Israel strikes Iran despite Trump's nuclear deal hopes

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
The Israeli Air Force conducted a strike in Iran on Thursday, according to two sources with knowledge of the operation. They defied even Trump's requests to not strike while negotiations are ongoing - shows you who is really president.

https://www.axios.com/2025/06/13/israel-strike-iran-trump-nuclear-talks

Revisiting the OP makes me laugh. Especially given the Axios story published later.

This is just Bibi spewing BS.
No one believes Trump could handle a call coordinating anything, and Bibi knows not to trust Trump to keep quiet and not immediately tweet whatever he was told to keep secret.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:They’re full of shit. If they’re concerned about their survival, they wouldn’t bully sovereign nations with bombs. It’s about their regional dominance not survival.

Why are they trying to bomb the nuclear facilities of another country? That’s unprecedented and insane. Nobody concerned about their “survival” would do that. They think the Iron dome is enough to guarantee their survival.

Israel is not concerned about surviving. They’re concerned about dominating

I have to say the pro-Iran-nuclear takes are wild to read. DCUM is full of crazy people.

[Anonymous]

The US has always been "publicly opposed" to Israeli provocations while funding their military.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The US has always been "publicly opposed" to Israeli provocations while funding their military.

Trump was blindsided with this. He didn’t know about this strike. Israel did it because they feared the Us and Iran would come to a negotiation.

They don’t love peace only war . The reason their neighbors want nukes is to protect themselves from the madman of Israel . Even Saudis want it after learning they’re part of the greater Israel project too. Israel does not want to take Palestinian land but the whole Middle East including Turkey. This for a country and faith that’s only like 2% of the world, but they feel they should own the whole world including this country. Hence the freedom of speech crackdowns.

This is not anti semitic. It’s the truth

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The US has always been "publicly opposed" to Israeli provocations while funding their military.

Trump was blindsided with this. He didn’t know about this strike. Israel did it because they feared the Us and Iran would come to a negotiation.

They don’t love peace only war . The reason their neighbors want nukes is to protect themselves from the madman of Israel . Even Saudis want it after learning they’re part of the greater Israel project too. Israel does not want to take Palestinian land but the whole Middle East including Turkey. This for a country and faith that’s only like 2% of the world, but they feel they should own the whole world including this country. Hence the freedom of speech crackdowns.

This is not anti semitic. It’s the truth

Israel is a bad player but let's not pretend as though they are the only bad player in the ME.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Israel, in the past, has always kept the US informed of any assassination attempts or attacks on its neighbors. The US has always green-lighted their efforts.

It's a reasonable assumption to make that this time is no different.

What? Israel doesn’t keep the US informed. They just do what they want and they know we can’t sanction them for it. Did you know they knew about 9/11 and didn’t tell us? They knew about the imminent marine attack in 1982 Beirut in advance and didn’t tell us? They’re not our friend. They’re our frenemy

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The US has always been "publicly opposed" to Israeli provocations while funding their military.

Trump was blindsided with this. He didn’t know about this strike. Israel did it because they feared the Us and Iran would come to a negotiation.

They don’t love peace only war . The reason their neighbors want nukes is to protect themselves from the madman of Israel . Even Saudis want it after learning they’re part of the greater Israel project too. Israel does not want to take Palestinian land but the whole Middle East including Turkey. This for a country and faith that’s only like 2% of the world, but they feel they should own the whole world including this country. Hence the freedom of speech crackdowns.

This is not anti semitic. It’s the truth

Israel is a bad player but let's not pretend as though they are the only bad player in the ME.

One bad player creates bad players. Israel poisoned the region.

The ME radical groups hates us because of Israel not because of our “freedom”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Israel, in the past, has always kept the US informed of any assassination attempts or attacks on its neighbors. The US has always green-lighted their efforts.

It's a reasonable assumption to make that this time is no different.

It is, but also, we cannot stop them if we disapprove. Neither can they stop us for that matter. Except that they stopped our negotiation with Iran by killing the lead negotiator.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The US has always been "publicly opposed" to Israeli provocations while funding their military.

Trump was blindsided with this. He didn’t know about this strike. Israel did it because they feared the Us and Iran would come to a negotiation.

They don’t love peace only war . The reason their neighbors want nukes is to protect themselves from the madman of Israel . Even Saudis want it after learning they’re part of the greater Israel project too. Israel does not want to take Palestinian land but the whole Middle East including Turkey. This for a country and faith that’s only like 2% of the world, but they feel they should own the whole world including this country. Hence the freedom of speech crackdowns.

