FCPS Boundary Review Updates

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Anonymous wrote:There are people on this forum that should walk before the students of Herndon, Annandale, and Lewis, look those children in the eyes, and say, "I don't want my kid to go to school with you."

That's the message you're sending.

When you talk about community, you are saying that you don't want your children to be a part of the communities of Herndon, Annandale, and Lewis.

Because it's not the schools. It's not the teachers. People can make empty statements about "bringing programs to schools," but it's not the programs. It comes down to the fact that certain parents in FCPS don't want their kids to go to schools with the children at certain schools.

I wish this thread would shut down because it's full of ugliness. It's like we're repeating the 1960s, when parents didn't want schools to de-segregate. So much of the same language and behavior is being repeated here. It's ugly.

I want my kid at a school with other kids/families that value academics and other skills. The can rezone everyone but they can't stop people from selling their homes and moving to new neighborhoods. People's values are what drives their behavior and that will not change because FCPS tries to shake things up. If they truly are trying to rezone in order to achieve equity goals, they are going to be wasting a lot of time and energy on something that is going to backfire ultimately. But that's not surprising because they don't really care about achieving equity so much as looking like they care.

I mentioned a couple of pages back, all they’re going to do is crowd out more affordable housing as UMC families rent in their chosen pyramid.

And before the equity posters claim residency fraud, please also plan to discuss why renting a pied a terre would amount to fraud.

It's not fraud to rent an abode. It's fraud to claim it's your primary residence in order to send your kid to a school they aren't entitled to attend.

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_+one more You will have to lie and say you actually live there. If you have enough money to do that, send your kid to private. That said, i am strongly against this boundary issue. Why? Because my neighborhood school is functioning great and we are not going to be sent to any of the troubled schools. However, my neighborhood could be redistricted to a school outside our community.

Residence is ill- defined. Doesn’t rewrite much time at the apartment to establish residency.

Anyone who is redistricted will take a hard look at this.

"Reside" is not a vague term at all. It is commonly understood to mean "have one's permanent home in a particular place."

Go ahead, though, and make idle threats about your clever plans. Even better, follow up on this strategy and get called out by other parents who do actually reside in a school's attendance area.

I understand why you are upset about this out, especially because it’ll hurt families similar to those that you want to help through equity, but it really doesn’t take much effort, it’s an annoying cost for sure, but many families can pay it. Trust me, it wouldn’t be my first choice either, but neither would I allow the school board to hinder my choices for how I raise my kids.

Nobody from the community would get “called out by other parents,” that’s just your scare tactic to try to keep families from effectively using the rental strategy. Anyone who is in the crosshairs should absolutely consider this strategy to counter the efforts against their wishes.

Hey, might even have an additional pool that you can use!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There are people on this forum that should walk before the students of Herndon, Annandale, and Lewis, look those children in the eyes, and say, "I don't want my kid to go to school with you."

That's the message you're sending.

When you talk about community, you are saying that you don't want your children to be a part of the communities of Herndon, Annandale, and Lewis.

Because it's not the schools. It's not the teachers. People can make empty statements about "bringing programs to schools," but it's not the programs. It comes down to the fact that certain parents in FCPS don't want their kids to go to schools with the children at certain schools.

I wish this thread would shut down because it's full of ugliness. It's like we're repeating the 1960s, when parents didn't want schools to de-segregate. So much of the same language and behavior is being repeated here. It's ugly.

I want my kid at a school with other kids/families that value academics and other skills. The can rezone everyone but they can't stop people from selling their homes and moving to new neighborhoods. People's values are what drives their behavior and that will not change because FCPS tries to shake things up. If they truly are trying to rezone in order to achieve equity goals, they are going to be wasting a lot of time and energy on something that is going to backfire ultimately. But that's not surprising because they don't really care about achieving equity so much as looking like they care.

I mentioned a couple of pages back, all they’re going to do is crowd out more affordable housing as UMC families rent in their chosen pyramid.

And before the equity posters claim residency fraud, please also plan to discuss why renting a pied a terre would amount to fraud.

It's not fraud to rent an abode. It's fraud to claim it's your primary residence in order to send your kid to a school they aren't entitled to attend.

No it actually isn’t fraud. You haven’t laid out your elements. Seems like You are saying it’s fraud because you say so - read your circular logic.

And if a renter rents in a certain pyramid, they are 100% “entitled to attend” that pyramid. Sorry, I know that’s not the response you wanted.

This will be the way. And the only way around it would be to just zone affordable housing to the pyramid.

If you are registering a kid, you provide a residency attestation: "I certify that I am currently residing with my child(ren) in Fairfax County at [address]."

You also affirm that you understand that "providing false or otherwise untrue information for school enrollment purposes constitutes a Class 4 misdemeanor."

If you knowingly provide a false certification about where you are currently residing, you have engaged in fraud, as that term is generally understood, and are subject to being fined (and your kid is subject to being booted out of the school they shouldn't be attending).

FCPS only has one person working on residency.

FCPS isn't enforcing anything.

Wait - only ONE person?!? For all of FCPS??

FCPS = 183,000 students.

There is a near-zero chance of getting caught at that ratio.

