H1b visas. Anyone else work in technology and see the issues with this program and outsourcing?

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The H-1B visa dream is now turning into a MENTAL HEALTH NIGHTMARE for many Indian tech workers in America. From constant visa uncertainty and layoff fears to Green Card backlogs and job pressure, thousands of highly skilled Indians in the U.S. say they are living under nonstop stress and anxiety.





Stop the trolling. Just say you don’t like Indians and call it a day.


What? Isn’t this sympathetic?

I’ll say that US college grads also face tremendous uncertainty and crushing debt. They are not having children
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The H-1B visa dream is now turning into a MENTAL HEALTH NIGHTMARE for many Indian tech workers in America. From constant visa uncertainty and layoff fears to Green Card backlogs and job pressure, thousands of highly skilled Indians in the U.S. say they are living under nonstop stress and anxiety.





Stop the trolling. Just say you don’t like Indians and call it a day.


What? Isn’t this sympathetic?

I’ll say that US college grads also face tremendous uncertainty and crushing debt. They are not having children


I suspect that your passionate “concern” about the job prospects of US college grads has more to do with your anti-Indian bias than with sympathy for American youth.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The H-1B visa dream is now turning into a MENTAL HEALTH NIGHTMARE for many Indian tech workers in America. From constant visa uncertainty and layoff fears to Green Card backlogs and job pressure, thousands of highly skilled Indians in the U.S. say they are living under nonstop stress and anxiety.





Stop the trolling. Just say you don’t like Indians and call it a day.


What? Isn’t this sympathetic?

I’ll say that US college grads also face tremendous uncertainty and crushing debt. They are not having children


I suspect that your passionate “concern” about the job prospects of US college grads has more to do with your anti-Indian bias than with sympathy for American youth.


I wasn’t the prior poster fwiw but no, I have no problem with Indians whatsoever at all. Nice try though trollina
Anonymous
American youth, including Indian-American youth should be a priority, not H1b youth.
Anonymous
If we can fund wars on behalf of another country then we sure can fund free education and training for American youth to be able to handle these jobs.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:If we can fund wars on behalf of another country then we sure can fund free education and training for American youth to be able to handle these jobs.


MAGA Mike is busy here with his agenda and needs a boogeyman. Also, he says it’s patriotic to pay more for gas and goods. White men are ready to work the fields and be tech engineers and rural health care doctors.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The H-1B visa dream is now turning into a MENTAL HEALTH NIGHTMARE for many Indian tech workers in America. From constant visa uncertainty and layoff fears to Green Card backlogs and job pressure, thousands of highly skilled Indians in the U.S. say they are living under nonstop stress and anxiety.





Stop the trolling. Just say you don’t like Indians and call it a day.


What? Isn’t this sympathetic?

I’ll say that US college grads also face tremendous uncertainty and crushing debt. They are not having children


I suspect that your passionate “concern” about the job prospects of US college grads has more to do with your anti-Indian bias than with sympathy for American youth.


I wasn’t the prior poster fwiw but no, I have no problem with Indians whatsoever at all. Nice try though trollina


It amazes me how many posters go along with trolls like that as if they have no idea how bad it sounds.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The H-1B visa dream is now turning into a MENTAL HEALTH NIGHTMARE for many Indian tech workers in America. From constant visa uncertainty and layoff fears to Green Card backlogs and job pressure, thousands of highly skilled Indians in the U.S. say they are living under nonstop stress and anxiety.





Stop the trolling. Just say you don’t like Indians and call it a day.


What? Isn’t this sympathetic?

I’ll say that US college grads also face tremendous uncertainty and crushing debt. They are not having children


I suspect that your passionate “concern” about the job prospects of US college grads has more to do with your anti-Indian bias than with sympathy for American youth.


Bad faith argument with zero grounding in the facts presented. The problem is H1B was sold as bringing in "skills" but has been patently abused for decades for things as unskilled as 7-11 cashiers. The race of those abusing the system is not relevant to the fact the abuse persists. Indeed, companies have taken to dishonestly listing adds in random newspapers and not making applications easily searchable to continue the fraud.

Your attempts to shame people for noticing no longer work. The facts are in the open now.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I’ve tried to explain it to my friends - it really is damaging to US workers - and they all think I’m xenophobic.

Pretty much every major US company spends tons and tons on technology- more than the average person probably realizes because it’s not obvious how complicated back end tech stacks have become- and most of those people (often through foreign companies with a small US footprint) are offshore around the world with a small US based team that is often 50%+ foreign too because of h1b visas. I see it every day, and I see how carefully companies set things up so the extent of it is not obvious.

I am not anti immigrant. But when I hear of US kids spending 400k on college degrees and then struggling to find work, it bothers me.

Companies do not train people, there seems to be zero incentive. Why?


Many countries have highly skilled migrant visas to hire CS jobs, doctors, and nurses.

What about it?

