Is $TSLA a buy here?

[Anonymous]

If Musk is supposedly smart, how does he not know his target audience?

It was liberals who were the early adopters of Teslas. Well educated and highly paid liberals bought Teslas.

Then Musk became unhinged and the brand started to suffer around the time when he bought Twitter. He treated fired the employees in a really crappy way and it turned people off.

Since then it only got worse. He became a Trump supporter and Nazi salute put the last nail in the coffin. Tesla owners are offloading their Teslas in droves and the second hand market is terrible. What’s Tesla’s resale value?

Republican rednecks can’t afford Teslas. Good luck finding a market.

I thought about buying a Tesla years ago and now it’s not an option. We can buy other EVs -
Chevy, Toyota, Honda, Rivian, Fiskar, Mercedes, and many more.

Maybe it will go down in history books how a dump CEO destroyed a promising company.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:PP here. Considering the cost, convenience, overall user experience and sheer number of Tesla on the road, I have to agree that thread sounds largely like a group of people trying to tear Elon down. Unlikeable CEO? Yes. Wildly fluctuating stock price? Absolutely. But the product itself is so great that it has made me feel like all other cars and car-buying experiences are operating in the Stone Age. We leased with no money down, so if the company tanks, I'll just give the car back and move on. For now, I'm planning to replace my non-Tesla with another Tesla, because the proof is in the pudding.

That's your choice. I'm waiting for the far cheaper EVs to flood the market. Your Tesla will go the way of the Atari 800.

They aren't going to flood the market. Only very few "righteous" AND loaded libs will sell their Teslas to buy other EVs. And no way conservatives warming up to EV market are going to buy foreign made EVs and not Teslas. You are dreaming. They will be around, but they won't "flood". I am sitting on the sidelines, but will look at it as a buying opportunity when the time comes. Right now it's too volatile for me to invest because of politically unstable situation with regards to this specific stock. It will depend on when terrorizing of Tesla owners and potential buyers will end. Once it ends, I think stock will go up.

Where are these unicorns?

If you keep telling a certain segment of the population that climate change is a myth,.they are going to believe it.

Lol that you think conservatives wanting to buy EVs are unicorns. I already posted upthread that I am the one such person.

I was never particularly interested in EVs because of the cost and the fact that the environmental claims were somewhat dubious (see: lithium mining, etc.).

But now you can get a Tesla in the low $40Ks. Further, we all need to buy cars periodically, and if we conservatives can, at the same time, support a national hero, who is bringing decades’ worth of policy goals to fruition, why would we not do that?

You think only a rare unicorn will adopt that viewpoint, lol?

Quick point of clarification: you say “now you can get a Tesla in the low $40ks.”
It ain’t just “now.” I bought my 2019 model 3 Tesla in 2019 for $35k. Great car. Proud Biden supporter here. Not getting rid of it. It’s almost paid off! Got my magnet so angry leftists who want to vandalize will hopefully leave my family car alone.
Cant stand how those who hate Trump know how to do nothing else except demonize their fellow Americans, name call, and cancel. It’s not a good look.

Trump is evil and he’s killing America. So why are people picking on fellow Americans who went green ?!? Makes no damn sense.

But anyhow, Tesla’s have been under $40k for a while now fwiw.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Nope. It’s only going to go down down down until the company is in real trouble. Unless Musk sells the company, it’s over.

100%

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If Musk is supposedly smart, how does he not know his target audience?

It was liberals who were the early adopters of Teslas. Well educated and highly paid liberals bought Teslas.

Then Musk became unhinged and the brand started to suffer around the time when he bought Twitter. He treated fired the employees in a really crappy way and it turned people off.

Since then it only got worse. He became a Trump supporter and Nazi salute put the last nail in the coffin. Tesla owners are offloading their Teslas in droves and the second hand market is terrible. What’s Tesla’s resale value?

Republican rednecks can’t afford Teslas. Good luck finding a market.

