Ruling on MCPS LGBT curriculum case coming this morning

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Anonymous wrote:It's going to be really fun when Jewish kids opt out of the Narnia series, Catholics opt out of Romeo and Juliet (suicide), and on and on.

shrug.. that's their choice. Bunch of Evangelicals didn't want their kids to read Harry Potter.

But, those books are just fantasy. Teaching ES kids about lgbtq is real life and not age appropriate.

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Anonymous wrote:For the parents opting their children out of lessons because those lessons include a same sex couple family, please know that the vast majority of us judge you harshly as a bigot and your kids will likely suffer social consequences because of your intolerance. I feel bad for them, especially those who are themselves gay. Shame on you, you intolerant and insecure people.

The vibe has shifted. I think you’ll be surprised at who is judging who here.

No such thing as a "bigot". This is a fake, made up social construct that liberals made up for people who don't agree with them. Disagreeing with you doesn't make someone an uneducated, narrow minded "bigot". It just means someone doesn't agree wth your social activist agenda.

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Anonymous wrote:Wow! I can’t believe any school system would be so bold to challenge parental rights like this. It’s disgusting behavior and says much about the people you entrust with your children! Very disturbing. Glad you won!

They scream poverty for many things but have plenty of money to fight parents. Mcps doesn’t care about parental rights. I signed the form to not release my kids photos and come first day of school they were all over the news and mcps website. Mcps refused to remove it saying if we sent our kids to school we should expect it. I would not have, had I had known. Taylor himself said too bad. They complain of kids on social media and they are the first to post our kids. Our school still does after I reached to to the principal and teachers asking them not to.

I think you’ve got a solid lawsuit here.

Maybe but its not worth it as MCPS is vindictive to kids, especially admin so I'm not putting my kids in that situation. I am so tired of constantly seeing them on social media. We don't post them online.

Sorry I'm not believing that MCPS is "constantly" posting pictures of your kids on social media.

I believe it, they’re all about doubling down on the grooming behavior. Giving access to little kid pics online is part of what groomers do.

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Anonymous wrote:So when can the taxpayers know how much money was spent on legal fees for this???
Let’s talk about the budget again…

I’m a taxpayer and good with the money spent on sensing a message of support to an extremely marginalized community.

Responses like this are why people note that the school curriculum, particularly at the elementary school years, is about reading, writing, and math. I don’t want money spent on sending a message. Please hire more teachers so kids can get more individualized attention on academics.

And by having teachers have to sort kids by religiousness and teaching multiple tracks is hurting the teachers ability to focus on academics. Why are you guys not getting this? They should just have the opt out kids stay home for anything they find objectionable.

Why are you not getting that MCPS lost a lot more by fighting rather than pulling down these books or allowing opt-outs for the elementary schoolers?

I’m glad MCPS put up a fight. Thank God. What happens next is these same parents want girls and boys to be separated. They want girls to dress “modestly” and taught different subjects because their religious values. They want non Islamists (or fill in blank of religion) to pray every morning to a certain God.

Thank God MCPS was fighting for our constitution and the right of students to learn.

It didn’t work out very well for them, did it?

I’m glad the county fought. As a taxpayer, as a parent, as a person who values education and rejects the continued conflation of public schools and religious dogma, MCPS did what is right.

Soon, we’ll have Sharia law where the only teachings in schools are from X religious book. Girls won’t get an education because, well, they’re girls. Gays will be excluded and persecuted and their children treated like pariahs because clearly books will turn people gay and make people think too much about the human condition [sarcasm alert]

Grateful that the County took a stand. The SCOTUS rejected the constitution today. That doesn’t mean we give up the fight for what lies ahead tomorrow. Can’t believe our country increasingly resembles 1930s Germany / late 1970s Iran. Frightening.

This is why we liberals are the losing end of so many things these days. The majority don’t understand how to strategically win. It’s not by taking a losing, bad facts case to the Supreme Court. All it did was set things back. And continuing to defend it shows incredibly bad judgment.

Are you serious right now? MAGA folks are taking bad facts to the Supreme Court and news everyday. They are literally trying to convince people that a man in bad for NY as mayor simply because he is Muslim. Talking about women should be worried about Sharia Law, as people’s rights are not being stripped right here in the good USA by people claiming to be Christian.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:For the parents opting their children out of lessons because those lessons include a same sex couple family, please know that the vast majority of us judge you harshly as a bigot and your kids will likely suffer social consequences because of your intolerance. I feel bad for them, especially those who are themselves gay. Shame on you, you intolerant and insecure people.

I teach my kids not to care what old lady Karens, or their children, think about them.

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Anonymous wrote:For the parents opting their children out of lessons because those lessons include a same sex couple family, please know that the vast majority of us judge you harshly as a bigot and your kids will likely suffer social consequences because of your intolerance. I feel bad for them, especially those who are themselves gay. Shame on you, you intolerant and insecure people.

