Potomac Yard (Alexandria) HOA — Issues?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Lost the 7th grade student council race’? That’s the best you’ve got? Listen, the people on HOA boards are the only ones with the courage to actually take responsibility.

You? You sit in the cheap seats throwing insults because the idea of accountability terrifies you. So keep giggling about your 7th grade joke—adults are handling the real work while you hide behind your phone.

Oh, OK. Who are you?

I’m Ungaraged.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Lost the 7th grade student council race’? That’s the best you’ve got? Listen, the people on HOA boards are the only ones with the courage to actually take responsibility.

You? You sit in the cheap seats throwing insults because the idea of accountability terrifies you. So keep giggling about your 7th grade joke—adults are handling the real work while you hide behind your phone.

Oh, OK. Who are you?

I’m Ungaraged.

Also known as a freeloader.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Lost the 7th grade student council race’? That’s the best you’ve got? Listen, the people on HOA boards are the only ones with the courage to actually take responsibility.

You? You sit in the cheap seats throwing insults because the idea of accountability terrifies you. So keep giggling about your 7th grade joke—adults are handling the real work while you hide behind your phone.

Why? I get to the parking spot first. Nobody reserves them for me.

Oh, OK. Who are you?

I’m Ungaraged.

Also known as a freeloader.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Lost the 7th grade student council race’? That’s the best you’ve got? Listen, the people on HOA boards are the only ones with the courage to actually take responsibility.

You? You sit in the cheap seats throwing insults because the idea of accountability terrifies you. So keep giggling about your 7th grade joke—adults are handling the real work while you hide behind your phone.

Why?

Oh, OK. Who are you?

I’m Ungaraged.

Also known as a freeloader.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Lost the 7th grade student council race’? That’s the best you’ve got? Listen, the people on HOA boards are the only ones with the courage to actually take responsibility.

You? You sit in the cheap seats throwing insults because the idea of accountability terrifies you. So keep giggling about your 7th grade joke—adults are handling the real work while you hide behind your phone.

Oh, OK. Who are you?

I’m Ungaraged.

Also known as a freeloader.

Why?

[Anonymous]

https://www.vahoalaw.com/board-member-responsibilities/can-board-of-directors-assign-parking-spaces-in-common-areas

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:https://www.vahoalaw.com/board-member-responsibilities/can-board-of-directors-assign-parking-spaces-in-common-areas

Towing could be the next lawsuit filed against the Potomac Yard HOA. Towing must be authorized in the Declaration. Penalties for violating a rule on a common area are 100% monetary.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why don't they just have the 'common' area spots be common again and not numbered? With reasonable restrictions like contractor vehicles, abandoned vehicles, vehicles have to be in active rotation, and maybe a special pass system for moving. I realize as I type this how administrative that is and pretty ridiculous but I have strong feelings about what's "right" and the current state does not seem right based on the little I have read.

Why not just leave it alone? It’s been like this for years and years, and everything was fine until the HOA Joan of Arc started suing.

Just because something illegal has been done for years does not at some point make it legal. Wrong is wrong, no matter when the wrong comes to light or when someone finally speaks up about it. It's unfornate it will take yet another court battle about HOA assigned parking spots in common areas to fix this problem. The only ones really benefiting from this are the lawyers.

What is the point of having a board if they do not correct matters such as this?

It exists for people that lost the 7th grade student council race.

So the latest armchair political scientist over here thinks HOA boards are just a retirement home for people who lost the 7th grade student council race. Right. The reality? Those ‘losers’ are the ones actually dealing with budgets, contractors, insurance, covenants, and the bizarre legal universe of property law—while you sit on social media and write zingers that sound like they were workshopped at a middle school lunch table. It’s easy to mock governance when you’ve never had to seriously do it, never carefully read a budget, and never really been the one on the hook for fixing the mess when the roof caves in. But sure—keep telling yourself the HOA is just junior high drama club for adults. That way you never have to face the fact that some people are willing to do the hard, thankless work you can’t be bothered with.

The HOA boards hire property managers to do all of this work and then they take the credit. If they really cared about community governance and doing it right, they would not try to control who is allowed to sit on the HOA board with slander campaigns against members who don't think like them. And if they are doing all this good, important work themselves, why do they spend so much time citing and fining their own neighbors for transgressions such as cobwebs and scuff marks? HOA boards often are comprised of sad power-hungry authoritarian-minded leaders and a handful of followers. Look up the case law and articles written about those HOAs. Same story over and over. Here's another one from Shadowood Condo - this condo president sounds like a real nut job: https://condomadness.info/USA-Shadowood1.html

[Anonymous]

This is getting clearer and clearer. The lunatic with the IP checker is going to inadvertently out himself. He just can't control himself. LOL.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is getting clearer and clearer. The lunatic with the IP checker is going to inadvertently out himself. He just can't control himself. LOL.