I thought about buying a Tesla years ago and now it’s not an option. We can buy other EVs -
Chevy, Toyota, Honda, Rivian, Fiskar, Mercedes, and many more.

Maybe it will go down in history books how a dump CEO destroyed a promising company.

Accurate.
Don't you have use your house as collateral or some to get a car loan fromTesla? Can you use a conventional car loan from a bank? If not, I would think this would be a barrier to the stereotypical red state MAGA who doesn't own a home.

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Anonymous wrote:PP here. Considering the cost, convenience, overall user experience and sheer number of Tesla on the road, I have to agree that thread sounds largely like a group of people trying to tear Elon down. Unlikeable CEO? Yes. Wildly fluctuating stock price? Absolutely. But the product itself is so great that it has made me feel like all other cars and car-buying experiences are operating in the Stone Age. We leased with no money down, so if the company tanks, I'll just give the car back and move on. For now, I'm planning to replace my non-Tesla with another Tesla, because the proof is in the pudding.

That's your choice. I'm waiting for the far cheaper EVs to flood the market. Your Tesla will go the way of the Atari 800.

They aren't going to flood the market. Only very few "righteous" AND loaded libs will sell their Teslas to buy other EVs. And no way conservatives warming up to EV market are going to buy foreign made EVs and not Teslas. You are dreaming. They will be around, but they won't "flood". I am sitting on the sidelines, but will look at it as a buying opportunity when the time comes. Right now it's too volatile for me to invest because of politically unstable situation with regards to this specific stock. It will depend on when terrorizing of Tesla owners and potential buyers will end. Once it ends, I think stock will go up.

Where are these unicorns?

If you keep telling a certain segment of the population that climate change is a myth,.they are going to believe it.

Lol that you think conservatives wanting to buy EVs are unicorns. I already posted upthread that I am the one such person.

I was never particularly interested in EVs because of the cost and the fact that the environmental claims were somewhat dubious (see: lithium mining, etc.).

But now you can get a Tesla in the low $40Ks. Further, we all need to buy cars periodically, and if we conservatives can, at the same time, support a national hero, who is bringing decades’ worth of policy goals to fruition, why would we not do that?

You think only a rare unicorn will adopt that viewpoint, lol?

Quick point of clarification: you say “now you can get a Tesla in the low $40ks.”
It ain’t just “now.” I bought my 2019 model 3 Tesla in 2019 for $35k. Great car. Proud Biden supporter here. Not getting rid of it. It’s almost paid off! Got my magnet so angry leftists who want to vandalize will hopefully leave my family car alone.
Cant stand how those who hate Trump know how to do nothing else except demonize their fellow Americans, name call, and cancel. It’s not a good look.

Trump is evil and he’s killing America. So why are people picking on fellow Americans who went green ?!? Makes no damn sense.

But anyhow, Tesla’s have been under $40k for a while now fwiw.

You spent FIVE years paying off a $35k car?!

Maybe this isn't the right forum for you.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:PP here. Considering the cost, convenience, overall user experience and sheer number of Tesla on the road, I have to agree that thread sounds largely like a group of people trying to tear Elon down. Unlikeable CEO? Yes. Wildly fluctuating stock price? Absolutely. But the product itself is so great that it has made me feel like all other cars and car-buying experiences are operating in the Stone Age. We leased with no money down, so if the company tanks, I'll just give the car back and move on. For now, I'm planning to replace my non-Tesla with another Tesla, because the proof is in the pudding.

That's your choice. I'm waiting for the far cheaper EVs to flood the market. Your Tesla will go the way of the Atari 800.

They aren't going to flood the market. Only very few "righteous" AND loaded libs will sell their Teslas to buy other EVs. And no way conservatives warming up to EV market are going to buy foreign made EVs and not Teslas. You are dreaming. They will be around, but they won't "flood". I am sitting on the sidelines, but will look at it as a buying opportunity when the time comes. Right now it's too volatile for me to invest because of politically unstable situation with regards to this specific stock. It will depend on when terrorizing of Tesla owners and potential buyers will end. Once it ends, I think stock will go up.

