Montgomery County zoning: Council wants to change zoning throughout the county to multi-family

[Anonymous]

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Says the hypocritical poster who doesn’t live anywhere near Wheaton and sends her kids to private school.

Things you don't know about the PP:

1. Where the PP lives
2. The PP's gender
3. Whether the PP has children
4. Whether the PP's children (if any) are school-age
5. Where the PP's school-aged children (if any) go to school.

On the Internet, nobody knows you're a dog - right?

I know because I do live in one of these neighborhoods and all of my neighbors disapprove. Anyone who lives in these conditions does not enjoy it.

We would prefer that there is better enforcement of housing code laws. And better enforcement of parking laws. But, because Montgomery County is a Sanctuary county, officials are explicitly told that they cannot discuss immigration status with residents. Which means, that it becomes impossible to prove who is and isn’t related when there are 15 people crammed into a home. Which means there can be no enforcement.

I can guarantee that all the PPs supporting illegal immigration do not send their kids to schools with illegal immigration because I see what that has done to our ES/MS/HS in the past decade.

The PPs who support illegal immigration are likely business owners who get an endless supply of non-unionized, cheap labor. Or who like having illegal immigrants available for childcare/landscaping/housekeeping services.

[Anonymous]

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By the way, have you seen the posters who DO live in these proposed shanty neighborhoods? They are objecting.

Fortunately, nobody is proposing "shanty neighborhoods."

That's what they'll become. Slum landlords will throw up inferior "units" and rent them to single men unable to afford a low-rent apartment. Oh joy.

[Anonymous]

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By the way, have you seen the posters who DO live in these proposed shanty neighborhoods? They are objecting.

Fortunately, nobody is proposing "shanty neighborhoods."

Unfortunately, that is exactly how some neighborhoods look in Wheaton, some parts of Silver Spring, Aspen Hill, etc.

Drive away from your leafy Chevy Chase Or Potomac enclave and see how the rest of the County lives.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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By the way, have you seen the posters who DO live in these proposed shanty neighborhoods? They are objecting.

Fortunately, nobody is proposing "shanty neighborhoods."

That's what they'll become. Slum landlords will throw up inferior "units" and rent them to single men unable to afford a low-rent apartment. Oh joy.

This is what they have become already.

The slum landlord on our street has a property that is a disaster. 6 vehicles, including three large commercial vehicles parked there nightly. 13 people living in the house illegally. Trash everywhere. Trash day is insane because the house is easily over the 5 bag max. Lawn is rarely mowed.

Our neighborhood park used to be family friendly, but definitely no more. People of all races have complained about this.

You can drive down our street and easily tell which ones are illegal rentals.

[Anonymous]

I think this is why the house next to my family's property in Wheaton has been on the market for 9 months, and can't sell. It is a 5-bedroom, 4-bathroom house with an elaborate deck and 2.5 car garage - and it sits on 1/2 an acre. They can't even get $500k for it. They're dropping the price, month after month.

The other problem is that the high school is a 3, with half the school on ESOL. NOBODY with school-age children wants to buy here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
By the way, have you seen the posters who DO live in these proposed shanty neighborhoods? They are objecting.

Fortunately, nobody is proposing "shanty neighborhoods."

That's what they'll become. Slum landlords will throw up inferior "units" and rent them to single men unable to afford a low-rent apartment. Oh joy.

This is what they have become already.

The slum landlord on our street has a property that is a disaster. 6 vehicles, including three large commercial vehicles parked there nightly. 13 people living in the house illegally. Trash everywhere. Trash day is insane because the house is easily over the 5 bag max. Lawn is rarely mowed.

Our neighborhood park used to be family friendly, but definitely no more. People of all races have complained about this.

You can drive down our street and easily tell which ones are illegal rentals.

I wonder if you live in my family's neighborhood. It's such a shame. it used to be such a nice place to raise a family.

[Anonymous]

When does the "backyard shacks for illegals" law go into effect?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
By the way, have you seen the posters who DO live in these proposed shanty neighborhoods? They are objecting.

Fortunately, nobody is proposing "shanty neighborhoods."

That's what they'll become. Slum landlords will throw up inferior "units" and rent them to single men unable to afford a low-rent apartment. Oh joy.

This is what they have become already.

The slum landlord on our street has a property that is a disaster. 6 vehicles, including three large commercial vehicles parked there nightly. 13 people living in the house illegally. Trash everywhere. Trash day is insane because the house is easily over the 5 bag max. Lawn is rarely mowed.

Our neighborhood park used to be family friendly, but definitely no more. People of all races have complained about this.

You can drive down our street and easily tell which ones are illegal rentals.

I wonder if you live in my family's neighborhood. It's such a shame. it used to be such a nice place to raise a family.

People still are raising families there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:When does the "backyard shacks for illegals" law go into effect?

Never, because there isn't one.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
By the way, have you seen the posters who DO live in these proposed shanty neighborhoods? They are objecting.

Fortunately, nobody is proposing "shanty neighborhoods."

