Blake Lively- Jason Baldoni and NYT - False Light claims

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Anonymous wrote:What does it matter (I mean for purposes of Blake's lawsuit, not in general) if Justin SH other women on set? I'm not saying he did, but IF. That would be their claim to pursue or not; Blake can't pursue it on their behalf. She has to prove that SHE was SH, not "well other people felt this way too so I must be right."

If there are real complaints and not just actresses sympathizing with her texts, that's huge for her. It gives credibility to her harassment claims being real. It legitimizes her HR meeting and demands for return to production as necessary and not part of a takeover plot. It would demonstrate that 3 women felt harassed so this is more likely to meet a reasonable person standard for what is harassment than just Blake's subjective perception of being uncomfortable. It would be especially helpful if their claims were similar to hers regarding attempts to add nudity, etc. Hostile work environment SH has to do with a pervasive pattern of behavior on set so it would help a lot.

I don’t think she’ll be able to get there. Both Isabel and Brandon are on record praising baldoni as a great director and specifically mentioned how he created a safe space on set. If they flip now, it’ll 100% come off as coercive on Lively’s part and Freedman will bring that out in cross examination. The jury won’t see them as credible if they flip flop to that degree.

It’s been confirmed that there were no complaints made during production. If formal complaints were made months after production wrapped in fall of 2024, noting production wrapped February 9, that’s going to be a huge red flag.

Also, there’s some speculation that one of the women could be Blake sister. I’m sorry, I would not put it past Blake given how dumb she is, but that would make me laugh.

I find it odd that no other women would publicly come forward at this point. Justin Baldoni is not Harvey Weinstein, he is not that powerful. Blake and Ryan are, and it would seem like they would have some clout and some protection behind them especially given Blake and Ryan have shown they are willing to trade favors and fly people to vacations and get people parts.

I don't think it's accurate to say it's been confirmed there were no complaints. Sony said there were no HR complaints filed, but Lively's complaint says she reached out to Sony to register a complaint and they told her that they were not the production studio so could not receive a complaint about production -- that has to go to Wayfarer. But it sounds like (unlike Sony) Wayfarer didn't have a formal HR process for this kind of complaint. It is obvious from both complaints that Baldoni and Heath and perhaps others at Wayfarer were aware that Lively had issues with certain behavior -- there were multiple texts, emails, and meetings about each incident, well before the January 4 meeting.

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Anonymous wrote:Well well well. The SNL “joke” was all Ryan’s idea (and presumably facilitated by Ari thru Lorne)…

https://pagesix.com/2025/02/19/entertainment/ryan-reynolds-pitched-snl-50-joke-about-justin-baldoni-legal-drama-staffer-claims/

This leak teases out SNL cast and staff never wanted to be a part of this and don't want to be blamed for something so distasteful.

This is one person at SNL -- the cue card guy -- saying that what Ryan said changed from how it was originally written. That means Tina's intro of "How are things going, Ryan" or whatever was the same. It also says nothing about the whole Ari whatever connection that PP has speculated on over the last 50 pages and adds no support for that, which so far is completely within PP's head. This is not a position statement by SNL or its staff or Tina Fey or anyone else, but a random comment by the cue card guy.

I haven't ever seen Page Six linked so much in a DCUM thread, ever, and I've got to say it's kind of a gross publication. Who spends their time reading all of this ridiculousness? Who writes it? Blech.

+1, and I wonder if the cue card guy is going to get a talking to about speaking to Page Six. Seth Myers is on hiatus this week (where Wally makes regular on screen appearances) but I'm betting brass at NBC are displeased with a freaking cue card guy weighing in on this or discussing how the joke was settled on with a gossip site.

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Anonymous wrote:What does it matter (I mean for purposes of Blake's lawsuit, not in general) if Justin SH other women on set? I'm not saying he did, but IF. That would be their claim to pursue or not; Blake can't pursue it on their behalf. She has to prove that SHE was SH, not "well other people felt this way too so I must be right."

