board members redistricting based on equity under the guise of efficiency.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Herndon kids should attend Herndon High School. Not Langley.

Yeah, let’s reward the developers who got to charge inflated prices for those homes, and screw over the Fairfax neighbors who bought there with the expectation of the Langley pyramid

F those neighbors, right? 🙄

You should have no expectation of attending a high school 13 miles away when there’s one 3 miles away (Herndon), 7 miles away (South Lakes) or 12 miles away (Madison).

Classic misdirection. So you are fine with the bait and switch that rewards developers.

Equity warrior love to line those rich developers’ pockets at the expense of their neighbors. Dumb dumb dumb dumb

The "equity warrior" stuff is getting a bit stale.

I don't know when these particular developments in Herndon and Reston zoned to Langley were built. I do know that some later developers tried to get new developments in Herndon and Vienna administratively reassigned to Langley and FCPS refused.

Hot take: what is more stale are the school board members redistricting based on equity under the guise of efficiency.

Nah, they are just trying to do things that make sense now and correct some.older mistakes.

Here's the thing, you'll likely piss off one generation of homeowners, but right size things for the next generation and decades to come. Long game.

[Anonymous]

I have not ONCE heard the SB discuss how to fix--or even address- the problem of the underachieving students. If they did that, maybe this "study" which has already resulted in $500k, would not bother people so much But, I've not seen any consultant's contract that did not end up going way over the bid--and, in this case, I think it was a "no bid" contract?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Herndon kids should attend Herndon High School. Not Langley.

Yeah, let’s reward the developers who got to charge inflated prices for those homes, and screw over the Fairfax neighbors who bought there with the expectation of the Langley pyramid

F those neighbors, right? 🙄

You should have no expectation of attending a high school 13 miles away when there’s one 3 miles away (Herndon), 7 miles away (South Lakes) or 12 miles away (Madison).

Classic misdirection. So you are fine with the bait and switch that rewards developers.

Equity warrior love to line those rich developers’ pockets at the expense of their neighbors. Dumb dumb dumb dumb

Meanwhile, one of the most vocal SB supporter is working on protecting her own neighborhood. You might want to check out the demographics of her neighborhood. She sure does not want it moved to another school. I understand that. I don't live anywhere near Langley, but I understand that if I bought a house advertised as Langley district, that I would be upset. It is not unreasonable to expect that if a house is advertised as such that you would want to stay there. The developers are long gone. BOS and FCPS approved it. And, the school is not overcrowded.



The "equity warrior" stuff is getting a bit stale.

I don't know when these particular developments in Herndon and Reston zoned to Langley were built. I do know that some later developers tried to get new developments in Herndon and Vienna administratively reassigned to Langley and FCPS refused.

Hot take: what is more stale are the school board members redistricting based on equity under the guise of efficiency.

Nah, they are just trying to do things that make sense now and correct some.older mistakes.

Here's the thing, you'll likely piss off one generation of homeowners, but right size things for the next generation and decades to come. Long game.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Herndon kids should attend Herndon High School. Not Langley.

Yeah, let’s reward the developers who got to charge inflated prices for those homes, and screw over the Fairfax neighbors who bought there with the expectation of the Langley pyramid

F those neighbors, right? 🙄

You should have no expectation of attending a high school 13 miles away when there’s one 3 miles away (Herndon), 7 miles away (South Lakes) or 12 miles away (Madison).

Classic misdirection. So you are fine with the bait and switch that rewards developers.

Equity warrior love to line those rich developers’ pockets at the expense of their neighbors. Dumb dumb dumb dumb

The "equity warrior" stuff is getting a bit stale.

I don't know when these particular developments in Herndon and Reston zoned to Langley were built. I do know that some later developers tried to get new developments in Herndon and Vienna administratively reassigned to Langley and FCPS refused.

Hot take: what is more stale are the school board members redistricting based on equity under the guise of efficiency.