I am certain there are more residents than Frank who do not want to be neighbors with someone who prevents them from using a common area. It appears that people like myself are posting on this thread.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why don't they just have the 'common' area spots be common again and not numbered? With reasonable restrictions like contractor vehicles, abandoned vehicles, vehicles have to be in active rotation, and maybe a special pass system for moving. I realize as I type this how administrative that is and pretty ridiculous but I have strong feelings about what's "right" and the current state does not seem right based on the little I have read.

Why not just leave it alone? It’s been like this for years and years, and everything was fine until the HOA Joan of Arc started suing.

Just because something illegal has been done for years does not at some point make it legal. Wrong is wrong, no matter when the wrong comes to light or when someone finally speaks up about it. It's unfornate it will take yet another court battle about HOA assigned parking spots in common areas to fix this problem. The only ones really benefiting from this are the lawyers.

What is the point of having a board if they do not correct matters such as this?

It exists for people that lost the 7th grade student council race.

So the latest armchair political scientist over here thinks HOA boards are just a retirement home for people who lost the 7th grade student council race. Right. The reality? Those ‘losers’ are the ones actually dealing with budgets, contractors, insurance, covenants, and the bizarre legal universe of property law—while you sit on social media and write zingers that sound like they were workshopped at a middle school lunch table. It’s easy to mock governance when you’ve never had to seriously do it, never carefully read a budget, and never really been the one on the hook for fixing the mess when the roof caves in. But sure—keep telling yourself the HOA is just junior high drama club for adults. That way you never have to face the fact that some people are willing to do the hard, thankless work you can’t be bothered with.

The HOA boards hire property managers to do all of this work and then they take the credit. If they really cared about community governance and doing it right, they would not try to control who is allowed to sit on the HOA board with slander campaigns against members who don't think like them. And if they are doing all this good, important work themselves, why do they spend so much time citing and fining their own neighbors for transgressions such as cobwebs and scuff marks? HOA boards often are comprised of sad power-hungry authoritarian-minded leaders and a handful of followers. Look up the case law and articles written about those HOAs. Same story over and over. Here's another one from Shadowood Condo - this condo president sounds like a real nut job: https://condomadness.info/USA-Shadowood1.html

I agree that the board does no work. Their hobbies appear to be wasting other people's money and regulating neighbors they dislike with rules they can't enforce. However, this post takes the HOA board to a different level of aggrandizement.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why don't they just have the 'common' area spots be common again and not numbered? With reasonable restrictions like contractor vehicles, abandoned vehicles, vehicles have to be in active rotation, and maybe a special pass system for moving. I realize as I type this how administrative that is and pretty ridiculous but I have strong feelings about what's "right" and the current state does not seem right based on the little I have read.

Why not just leave it alone? It’s been like this for years and years, and everything was fine until the HOA Joan of Arc started suing.

Just because something illegal has been done for years does not at some point make it legal. Wrong is wrong, no matter when the wrong comes to light or when someone finally speaks up about it. It's unfornate it will take yet another court battle about HOA assigned parking spots in common areas to fix this problem. The only ones really benefiting from this are the lawyers.

I

What is the point of having a board if they do not correct matters such as this?

It exists for people that lost the 7th grade student council race.

So the latest armchair political scientist over here thinks HOA boards are just a retirement home for people who lost the 7th grade student council race. Right. The reality? Those ‘losers’ are the ones actually dealing with budgets, contractors, insurance, covenants, and the bizarre legal universe of property law—while you sit on social media and write zingers that sound like they were workshopped at a middle school lunch table. It’s easy to mock governance when you’ve never had to seriously do it, never carefully read a budget, and never really been the one on the hook for fixing the mess when the roof caves in. But sure—keep telling yourself the HOA is just junior high drama club for adults. That way you never have to face the fact that some people are willing to do the hard, thankless work you can’t be bothered with.

I appreciate your perspective. It's best to ignore the poster slinging childish insults right and left. I've been active on my hoa board and it is fraught. So many decisions have no easy answer and vitriol is constantly flung at board memmbers. I respect the hard work this board is doing but it seems that they are make decisions without following proper protocol and do not correct their poor decisions.