If there are real complaints and not just actresses sympathizing with her texts, that's huge for her. It gives credibility to her harassment claims being real. It legitimizes her HR meeting and demands for return to production as necessary and not part of a takeover plot. It would demonstrate that 3 women felt harassed so this is more likely to meet a reasonable person standard for what is harassment than just Blake's subjective perception of being uncomfortable. It would be especially helpful if their claims were similar to hers regarding attempts to add nudity, etc. Hostile work environment SH has to do with a pervasive pattern of behavior on set so it would help a lot.

I don’t think she’ll be able to get there. Both Isabel and Brandon are on record praising baldoni as a great director and specifically mentioned how he created a safe space on set. If they flip now, it’ll 100% come off as coercive on Lively’s part and Freedman will bring that out in cross examination. The jury won’t see them as credible if they flip flop to that degree.

Those were filmed for movie promotion purposes. They said what they were asked / told to say to promote the movie. Jut like Justin apparently said all kinds of nice and amazing things about Blake that he didn't mean and was texting the opposite to others.

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Who would formal HR complaints be made to? Wayfarer? It is odd that no HR person is every mentioned or brought into meetings despite the unprofessional and inappropriate beahviour issues being raised from the beginning. People keep mentioning HR and official complaints but it is very unclear what the process was and who they would go to on set for that? Whose HR department?

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Anonymous wrote:What does it matter (I mean for purposes of Blake's lawsuit, not in general) if Justin SH other women on set? I'm not saying he did, but IF. That would be their claim to pursue or not; Blake can't pursue it on their behalf. She has to prove that SHE was SH, not "well other people felt this way too so I must be right."

If there are real complaints and not just actresses sympathizing with her texts, that's huge for her. It gives credibility to her harassment claims being real. It legitimizes her HR meeting and demands for return to production as necessary and not part of a takeover plot. It would demonstrate that 3 women felt harassed so this is more likely to meet a reasonable person standard for what is harassment than just Blake's subjective perception of being uncomfortable. It would be especially helpful if their claims were similar to hers regarding attempts to add nudity, etc. Hostile work environment SH has to do with a pervasive pattern of behavior on set so it would help a lot.

I don’t think she’ll be able to get there. Both Isabel and Brandon are on record praising baldoni as a great director and specifically mentioned how he created a safe space on set. If they flip now, it’ll 100% come off as coercive on Lively’s part and Freedman will bring that out in cross examination. The jury won’t see them as credible if they flip flop to that degree.

Those were filmed for movie promotion purposes. They said what they were asked / told to say to promote the movie. Jut like Justin apparently said all kinds of nice and amazing things about Blake that he didn't mean and was texting the opposite to others.

Isabel’s was actually in a private text. And for Brandon, he could’ve just said Justin was great or something broad if it were just for promo. Why go on and on about how he created such a safe set and did a great job of balancing being a producer and actor in the film? Flip flopping would definitely look coercive on both their parts, especially given everything we know about the favors they’ve since received from Blake and Ryan.

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Anonymous wrote:What does it matter (I mean for purposes of Blake's lawsuit, not in general) if Justin SH other women on set? I'm not saying he did, but IF. That would be their claim to pursue or not; Blake can't pursue it on their behalf. She has to prove that SHE was SH, not "well other people felt this way too so I must be right."

If there are real complaints and not just actresses sympathizing with her texts, that's huge for her. It gives credibility to her harassment claims being real. It legitimizes her HR meeting and demands for return to production as necessary and not part of a takeover plot. It would demonstrate that 3 women felt harassed so this is more likely to meet a reasonable person standard for what is harassment than just Blake's subjective perception of being uncomfortable. It would be especially helpful if their claims were similar to hers regarding attempts to add nudity, etc. Hostile work environment SH has to do with a pervasive pattern of behavior on set so it would help a lot.

I don’t think she’ll be able to get there. Both Isabel and Brandon are on record praising baldoni as a great director and specifically mentioned how he created a safe space on set. If they flip now, it’ll 100% come off as coercive on Lively’s part and Freedman will bring that out in cross examination. The jury won’t see them as credible if they flip flop to that degree.