Nah, they are just trying to do things that make sense now and correct some.older mistakes.

Here's the thing, you'll likely piss off one generation of homeowners, but right size things for the next generation and decades to come. Long game.

Can you clarify which current boundaries you view as "older mistakes"?

When I've dug into the history of current boundaries, I've found that some boundaries that may seem odd to people now were the result of decisions that were highly reasonable at the time. In other cases, some past adjustments seemed a bit more sketchy.

That tends to frame how you approach the current exercise. It's much easier to justify disruption when you claim you're righting some past wrong than when you're just saying you think would be an improvement. So I'd be curious as to what you see as the "older mistakes."

[Anonymous]

With a secure border long game means excess capacity everywhere. In 10 years there is no problem. So pissing off people in the short term for no long term gain.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:With a secure border long game means excess capacity everywhere. In 10 years there is no problem. So pissing off people in the short term for no long term gain.

Hah, that's probably why some of them are thinking "now or never."

[Anonymous]

Can you clarify which current boundaries you view as "older mistakes"?

When I've dug into the history of current boundaries, I've found that some boundaries that may seem odd to people now were the result of decisions that were highly reasonable at the time. In other cases, some past adjustments seemed a bit more sketchy.

That tends to frame how you approach the current exercise. It's much easier to justify disruption when you claim you're righting some past wrong than when you're just saying you think would be an improvement. So I'd be curious as to what you see as the "older mistakes."

I think the PP was referring to the "older mistakes" as putting some neighborhoods south of 7 as Langley School district. This was done at the developer's request by FCPS --likely with pressure from the Board of Supervisors. Why? So, the developer could charge more and the taxes for the county would be higher.

So, the developer--long gone--benefited. And, the county benefited from the higher taxes due to higher priced properties.

And, the purchasers were willing to pay a premium to live there.

Seems to me that the SB wants to blame the purchaser. Not themselves for approving it.

[Anonymous]

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Can you clarify which current boundaries you view as "older mistakes"?

When I've dug into the history of current boundaries, I've found that some boundaries that may seem odd to people now were the result of decisions that were highly reasonable at the time. In other cases, some past adjustments seemed a bit more sketchy.

That tends to frame how you approach the current exercise. It's much easier to justify disruption when you claim you're righting some past wrong than when you're just saying you think would be an improvement. So I'd be curious as to what you see as the "older mistakes."

I think the PP was referring to the "older mistakes" as putting some neighborhoods south of 7 as Langley School district. This was done at the developer's request by FCPS --likely with pressure from the Board of Supervisors. Why? So, the developer could charge more and the taxes for the county would be higher.

So, the developer--long gone--benefited. And, the county benefited from the higher taxes due to higher priced properties.

And, the purchasers were willing to pay a premium to live there.

Seems to me that the SB wants to blame the purchaser. Not themselves for approving it.

It's my understanding as well that some of those carved out pockets on the other side of Route 7 ended up at Langley due to sweetheart deals - at a time, no less, when a local real estate lawyer was an appointed member of the School Board. But the larger area in Great Falls that was moved to Langley in the mid-90s was reassigned because Herndon was overcrowded at the time and Langley had space. So not all those things are necessarily alike.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Can you clarify which current boundaries you view as "older mistakes"?

When I've dug into the history of current boundaries, I've found that some boundaries that may seem odd to people now were the result of decisions that were highly reasonable at the time. In other cases, some past adjustments seemed a bit more sketchy.

That tends to frame how you approach the current exercise. It's much easier to justify disruption when you claim you're righting some past wrong than when you're just saying you think would be an improvement. So I'd be curious as to what you see as the "older mistakes."

I think the PP was referring to the "older mistakes" as putting some neighborhoods south of 7 as Langley School district. This was done at the developer's request by FCPS --likely with pressure from the Board of Supervisors. Why? So, the developer could charge more and the taxes for the county would be higher.

So, the developer--long gone--benefited. And, the county benefited from the higher taxes due to higher priced properties.

