FCPS Boundary Review Updates

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Anonymous wrote:How many students are leaving Armstrong for IB/AP placements? For a foreign language? Any? Are all those elementary school kids transferring out?

Huh?

AP, IB and language transfers are a high school thing.

Exactly. That’s why the “300 transfers out” argument is weak and silly. You should be focused on ES boundaries and their impact on HS attendance.

The number of transfers out of IB high schools is the first issue that should be solved, by eliminating IB and closing that transfer loophole.

Your rant about some random elementary school has nothing to do with finding a solution to keep the 250-300 students transferring out of the IB schools.

Fix that problem by eliminating IB, and suddenly there is no need to rezone.

It works in reverse, as well. Kids leaving a school for IB.

A cursory check of transfers in and out shows which schools have issues. Most schools lose a handful. A couple of school lose hundreds.

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If 300 kids transfer out without getting any school bus transport then improve the school to keep the in boundary kids. Don’t bus in other kids who want to stay at their own schools.

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Anonymous wrote:Come on, folks.

Let’s be realistic. The school board will never approve a move from Langley to Herndon. Herndon is over 60% capacity, and when/if South Lakes High School (SLHS) closes to transfers, Herndon’s enrollment will only increase.

Let’s stop talking about that scenario. It’s a waste of time.

They seem fairly anchored to leaving schools within the 60-105% range alone, but that's just one of their "guiding principles." They also refer to alignment with Policy 8130 and the SB (if not Thru) could identify that as an independent basis to move kids from Langley to Herndon regardless of whether Langley is over 105% or Herndon under 60%.

I'm not advocating for this. I just think that, politically, the optics are horrible if they propose to move kids who live within a mile or two of West Springfield to Lewis or South County, and do nothing to move at least some Langley kids to Herndon when Herndon is much closer. It makes it look as if all the talk about transportation efficiencies was a sham and they got bullied into leaving Langley alone. I've heard all the arguments about how traffic is worse in Herndon so the commuting times wouldn't be reduced as much as you'd think, but people will look at the maps and draw their own conclusions.

They don't really care about optics when it comes to Langley/Herndon.

For the past ten years, I've heard talk of moving Great Falls kids from Langley to Herndon. For some reason, certain posters keep bringing it up.

Doesn’t matter what they think. It's not going to happen.

Full stop.

Why because you and your rich friends founded some sort of association that is lobbying against it? Donating thousands to school board members? You're trying to buy your way out of being rezoned and everybody knows it.

I am in FairFACTs Matters and no where close to Langley nor Herndon. Nor WSHS and Lewis.

There’s also no requirement to donate anything.

+2 it’s literally just a FB group. You can join it whenever you want!

A Fb group that raised over $50,000.

They regularly pay for FOIA requests, which add up.

I wouldn't donate to them, but I hope they are using the funds for what they were intended for.

Thanks for that information. Sad that there has to be a group that needs FOIA. I am grateful to those who donate. If FCPS would be more transparent, FOIA would not be necessary.

It was only through FairFacts’ advocacy that the BRAC member list was disclosed and that they started putting their meeting notes online. Otherwise we’d all be in the dark about this.

Also noting they just posted this. Thus far, this has been the only way for community members to engage with the closed-door BRAC. The pyramid nor special interest members are not doing this unless you happen to have a direct connection.

“For those looking to send community feedback, please email us at [e-mail] with your questions or comments. We have already submitted three communications reflecting community feedback and will continue to share the most commonly asked questions moving forward. We will provide previous communications with community feedback below.“

How disgusting that these people are only sharing information with a small handful of members of the county who live in one specific area and not everyone.

Also it's clearly not a Facebook group when they have their own domain.

Maybe you don’t understand. Fairfacts matters is soliciting feedback to provide to Fairfax County, since they have spots on BRAC now. They are opening the dialogue to everyone across the county, not just one particular pyramid. Oh, and it seems that anyone can join- it’s a county-wide organization.

I’m guessing you understand and that you are just desperately trying to make them the bad guy, but just in case you didn’t understand, I figured i would directly address your concerns.

Bravo. I'm so sick of the PP making up nonsense to further her warped narrative. Thank for setting them straight.

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Anonymous wrote:Nobody is promised to be zoned to certain public schools in perpetuity when they buy a house. I understand it must be frustrating if you had made certain plans, but there is always a chance your home will get redistricted.

This is why we didn’t spend every last penny to buy a house in the best district we could afford.

Good for you. Thanks for repeating the quotes from the gatehouse playbook. No one on this thread ever has said that they were promised a certain school in perpetuity. That doesn’t mean people want their kids to get moved from a good school to a terrible school.

