Gaza war and College Campus Protests

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You say 40,000 dead. You’re relying on numbers supplied by Hamas - an unreliable terrorist organization - and the majority of the number is comprised by Hamas terrorist, not innocent civilians.

You say the word “genocide.” The population of Palestinians has increased substantially over the past few decades.

You say that Palestinians are suffering solely because of Israel’s actions. Yet the terrorist organization elected by them uses them as human shields.

You speak of the nakba in 1948. Palestinians have never accepted the truth - it was a war, not a genocide, and the Palestinians lost that war. That is the root of this entire problem.

A genocide means targeted racial/ ethnic cleansing like what Hitler did. It doesn’t mean killing every single person. Jews still existed and created Israel after their genocide

Actually, Jews were expelled (or face death) from their homelands in countries such as Iran. They were not welcome in other Arab countries. Guess you missed that part of history.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Its baffling to me that people believe Hamas wants anything that resembles a ceasefire. They don't. They want violence and death. They will never agree to anything that improves Palestinian lives or empowers Palestinians. That would deplete their own power. You have to understand the psycopath's mind to understand Hamas.

That’s great propaganda and all, except Hamas already offered to step down and de-militarize its remaining members. The U.S. clumsily confirmed that in May and June, which makes you a liar for asserting that they seek to hold onto power at any cost.

Maybe you’re confusing Hamas for the actual terrorists in the region? You can find them in the Knesset, where Netanyahu is playing you and your Zionist brethren like incompetent fiddles … daily.

What a joke. Hamas ceding power is laughable. They would be out launching rockets the day after any deal. That is all they know how to do, unfortunately. Murder, rape, torture and kidnap Jews. Not improve Palestinian lives.

I guess that’s your way of conceding that your welcome mat for a Hamas surrender to commit to a ceasefire is just empty talk and - how terribly unsurprising - perfectly on brand with your irrepressible dishonesty.

Huh? Oh I see...you are assuming I am Israeli and/or Jewish. That way, you can lean on tropes rather than face the reality of a hopeless future for Palestinians because of Hamas' psychopathic decisions.

I reject Hamas, have rejected the policies and actions of Hamas since Day 1, and am neither Palestinian nor Muslim, so swing-and-a-miss.

But curious that you have such vibrant views of conflict in a region that you purport to have no connection to. How did that come about?

I am sick and tired of people like you pepetuating tropes (i.e. your dishonesty comment) and equating Israeli civilians and American Jews with the Israeli government. We don't do the same for civilians in Gaza, American Muslims and Hamas. Its a double standard. If calling out such comments makes my views "vibrant", so be it.

There’s a lunatic on this very page, in this very thread (you, perhaps?), posting that every single casualty (beyond the 40,000+ deaths and including the hundreds of thousands of injured and displaced) since 10/7 are all militant members of Hamas by virtue of their Palestinian heritage.

Any other regions you feel the verve to fight over without any connection?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Its baffling to me that people believe Hamas wants anything that resembles a ceasefire. They don't. They want violence and death. They will never agree to anything that improves Palestinian lives or empowers Palestinians. That would deplete their own power. You have to understand the psycopath's mind to understand Hamas.

That’s great propaganda and all, except Hamas already offered to step down and de-militarize its remaining members. The U.S. clumsily confirmed that in May and June, which makes you a liar for asserting that they seek to hold onto power at any cost.

Maybe you’re confusing Hamas for the actual terrorists in the region? You can find them in the Knesset, where Netanyahu is playing you and your Zionist brethren like incompetent fiddles … daily.

What a joke. Hamas ceding power is laughable. They would be out launching rockets the day after any deal. That is all they know how to do, unfortunately. Murder, rape, torture and kidnap Jews. Not improve Palestinian lives.

I guess that’s your way of conceding that your welcome mat for a Hamas surrender to commit to a ceasefire is just empty talk and - how terribly unsurprising - perfectly on brand with your irrepressible dishonesty.

Huh? Oh I see...you are assuming I am Israeli and/or Jewish. That way, you can lean on tropes rather than face the reality of a hopeless future for Palestinians because of Hamas' psychopathic decisions.

I reject Hamas, have rejected the policies and actions of Hamas since Day 1, and am neither Palestinian nor Muslim, so swing-and-a-miss.

But curious that you have such vibrant views of conflict in a region that you purport to have no connection to. How did that come about?

I am sick and tired of people like you pepetuating tropes (i.e. your dishonesty comment) and equating Israeli civilians and American Jews with the Israeli government. We don't do the same for civilians in Gaza, American Muslims and Hamas. Its a double standard. If calling out such comments makes my views "vibrant", so be it.