Where are these unicorns?

If you keep telling a certain segment of the population that climate change is a myth,.they are going to believe it.

Lol that you think conservatives wanting to buy EVs are unicorns. I already posted upthread that I am the one such person.

I was never particularly interested in EVs because of the cost and the fact that the environmental claims were somewhat dubious (see: lithium mining, etc.).

But now you can get a Tesla in the low $40Ks. Further, we all need to buy cars periodically, and if we conservatives can, at the same time, support a national hero, who is bringing decades’ worth of policy goals to fruition, why would we not do that?

You think only a rare unicorn will adopt that viewpoint, lol?

Quick point of clarification: you say “now you can get a Tesla in the low $40ks.”
It ain’t just “now.” I bought my 2019 model 3 Tesla in 2019 for $35k. Great car. Proud Biden supporter here. Not getting rid of it. It’s almost paid off! Got my magnet so angry leftists who want to vandalize will hopefully leave my family car alone.
Cant stand how those who hate Trump know how to do nothing else except demonize their fellow Americans, name call, and cancel. It’s not a good look.

Trump is evil and he’s killing America. So why are people picking on fellow Americans who went green ?!? Makes no damn sense.

But anyhow, Tesla’s have been under $40k for a while now fwiw.

You spent FIVE years paying off a $35k car?!

Maybe this isn't the right forum for you.

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NP - I got 1% 5-year financing on my $30k car. If you think I should pay it off early, maybe this isn't the right forum for you.

[Anonymous]

There is no way Tesla can pull out of their nose dive unless they ditch Musk. And if they do then they lose their luster. No it is not a buy. Would not be close to a but unless it was at 10% of current value and even then it is speculative. I do think they will dump Musk at some point further down the road. He will lose SpaceX also. It will keep going just without him.

[Anonymous]

Right now Tesla is a money laundering business.

$1.4 Billion is missing in their creative financing.

Pump and dump screaming ...

When the board members dumb millions all together ie at the same time like last Dec and February it is not a good buy. When it quacks like a duck it is a duck.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:PP here. Considering the cost, convenience, overall user experience and sheer number of Tesla on the road, I have to agree that thread sounds largely like a group of people trying to tear Elon down. Unlikeable CEO? Yes. Wildly fluctuating stock price? Absolutely. But the product itself is so great that it has made me feel like all other cars and car-buying experiences are operating in the Stone Age. We leased with no money down, so if the company tanks, I'll just give the car back and move on. For now, I'm planning to replace my non-Tesla with another Tesla, because the proof is in the pudding.

That's your choice. I'm waiting for the far cheaper EVs to flood the market. Your Tesla will go the way of the Atari 800.

They aren't going to flood the market. Only very few "righteous" AND loaded libs will sell their Teslas to buy other EVs. And no way conservatives warming up to EV market are going to buy foreign made EVs and not Teslas. You are dreaming. They will be around, but they won't "flood". I am sitting on the sidelines, but will look at it as a buying opportunity when the time comes. Right now it's too volatile for me to invest because of politically unstable situation with regards to this specific stock. It will depend on when terrorizing of Tesla owners and potential buyers will end. Once it ends, I think stock will go up.

Where are these unicorns?

If you keep telling a certain segment of the population that climate change is a myth,.they are going to believe it.

Lol that you think conservatives wanting to buy EVs are unicorns. I already posted upthread that I am the one such person.

I was never particularly interested in EVs because of the cost and the fact that the environmental claims were somewhat dubious (see: lithium mining, etc.).

But now you can get a Tesla in the low $40Ks. Further, we all need to buy cars periodically, and if we conservatives can, at the same time, support a national hero, who is bringing decades’ worth of policy goals to fruition, why would we not do that?