Those were filmed for movie promotion purposes. They said what they were asked / told to say to promote the movie. Jut like Justin apparently said all kinds of nice and amazing things about Blake that he didn't mean and was texting the opposite to others.

Isabel’s was actually in a private text. And for Brandon, he could’ve just said Justin was great or something broad if it were just for promo. Why go on and on about how he created such a safe set and did a great job of balancing being a producer and actor in the film? Flip flopping would definitely look coercive on both their parts, especially given everything we know about the favors they’ve since received from Blake and Ryan.

Isabel also did a promo shoot about how great Justin and the set was. I am sure these were all planned by the PR teams. And given how Wayfarer and Justin and Steve talk about people and even wanting them dead and using Israel / Hamas language if they cross them...I can see why they would say whatever script they were given. They aren't well known actors and Steve has billions and can ruin them in a second.

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Anonymous wrote:Well well well. The SNL “joke” was all Ryan’s idea (and presumably facilitated by Ari thru Lorne)…

https://pagesix.com/2025/02/19/entertainment/ryan-reynolds-pitched-snl-50-joke-about-justin-baldoni-legal-drama-staffer-claims/

This leak teases out SNL cast and staff never wanted to be a part of this and don't want to be blamed for something so distasteful.

This is one person at SNL -- the cue card guy -- saying that what Ryan said changed from how it was originally written. That means Tina's intro of "How are things going, Ryan" or whatever was the same. It also says nothing about the whole Ari whatever connection that PP has speculated on over the last 50 pages and adds no support for that, which so far is completely within PP's head. This is not a position statement by SNL or its staff or Tina Fey or anyone else, but a random comment by the cue card guy.

I haven't ever seen Page Six linked so much in a DCUM thread, ever, and I've got to say it's kind of a gross publication. Who spends their time reading all of this ridiculousness? Who writes it? Blech.

You’ve never heard of Page Six? It’s the most popular NYC-centric entertainment tabloid in the world. SNL 50th and all those A-list stars partying in Manhattan is their beat.

I also love how you gloss over 1) why Ryan and Blake were even there and 2) why this crowd work bit was even in the show. They were clearly only there for this bit, which their people obviously moved mountains for to get it forced into the 50th show. Such a bit on such an episode is priceless; you can’t just buy such a thing. Bonafide entertainment muscle at the highest expelled for that. And again, it just illustrates how freaking arrogant and out of touch Blake, Ryan, and their team are. No ability to read the room. Daisy and Tom…

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Anonymous wrote:What does it matter (I mean for purposes of Blake's lawsuit, not in general) if Justin SH other women on set? I'm not saying he did, but IF. That would be their claim to pursue or not; Blake can't pursue it on their behalf. She has to prove that SHE was SH, not "well other people felt this way too so I must be right."

If there are real complaints and not just actresses sympathizing with her texts, that's huge for her. It gives credibility to her harassment claims being real. It legitimizes her HR meeting and demands for return to production as necessary and not part of a takeover plot. It would demonstrate that 3 women felt harassed so this is more likely to meet a reasonable person standard for what is harassment than just Blake's subjective perception of being uncomfortable. It would be especially helpful if their claims were similar to hers regarding attempts to add nudity, etc. Hostile work environment SH has to do with a pervasive pattern of behavior on set so it would help a lot.

I don’t think she’ll be able to get there. Both Isabel and Brandon are on record praising baldoni as a great director and specifically mentioned how he created a safe space on set. If they flip now, it’ll 100% come off as coercive on Lively’s part and Freedman will bring that out in cross examination. The jury won’t see them as credible if they flip flop to that degree.

Those were filmed for movie promotion purposes. They said what they were asked / told to say to promote the movie. Jut like Justin apparently said all kinds of nice and amazing things about Blake that he didn't mean and was texting the opposite to others.