And, the purchasers were willing to pay a premium to live there.

Seems to me that the SB wants to blame the purchaser. Not themselves for approving it.

It's my understanding as well that some of those carved out pockets on the other side of Route 7 ended up at Langley due to sweetheart deals - at a time, no less, when a local real estate lawyer was an appointed member of the School Board. But the larger area in Great Falls that was moved to Langley in the mid-90s was reassigned because Herndon was overcrowded at the time and Langley had space. So not all those things are necessarily alike.

And now Herndon has extra space, and is MUCH closer than Langley.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Can you clarify which current boundaries you view as "older mistakes"?

When I've dug into the history of current boundaries, I've found that some boundaries that may seem odd to people now were the result of decisions that were highly reasonable at the time. In other cases, some past adjustments seemed a bit more sketchy.

That tends to frame how you approach the current exercise. It's much easier to justify disruption when you claim you're righting some past wrong than when you're just saying you think would be an improvement. So I'd be curious as to what you see as the "older mistakes."

I think the PP was referring to the "older mistakes" as putting some neighborhoods south of 7 as Langley School district. This was done at the developer's request by FCPS --likely with pressure from the Board of Supervisors. Why? So, the developer could charge more and the taxes for the county would be higher.

So, the developer--long gone--benefited. And, the county benefited from the higher taxes due to higher priced properties.

And, the purchasers were willing to pay a premium to live there.

Seems to me that the SB wants to blame the purchaser. Not themselves for approving it.

It's my understanding as well that some of those carved out pockets on the other side of Route 7 ended up at Langley due to sweetheart deals - at a time, no less, when a local real estate lawyer was an appointed member of the School Board. But the larger area in Great Falls that was moved to Langley in the mid-90s was reassigned because Herndon was overcrowded at the time and Langley had space. So not all those things are necessarily alike.

And now Herndon has extra space, and is MUCH closer than Langley.

Handouts for developers at the expense of Fairfax citizens. What’s not to love.

The extreme left used to fight corporations like this, not get in bed with them. You are a sellout.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:No more AAP in middle. Keeps kids at base middle schools and limits bussing needs. Start there before boundaries.

+1 this seems like the biggest boondoggle when middle school honors classes are available.

Agree, but kids should also be kept at their base elementary schools. Eliminate AAP centers completely.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Can you clarify which current boundaries you view as "older mistakes"?

When I've dug into the history of current boundaries, I've found that some boundaries that may seem odd to people now were the result of decisions that were highly reasonable at the time. In other cases, some past adjustments seemed a bit more sketchy.

That tends to frame how you approach the current exercise. It's much easier to justify disruption when you claim you're righting some past wrong than when you're just saying you think would be an improvement. So I'd be curious as to what you see as the "older mistakes."

I think the PP was referring to the "older mistakes" as putting some neighborhoods south of 7 as Langley School district. This was done at the developer's request by FCPS --likely with pressure from the Board of Supervisors. Why? So, the developer could charge more and the taxes for the county would be higher.

So, the developer--long gone--benefited. And, the county benefited from the higher taxes due to higher priced properties.

And, the purchasers were willing to pay a premium to live there.

Seems to me that the SB wants to blame the purchaser. Not themselves for approving it.

It's my understanding as well that some of those carved out pockets on the other side of Route 7 ended up at Langley due to sweetheart deals - at a time, no less, when a local real estate lawyer was an appointed member of the School Board. But the larger area in Great Falls that was moved to Langley in the mid-90s was reassigned because Herndon was overcrowded at the time and Langley had space. So not all those things are necessarily alike.

And now Herndon has extra space, and is MUCH closer than Langley.

Handouts for developers at the expense of Fairfax citizens. What’s not to love.

The extreme left used to fight corporations like this, not get in bed with them. You are a sellout.

Those developers cashed out years ago and no one on the current SB had anything to do with it.

- DP