I have no problem with people organizing to get what they want, but sometimes you will be disappointed with the results. Maybe in this case your home will get re-districted, maybe it won’t.

I just cannot with the trashing of schools like Edison, Falls Church and Herndon on this thread. I feel like the teachers and admin are doing the best they can with the student bodies they were dealt. There are many stories of successful students coming out of those schools, despite being ESOL and poor.

The funny thing is that it’s usually posters in these very pyramids that are trying to foment a race/class war among neighbors who tend to disparage those schools in an attempt to put words in other posters’ mouths.

Most everyone else just want stability.

Nah, the Langley folks regularly trash Herndon on the FairFACTS FB page and elsewhere. And the admins of that page leave it up so they must agree.

DP. Interesting that you (deliberately) leave out the trashing of Langley that goes on constantly - both on that FB page and right here. So typical.

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Anonymous wrote:How many students are leaving Armstrong for IB/AP placements? For a foreign language? Any? Are all those elementary school kids transferring out?

Huh?

AP, IB and language transfers are a high school thing.

Exactly. That’s why the “300 transfers out” argument is weak and silly. You should be focused on ES boundaries and their impact on HS attendance.

The number of transfers out of IB high schools is the first issue that should be solved, by eliminating IB and closing that transfer loophole.

Your rant about some random elementary school has nothing to do with finding a solution to keep the 250-300 students transferring out of the IB schools.

Fix that problem by eliminating IB, and suddenly there is no need to rezone.

It works in reverse, as well. Kids leaving a school for IB.

A cursory check of transfers in and out shows which schools have issues. Most schools lose a handful. A couple of school lose hundreds.

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If 300 kids transfer out without getting any school bus transport then improve the school to keep the in boundary kids. Don’t bus in other kids who want to stay at their own schools.

This.

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Anonymous wrote:Nobody is promised to be zoned to certain public schools in perpetuity when they buy a house. I understand it must be frustrating if you had made certain plans, but there is always a chance your home will get redistricted.

This is why we didn’t spend every last penny to buy a house in the best district we could afford.

Good for you. Thanks for repeating the quotes from the gatehouse playbook. No one on this thread ever has said that they were promised a certain school in perpetuity. That doesn’t mean people want their kids to get moved from a good school to a terrible school.

I have no problem with people organizing to get what they want, but sometimes you will be disappointed with the results. Maybe in this case your home will get re-districted, maybe it won’t.

I just cannot with the trashing of schools like Edison, Falls Church and Herndon on this thread. I feel like the teachers and admin are doing the best they can with the student bodies they were dealt. There are many stories of successful students coming out of those schools, despite being ESOL and poor.

The funny thing is that it’s usually posters in these very pyramids that are trying to foment a race/class war among neighbors who tend to disparage those schools in an attempt to put words in other posters’ mouths.

Most everyone else just want stability.

Nah, the Langley folks regularly trash Herndon on the FairFACTS FB page and elsewhere. And the admins of that page leave it up so they must agree.

DP. Interesting that you (deliberately) leave out the trashing of Langley that goes on constantly - both on that FB page and right here. So typical.

You have a very arm’s-length relationship with reality.

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Anonymous wrote:Nobody is promised to be zoned to certain public schools in perpetuity when they buy a house. I understand it must be frustrating if you had made certain plans, but there is always a chance your home will get redistricted.

This is why we didn’t spend every last penny to buy a house in the best district we could afford.

Good for you. Thanks for repeating the quotes from the gatehouse playbook. No one on this thread ever has said that they were promised a certain school in perpetuity. That doesn’t mean people want their kids to get moved from a good school to a terrible school.

I have no problem with people organizing to get what they want, but sometimes you will be disappointed with the results. Maybe in this case your home will get re-districted, maybe it won’t.

I just cannot with the trashing of schools like Edison, Falls Church and Herndon on this thread. I feel like the teachers and admin are doing the best they can with the student bodies they were dealt. There are many stories of successful students coming out of those schools, despite being ESOL and poor.

The funny thing is that it’s usually posters in these very pyramids that are trying to foment a race/class war among neighbors who tend to disparage those schools in an attempt to put words in other posters’ mouths.

Most everyone else just want stability.

Nah, the Langley folks regularly trash Herndon on the FairFACTS FB page and elsewhere. And the admins of that page leave it up so they must agree.

I’ve seen posts on that Facebook page calling Langley kids idiots, so it’s quite clear they want that page to be an open dialogue.

Face it, you are just wasting your time trying to paint fairfacts matters as the bad guys. You’re just grasping at any straw you can.

