Blake Lively- Jason Baldoni and NYT - False Light claims

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Anonymous wrote:Well well well. The SNL “joke” was all Ryan’s idea (and presumably facilitated by Ari thru Lorne)…

https://pagesix.com/2025/02/19/entertainment/ryan-reynolds-pitched-snl-50-joke-about-justin-baldoni-legal-drama-staffer-claims/

That doesn't say the banter was his idea. After rehearsals he pitched to change what he would answer. We don't know what the original line would have been.

The original line wasn’t related to suit and SNL has said wouldn’t have him say anything controversial without his approval— and he doesn’t work for SNL and a guest spot so yes, RR had total control for what said and wouldn’t say

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It also is possible she needed 4 weeks to recover but then someone else or a location wasn't available and schedules didn't align until 6 months later.

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Imagine these people having to work real life jobs.

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Anonymous wrote:Well well well. The SNL “joke” was all Ryan’s idea (and presumably facilitated by Ari thru Lorne)…

https://pagesix.com/2025/02/19/entertainment/ryan-reynolds-pitched-snl-50-joke-about-justin-baldoni-legal-drama-staffer-claims/

This leak teases out SNL cast and staff never wanted to be a part of this and don't want to be blamed for something so distasteful.

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Anonymous wrote:I mean, clearly we're not going to convince one another here. Somehow this guy specifically hires the same PR firm as Amber Heard so that Lively can be decimated in the same way online -- to the extent that Baldoni wonders if the PR people are going hard enough, multiple times, except he draws the line at bots that look like bots because he doesn't want it coming back at him -- classy. This is the guy who has become some sort of cultural hero to you who you want to win $300 million. I think that's sad. *shrug*

So what should he have done? Honest question. He hired a crisis PR firm, it’s hard to believe if this were your husband or friend you wouldn’t support him doing that.

I think Hollywood PR is a nasty business for sure but she gave him no choice. She had 45 plus million followers (she’s lost a few hundred thousand recently). She leaked that she was fat shamed and worse. She banned him from the premiere, and was setting up to take over the sequel. People were starting to speculate and who could blame them? Wow, he must’ve really acted horribly onset. He must be a harasser or abuser. This is not great if you’re trying to build up your career as a producer and a director and a podcaster. And sure enough She ended up going to the meet to writer of the New York Times. And I think her PR team completely swayed the times as we have seen because they did really sloppy reporting and even if they don’t end up losing this case, a lot of people have questioned their tactics here and whether it was fair reporting.

There were texts to the PR team showing how scared he was of her. He knew more was coming and he was trying to be proactive and no one could freaking blame him. It seems like he hired the right guy with Freedman. I don’t exactly like the guy, but I think he’s been smart and how he has handled this.

He didn't sound scared to me when he was saying he didn't think the PR firm had his back enough, or when he was sending around a picture of some embattled woman saying "this is exactly the kind of thing we need" or when he was saying oh but wait let's not use bots (because that would be too obvious). He sounded like he was hiring a service to decimate someone he hated. He is not some victim for hiring this PR firm that destroyed Amber Heard's life. I don't feel sorry for him for doing that. That wasn't his only way out.

I don't agree with much of what you say above (she didn't ban him from the premier, he watched it in a different theater in the same building, walked the red carpet, etc). He made a sh!t ton of money on the film, and yet somehow the social media accounts of all the women were attacked. Maybe the lawyers should have gotten together and tried harder to work out some sort of agreement that both sides could have been happy with. Maybe he should have taken his pile of money, bit his tongue, and said something nice about Lively that was perhaps less than she originally wanted but more than he originally did, and worked it out and gone to the finish line together. And maybe, just maybe, he shouldn't ever have done some of this stuff on set in the first place. One thing he certainly should not have done is hired the same PR firm that took down Amber Heard and told them to go even harder than they were planning to, especially when he specifically agreed that he would not retaliate against Lively in the first place. That's why the NYT got involved in the first place, which is how everybody heard about this case. For that, he's the villain to me and not the victim.