The vibe has shifted. I think you’ll be surprised at who is judging who here.

No such thing as a "bigot". This is a fake, made up social construct that liberals made up for people who don't agree with them. Disagreeing with you doesn't make someone an uneducated, narrow minded "bigot". It just means someone doesn't agree wth your social activist agenda.

It always interesting when folks throw out the phrase social activist as though that is a bad thing. They forgot that the founding fathers are social activist, the suffragist are social activist, Abolitionist are social activist, Etc etc. I’m pretty sure social activist consider themselves in good company of people who people and movements that have had transformational change good for humanity.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Parents should not be given authority over educational professionals. Parents should not be allowed to opt their kids out sex Ed or reading assignments.

-teacher and religious person

Truly disgusting people like you should never be hired as teachers.

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Anonymous wrote:For the parents opting their children out of lessons because those lessons include a same sex couple family, please know that the vast majority of us judge you harshly as a bigot and your kids will likely suffer social consequences because of your intolerance. I feel bad for them, especially those who are themselves gay. Shame on you, you intolerant and insecure people.

The vibe has shifted. I think you’ll be surprised at who is judging who here.

No such thing as a "bigot". This is a fake, made up social construct that liberals made up for people who don't agree with them. Disagreeing with you doesn't make someone an uneducated, narrow minded "bigot". It just means someone doesn't agree wth your social activist agenda.

It always interesting when folks throw out the phrase social activist as though that is a bad thing. They forgot that the founding fathers are social activist, the suffragist are social activist, Abolitionist are social activist, Etc etc. I’m pretty sure social activist consider themselves in good company of people who people and movements that have had transformational change good for humanity.

Oh yes the whole founding father’s argument again. Show me where they read pornography to children and didn’t let parents opt out.

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Anonymous wrote:It's going to be really fun when Jewish kids opt out of the Narnia series, Catholics opt out of Romeo and Juliet (suicide), and on and on.

I’m Catholic and would love it if my kids would read Shakespeare. Unfortunately that’s not inclusive because the IQ needed to comprehend it exceeds the IQ of the average MCPS student. So we read it at home instead.

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Anonymous wrote:So when can the taxpayers know how much money was spent on legal fees for this???
Let’s talk about the budget again…

I’m a taxpayer and good with the money spent on sensing a message of support to an extremely marginalized community.

Responses like this are why people note that the school curriculum, particularly at the elementary school years, is about reading, writing, and math. I don’t want money spent on sending a message. Please hire more teachers so kids can get more individualized attention on academics.

And by having teachers have to sort kids by religiousness and teaching multiple tracks is hurting the teachers ability to focus on academics. Why are you guys not getting this? They should just have the opt out kids stay home for anything they find objectionable.

Why are you not getting that MCPS lost a lot more by fighting rather than pulling down these books or allowing opt-outs for the elementary schoolers?

I’m glad MCPS put up a fight. Thank God. What happens next is these same parents want girls and boys to be separated. They want girls to dress “modestly” and taught different subjects because their religious values. They want non Islamists (or fill in blank of religion) to pray every morning to a certain God.

Thank God MCPS was fighting for our constitution and the right of students to learn.

It didn’t work out very well for them, did it?

I’m glad the county fought. As a taxpayer, as a parent, as a person who values education and rejects the continued conflation of public schools and religious dogma, MCPS did what is right.

Soon, we’ll have Sharia law where the only teachings in schools are from X religious book. Girls won’t get an education because, well, they’re girls. Gays will be excluded and persecuted and their children treated like pariahs because clearly books will turn people gay and make people think too much about the human condition [sarcasm alert]

Grateful that the County took a stand. The SCOTUS rejected the constitution today. That doesn’t mean we give up the fight for what lies ahead tomorrow. Can’t believe our country increasingly resembles 1930s Germany / late 1970s Iran. Frightening.

This is why we liberals are the losing end of so many things these days. The majority don’t understand how to strategically win. It’s not by taking a losing, bad facts case to the Supreme Court. All it did was set things back. And continuing to defend it shows incredibly bad judgment.

Yup. Clearly the LGBTQ lobby refuses to learn from its mistakes.

MCPS, BOE, Lynne Harris, and Mink overreached and overplayed their hand. Doubling down on that is not going to help.

Robert E Lee had a few wins too, but in the end… here we are your kids are in class with Black people and you can’t opt out

1. I am Black so your assumption that I am scared of “my kids” going to school with Black people was wrong.

2. The LGBTQ always reached to compare its plight and struggle to Blacks and while there may be SOME parallels, it is not a 1 for 1 so these comparisons are lazy shortcuts that you and your ilk rely on because you struggle to make the case for your arguments

3. You’re ignoring the fact that Lynne Harris was incredibly hostile and racist to the parents who were asking for the opt-out, which included many Black (specifically Ethiopian) families. Many folks within the Black community are uncomfortable with the LGBTQ’s lobbies positions, and in particular, the idea that gender/sex are choices and that there are no biological and fundamental differences between men and women.