Exactly this.

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Anonymous wrote:Come on, folks.

Let’s be realistic. The school board will never approve a move from Langley to Herndon. Herndon is over 60% capacity, and when/if South Lakes High School (SLHS) closes to transfers, Herndon’s enrollment will only increase.

Let’s stop talking about that scenario. It’s a waste of time.

They seem fairly anchored to leaving schools within the 60-105% range alone, but that's just one of their "guiding principles." They also refer to alignment with Policy 8130 and the SB (if not Thru) could identify that as an independent basis to move kids from Langley to Herndon regardless of whether Langley is over 105% or Herndon under 60%.

I'm not advocating for this. I just think that, politically, the optics are horrible if they propose to move kids who live within a mile or two of West Springfield to Lewis or South County, and do nothing to move at least some Langley kids to Herndon when Herndon is much closer. It makes it look as if all the talk about transportation efficiencies was a sham and they got bullied into leaving Langley alone. I've heard all the arguments about how traffic is worse in Herndon so the commuting times wouldn't be reduced as much as you'd think, but people will look at the maps and draw their own conclusions.

They don't really care about optics when it comes to Langley/Herndon.

For the past ten years, I've heard talk of moving Great Falls kids from Langley to Herndon. For some reason, certain posters keep bringing it up.

Doesn’t matter what they think. It's not going to happen.

Full stop.

Why because you and your rich friends founded some sort of association that is lobbying against it? Donating thousands to school board members? You're trying to buy your way out of being rezoned and everybody knows it.

I am in FairFACTs Matters and no where close to Langley nor Herndon. Nor WSHS and Lewis.

There’s also no requirement to donate anything.

+2 it’s literally just a FB group. You can join it whenever you want!

A Fb group that raised over $50,000.

They regularly pay for FOIA requests, which add up.

I wouldn't donate to them, but I hope they are using the funds for what they were intended for.

Thanks for that information. Sad that there has to be a group that needs FOIA. I am grateful to those who donate. If FCPS would be more transparent, FOIA would not be necessary.

It was only through FairFacts’ advocacy that the BRAC member list was disclosed and that they started putting their meeting notes online. Otherwise we’d all be in the dark about this.

Also noting they just posted this. Thus far, this has been the only way for community members to engage with the closed-door BRAC. The pyramid nor special interest members are not doing this unless you happen to have a direct connection.

“For those looking to send community feedback, please email us at [e-mail] with your questions or comments. We have already submitted three communications reflecting community feedback and will continue to share the most commonly asked questions moving forward. We will provide previous communications with community feedback below.“

How disgusting that these people are only sharing information with a small handful of members of the county who live in one specific area and not everyone.

Also it's clearly not a Facebook group when they have their own domain.

Maybe you don’t understand. Fairfacts matters is soliciting feedback to provide to Fairfax County, since they have spots on BRAC now. They are opening the dialogue to everyone across the county, not just one particular pyramid. Oh, and it seems that anyone can join- it’s a county-wide organization.

I’m guessing you understand and that you are just desperately trying to make them the bad guy, but just in case you didn’t understand, I figured i would directly address your concerns.

Are they politically motivated? Just answer the question.

If you're asking if the group is a bunch of Republicans calling attention to school boundaries in an effort to swing elections, the answer is a definitive "no."

There are certainly a handful of republicans who reminded the group in its first weeks that they voted for the fairfax dems who have had re-districting for equity on their agenda for years now. A few independents who tell the group to accept equity redistricting as the price to pay for all the dem stuff they want their school board to do.

Mostly it's democrats who just want to stay democrats and to work with the board for the outcome they want. The LAST thing they want is to vote for republicans or be called republicans.

Thanks, I just have nightmares about Joanne Sears and Rory Cooper whose open FCPS effort had a very clear Republican agenda and whose agenda worked - angry mommas elected Glenn Youngkin. I don't want a repeat of that.

DP. How's the current all-Democrat SB working for you?

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Anonymous wrote:Come on, folks.

Let’s be realistic. The school board will never approve a move from Langley to Herndon. Herndon is over 60% capacity, and when/if South Lakes High School (SLHS) closes to transfers, Herndon’s enrollment will only increase.

Let’s stop talking about that scenario. It’s a waste of time.

They seem fairly anchored to leaving schools within the 60-105% range alone, but that's just one of their "guiding principles." They also refer to alignment with Policy 8130 and the SB (if not Thru) could identify that as an independent basis to move kids from Langley to Herndon regardless of whether Langley is over 105% or Herndon under 60%.