He didn’t do anything to her let’s get that straight. I have heard zero inappropriate stuff including that she invited him in her trailer breast feeding and he questioned whether he should go. Was that a set up? Was the txt in the middle of the night a set up? It’s his movie and why is his name
not on it? He was also starring and is not on any of the posters? Why did he have to go to the basement at the premiere? It was crazy? His mistake was being to nice and trying to let her crazy behavior go. Can you imagine telling Robert Dinero to sit in the basement for a premiere? He would have said no it is
my movie. Sheesh

If you look at her allegations and honestly think that he did "zero inappropriate stuff," then we just see the case very differently and will not be able to agree on much at all.

You are moving the goal post. Justin is not the perfect victim for sure. He probably could’ve done better on that set. But to say that he deserved to have his whole career trashed and his reputation in the toilet forever so that Blake and Ryan could get another high grossing movie under their belt is insane. And you know it, you just have nothing left so you’re just going to keep posting about random slightly inappropriate behavior that was really not that bad and probably tame compared to what happens on most sets.

I didn't move the goalposts, I responded to a PP who said, literally word for word, "He didn't do anything to her let's get that straight. I have heard zero inappropriate stuff including that she invited him in her trailer breast feeding and he questioned whether he should go." I'm responding to PP who is literally comparing Justin Baldoni to Robert De Niro, so in all fairness I really don't think I'm the one moving the goalposts here, but in any case I suspect we're just not going to agree.

You are nitpicking. Simply nitpicking about minor offenses when Ryan and Blake literally threw a bomb into this man’s house.

Funny thing is, it doesn’t even matter. Even if Blake and Ryan win this lawsuit, they will never be seen in the same light again. 10 years from now, people are still going to be saying “hi kaleesi!” in Blake’s social media posts. She’s never going to live that down.

No more double date nights with Taylor either lol. she burned that bridge by dragging her into the drama.

And I’d be shocked if she ever did a movie that Ryan doesn’t produce. Men are going to be very wary of working with her.

They did not literally throw a bomb under his house? What?

What is it you think they did that is so much worse than what he is alleged to have done. I genuinely don't understand.

NP. Obviously she didn’t mean literally but we all get it, and agree. Ryan and Blake went nuclear and then BL ran to play the victim. No one’s buying it

See, I feel JB is playing the victim. He makes it sound like he had no agency in any of this. That anything he might have done wrong was just a misunderstanding, and that everything bad that happened was the result if malice on the other side. I don't buy it.

I wonder if all of us who can “buy it”have had firsthand experiences with narcissistic people. I’m not saying she’s a narcissist or that he is innocent —I’m just wondering where the deep divide stems from. I have been on the wrong end of offending a narcissist (or some similar personality disorder), and it’s truly terrifying how they can turn on you and actually believe they are the victim. It takes a minute for you to catch up! Your first instinct is that you are misunderstood, so you try even harder, but they just feed off of it and then they think you are weak. And then while they’re busy being evil to you, they will work that much harder to make others love them. I can imagine that happened here. It’s possible it didn’t.

I'm PP and I find them both to have narcissistic tendencies. I think Baldoni has a tendency towards vulnerable narcissism (where he is constantly sympathy seeking and using his supposed deficiencies or challenges as an excuse for never being accountable and always being the center of attention). Lively strikes me as someone with Main Character Syndrome, though I suspect that's very common in Hollywood.

This makes a lot of sense.

I especially see this with his health issues. I used to work for a vulnerable narcissist and she was like this. She always has an ailment she was nursing, she over shared a lot about it, and it was a frequently used excuse for her bad behavior. Baldoni is like this with his back issues, which seems to flare up when he is feeling threatened or stressed. Now, I do believe in the mind-body connection and i believe he has back issues, but narcissists will lean into it for sympathy any time they are getting criticism -- it detracts from valid criticism and changes the subject.

He also does this in his communications a lot -- very sympathy seeking and woe is me in his texts and emails to both fellow producers and to Blake. He likes being the victim.

It can be a really tough personality because it's very hard to ever have a direct conversation about Amy if their flaws or mistakes. They are brilliant at twisting it around. The focus is always on how your criticism hurt them, and never on whatever it was you were criticizing them for.

Interesting you mention his health issues but not hers. Lots of podcasts I’m listening to have picked up on how many times she was sick throughout the production. I think she had strep throat five times? And I think Covid and other things. Ryan even joked that Blake and his girls may have an immune system, but it’s beta testing in one of his texts to Justin.