There’s a lunatic on this very page, in this very thread (you, perhaps?), posting that every single casualty (beyond the 40,000+ deaths and including the hundreds of thousands of injured and displaced) since 10/7 are all militant members of Hamas by virtue of their Palestinian heritage.

Any other regions you feel the verve to fight over without any connection?

No clue what you are talking about so you must be referring to a different poster. I did notice you chose not to address your use of tropes, though. And anyone is welcome to discuss any topic on this forum, last I checked.

[Anonymous]

Why and what are the Israelis protesting? The IDF needs to be sent in and crack some heads.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You say 40,000 dead. You’re relying on numbers supplied by Hamas - an unreliable terrorist organization - and the majority of the number is comprised by Hamas terrorist, not innocent civilians.

You say the word “genocide.” The population of Palestinians has increased substantially over the past few decades.

You say that Palestinians are suffering solely because of Israel’s actions. Yet the terrorist organization elected by them uses them as human shields.

You speak of the nakba in 1948. Palestinians have never accepted the truth - it was a war, not a genocide, and the Palestinians lost that war. That is the root of this entire problem.

A genocide means targeted racial/ ethnic cleansing like what Hitler did. It doesn’t mean killing every single person. Jews still existed and created Israel after their genocide

Actually, Jews were expelled (or face death) from their homelands in countries such as Iran. They were not welcome in other Arab countries. Guess you missed that part of history.

There are Jews in Iranian parliament now. Many refused to leave Iran to emigrate for Israel even with promise of compensation from Israel. They felt like they are Iranians who happen to be Jewish and not aspiring Israelis to be

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why and what are the Israelis protesting? The IDF needs to be sent in and crack some heads.

That’s part of the problem kid.

A civil war in Israel helps Hamas

[Anonymous]

Both sides provide really strong arguments that I don’t think this will ever lead to anything but gridlock

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Its baffling to me that people believe Hamas wants anything that resembles a ceasefire. They don't. They want violence and death. They will never agree to anything that improves Palestinian lives or empowers Palestinians. That would deplete their own power. You have to understand the psycopath's mind to understand Hamas.

That’s great propaganda and all, except Hamas already offered to step down and de-militarize its remaining members. The U.S. clumsily confirmed that in May and June, which makes you a liar for asserting that they seek to hold onto power at any cost.

Maybe you’re confusing Hamas for the actual terrorists in the region? You can find them in the Knesset, where Netanyahu is playing you and your Zionist brethren like incompetent fiddles … daily.

What a joke. Hamas ceding power is laughable. They would be out launching rockets the day after any deal. That is all they know how to do, unfortunately. Murder, rape, torture and kidnap Jews. Not improve Palestinian lives.

I guess that’s your way of conceding that your welcome mat for a Hamas surrender to commit to a ceasefire is just empty talk and - how terribly unsurprising - perfectly on brand with your irrepressible dishonesty.

Huh? Oh I see...you are assuming I am Israeli and/or Jewish. That way, you can lean on tropes rather than face the reality of a hopeless future for Palestinians because of Hamas' psychopathic decisions.

I reject Hamas, have rejected the policies and actions of Hamas since Day 1, and am neither Palestinian nor Muslim, so swing-and-a-miss.

But curious that you have such vibrant views of conflict in a region that you purport to have no connection to. How did that come about?

I am sick and tired of people like you pepetuating tropes (i.e. your dishonesty comment) and equating Israeli civilians and American Jews with the Israeli government. We don't do the same for civilians in Gaza, American Muslims and Hamas. Its a double standard. If calling out such comments makes my views "vibrant", so be it.

There’s a lunatic on this very page, in this very thread (you, perhaps?), posting that every single casualty (beyond the 40,000+ deaths and including the hundreds of thousands of injured and displaced) since 10/7 are all militant members of Hamas by virtue of their Palestinian heritage.

Any other regions you feel the verve to fight over without any connection?

No clue what you are talking about so you must be referring to a different poster. I did notice you chose not to address your use of tropes, though. And anyone is welcome to discuss any topic on this forum, last I checked.

I don’t address straw men, language intentionally characterized as a trope or anti-semitic that is neither, etc. it’s not a trope that the government of the State of Israel is considered, by a vast margin, the most dishonest member of the U.N.

[Anonymous]

The next intifada or shaking off appears to be from Israelis wanting to resist Netanyahu.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why and what are the Israelis protesting? The IDF needs to be sent in and crack some heads.

They are protesting because Netanyahu did not agree to the ceasefire earlier this summer and now more hostages are killed. His war is not helping anyone or anything.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why and what are the Israelis protesting? The IDF needs to be sent in and crack some heads.