Isabel’s was actually in a private text. And for Brandon, he could’ve just said Justin was great or something broad if it were just for promo. Why go on and on about how he created such a safe set and did a great job of balancing being a producer and actor in the film? Flip flopping would definitely look coercive on both their parts, especially given everything we know about the favors they’ve since received from Blake and Ryan.

It's not ideal for team Blake, but when it comes to the topic of other SH complaints I'd find it much easier to be her lawyer having to explain away a young actress kissing up to the director than Justin's lawyer having to explain why there are others complaints if Blake made it all up. In most other instances, I'd find it easier to be his lawyer but other complaints will be a big problem for his narrative. There will be other factors to consider such as when they were made, what format, to whom, and if they are similar to Lively's allegations.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well well well. The SNL “joke” was all Ryan’s idea (and presumably facilitated by Ari thru Lorne)…

https://pagesix.com/2025/02/19/entertainment/ryan-reynolds-pitched-snl-50-joke-about-justin-baldoni-legal-drama-staffer-claims/

This leak teases out SNL cast and staff never wanted to be a part of this and don't want to be blamed for something so distasteful.

This is one person at SNL -- the cue card guy -- saying that what Ryan said changed from how it was originally written. That means Tina's intro of "How are things going, Ryan" or whatever was the same. It also says nothing about the whole Ari whatever connection that PP has speculated on over the last 50 pages and adds no support for that, which so far is completely within PP's head. This is not a position statement by SNL or its staff or Tina Fey or anyone else, but a random comment by the cue card guy.

I haven't ever seen Page Six linked so much in a DCUM thread, ever, and I've got to say it's kind of a gross publication. Who spends their time reading all of this ridiculousness? Who writes it? Blech.

+1, and I wonder if the cue card guy is going to get a talking to about speaking to Page Six. Seth Myers is on hiatus this week (where Wally makes regular on screen appearances) but I'm betting brass at NBC are displeased with a freaking cue card guy weighing in on this or discussing how the joke was settled on with a gossip site.

Cue card guy is just a prole to you, huh, so hopefully Blake and Ryan’s “people” go ruin his life, too? Is that what you wish for? That “cue card guy” can read a room and safe bet he’s on friendly terms with far more SNL cast and staff than you! He likely speaks for all of them. That bit was tasteless and disgusting.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well well well. The SNL “joke” was all Ryan’s idea (and presumably facilitated by Ari thru Lorne)…

https://pagesix.com/2025/02/19/entertainment/ryan-reynolds-pitched-snl-50-joke-about-justin-baldoni-legal-drama-staffer-claims/

This leak teases out SNL cast and staff never wanted to be a part of this and don't want to be blamed for something so distasteful.

This is one person at SNL -- the cue card guy -- saying that what Ryan said changed from how it was originally written. That means Tina's intro of "How are things going, Ryan" or whatever was the same. It also says nothing about the whole Ari whatever connection that PP has speculated on over the last 50 pages and adds no support for that, which so far is completely within PP's head. This is not a position statement by SNL or its staff or Tina Fey or anyone else, but a random comment by the cue card guy.

I haven't ever seen Page Six linked so much in a DCUM thread, ever, and I've got to say it's kind of a gross publication. Who spends their time reading all of this ridiculousness? Who writes it? Blech.

+1, and I wonder if the cue card guy is going to get a talking to about speaking to Page Six. Seth Myers is on hiatus this week (where Wally makes regular on screen appearances) but I'm betting brass at NBC are displeased with a freaking cue card guy weighing in on this or discussing how the joke was settled on with a gossip site.

And both RR team and NBC are denying that it was RR's idea. Sounds exactly like WME agency dropping Baldoni and denying they were pressured by BL/RR.

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Anonymous wrote:What does it matter (I mean for purposes of Blake's lawsuit, not in general) if Justin SH other women on set? I'm not saying he did, but IF. That would be their claim to pursue or not; Blake can't pursue it on their behalf. She has to prove that SHE was SH, not "well other people felt this way too so I must be right."