She did a movie called the rhythm section and it was shut down for six months because Blake broke a knuckle. I just quickly googled how long it takes a broken knuckle to heal. It’s about 4 to 6 weeks. Complete mystery as to why she needed six months off. Interestingly, that movie has the distinction of being the biggest bomb of a theatrical release in cinematic history.

I don’t think it’s fair to pick on his health issues and not point out that she has been sick on multiple movies multiple times.

A movie was shut down because Blake broke a knuckle?!?! Omg.

I know nothing about it except a quick google search says she had torn ligaments, a dislocation, and a 'few' breaks and that she had two surgeries and months of physio to regain full use of her hand.

And of course a proven liar would never lie.

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Anonymous wrote:Well well well. The SNL “joke” was all Ryan’s idea (and presumably facilitated by Ari thru Lorne)…

https://pagesix.com/2025/02/19/entertainment/ryan-reynolds-pitched-snl-50-joke-about-justin-baldoni-legal-drama-staffer-claims/

This leak teases out SNL cast and staff never wanted to be a part of this and don't want to be blamed for something so distasteful.

Yup. SNL is distancing from this as they should.

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What does it matter (I mean for purposes of Blake's lawsuit, not in general) if Justin SH other women on set? I'm not saying he did, but IF. That would be their claim to pursue or not; Blake can't pursue it on their behalf. She has to prove that SHE was SH, not "well other people felt this way too so I must be right."

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Anonymous wrote:What does it matter (I mean for purposes of Blake's lawsuit, not in general) if Justin SH other women on set? I'm not saying he did, but IF. That would be their claim to pursue or not; Blake can't pursue it on their behalf. She has to prove that SHE was SH, not "well other people felt this way too so I must be right."

When people seem to be glossing over, is the January 4 all hands meeting, sexual harassment was never ever once uttered. The word sexual harassment did not come up until Blake wanted to sue. What they were meeting about was at best unprofessional behavior and Blake feeling uncomfortable. No one utters those words and there was never claims made to Sony or Wayfair or anyone about sexual harassment. That cannot be disputed.

When Wayfair signed the document, there was no mention of harassment. They were agreeing to have a more professional set and trying to make Blake more comfortable. It just seemed that after the marketing went haywire that’s when she wanted to up the ante.

Another thing I find fascinating is they keep blaming Sony for the marketing plan, conveniently, leaving out that they hired Ryan’s marketing company, maximum effort to market the film. All the pop-ups, all the crossover with Blakes drink line, all the grab your girls and put on your florals was with maximum effort. I love how they conveniently leave that out and try to throw Sony under the bus. She has not taken responsibility for one thing.

I don’t care if Justin was somewhat unprofessional or socially awkward. He doesn’t deserve this.

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Anonymous wrote:What does it matter (I mean for purposes of Blake's lawsuit, not in general) if Justin SH other women on set? I'm not saying he did, but IF. That would be their claim to pursue or not; Blake can't pursue it on their behalf. She has to prove that SHE was SH, not "well other people felt this way too so I must be right."

If there are real complaints and not just actresses sympathizing with her texts, that's huge for her. It gives credibility to her harassment claims being real. It legitimizes her HR meeting and demands for return to production as necessary and not part of a takeover plot. It would demonstrate that 3 women felt harassed so this is more likely to meet a reasonable person standard for what is harassment than just Blake's subjective perception of being uncomfortable. It would be especially helpful if their claims were similar to hers regarding attempts to add nudity, etc. Hostile work environment SH has to do with a pervasive pattern of behavior on set so it would help a lot.

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Anonymous wrote:Imagine these people having to work real life jobs.

So true. This has really pulled back the curtain about what a cesspool this industry is. I really don’t like one person involved LOL.

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Anonymous wrote:What does it matter (I mean for purposes of Blake's lawsuit, not in general) if Justin SH other women on set? I'm not saying he did, but IF. That would be their claim to pursue or not; Blake can't pursue it on their behalf. She has to prove that SHE was SH, not "well other people felt this way too so I must be right."

If there are real complaints and not just actresses sympathizing with her texts, that's huge for her. It gives credibility to her harassment claims being real. It legitimizes her HR meeting and demands for return to production as necessary and not part of a takeover plot. It would demonstrate that 3 women felt harassed so this is more likely to meet a reasonable person standard for what is harassment than just Blake's subjective perception of being uncomfortable. It would be especially helpful if their claims were similar to hers regarding attempts to add nudity, etc. Hostile work environment SH has to do with a pervasive pattern of behavior on set so it would help a lot.