Some family that spent $400k on their kid’s gender studies degree isn’t competing for those jobs.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The H-1B visa dream is now turning into a MENTAL HEALTH NIGHTMARE for many Indian tech workers in America. From constant visa uncertainty and layoff fears to Green Card backlogs and job pressure, thousands of highly skilled Indians in the U.S. say they are living under nonstop stress and anxiety.





Stop the trolling. Just say you don’t like Indians and call it a day.


What? Isn’t this sympathetic?

I’ll say that US college grads also face tremendous uncertainty and crushing debt. They are not having children


I suspect that your passionate “concern” about the job prospects of US college grads has more to do with your anti-Indian bias than with sympathy for American youth.


Bad faith argument with zero grounding in the facts presented. The problem is H1B was sold as bringing in "skills" but has been patently abused for decades for things as unskilled as 7-11 cashiers. The race of those abusing the system is not relevant to the fact the abuse persists. Indeed, companies have taken to dishonestly listing adds in random newspapers and not making applications easily searchable to continue the fraud.

Your attempts to shame people for noticing no longer work. The facts are in the open now.


7-11 cashiers are not here on an H1.B.

They’re probably family sponsored or overstayed their visa/ here illegally working under the table until they marry an American ethnic person.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The H-1B visa dream is now turning into a MENTAL HEALTH NIGHTMARE for many Indian tech workers in America. From constant visa uncertainty and layoff fears to Green Card backlogs and job pressure, thousands of highly skilled Indians in the U.S. say they are living under nonstop stress and anxiety.





Stop the trolling. Just say you don’t like Indians and call it a day.


What? Isn’t this sympathetic?

I’ll say that US college grads also face tremendous uncertainty and crushing debt. They are not having children


I suspect that your passionate “concern” about the job prospects of US college grads has more to do with your anti-Indian bias than with sympathy for American youth.


Bad faith argument with zero grounding in the facts presented. The problem is H1B was sold as bringing in "skills" but has been patently abused for decades for things as unskilled as 7-11 cashiers. The race of those abusing the system is not relevant to the fact the abuse persists. Indeed, companies have taken to dishonestly listing adds in random newspapers and not making applications easily searchable to continue the fraud.

Your attempts to shame people for noticing no longer work. The facts are in the open now.


7-11 cashiers are not here on an H1.B.

They’re probably family sponsored or overstayed their visa/ here illegally working under the table until they marry an American ethnic person.


You're right, they just do it for basic software jobs when there are thousands of qualified Americans. 7-11 corporate officers should go to jail, along with many others, for defrauding Americans!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’ve tried to explain it to my friends - it really is damaging to US workers - and they all think I’m xenophobic.

Pretty much every major US company spends tons and tons on technology- more than the average person probably realizes because it’s not obvious how complicated back end tech stacks have become- and most of those people (often through foreign companies with a small US footprint) are offshore around the world with a small US based team that is often 50%+ foreign too because of h1b visas. I see it every day, and I see how carefully companies set things up so the extent of it is not obvious.

I am not anti immigrant. But when I hear of US kids spending 400k on college degrees and then struggling to find work, it bothers me.

Companies do not train people, there seems to be zero incentive. Why?


Many countries have highly skilled migrant visas to hire CS jobs, doctors, and nurses.

What about it?

Some family that spent $400k on their kid’s gender studies degree isn’t competing for those jobs.


Oh, so you think we have gender studies degree. Is that what the H-1B's teach us? Maybe we don't need the H-1b professors after all.
Anonymous
Not sure why we're 28 pages in to a topic that seems moot at this point in time. The GOP controls all branches of government and the Trump admin has made it a point of curtailing the H-1B visa program.

Recent policy changes include imposing a $100,000 fee for new H-1B petitions; getting rid of the random lottery in favor of prioritizing high-wage/high-skill applications; and promoting a Hire American approach.

So what's the problem, MAGA troll(s)?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Not sure why we're 28 pages in to a topic that seems moot at this point in time. The GOP controls all branches of government and the Trump admin has made it a point of curtailing the H-1B visa program.

Recent policy changes include imposing a $100,000 fee for new H-1B petitions; getting rid of the random lottery in favor of prioritizing high-wage/high-skill applications; and promoting a Hire American approach.

So what's the problem, MAGA troll(s)?


Democrats have been moot on the subject for a long time, Biden barely mentioned any policy on the issue while debating. They refuse to acknowledge their political debt on the issue or take any action to correct course.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Not sure why we're 28 pages in to a topic that seems moot at this point in time. The GOP controls all branches of government and the Trump admin has made it a point of curtailing the H-1B visa program.

Recent policy changes include imposing a $100,000 fee for new H-1B petitions; getting rid of the random lottery in favor of prioritizing high-wage/high-skill applications; and promoting a Hire American approach.

So what's the problem, MAGA troll(s)?


The problem is Trump is way too soft on the issue.
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