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I'm not that PP. But I think "fathoming" is creative and funny. Your insistence that she must be Pakistani, and that saying "fathoming", proves this is way off the mark. It takes a bright person (of any origin) to know how to break the rules that way. You're not bright enough to understand that. |
Also, if someone has never actually purchased Koo-Aid and knows it only from the phrase "drinking the Kool-Aid," one would naturally spell it as Cool-Aid. Does not mark someone as Pakistani. |
Yes, my dear. In your little provincial mind, the world consists of two kinds of people: Americans and desis. The rest of the planet...nah, they MUST be American or desis. I enjoy watching you make a fool of yourself..over and over again.
Au contraire, my little under-educated darling, who still translates "la ikraha fid'din" as "no compulsion in Islam" - no, silly, it's "no compulsion in religion." Go study up on your Quranic Arabic. I am in an exceptionally good, totally win-win position. If my children turn out to be good Muslims, you know perfectly well that there is no person more privileged in the Muslim culture than the mother of good Muslim sons. That's why all of you ladies are so obsessed with producing boys. If my sons turn out to be good Muslims, they will naturally worship me, as they are being raised to do, and I will enjoy lording over their families, as any good mother of Muslim sons. And if they turn out to be bad Muslims, oh well, no skin off MY lily-white back. And my husband? Anyone married to me will die a happy man. Plus you know, silently and quietly is kinda the same thing. If you fancied yourself a good writer, you may want to look into your bad adjective habit. Same with the agreement in numbers: "if your children turn out to be bad Muslim" - what, all of them will turn into one person?
I know, in your little, provincial, dawwah-obsessed mind, marrying a Muslim=converting. I expect nothing less from the honorary graduate of the Bin Baz academy. This planet is just one big halaqa for you. You must be utterly unfamiliar with the world of content, educated kaffirahs married to Muslim men. But of course you would be, wouldn't you. .
We did address this, didn't we? The world consists of two kinds of people: Americans and Pakistanis. Everyone else? Like that father in the Big Fat Greek Wedding said, the rest just wish they were American or Pakistani. |
That's because you don't own any dictionaries. Here's a book called "Fathoming the Ocean: The Discovery and Exploration of the Deep Sea". http://www.amazon.com/Fathoming-Ocean-Discovery-Exploration-Deep/dp/0674027566 Here's another: "Fathoming the Cosmos and Ordering the World: The Yijing (I Ching, or Classic of Changes) and Its Evolution in China (Richard Lectures)" http://www.amazon.com/Fathoming-Cosmos-Ordering-World-Evolution/dp/0813927056 And another: Fathoming the Holocaust: A Social Problems Approach (Social Problems and Social Issues) http://www.amazon.com/Fathoming-Holocaust-Social-Problems-Approach/dp/0202306704/ref=sr_1_6?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1417536799&sr=1-6&keywords=fathoming And another: Fathoming Bethlehem: Advent Meditations http://www.amazon.com/Fathoming-Bethlehem-Meditations-Robert-Morneau/dp/0824516893/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1417536799&sr=1-1&keywords=fathoming And another: It's a Dad Thing: Fathoming the Phenomenon of Fatherhood http://www.amazon.com/Its-Dad-Thing-Phenomenon-Fatherhood/dp/1607554550/ref=sr_1_16?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1417536922&sr=1-16&keywords=fathoming And another: Fathoming Women and Other Stories http://www.amazon.com/Fathoming-Women-stories-Margaret-Norris/dp/1849239266/ref=sr_1_30?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1417537001&sr=1-30&keywords=fathoming Maybe it's not just your Quranic Arabic that needs a refresher. Just a thought. Never mind, though, I will try to use shorter words next time. I see that anything over five letters in length is giving you migraines. |
Different poster here. It's called a present participle.
When you take a verb like "to fathom" and you add -ing, you get - a present participle (basically, a sort of present tense), which is how PP is using it, or - a gerund (a noun acting like it's a verb), as in "fathoming your intent is hard."). In either case, it's totally legit to say "fathoming". |
OP- Since you keep assuming that the non-muslim married to a muslim pp is someone from a minority faith in a majority Muslim country, I have to ask- Why would those of a minority faith in a majority Muslim country have some sort of angst or "islamaphobia" towards Muslims?
I am a minority faith in America, I have no angst or "Christianity-phobia". You keep saying she must have some negative experience living in as a minority faith in Muslim country- can you expound on what some of those negative experiences would be and why? Since there is "no compulsion" in Islam and it is a peaceful religion, why would the minority faiths feel so threatened? What could the peace loving Muslims possibly do to harm them? Also, still wondering if you also have great respect for those from non-Abrahamic religions? Looking forward to your answer. |
QUESTION
Islam has certain rules of physcial modesty for women, for covering up, once they are a certain age. Some muslim women cover more than others. Does Islams have any modesty rule like for males at all? Or would (hypotheticlly, of course) females be free to see males nude and the men would not technically be in violation of any muslim law? Thanks in advance for your answer. |
Modesty is required in Islam for both men and women. It is not solely about the way they dress but modesty in action and character as well. Both are also asked to lower their gaze. The Prophet, peace be upon him said: ‘Every religion has a character, and the character of Islam is modesty.’ |
why do women have to dress a certain way but men have no similar restriction? |
Men also have a dress code |
Both are also asked to lower their gaze. .’
Well, lowering one's gaze could be to catch a look at something showing. |
Well, lowering one's gaze could be to catch a look at something showing. You know that's not the intention. Women are asked to dress modestly, men are asked not to stare. |
And for men, it's not just about lowering the gaze, like i said they also have a dress code. Yes, they do not have to wear a scarf, because obviously the male and female bodies are different and males/females react differently to it. The porn industry doesn't exist because men get aroused by intelligence and emotional connection ,and there is a reason advertisers use slender young attractive females on ads and not fat frumpy women, really! Moving on....
Quran: "O children of Adam, We have bestowed upon you clothing to conceal your private parts and as adornment. But the clothing of righteousness - that is best. That is from the signs of Allah that perhaps they will remember"-[7:26] Now as far as the man's dress code, for the man, the 'awrah is defined as the area between the navel and the knees. ( Awrah is an islamic term that denotes the intimate parts of a man/woman). Men & women have different awrahs. Within the definition of 'awrah for men and women, all the four basic requirements are essentially the same:
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don't you think you missed a few bits? |
You know that's not the intention. Women are asked to dress modestly, men are asked not to stare. If the man's gaze is lowered, plus covering the private parts, shouldn't that be enough? Why does the woman have to cover her hair, too, if men aren't supposed to be looking at it anyway? |