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Anonymous wrote:There are 2 genders.

And all those troublesome intersex people, but why let biological reality get in the way of a dumb slogan?

Stating that there are 2 genders used to be an objective, inoffensive fact of life and biology. Trans activists have made it a “slogan.”

Saying the world was flat and black people are slaves with less rights, and stoning people to death use to be fact, the way of life, and unobjectable, does that mean we should never move forward and reach for better? Should we ignore all contrary evidence and never make changes just because some people are scared of the boogeyman?

We use to tell kids the stork delivered the baby, then realized it wasn’t really helpful to tell kids not to lie then lie to them about basic human biology.

Know better do better. The boogeyman isn’t there, the kids will be fine.

DP. Personally I am quite fine with older kids learning about the new religion that has grown in US that teaches that people have gender souls that can change in a baptism of self-awareness which then requires ritualistic body modification. They should learn about religious beliefs and religious mortification practices. Gender ideology isn’t the only religion that demands body mortification as part of its tenets. However, I do not want young kids taught the religious tenets of this neo religion as fact, because of course they are not. It’s no different that the schools that used to teach that Jesus rose from the dead as fact.

I sharply distinguish between LGB and T, although Pride Puppy with its fetish wear pictures was obviously inappropriate and it was ridiculous for the school district to ever argue that they had the right to show kindergarteners pictures of mostly naked men in bondage gear. No parents except highly suspicious extreme liberal parents want that. Very few parents object to books that show a family with two dads or two moms in the background. But, because the school district refused to moderate and inexplicably decided to fight for the right to require all kindergartners to have cartoon pictures of men in fetishwear in their books, here we are. The arrogance of MCPS is astonishing.

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Anonymous wrote:The funny thing is the word homosexual didn’t even appear in the Bible until 1946 because a bunch of dudes wanted to be able to masturbate and they hated that it says you could not masturbate so they changed the word to homosexual.

? source?

It’s not even in the Bible.

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Anonymous wrote:There are 2 genders.

And all those troublesome intersex people, but why let biological reality get in the way of a dumb slogan?

Stating that there are 2 genders used to be an objective, inoffensive fact of life and biology. Trans activists have made it a “slogan.”

Saying the world was flat and black people are slaves with less rights, and stoning people to death use to be fact, the way of life, and unobjectable, does that mean we should never move forward and reach for better? Should we ignore all contrary evidence and never make changes just because some people are scared of the boogeyman?

We use to tell kids the stork delivered the baby, then realized it wasn’t really helpful to tell kids not to lie then lie to them about basic human biology.

Know better do better. The boogeyman isn’t there, the kids will be fine.

Yes, the science proved all of these things to be wrong.

And what is happening right now with regard to so-called “gender affirming care” for trans youth? Isn’t the science proving that there’s no substance behind the care which is resulting in a drawdown of this wrongheaded idea that the LGBTQ lobby has foisted upon society?

So you basically are saying follow the science, and right now, the science is not on the LGBTQ lobby’s side.

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Anonymous wrote:It's going to be really fun when Jewish kids opt out of the Narnia series, Catholics opt out of Romeo and Juliet (suicide), and on and on.

You think that kids in MCPS are actually expected to read classics like this?

Catholic schools teach R&J.

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Anonymous wrote:There are 2 genders.

And all those troublesome intersex people, but why let biological reality get in the way of a dumb slogan?

Stating that there are 2 genders used to be an objective, inoffensive fact of life and biology. Trans activists have made it a “slogan.”

Saying the world was flat and black people are slaves with less rights, and stoning people to death use to be fact, the way of life, and unobjectable, does that mean we should never move forward and reach for better? Should we ignore all contrary evidence and never make changes just because some people are scared of the boogeyman?

We use to tell kids the stork delivered the baby, then realized it wasn’t really helpful to tell kids not to lie then lie to them about basic human biology.

Know better do better. The boogeyman isn’t there, the kids will be fine.

DP. Personally I am quite fine with older kids learning about the new religion that has grown in US that teaches that people have gender souls that can change in a baptism of self-awareness which then requires ritualistic body modification. They should learn about religious beliefs and religious mortification practices. Gender ideology isn’t the only religion that demands body mortification as part of its tenets. However, I do not want young kids taught the religious tenets of this neo religion as fact, because of course they are not. It’s no different that the schools that used to teach that Jesus rose from the dead as fact.

I sharply distinguish between LGB and T, although Pride Puppy with its fetish wear pictures was obviously inappropriate and it was ridiculous for the school district to ever argue that they had the right to show kindergarteners pictures of mostly naked men in bondage gear. No parents except highly suspicious extreme liberal parents want that. Very few parents object to books that show a family with two dads or two moms in the background. But, because the school district refused to moderate and inexplicably decided to fight for the right to require all kindergartners to have cartoon pictures of men in fetishwear in their books, here we are. The arrogance of MCPS is astonishing.

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