I'm not advocating for this. I just think that, politically, the optics are horrible if they propose to move kids who live within a mile or two of West Springfield to Lewis or South County, and do nothing to move at least some Langley kids to Herndon when Herndon is much closer. It makes it look as if all the talk about transportation efficiencies was a sham and they got bullied into leaving Langley alone. I've heard all the arguments about how traffic is worse in Herndon so the commuting times wouldn't be reduced as much as you'd think, but people will look at the maps and draw their own conclusions.

They don't really care about optics when it comes to Langley/Herndon.

For the past ten years, I've heard talk of moving Great Falls kids from Langley to Herndon. For some reason, certain posters keep bringing it up.

Doesn’t matter what they think. It's not going to happen.

Full stop.

Why because you and your rich friends founded some sort of association that is lobbying against it? Donating thousands to school board members? You're trying to buy your way out of being rezoned and everybody knows it.

I am in FairFACTs Matters and no where close to Langley nor Herndon. Nor WSHS and Lewis.

There’s also no requirement to donate anything.

+2 it’s literally just a FB group. You can join it whenever you want!

A Fb group that raised over $50,000.

They regularly pay for FOIA requests, which add up.

I wouldn't donate to them, but I hope they are using the funds for what they were intended for.

Thanks for that information. Sad that there has to be a group that needs FOIA. I am grateful to those who donate. If FCPS would be more transparent, FOIA would not be necessary.

It was only through FairFacts’ advocacy that the BRAC member list was disclosed and that they started putting their meeting notes online. Otherwise we’d all be in the dark about this.

Also noting they just posted this. Thus far, this has been the only way for community members to engage with the closed-door BRAC. The pyramid nor special interest members are not doing this unless you happen to have a direct connection.

“For those looking to send community feedback, please email us at [e-mail] with your questions or comments. We have already submitted three communications reflecting community feedback and will continue to share the most commonly asked questions moving forward. We will provide previous communications with community feedback below.“

How disgusting that these people are only sharing information with a small handful of members of the county who live in one specific area and not everyone.

Also it's clearly not a Facebook group when they have their own domain.

Maybe you don’t understand. Fairfacts matters is soliciting feedback to provide to Fairfax County, since they have spots on BRAC now. They are opening the dialogue to everyone across the county, not just one particular pyramid. Oh, and it seems that anyone can join- it’s a county-wide organization.

I’m guessing you understand and that you are just desperately trying to make them the bad guy, but just in case you didn’t understand, I figured i would directly address your concerns.

Are they politically motivated? Just answer the question.

If you're asking if the group is a bunch of Republicans calling attention to school boundaries in an effort to swing elections, the answer is a definitive "no."

There are certainly a handful of republicans who reminded the group in its first weeks that they voted for the fairfax dems who have had re-districting for equity on their agenda for years now. A few independents who tell the group to accept equity redistricting as the price to pay for all the dem stuff they want their school board to do.

Mostly it's democrats who just want to stay democrats and to work with the board for the outcome they want. The LAST thing they want is to vote for republicans or be called republicans.

Thanks, I just have nightmares about Joanne Sears and Rory Cooper whose open FCPS effort had a very clear Republican agenda and whose agenda worked - angry mommas elected Glenn Youngkin. I don't want a repeat of that.

Who cares ifthey are republican activists?

They are taxpaying residents, and have just as much right to push their cause as all of you far left activists.

At least their focus is on improving schools and building transparency, instead of using kids for political pawns.

+100

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Anonymous wrote:Nobody is promised to be zoned to certain public schools in perpetuity when they buy a house. I understand it must be frustrating if you had made certain plans, but there is always a chance your home will get redistricted.

This is why we didn’t spend every last penny to buy a house in the best district we could afford.

Good for you. Thanks for repeating the quotes from the gatehouse playbook. No one on this thread ever has said that they were promised a certain school in perpetuity. That doesn’t mean people want their kids to get moved from a good school to a terrible school.

I have no problem with people organizing to get what they want, but sometimes you will be disappointed with the results. Maybe in this case your home will get re-districted, maybe it won’t.

I just cannot with the trashing of schools like Edison, Falls Church and Herndon on this thread. I feel like the teachers and admin are doing the best they can with the student bodies they were dealt. There are many stories of successful students coming out of those schools, despite being ESOL and poor.

The funny thing is that it’s usually posters in these very pyramids that are trying to foment a race/class war among neighbors who tend to disparage those schools in an attempt to put words in other posters’ mouths.

Most everyone else just want stability.