I don’t think she’ll be able to get there. Both Isabel and Brandon are on record praising baldoni as a great director and specifically mentioned how he created a safe space on set. If they flip now, it’ll 100% come off as coercive on Lively’s part and Freedman will bring that out in cross examination. The jury won’t see them as credible if they flip flop to that degree.

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Anonymous wrote:Imagine these people having to work real life jobs.

So true. This has really pulled back the curtain about what a cesspool this industry is. I really don’t like one person involved LOL.

It was shocking to see how they speak to each other, with zero professionalism or boundaries, and that includes Lively with her dragons and yummy with no teeth bullshit. How can someone complain about crossing boundaries when there are none in the first place? No wonder people like Katherine Heigl get shut out because they try to assert themselves like business people.

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Anonymous wrote:What does it matter (I mean for purposes of Blake's lawsuit, not in general) if Justin SH other women on set? I'm not saying he did, but IF. That would be their claim to pursue or not; Blake can't pursue it on their behalf. She has to prove that SHE was SH, not "well other people felt this way too so I must be right."

If there are real complaints and not just actresses sympathizing with her texts, that's huge for her. It gives credibility to her harassment claims being real. It legitimizes her HR meeting and demands for return to production as necessary and not part of a takeover plot. It would demonstrate that 3 women felt harassed so this is more likely to meet a reasonable person standard for what is harassment than just Blake's subjective perception of being uncomfortable. It would be especially helpful if their claims were similar to hers regarding attempts to add nudity, etc. Hostile work environment SH has to do with a pervasive pattern of behavior on set so it would help a lot.

I don’t think she’ll be able to get there. Both Isabel and Brandon are on record praising baldoni as a great director and specifically mentioned how he created a safe space on set. If they flip now, it’ll 100% come off as coercive on Lively’s part and Freedman will bring that out in cross examination. The jury won’t see them as credible if they flip flop to that degree.

It’s been confirmed that there were no complaints made during production. If formal complaints were made months after production wrapped in fall of 2024, noting production wrapped February 9, that’s going to be a huge red flag.

Also, there’s some speculation that one of the women could be Blake sister. I’m sorry, I would not put it past Blake given how dumb she is, but that would make me laugh.

I find it odd that no other women would publicly come forward at this point. Justin Baldoni is not Harvey Weinstein, he is not that powerful. Blake and Ryan are, and it would seem like they would have some clout and some protection behind them especially given Blake and Ryan have shown they are willing to trade favors and fly people to vacations and get people parts.

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Anonymous wrote:Well well well. The SNL “joke” was all Ryan’s idea (and presumably facilitated by Ari thru Lorne)…

https://pagesix.com/2025/02/19/entertainment/ryan-reynolds-pitched-snl-50-joke-about-justin-baldoni-legal-drama-staffer-claims/

This leak teases out SNL cast and staff never wanted to be a part of this and don't want to be blamed for something so distasteful.

I just want to note that the staffer who us on record in that interview is Wally the cue card guy (familiar to anyone who watches Seth Myers).

Also I don't think there is an anti-Blake consensus at SNL because Bowen Yang came out on her side on his podcast last week.

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Anonymous wrote:Well well well. The SNL “joke” was all Ryan’s idea (and presumably facilitated by Ari thru Lorne)…

https://pagesix.com/2025/02/19/entertainment/ryan-reynolds-pitched-snl-50-joke-about-justin-baldoni-legal-drama-staffer-claims/

This leak teases out SNL cast and staff never wanted to be a part of this and don't want to be blamed for something so distasteful.

This is one person at SNL -- the cue card guy -- saying that what Ryan said changed from how it was originally written. That means Tina's intro of "How are things going, Ryan" or whatever was the same. It also says nothing about the whole Ari whatever connection that PP has speculated on over the last 50 pages and adds no support for that, which so far is completely within PP's head. This is not a position statement by SNL or its staff or Tina Fey or anyone else, but a random comment by the cue card guy.

I haven't ever seen Page Six linked so much in a DCUM thread, ever, and I've got to say it's kind of a gross publication. Who spends their time reading all of this ridiculousness? Who writes it? Blech.