This is not anti semitic. It’s the truth

Israel is a bad player but let's not pretend as though they are the only bad player in the ME.

They are the actor with our explicit and implicit support.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They’re full of shit. If they’re concerned about their survival, they wouldn’t bully sovereign nations with bombs. It’s about their regional dominance not survival.

Why are they trying to bomb the nuclear facilities of another country? That’s unprecedented and insane. Nobody concerned about their “survival” would do that. They think the Iron dome is enough to guarantee their survival.

Israel is not concerned about surviving. They’re concerned about dominating

I have to say the pro-Iran-nuclear takes are wild to read. DCUM is full of crazy people.

As opposed to the pro Israeli crowd? All Israel has to is solve the root cause of this- Palestinians forced out by the Israeli to create Israel. Palestinians will be given right of return, compensation for pain, death, suffering and property loss plus full citizenship in Israel.

What Israelis did in Gaza is evil. The world must force Israel to give up nuclear weapons. No way a country as unstable and racist as Israel should be allowed to have nuclear weapon. Israel only think right wing Jew Israelis are people. The rest of the world can be killed because they are not Jewish.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Israel, in the past, has always kept the US informed of any assassination attempts or attacks on its neighbors. The US has always green-lighted their efforts.

It's a reasonable assumption to make that this time is no different.

It is, but also, we cannot stop them if we disapprove. Neither can they stop us for that matter. Except that they stopped our negotiation with Iran by killing the lead negotiator.

No the US can stop Israel any time. NATO can not operate without US satellite guidance systems and other electronic. Israel is not even close to a NATO member country in terms of capabilities. Israel is totally dependent on the US. The US can flip a switch and the IDF would be unable to do anything.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They’re full of shit. If they’re concerned about their survival, they wouldn’t bully sovereign nations with bombs. It’s about their regional dominance not survival.

Why are they trying to bomb the nuclear facilities of another country? That’s unprecedented and insane. Nobody concerned about their “survival” would do that. They think the Iron dome is enough to guarantee their survival.

Israel is not concerned about surviving. They’re concerned about dominating

I have to say the pro-Iran-nuclear takes are wild to read. DCUM is full of crazy people.

As opposed to the pro Israeli crowd? All Israel has to is solve the root cause of this- Palestinians forced out by the Israeli to create Israel. Palestinians will be given right of return, compensation for pain, death, suffering and property loss plus full citizenship in Israel.

What Israelis did in Gaza is evil. The world must force Israel to give up nuclear weapons. No way a country as unstable and racist as Israel should be allowed to have nuclear weapon. Israel only think right wing Jew Israelis are people. The rest of the world can be killed because they are not Jewish.

You sound like a lunatic. But that’s typical for these threads. Nutcases all the way down.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They’re full of shit. If they’re concerned about their survival, they wouldn’t bully sovereign nations with bombs. It’s about their regional dominance not survival.

Why are they trying to bomb the nuclear facilities of another country? That’s unprecedented and insane. Nobody concerned about their “survival” would do that. They think the Iron dome is enough to guarantee their survival.

Israel is not concerned about surviving. They’re concerned about dominating

I have to say the pro-Iran-nuclear takes are wild to read. DCUM is full of crazy people.

As opposed to the pro Israeli crowd? All Israel has to is solve the root cause of this- Palestinians forced out by the Israeli to create Israel. Palestinians will be given right of return, compensation for pain, death, suffering and property loss plus full citizenship in Israel.

What Israelis did in Gaza is evil. The world must force Israel to give up nuclear weapons. No way a country as unstable and racist as Israel should be allowed to have nuclear weapon. Israel only think right wing Jew Israelis are people. The rest of the world can be killed because they are not Jewish.

You sound like a lunatic. But that’s typical for these threads. Nutcases all the way down.

It's a single Palestinian shill for Hamas, trying desperately to generate propaganda for consumption by the gullible.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Israel has between 100 - 400 nuclear warheads. Why isn't this ever discussed?

Because nobody cares, since they'll only be used in extremis, not to advance a theocratic vision of a future Caliphate helmed by Iranian mullahs.

BTW, the generally accepted estimate for Israel is 90 warheads, fabricated #s doesn't make you any more credible.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There will never be peace in the Middle East. These countries have been at each other’s throats for seventy years. Both Israel and Iran are bad actors, and the US should simply disengage from the region. We no longer need their oil - what other reason do we have for being involved?

This is racist rhetoric and should be deleted by Jeff.

Because it's insufficiently pro-Palestinian, and insufficiently antisemitic like your interminable posts?