You think only a rare unicorn will adopt that viewpoint, lol?

Quick point of clarification: you say “now you can get a Tesla in the low $40ks.”
It ain’t just “now.” I bought my 2019 model 3 Tesla in 2019 for $35k. Great car. Proud Biden supporter here. Not getting rid of it. It’s almost paid off! Got my magnet so angry leftists who want to vandalize will hopefully leave my family car alone.
Cant stand how those who hate Trump know how to do nothing else except demonize their fellow Americans, name call, and cancel. It’s not a good look.

Trump is evil and he’s killing America. So why are people picking on fellow Americans who went green ?!? Makes no damn sense.

But anyhow, Tesla’s have been under $40k for a while now fwiw.

You spent FIVE years paying off a $35k car?!

Maybe this isn't the right forum for you.

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NP - I got 1% 5-year financing on my $30k car. If you think I should pay it off early, maybe this isn't the right forum for you.

The Model S has never been $30,000. If it had then we wouldn't be having this conversation.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:PP here. Considering the cost, convenience, overall user experience and sheer number of Tesla on the road, I have to agree that thread sounds largely like a group of people trying to tear Elon down. Unlikeable CEO? Yes. Wildly fluctuating stock price? Absolutely. But the product itself is so great that it has made me feel like all other cars and car-buying experiences are operating in the Stone Age. We leased with no money down, so if the company tanks, I'll just give the car back and move on. For now, I'm planning to replace my non-Tesla with another Tesla, because the proof is in the pudding.

That's your choice. I'm waiting for the far cheaper EVs to flood the market. Your Tesla will go the way of the Atari 800.

They aren't going to flood the market. Only very few "righteous" AND loaded libs will sell their Teslas to buy other EVs. And no way conservatives warming up to EV market are going to buy foreign made EVs and not Teslas. You are dreaming. They will be around, but they won't "flood". I am sitting on the sidelines, but will look at it as a buying opportunity when the time comes. Right now it's too volatile for me to invest because of politically unstable situation with regards to this specific stock. It will depend on when terrorizing of Tesla owners and potential buyers will end. Once it ends, I think stock will go up.

Where are these unicorns?

If you keep telling a certain segment of the population that climate change is a myth,.they are going to believe it.

Lol that you think conservatives wanting to buy EVs are unicorns. I already posted upthread that I am the one such person.

I was never particularly interested in EVs because of the cost and the fact that the environmental claims were somewhat dubious (see: lithium mining, etc.).

But now you can get a Tesla in the low $40Ks. Further, we all need to buy cars periodically, and if we conservatives can, at the same time, support a national hero, who is bringing decades’ worth of policy goals to fruition, why would we not do that?

You think only a rare unicorn will adopt that viewpoint, lol?

Quick point of clarification: you say “now you can get a Tesla in the low $40ks.”
It ain’t just “now.” I bought my 2019 model 3 Tesla in 2019 for $35k. Great car. Proud Biden supporter here. Not getting rid of it. It’s almost paid off! Got my magnet so angry leftists who want to vandalize will hopefully leave my family car alone.
Cant stand how those who hate Trump know how to do nothing else except demonize their fellow Americans, name call, and cancel. It’s not a good look.

Trump is evil and he’s killing America. So why are people picking on fellow Americans who went green ?!? Makes no damn sense.

But anyhow, Tesla’s have been under $40k for a while now fwiw.

You spent FIVE years paying off a $35k car?!

Maybe this isn't the right forum for you.

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NP - I got 1% 5-year financing on my $30k car. If you think I should pay it off early, maybe this isn't the right forum for you.

The Model S has never been $30,000. If it had then we wouldn't be having this conversation.

You missed the point, which was that there may be completely valid reasons to not pay off a car - like a low interest loan. NP stands for "new poster" indicating I was different from the person who posted above. Maybe this isn't the right site altogether for you.

[Anonymous]

Up 15% last week.

Did the "resistance" get bored, and has Tesla weathered the storm?

