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Oh wow. A former high school classmate that hasn't seen him for years. Case cracked wide open. |
No, it isn’t. This is just one witness who may or may not be credible. It means nothing. |
So Democrats aren’t the party talking about the rise of fascist Trump? |
It's a very small faction of people you could probably count on one hand spewing all the nonsense on this forum. Same goes for all the ridiculous MAGA noise. Just a small minority of people with loud, very toxic, and very annoying voices. The rest of us need to realize that we're better than this so that we too don't get caught up in the noise of those with more hate than intelligence. |
The witness is more credible than people making up stuff on dcum. |
And what do they do?! Make a wordy sign and stand on 16th St during the evening commute. They don’t shoot people. Not sure why you need this person to be liberal. Honestly, liberal or conservative isn’t the problem; the problem is he was radicalized and went beyond normal behavior. |
He was an antifacist leftist. |
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You really are desperate for this to be a leftist. You’re just so painfully naive. |
So what evidence has the news reported other than this that you have read? Post the link. |
I think your statement overreaches in a few ways. First, it treats a perception as if it mechanically determines behavior. Saying that if someone views a person as a fascist then they will go to any length assumes inevitability that you have not shown. That is a classic hasty generalization combined with a non sequitur. The label does not by itself entail a specific course of action, and people routinely separate moral judgment from methods. Many who believe a leader has authoritarian tendencies respond through voting, lawful protest, journalism, litigation, and persuasion. Others choose disengagement or coalition building. These are materially different from going to any length, which implies an unlimited and indiscriminate set of tactics. Without evidence that the label reliably produces extreme behavior across contexts and individuals, the claim remains an unwarranted universal. It also sets up a straw man by attributing maximal tactics to anyone who holds that view. You are collapsing a wide spectrum of responses into one extreme and then arguing against that extreme. That move erases the role of law, ethics, risk assessment, and strategy that most people weigh before acting. In real political life there are strong counterexamples that falsify the absolute. Civil resistance movements have historically called opponents fascist or authoritarian while insisting on nonviolence and legal constraint. Even within a single movement, norms and institutions channel energy into elections, court challenges, lobbying, and public education rather than unconstrained action. The existence of these ordinary pathways is enough to show that your statement is not an absolute. The phrase any length is doing heavy work here and it is too vague to support the conclusion. If it means anything from writing an op-ed to committing violence, then the argument equivocates between fundamentally different actions. If it means only extreme or illegal measures, you need evidence that the perception reliably produces those measures rather than lawful ones. Until you define the term and show a consistent causal link, the conclusion does not follow. Finally, absolutes in human behavior claims are almost always suspect because they ignore individual psychology and social constraints. People have different thresholds, values, and incentives. They face legal boundaries and social costs. They also revise their judgments over time as new information arrives. A more accurate statement would acknowledge variability, for example that some people who see a leader as fascist may support aggressive measures while many others will choose institutional or peaceful avenues to oppose him. That preserves your core concern without asserting a universal that the evidence cannot carry. |
| So both the shooter in Colorado and Utah on the same day have right wing backgrounds? Extremist in the Colorado case, MAGA in the Utah shooters case? |
| Do you think his dad collects the reward money? |
The Republican Governor of Utah didn't say that. If he was indeed a leftist, the Governor would have pointed it out. |
You know, people here, politicians, academics, pretty much the entire world outside of other fascist governments. I’m sure that a bunch of Germans thought the same thing. “These weirdos are so hard on him, he just wants what’s best for Germany!” |