[Anonymous]

It appears that another board member is on the city's affordable housing committee. I am concerned that her lack of action in Potomac Yard will make that HOA more unaffordable and not a good fit for residents who qualify for affordable housing. Quite the advocate she is.


https://www.alexandriava.gov/sites/default/files/2024-03/ahaacpacket_april2024_0.pdf

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why don't they just have the 'common' area spots be common again and not numbered? With reasonable restrictions like contractor vehicles, abandoned vehicles, vehicles have to be in active rotation, and maybe a special pass system for moving. I realize as I type this how administrative that is and pretty ridiculous but I have strong feelings about what's "right" and the current state does not seem right based on the little I have read.

Why not just leave it alone? It’s been like this for years and years, and everything was fine until the HOA Joan of Arc started suing.

Just because something illegal has been done for years does not at some point make it legal. Wrong is wrong, no matter when the wrong comes to light or when someone finally speaks up about it. It's unfornate it will take yet another court battle about HOA assigned parking spots in common areas to fix this problem. The only ones really benefiting from this are the lawyers.

I

What is the point of having a board if they do not correct matters such as this?

It exists for people that lost the 7th grade student council race.

So the latest armchair political scientist over here thinks HOA boards are just a retirement home for people who lost the 7th grade student council race. Right. The reality? Those ‘losers’ are the ones actually dealing with budgets, contractors, insurance, covenants, and the bizarre legal universe of property law—while you sit on social media and write zingers that sound like they were workshopped at a middle school lunch table. It’s easy to mock governance when you’ve never had to seriously do it, never carefully read a budget, and never really been the one on the hook for fixing the mess when the roof caves in. But sure—keep telling yourself the HOA is just junior high drama club for adults. That way you never have to face the fact that some people are willing to do the hard, thankless work you can’t be bothered with.

I appreciate your perspective. It's best to ignore the poster slinging childish insults right and left. I've been active on my hoa board and it is fraught. So many decisions have no easy answer and vitriol is constantly flung at board memmbers. I respect the hard work this board is doing but it seems that they are make decisions without following proper protocol and do not correct their poor decisions.

If you were on a board that was told by the city to reserve some common area parking spaces, and your association was governed by this declaration

https://www.pyhoafacts.org/files/Association%20Documents/PYHOA%20Declaration.pdf

which says in legal terms that you're allowed to reserve the spaces, what would you do?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why don't they just have the 'common' area spots be common again and not numbered? With reasonable restrictions like contractor vehicles, abandoned vehicles, vehicles have to be in active rotation, and maybe a special pass system for moving. I realize as I type this how administrative that is and pretty ridiculous but I have strong feelings about what's "right" and the current state does not seem right based on the little I have read.

Why not just leave it alone? It’s been like this for years and years, and everything was fine until the HOA Joan of Arc started suing.

Just because something illegal has been done for years does not at some point make it legal. Wrong is wrong, no matter when the wrong comes to light or when someone finally speaks up about it. It's unfornate it will take yet another court battle about HOA assigned parking spots in common areas to fix this problem. The only ones really benefiting from this are the lawyers.

I

What is the point of having a board if they do not correct matters such as this?

It exists for people that lost the 7th grade student council race.

So the latest armchair political scientist over here thinks HOA boards are just a retirement home for people who lost the 7th grade student council race. Right. The reality? Those ‘losers’ are the ones actually dealing with budgets, contractors, insurance, covenants, and the bizarre legal universe of property law—while you sit on social media and write zingers that sound like they were workshopped at a middle school lunch table. It’s easy to mock governance when you’ve never had to seriously do it, never carefully read a budget, and never really been the one on the hook for fixing the mess when the roof caves in. But sure—keep telling yourself the HOA is just junior high drama club for adults. That way you never have to face the fact that some people are willing to do the hard, thankless work you can’t be bothered with.

I appreciate your perspective. It's best to ignore the poster slinging childish insults right and left. I've been active on my hoa board and it is fraught. So many decisions have no easy answer and vitriol is constantly flung at board memmbers. I respect the hard work this board is doing but it seems that they are make decisions without following proper protocol and do not correct their poor decisions.

If you were on a board that was told by the city to reserve some common area parking spaces, and your association was governed by this declaration

https://www.pyhoafacts.org/files/Association%20Documents/PYHOA%20Declaration.pdf

which says in legal terms that you're allowed to reserve the spaces, what would you do?

Then suggest that the board tell the city to mandate the developer to annex more land and then deed those parking spaces to you. However, I understand that this might be a complex process since what you and this website is purporting is 100% false.