Is someone using cash to prop up the price?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If Musk was really in trouble wouldn’t he just take SpaceX/Starlink public? I think it is all ego.

He can always pledge the rest of his Tesla stock to cover the Twitter loans. He's also been selling off his Twitter stock to outside investors at around the same valuation he bought it for.

The rumors of margin calls taking him down are just fantasy. It will likely cost him quite a bit but it's not catastrophic.

Not really. It's just the same
Tesla/SpaceX/xAI owners consortium shuffling money around to prop up Twitter to avoid a foreclosure.
They need to prevent a margin call that would force a sale of Tesla stock and depress the price further.
The $44B "valuation" is fake.


https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-03-19/elon-musk-s-x-raises-close-to-1-billion-in-fresh-equity-funding

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Anonymous wrote:Sure, I must be a bot, not a normal human mom who hates buying cars, hates dealing with cars, and found a car that actually makes my life easier, less expensive and more enjoyable.

Recognizing this unfortunate reality doesn't fit your narrative, maybe just don't buy the stock?

It's your choice if you want to drive such an unsafe car. But anyway, the topic is Tesla stock. And yes, it's a terrible investment. The company is not long-term viable.

Stop your nonsense with "unsafe" car. You know why it's "unsafe", it's because your moron "activists" are burning them down! And other morons are trying to drive erratically to annoy and "protest" against regular Tesla drivers. And idiots vandalizing the cars, so that owners are afraid to use them. It's bullying and terrorizing people. It's not protesting and it's not "boycotting". It's criminal behavior. Once arsonists start getting harsh legal punishment see how quickly Teslas will stop burning. Once someone gets into a deadly accident due to erratic driving behavior next to Teslas on the road, see how quickly others start thinking twice doing this. Once they target a wrong Tesla owner and they are armed, see how quickly this BS will stop.

Oh honey- the Tesla owners and the people setting them on fire are one and the same. Teslas are recording video all the time and transmitting it over WiFI, and yet we still don’t know who’s doing all this property destruction? Bull.

We know - it’s right wingers burning their worthless cars for the insurance money. It’s why the insurance companies are dropping them hard and fast. It took the insurance companies YEARS to drop the 2010-2013 Hyundais that were laughably easy to steal. This has taken what - weeks? It’s because of the fraud.

Insurance companies don't care if the risk is fraud or terrorism. They only care about avoiding an unpriceable risk and unsellable bad-optics premiums.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If Musk was really in trouble wouldn’t he just take SpaceX/Starlink public? I think it is all ego.

No body trusts Musk companies now. He'd lose a fortune trying an offering now, and being forced to publicize audited financials which, knowing Musk's history, have been fraudulent.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Sure, I must be a bot, not a normal human mom who hates buying cars, hates dealing with cars, and found a car that actually makes my life easier, less expensive and more enjoyable.

Recognizing this unfortunate reality doesn't fit your narrative, maybe just don't buy the stock?

It's your choice if you want to drive such an unsafe car. But anyway, the topic is Tesla stock. And yes, it's a terrible investment. The company is not long-term viable.

Stop your nonsense with "unsafe" car. You know why it's "unsafe", it's because your moron "activists" are burning them down! And other morons are trying to drive erratically to annoy and "protest" against regular Tesla drivers. And idiots vandalizing the cars, so that owners are afraid to use them. It's bullying and terrorizing people. It's not protesting and it's not "boycotting". It's criminal behavior. Once arsonists start getting harsh legal punishment see how quickly Teslas will stop burning. Once someone gets into a deadly accident due to erratic driving behavior next to Teslas on the road, see how quickly others start thinking twice doing this. Once they target a wrong Tesla owner and they are armed, see how quickly this BS will stop.

The erratic driving is AutoPilot and "Full" (of it) Self Driving, and the burning is the cars self-immolating when they bump into things.
Lowest rated cars on the road for quality and safety.