Nah, the Langley folks regularly trash Herndon on the FairFACTS FB page and elsewhere. And the admins of that page leave it up so they must agree.

DP. Interesting that you (deliberately) leave out the trashing of Langley that goes on constantly - both on that FB page and right here. So typical.

You have a very arm’s-length relationship with reality.

Are you the weirdo who has spent the past few pages making some bizarre argument about... Armstrong Elementary? Maybe take a look in the mirror...

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Anonymous wrote:How many students are leaving Armstrong for IB/AP placements? For a foreign language? Any? Are all those elementary school kids transferring out?

Huh?

AP, IB and language transfers are a high school thing.

Exactly. That’s why the “300 transfers out” argument is weak and silly. You should be focused on ES boundaries and their impact on HS attendance.

If a couple of hundred students are pupil placing out of a school for AP/IB, that has a direct effect on the membership of a school. So, you think the answer is to send another area to that school?

When a large number exit for AP/IB and that is out of the norm for high schools, something else is going on.

This is the question parents on BRAC need to ask

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Anonymous wrote:How many students are leaving Armstrong for IB/AP placements? For a foreign language? Any? Are all those elementary school kids transferring out?

Huh?

AP, IB and language transfers are a high school thing.

Exactly. That’s why the “300 transfers out” argument is weak and silly. You should be focused on ES boundaries and their impact on HS attendance.

If a couple of hundred students are pupil placing out of a school for AP/IB, that has a direct effect on the membership of a school. So, you think the answer is to send another area to that school?

When a large number exit for AP/IB and that is out of the norm for high schools, something else is going on.

This is the question parents on BRAC need to ask

You can directly submit suggestions to FCPS as well. Time is ticking to get voices in before more concrete scenarios go through community reviews. They will release capacity maps next week and then hopefully release updates with BRAC feedback incorporated. These will go through community engagements but any proactive work could be impactful:

https://www.fcps.edu/about-fcps/maps/2024-2026-boundary-review/submit-school-assignment-or-boundaries-question

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Anonymous wrote:Come on, folks.

Let’s be realistic. The school board will never approve a move from Langley to Herndon. Herndon is over 60% capacity, and when/if South Lakes High School (SLHS) closes to transfers, Herndon’s enrollment will only increase.

Let’s stop talking about that scenario. It’s a waste of time.

They seem fairly anchored to leaving schools within the 60-105% range alone, but that's just one of their "guiding principles." They also refer to alignment with Policy 8130 and the SB (if not Thru) could identify that as an independent basis to move kids from Langley to Herndon regardless of whether Langley is over 105% or Herndon under 60%.

I'm not advocating for this. I just think that, politically, the optics are horrible if they propose to move kids who live within a mile or two of West Springfield to Lewis or South County, and do nothing to move at least some Langley kids to Herndon when Herndon is much closer. It makes it look as if all the talk about transportation efficiencies was a sham and they got bullied into leaving Langley alone. I've heard all the arguments about how traffic is worse in Herndon so the commuting times wouldn't be reduced as much as you'd think, but people will look at the maps and draw their own conclusions.

They don't really care about optics when it comes to Langley/Herndon.

For the past ten years, I've heard talk of moving Great Falls kids from Langley to Herndon. For some reason, certain posters keep bringing it up.

Doesn’t matter what they think. It's not going to happen.

Full stop.

Why because you and your rich friends founded some sort of association that is lobbying against it? Donating thousands to school board members? You're trying to buy your way out of being rezoned and everybody knows it.

I am in FairFACTs Matters and no where close to Langley nor Herndon. Nor WSHS and Lewis.

There’s also no requirement to donate anything.

+2 it’s literally just a FB group. You can join it whenever you want!

A Fb group that raised over $50,000.

They regularly pay for FOIA requests, which add up.

I wouldn't donate to them, but I hope they are using the funds for what they were intended for.

Thanks for that information. Sad that there has to be a group that needs FOIA. I am grateful to those who donate. If FCPS would be more transparent, FOIA would not be necessary.

It was only through FairFacts’ advocacy that the BRAC member list was disclosed and that they started putting their meeting notes online. Otherwise we’d all be in the dark about this.

Also noting they just posted this. Thus far, this has been the only way for community members to engage with the closed-door BRAC. The pyramid nor special interest members are not doing this unless you happen to have a direct connection.

“For those looking to send community feedback, please email us at [e-mail] with your questions or comments. We have already submitted three communications reflecting community feedback and will continue to share the most commonly asked questions moving forward. We will provide previous communications with community feedback below.“

How disgusting that these people are only sharing information with a small handful of members of the county who live in one specific area and not everyone.