That's what they'll become. Slum landlords will throw up inferior "units" and rent them to single men unable to afford a low-rent apartment. Oh joy.

This is what they have become already.

The slum landlord on our street has a property that is a disaster. 6 vehicles, including three large commercial vehicles parked there nightly. 13 people living in the house illegally. Trash everywhere. Trash day is insane because the house is easily over the 5 bag max. Lawn is rarely mowed.

Our neighborhood park used to be family friendly, but definitely no more. People of all races have complained about this.

You can drive down our street and easily tell which ones are illegal rentals.

I wonder if you live in my family's neighborhood. It's such a shame. it used to be such a nice place to raise a family.

People still are raising families there.

Not really. Many of them are rented out to multiple day laborers. Often single men who may have kids, but whose kids certainly don’t live there. Business owners buy the homes and pack in multiple unrelated Day laborers, and park the company vehicles in the driveway as a way to save money.

The men living there certainly don’t care about the property. They don’t care about the neighborhood. They don’t care about the schools.

The landlords accept cash only rent for the rooms and make a good amount of tax free income off of them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
By the way, have you seen the posters who DO live in these proposed shanty neighborhoods? They are objecting.

Fortunately, nobody is proposing "shanty neighborhoods."

That's what they'll become. Slum landlords will throw up inferior "units" and rent them to single men unable to afford a low-rent apartment. Oh joy.

This is what they have become already.

The slum landlord on our street has a property that is a disaster. 6 vehicles, including three large commercial vehicles parked there nightly. 13 people living in the house illegally. Trash everywhere. Trash day is insane because the house is easily over the 5 bag max. Lawn is rarely mowed.

Our neighborhood park used to be family friendly, but definitely no more. People of all races have complained about this.

You can drive down our street and easily tell which ones are illegal rentals.

I wonder if you live in my family's neighborhood. It's such a shame. it used to be such a nice place to raise a family.

It’s definitely unfortunate and a huge detriment to the middle class. Ours used to be a middle class neighborhood with fed families or teachers or police officers, etc. Ours was a solid neighborhood with homes for under 500K with decent schools. Not a W cluster, but good enough.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
By the way, have you seen the posters who DO live in these proposed shanty neighborhoods? They are objecting.

Fortunately, nobody is proposing "shanty neighborhoods."

That's what they'll become. Slum landlords will throw up inferior "units" and rent them to single men unable to afford a low-rent apartment. Oh joy.

This is what they have become already.

The slum landlord on our street has a property that is a disaster. 6 vehicles, including three large commercial vehicles parked there nightly. 13 people living in the house illegally. Trash everywhere. Trash day is insane because the house is easily over the 5 bag max. Lawn is rarely mowed.

Our neighborhood park used to be family friendly, but definitely no more. People of all races have complained about this.

You can drive down our street and easily tell which ones are illegal rentals.

I wonder if you live in my family's neighborhood. It's such a shame. it used to be such a nice place to raise a family.

People still are raising families there.

Not really. Many of them are rented out to multiple day laborers. Often single men who may have kids, but whose kids certainly don’t live there. Business owners buy the homes and pack in multiple unrelated Day laborers, and park the company vehicles in the driveway as a way to save money.

The men living there certainly don’t care about the property. They don’t care about the neighborhood. They don’t care about the schools.

The landlords accept cash only rent for the rooms and make a good amount of tax free income off of them.

The kids in the schools are living somewhere.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When does the "backyard shacks for illegals" law go into effect?

Never, because there isn't one.

In Bethesda and Takoma Park. Every where else in MoCo it will.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
By the way, have you seen the posters who DO live in these proposed shanty neighborhoods? They are objecting.

Fortunately, nobody is proposing "shanty neighborhoods."

That's what they'll become. Slum landlords will throw up inferior "units" and rent them to single men unable to afford a low-rent apartment. Oh joy.

This is what they have become already.

The slum landlord on our street has a property that is a disaster. 6 vehicles, including three large commercial vehicles parked there nightly. 13 people living in the house illegally. Trash everywhere. Trash day is insane because the house is easily over the 5 bag max. Lawn is rarely mowed.

Our neighborhood park used to be family friendly, but definitely no more. People of all races have complained about this.

You can drive down our street and easily tell which ones are illegal rentals.

I wonder if you live in my family's neighborhood. It's such a shame. it used to be such a nice place to raise a family.

People still are raising families there.

Not really. Many of them are rented out to multiple day laborers. Often single men who may have kids, but whose kids certainly don’t live there. Business owners buy the homes and pack in multiple unrelated Day laborers, and park the company vehicles in the driveway as a way to save money.

The men living there certainly don’t care about the property. They don’t care about the neighborhood. They don’t care about the schools.

The landlords accept cash only rent for the rooms and make a good amount of tax free income off of them.

The kids in the schools are living somewhere.

At our ES, most of the lower-income, EDOL kids live in several apartment complexes. The families who have kids actually seem to choose apartment complexes. The people living in the illegal backyard apartments/illegal boarding houses tend to be single men.

[Anonymous]

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