They are protesting because Netanyahu did not agree to the ceasefire earlier this summer and now more hostages are killed. His war is not helping anyone or anything.

Maybe not, but it is certainly arousing TF outta Zionists here in America who are engorged by every report of Palestinian slaughter. It’s disgusting conduct that would lead to mayhem on our streets if the cartoonishly massive power imbalance was suddenly inverted …

Just imagine: 40,000+ dead Israelis, several hundred thousand with serious injury, and millions chased from their homes as bombs and other armament blow out their eardrums. Hard to envision the same “Oh, well, war is terrible” responses.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Its baffling to me that people believe Hamas wants anything that resembles a ceasefire. They don't. They want violence and death. They will never agree to anything that improves Palestinian lives or empowers Palestinians. That would deplete their own power. You have to understand the psycopath's mind to understand Hamas.

That’s great propaganda and all, except Hamas already offered to step down and de-militarize its remaining members. The U.S. clumsily confirmed that in May and June, which makes you a liar for asserting that they seek to hold onto power at any cost.

Maybe you’re confusing Hamas for the actual terrorists in the region? You can find them in the Knesset, where Netanyahu is playing you and your Zionist brethren like incompetent fiddles … daily.

What a joke. Hamas ceding power is laughable. They would be out launching rockets the day after any deal. That is all they know how to do, unfortunately. Murder, rape, torture and kidnap Jews. Not improve Palestinian lives.

I guess that’s your way of conceding that your welcome mat for a Hamas surrender to commit to a ceasefire is just empty talk and - how terribly unsurprising - perfectly on brand with your irrepressible dishonesty.

Huh? Oh I see...you are assuming I am Israeli and/or Jewish. That way, you can lean on tropes rather than face the reality of a hopeless future for Palestinians because of Hamas' psychopathic decisions.

I reject Hamas, have rejected the policies and actions of Hamas since Day 1, and am neither Palestinian nor Muslim, so swing-and-a-miss.

But curious that you have such vibrant views of conflict in a region that you purport to have no connection to. How did that come about?

I am sick and tired of people like you pepetuating tropes (i.e. your dishonesty comment) and equating Israeli civilians and American Jews with the Israeli government. We don't do the same for civilians in Gaza, American Muslims and Hamas. Its a double standard. If calling out such comments makes my views "vibrant", so be it.

There’s a lunatic on this very page, in this very thread (you, perhaps?), posting that every single casualty (beyond the 40,000+ deaths and including the hundreds of thousands of injured and displaced) since 10/7 are all militant members of Hamas by virtue of their Palestinian heritage.

Any other regions you feel the verve to fight over without any connection?

No clue what you are talking about so you must be referring to a different poster. I did notice you chose not to address your use of tropes, though. And anyone is welcome to discuss any topic on this forum, last I checked.

I don’t address straw men, language intentionally characterized as a trope or anti-semitic that is neither, etc. it’s not a trope that the government of the State of Israel is considered, by a vast margin, the most dishonest member of the U.N.

And yet you chacterized me, an individual, as dishonest when you were referring to the government of Israel? Lumped me in with them? Makes zero sense.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why and what are the Israelis protesting? The IDF needs to be sent in and crack some heads.

They are protesting because Netanyahu did not agree to the ceasefire earlier this summer and now more hostages are killed. His war is not helping anyone or anything.

Maybe not, but it is certainly arousing TF outta Zionists here in America who are engorged by every report of Palestinian slaughter. It’s disgusting conduct that would lead to mayhem on our streets if the cartoonishly massive power imbalance was suddenly inverted …

Just imagine: 40,000+ dead Israelis, several hundred thousand with serious injury, and millions chased from their homes as bombs and other armament blow out their eardrums. Hard to envision the same “Oh, well, war is terrible” responses.

You are weird. Keep calling everyone who does not jump on your bandwagon a zionist. It is really helping Palestinians!

[Anonymous]

Some strange folks on here tonight.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why and what are the Israelis protesting? The IDF needs to be sent in and crack some heads.

They are protesting because Netanyahu did not agree to the ceasefire earlier this summer and now more hostages are killed. His war is not helping anyone or anything.

Maybe not, but it is certainly arousing TF outta Zionists here in America who are engorged by every report of Palestinian slaughter. It’s disgusting conduct that would lead to mayhem on our streets if the cartoonishly massive power imbalance was suddenly inverted …

Just imagine: 40,000+ dead Israelis, several hundred thousand with serious injury, and millions chased from their homes as bombs and other armament blow out their eardrums. Hard to envision the same “Oh, well, war is terrible” responses.

Huh? Word salad is back.