Also it's clearly not a Facebook group when they have their own domain.

Maybe you don’t understand. Fairfacts matters is soliciting feedback to provide to Fairfax County, since they have spots on BRAC now. They are opening the dialogue to everyone across the county, not just one particular pyramid. Oh, and it seems that anyone can join- it’s a county-wide organization.

I’m guessing you understand and that you are just desperately trying to make them the bad guy, but just in case you didn’t understand, I figured i would directly address your concerns.

Are they politically motivated? Just answer the question.

If you're asking if the group is a bunch of Republicans calling attention to school boundaries in an effort to swing elections, the answer is a definitive "no."

There are certainly a handful of republicans who reminded the group in its first weeks that they voted for the fairfax dems who have had re-districting for equity on their agenda for years now. A few independents who tell the group to accept equity redistricting as the price to pay for all the dem stuff they want their school board to do.

Mostly it's democrats who just want to stay democrats and to work with the board for the outcome they want. The LAST thing they want is to vote for republicans or be called republicans.

Thanks, I just have nightmares about Joanne Sears and Rory Cooper whose open FCPS effort had a very clear Republican agenda and whose agenda worked - angry mommas elected Glenn Youngkin. I don't want a repeat of that.

And, you think shifting kids all over the county is going to elect a Democrat?

All I'm saying is that I'm tired of these politically motivated organizations saying they're doing what's best for students when really it's all about politics. I've seen it all over this board and it's going to get worse as we get closer and closer to the election. Every year like clockwork, they come and they post here (both sides) and try to scare parent into voting for them by talking about how horrible the schools are. The truth it, the schools are good, and motivated students with parents who guide them are going to do great no matter where they are zoned.

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Anonymous wrote:Come on, folks.

Let’s be realistic. The school board will never approve a move from Langley to Herndon. Herndon is over 60% capacity, and when/if South Lakes High School (SLHS) closes to transfers, Herndon’s enrollment will only increase.

Let’s stop talking about that scenario. It’s a waste of time.

They seem fairly anchored to leaving schools within the 60-105% range alone, but that's just one of their "guiding principles." They also refer to alignment with Policy 8130 and the SB (if not Thru) could identify that as an independent basis to move kids from Langley to Herndon regardless of whether Langley is over 105% or Herndon under 60%.

I'm not advocating for this. I just think that, politically, the optics are horrible if they propose to move kids who live within a mile or two of West Springfield to Lewis or South County, and do nothing to move at least some Langley kids to Herndon when Herndon is much closer. It makes it look as if all the talk about transportation efficiencies was a sham and they got bullied into leaving Langley alone. I've heard all the arguments about how traffic is worse in Herndon so the commuting times wouldn't be reduced as much as you'd think, but people will look at the maps and draw their own conclusions.

They don't really care about optics when it comes to Langley/Herndon.

For the past ten years, I've heard talk of moving Great Falls kids from Langley to Herndon. For some reason, certain posters keep bringing it up.

Doesn’t matter what they think. It's not going to happen.

Full stop.

Why because you and your rich friends founded some sort of association that is lobbying against it? Donating thousands to school board members? You're trying to buy your way out of being rezoned and everybody knows it.

I am in FairFACTs Matters and no where close to Langley nor Herndon. Nor WSHS and Lewis.

There’s also no requirement to donate anything.

+2 it’s literally just a FB group. You can join it whenever you want!

A Fb group that raised over $50,000.

They regularly pay for FOIA requests, which add up.

I wouldn't donate to them, but I hope they are using the funds for what they were intended for.

Thanks for that information. Sad that there has to be a group that needs FOIA. I am grateful to those who donate. If FCPS would be more transparent, FOIA would not be necessary.

It was only through FairFacts’ advocacy that the BRAC member list was disclosed and that they started putting their meeting notes online. Otherwise we’d all be in the dark about this.

Also noting they just posted this. Thus far, this has been the only way for community members to engage with the closed-door BRAC. The pyramid nor special interest members are not doing this unless you happen to have a direct connection.

“For those looking to send community feedback, please email us at [e-mail] with your questions or comments. We have already submitted three communications reflecting community feedback and will continue to share the most commonly asked questions moving forward. We will provide previous communications with community feedback below.“

How disgusting that these people are only sharing information with a small handful of members of the county who live in one specific area and not everyone.

Also it's clearly not a Facebook group when they have their own domain.

Maybe you don’t understand. Fairfacts matters is soliciting feedback to provide to Fairfax County, since they have spots on BRAC now. They are opening the dialogue to everyone across the county, not just one particular pyramid. Oh, and it seems that anyone can join- it’s a county-wide organization.