If there are real complaints and not just actresses sympathizing with her texts, that's huge for her. It gives credibility to her harassment claims being real. It legitimizes her HR meeting and demands for return to production as necessary and not part of a takeover plot. It would demonstrate that 3 women felt harassed so this is more likely to meet a reasonable person standard for what is harassment than just Blake's subjective perception of being uncomfortable. It would be especially helpful if their claims were similar to hers regarding attempts to add nudity, etc. Hostile work environment SH has to do with a pervasive pattern of behavior on set so it would help a lot.

I don’t think she’ll be able to get there. Both Isabel and Brandon are on record praising baldoni as a great director and specifically mentioned how he created a safe space on set. If they flip now, it’ll 100% come off as coercive on Lively’s part and Freedman will bring that out in cross examination. The jury won’t see them as credible if they flip flop to that degree.

Those were filmed for movie promotion purposes. They said what they were asked / told to say to promote the movie. Jut like Justin apparently said all kinds of nice and amazing things about Blake that he didn't mean and was texting the opposite to others.

Isabel’s was actually in a private text. And for Brandon, he could’ve just said Justin was great or something broad if it were just for promo. Why go on and on about how he created such a safe set and did a great job of balancing being a producer and actor in the film? Flip flopping would definitely look coercive on both their parts, especially given everything we know about the favors they’ve since received from Blake and Ryan.

It's not ideal for team Blake, but when it comes to the topic of other SH complaints I'd find it much easier to be her lawyer having to explain away a young actress kissing up to the director than Justin's lawyer having to explain why there are others complaints if Blake made it all up. In most other instances, I'd find it easier to be his lawyer but other complaints will be a big problem for his narrative. There will be other factors to consider such as when they were made, what format, to whom, and if they are similar to Lively's allegations.

We’ll have to agree to disagree. I think it would look like witness tampering.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well well well. The SNL “joke” was all Ryan’s idea (and presumably facilitated by Ari thru Lorne)…

https://pagesix.com/2025/02/19/entertainment/ryan-reynolds-pitched-snl-50-joke-about-justin-baldoni-legal-drama-staffer-claims/

This leak teases out SNL cast and staff never wanted to be a part of this and don't want to be blamed for something so distasteful.

This is one person at SNL -- the cue card guy -- saying that what Ryan said changed from how it was originally written. That means Tina's intro of "How are things going, Ryan" or whatever was the same. It also says nothing about the whole Ari whatever connection that PP has speculated on over the last 50 pages and adds no support for that, which so far is completely within PP's head. This is not a position statement by SNL or its staff or Tina Fey or anyone else, but a random comment by the cue card guy.

I haven't ever seen Page Six linked so much in a DCUM thread, ever, and I've got to say it's kind of a gross publication. Who spends their time reading all of this ridiculousness? Who writes it? Blech.

+1, and I wonder if the cue card guy is going to get a talking to about speaking to Page Six. Seth Myers is on hiatus this week (where Wally makes regular on screen appearances) but I'm betting brass at NBC are displeased with a freaking cue card guy weighing in on this or discussing how the joke was settled on with a gossip site.

And both RR team and NBC are denying that it was RR's idea. Sounds exactly like WME agency dropping Baldoni and denying they were pressured by BL/RR.

Cue card guy never said it was Ryan's idea. That was just a headline that people saw and ran with. Few actually read the article or looked at what cue card guy actually said. He said Ryan modified his response after rehearsals.

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Anonymous wrote:What does it matter (I mean for purposes of Blake's lawsuit, not in general) if Justin SH other women on set? I'm not saying he did, but IF. That would be their claim to pursue or not; Blake can't pursue it on their behalf. She has to prove that SHE was SH, not "well other people felt this way too so I must be right."

If there are real complaints and not just actresses sympathizing with her texts, that's huge for her. It gives credibility to her harassment claims being real. It legitimizes her HR meeting and demands for return to production as necessary and not part of a takeover plot. It would demonstrate that 3 women felt harassed so this is more likely to meet a reasonable person standard for what is harassment than just Blake's subjective perception of being uncomfortable. It would be especially helpful if their claims were similar to hers regarding attempts to add nudity, etc. Hostile work environment SH has to do with a pervasive pattern of behavior on set so it would help a lot.