I’m guessing you understand and that you are just desperately trying to make them the bad guy, but just in case you didn’t understand, I figured i would directly address your concerns.

Are they politically motivated? Just answer the question.

If you're asking if the group is a bunch of Republicans calling attention to school boundaries in an effort to swing elections, the answer is a definitive "no."

There are certainly a handful of republicans who reminded the group in its first weeks that they voted for the fairfax dems who have had re-districting for equity on their agenda for years now. A few independents who tell the group to accept equity redistricting as the price to pay for all the dem stuff they want their school board to do.

Mostly it's democrats who just want to stay democrats and to work with the board for the outcome they want. The LAST thing they want is to vote for republicans or be called republicans.

Thanks, I just have nightmares about Joanne Sears and Rory Cooper whose open FCPS effort had a very clear Republican agenda and whose agenda worked - angry mommas elected Glenn Youngkin. I don't want a repeat of that.

DP. How's the current all-Democrat SB working for you?

Fine actually.

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Anonymous wrote:Come on, folks.

Let’s be realistic. The school board will never approve a move from Langley to Herndon. Herndon is over 60% capacity, and when/if South Lakes High School (SLHS) closes to transfers, Herndon’s enrollment will only increase.

Let’s stop talking about that scenario. It’s a waste of time.

They seem fairly anchored to leaving schools within the 60-105% range alone, but that's just one of their "guiding principles." They also refer to alignment with Policy 8130 and the SB (if not Thru) could identify that as an independent basis to move kids from Langley to Herndon regardless of whether Langley is over 105% or Herndon under 60%.

I'm not advocating for this. I just think that, politically, the optics are horrible if they propose to move kids who live within a mile or two of West Springfield to Lewis or South County, and do nothing to move at least some Langley kids to Herndon when Herndon is much closer. It makes it look as if all the talk about transportation efficiencies was a sham and they got bullied into leaving Langley alone. I've heard all the arguments about how traffic is worse in Herndon so the commuting times wouldn't be reduced as much as you'd think, but people will look at the maps and draw their own conclusions.

They don't really care about optics when it comes to Langley/Herndon.

For the past ten years, I've heard talk of moving Great Falls kids from Langley to Herndon. For some reason, certain posters keep bringing it up.

Doesn’t matter what they think. It's not going to happen.

Full stop.

Why because you and your rich friends founded some sort of association that is lobbying against it? Donating thousands to school board members? You're trying to buy your way out of being rezoned and everybody knows it.

I am in FairFACTs Matters and no where close to Langley nor Herndon. Nor WSHS and Lewis.

There’s also no requirement to donate anything.

+2 it’s literally just a FB group. You can join it whenever you want!

A Fb group that raised over $50,000.

They regularly pay for FOIA requests, which add up.

I wouldn't donate to them, but I hope they are using the funds for what they were intended for.

Thanks for that information. Sad that there has to be a group that needs FOIA. I am grateful to those who donate. If FCPS would be more transparent, FOIA would not be necessary.

It was only through FairFacts’ advocacy that the BRAC member list was disclosed and that they started putting their meeting notes online. Otherwise we’d all be in the dark about this.

Also noting they just posted this. Thus far, this has been the only way for community members to engage with the closed-door BRAC. The pyramid nor special interest members are not doing this unless you happen to have a direct connection.

“For those looking to send community feedback, please email us at [e-mail] with your questions or comments. We have already submitted three communications reflecting community feedback and will continue to share the most commonly asked questions moving forward. We will provide previous communications with community feedback below.“

How disgusting that these people are only sharing information with a small handful of members of the county who live in one specific area and not everyone.

Also it's clearly not a Facebook group when they have their own domain.

Maybe you don’t understand. Fairfacts matters is soliciting feedback to provide to Fairfax County, since they have spots on BRAC now. They are opening the dialogue to everyone across the county, not just one particular pyramid. Oh, and it seems that anyone can join- it’s a county-wide organization.

I’m guessing you understand and that you are just desperately trying to make them the bad guy, but just in case you didn’t understand, I figured i would directly address your concerns.

Bravo. I'm so sick of the PP making up nonsense to further her warped narrative. Thank for setting them straight.

There are several people posting here. I wish you'd all start your own thread. Maybe I'll start one for you.

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Anonymous wrote:Come on, folks.

Let’s be realistic. The school board will never approve a move from Langley to Herndon. Herndon is over 60% capacity, and when/if South Lakes High School (SLHS) closes to transfers, Herndon’s enrollment will only increase.

Let’s stop talking about that scenario. It’s a waste of time.

They seem fairly anchored to leaving schools within the 60-105% range alone, but that's just one of their "guiding principles." They also refer to alignment with Policy 8130 and the SB (if not Thru) could identify that as an independent basis to move kids from Langley to Herndon regardless of whether Langley is over 105% or Herndon under 60%.

I'm not advocating for this. I just think that, politically, the optics are horrible if they propose to move kids who live within a mile or two of West Springfield to Lewis or South County, and do nothing to move at least some Langley kids to Herndon when Herndon is much closer. It makes it look as if all the talk about transportation efficiencies was a sham and they got bullied into leaving Langley alone. I've heard all the arguments about how traffic is worse in Herndon so the commuting times wouldn't be reduced as much as you'd think, but people will look at the maps and draw their own conclusions.

They don't really care about optics when it comes to Langley/Herndon.

For the past ten years, I've heard talk of moving Great Falls kids from Langley to Herndon. For some reason, certain posters keep bringing it up.

Doesn’t matter what they think. It's not going to happen.

Full stop.

Why because you and your rich friends founded some sort of association that is lobbying against it? Donating thousands to school board members? You're trying to buy your way out of being rezoned and everybody knows it.

I am in FairFACTs Matters and no where close to Langley nor Herndon. Nor WSHS and Lewis.

There’s also no requirement to donate anything.

+2 it’s literally just a FB group. You can join it whenever you want!

A Fb group that raised over $50,000.

They regularly pay for FOIA requests, which add up.

I wouldn't donate to them, but I hope they are using the funds for what they were intended for.

Thanks for that information. Sad that there has to be a group that needs FOIA. I am grateful to those who donate. If FCPS would be more transparent, FOIA would not be necessary.

It was only through FairFacts’ advocacy that the BRAC member list was disclosed and that they started putting their meeting notes online. Otherwise we’d all be in the dark about this.

Also noting they just posted this. Thus far, this has been the only way for community members to engage with the closed-door BRAC. The pyramid nor special interest members are not doing this unless you happen to have a direct connection.

“For those looking to send community feedback, please email us at [e-mail] with your questions or comments. We have already submitted three communications reflecting community feedback and will continue to share the most commonly asked questions moving forward. We will provide previous communications with community feedback below.“

How disgusting that these people are only sharing information with a small handful of members of the county who live in one specific area and not everyone.

Also it's clearly not a Facebook group when they have their own domain.

Maybe you don’t understand. Fairfacts matters is soliciting feedback to provide to Fairfax County, since they have spots on BRAC now. They are opening the dialogue to everyone across the county, not just one particular pyramid. Oh, and it seems that anyone can join- it’s a county-wide organization.

I’m guessing you understand and that you are just desperately trying to make them the bad guy, but just in case you didn’t understand, I figured i would directly address your concerns.

Are they politically motivated? Just answer the question.

If you're asking if the group is a bunch of Republicans calling attention to school boundaries in an effort to swing elections, the answer is a definitive "no."

There are certainly a handful of republicans who reminded the group in its first weeks that they voted for the fairfax dems who have had re-districting for equity on their agenda for years now. A few independents who tell the group to accept equity redistricting as the price to pay for all the dem stuff they want their school board to do.

Mostly it's democrats who just want to stay democrats and to work with the board for the outcome they want. The LAST thing they want is to vote for republicans or be called republicans.

Thanks, I just have nightmares about Joanne Sears and Rory Cooper whose open FCPS effort had a very clear Republican agenda and whose agenda worked - angry mommas elected Glenn Youngkin. I don't want a repeat of that.

And, you think shifting kids all over the county is going to elect a Democrat?

All I'm saying is that I'm tired of these politically motivated organizations saying they're doing what's best for students when really it's all about politics. I've seen it all over this board and it's going to get worse as we get closer and closer to the election. Every year like clockwork, they come and they post here (both sides) and try to scare parent into voting for them by talking about how horrible the schools are. The truth it, the schools are good, and motivated students with parents who guide them are going to do great no matter where they are zoned.

Hi there. I can tell you that I used to vote for Democrats, but can’t anymore because of the boundary changes. I don’t think I could live with myself if I voted the same way at the national level, but the democrats have really shot themselves in the foot with the boundary change stuff. There is a reason why those political groups focus on this issue - It’s broadly unpopular across the political spectrum.

If you’re just saying that you don’t want scrutiny of the school board and it’s extreme actions/agenda, just say it, don’t dance around the issue. It sounds like you ardently believe in the boundary changes, and are trying to deflect scrutiny on them. Just say that.