I don’t think she’ll be able to get there. Both Isabel and Brandon are on record praising baldoni as a great director and specifically mentioned how he created a safe space on set. If they flip now, it’ll 100% come off as coercive on Lively’s part and Freedman will bring that out in cross examination. The jury won’t see them as credible if they flip flop to that degree.

Those were filmed for movie promotion purposes. They said what they were asked / told to say to promote the movie. Jut like Justin apparently said all kinds of nice and amazing things about Blake that he didn't mean and was texting the opposite to others.

Isabel’s was actually in a private text. And for Brandon, he could’ve just said Justin was great or something broad if it were just for promo. Why go on and on about how he created such a safe set and did a great job of balancing being a producer and actor in the film? Flip flopping would definitely look coercive on both their parts, especially given everything we know about the favors they’ve since received from Blake and Ryan.

It's not ideal for team Blake, but when it comes to the topic of other SH complaints I'd find it much easier to be her lawyer having to explain away a young actress kissing up to the director than Justin's lawyer having to explain why there are others complaints if Blake made it all up. In most other instances, I'd find it easier to be his lawyer but other complaints will be a big problem for his narrative. There will be other factors to consider such as when they were made, what format, to whom, and if they are similar to Lively's allegations.

We’ll have to agree to disagree. I think it would look like witness tampering.

One other thing I just thought about. Ryan’s company did the marketing, which further suggests Isabel and Brandon either really felt it was a safe set or Ryan’s own company included that language in the talking points (which undermines the idea that the harassment stuff was a big deal for the Reynolds parties). Either way, won’t help witness credibility.

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I think it’s sometimes easy to get caught up in the details and not get a look at the big picture. The fact is Liz plank is known to be a renowned feminist and Colleen Hoover’s team did extensive background digging before giving the film over to Baldoni. While I don’t think Hoover is the sharpest knife in the drawer, she has a team behind because her books and movies are big business. The fact that he had a clause against any kind of claim of this nature shows that they took this seriously and they did the best they could to protect Colleen‘s brand. And Liz plank wouldn’t have just done a podcast about feminism with anyone without vetting him. The first instance of anything, before she had heard his side of the story, she quit the podcast and distance himself. So this is someone who takes all of this very seriously and doesn’t mess around.

So safe to say, Justin had a decent reputation before this film. And I guess I’m finding it hard to believe that he just couldn’t help himself but to harass the women in this movie. Like just couldn’t help himself but ogle and say inappropriate things seemingly out of nowhere. And I’m not talking about social awkwardness or inappropriateness. Because one of us could be guilty of making some uncomfortable or not being professional at all times. But to rise to the level of sexual harassment is what we’re talking about here. That’s what she set out to prove.

But not only that, I feel like Blake had a fairly flimsy case since in order to bolster it, she had to point out a lot of other inappropriate behavior. To me that undermines her case. So Jamie Heath, the film’s finance officer, the guy that played the OB/GYN, Justin, they all made her uncomfortable? What did the two female A.D.’s that she fired do, did they also ogle her?

Maybe it would be easier if she started listing people on this set that didn’t harass her.

It just feels like this was laid out and they knew that they didn’t really have a case, but Justin alone without a history of any inappropriate behavior would be a hard target so they needed to bolster things and they were digging around for anything, a breast-feeding incident, a time when he overshared, a missed meeting with the IC, the awkwardness of the lift scene that they didn’t even film but was rehearsed with a stunt double, dancing too close or him having to switch quickly from Ryle to director, anything that made uncomfortable. But I don’t think discomfort should be the basis of a sexual harassment claim of this nature. I’m just really surprised they let it get this far. I really think that they thought it would stop once. Justin read that ridiculous statement that they wrote for him.

And it seems like at every turn, the move is just to double down and go harder. This amended claim is an absolute joke. Many things rehashed without context. Many things completely unrelated to this case just trying to build a narrative, which I understand. But in a court of law, it’s not going to hold up.