[Anonymous]

You all need to stop feeding the Gatehouse trolls and get focused on speaking to your communities. If they agree, write your delegate. If your delegate agrees with you, make sure the state it publicly, in writing. If the won’t, find 125 people who agree with you, and file some paperwork.

Fighting with the troll buried a decent strategy three pages back. That’s all they have. Ignore it. Use this space to share effective and productive ideas to be heard.

I suggested reaching out to your delegate to object to the current FCPS boundary review process currently in place. The current process does not allow for your voice to be heard. The current process should be paused. You can make that happen. Gatehouse does not want that. They want bury your voice. Do not waste space with an empty back and forth. Get organized and act now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There are people on this forum that should walk before the students of Herndon, Annandale, and Lewis, look those children in the eyes, and say, "I don't want my kid to go to school with you."

That's the message you're sending.

When you talk about community, you are saying that you don't want your children to be a part of the communities of Herndon, Annandale, and Lewis.

Because it's not the schools. It's not the teachers. People can make empty statements about "bringing programs to schools," but it's not the programs. It comes down to the fact that certain parents in FCPS don't want their kids to go to schools with the children at certain schools.

I wish this thread would shut down because it's full of ugliness. It's like we're repeating the 1960s, when parents didn't want schools to de-segregate. So much of the same language and behavior is being repeated here. It's ugly.

Put programs at these schools that people want. Make them bright and shiny and enticing. If families are forced to them are current state, they will find loopholes or move.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It’s super easy:

1. Ask your delegate whether their values align with yours: will they publicly ask for a pause to a boundary review process is biased against their constituents? If they say yes, get them to make a public statement to that effect, such as in their newsletter or on their website. If they won’t make a statement in support of their constituents, proceed to step 2.

2. Find 125 like-minded individuals in your community and follow the simple steps on this one-pager put out by the Virginia Department of Elections (https://www.elections.virginia.gov/media/candidatesandpacs/2025-candidate-bulletins/2025-06-17_Pr_One_Pager_House_of_Del_rev_1-28-25.pdf). Can find 125 like-minded people by April 3? Can you raise $352.80 for the filing fee? I bet you can.

3. Let FCPS campaign for you over the coming months. With every new, outrageous “proposal” they create a reason for you to raise interest and support for your new candidate. Unless, of course, FCPS reads the room and agrees to pause this train wreck and revamp their biased process (spoiler alert: they won’t, they will just throw more gasoline on the fire).

It’s up to you. If you act now, you can have your voice heard and send a clear message that FCPS does not own your children. FCPS is not entitled to carve up the community that you have invested in for years because it suits their political agenda.

Or you can “wait and see,” participate in summer BRAC sessions (you feedback is for show, it will be ignored), and send you kids wherever FCPS deems is “best” based on their “holistic” interpretation of policy 8130.8.

If do not act now, you missing your chance to make them listen to your community. It is not as hard as you think. You have organized larger events with more people with far less at stake for you personally. You can do it. Make a difference. For your kids.

This is the idea.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There are people on this forum that should walk before the students of Herndon, Annandale, and Lewis, look those children in the eyes, and say, "I don't want my kid to go to school with you."

That's the message you're sending.

When you talk about community, you are saying that you don't want your children to be a part of the communities of Herndon, Annandale, and Lewis.

Because it's not the schools. It's not the teachers. People can make empty statements about "bringing programs to schools," but it's not the programs. It comes down to the fact that certain parents in FCPS don't want their kids to go to schools with the children at certain schools.

I wish this thread would shut down because it's full of ugliness. It's like we're repeating the 1960s, when parents didn't want schools to de-segregate. So much of the same language and behavior is being repeated here. It's ugly.

I want my kid at a school with other kids/families that value academics and other skills. The can rezone everyone but they can't stop people from selling their homes and moving to new neighborhoods. People's values are what drives their behavior and that will not change because FCPS tries to shake things up. If they truly are trying to rezone in order to achieve equity goals, they are going to be wasting a lot of time and energy on something that is going to backfire ultimately. But that's not surprising because they don't really care about achieving equity so much as looking like they care.

I mentioned a couple of pages back, all they’re going to do is crowd out more affordable housing as UMC families rent in their chosen pyramid.

And before the equity posters claim residency fraud, please also plan to discuss why renting a pied a terre would amount to fraud.

It's not fraud to rent an abode. It's fraud to claim it's your primary residence in order to send your kid to a school they aren't entitled to attend.

Dr. Reid said that it is okay to use fraudulent addresses to go to an out of zone school in FCPS, even if you are from a different county or our of state.

If Hayfield showed us anything, it is that.

FCPS does not care if you use a frsudulent address, or Grandma's address, or your old rental property, or someone's basement, or even Planet Fitness.

Sounds like a FAFO scenario. Can't imagine how embarrassing it will be for Buffy when it turns out she is getting kicked out of Langley because Papa is a cheater and tried to pass off their pied a terre as a primary residence.

You’re responding to a different poster. Why do you think Buffy would be kicked out? She’s there legitimately.

Btw, for anyone following along, this poster is full of bluster, but has nothing to back it up.

Residency fraud runs rampant in our system, and the low hanging fruit where students use businesses or P.O. Boxes don’t even get caught most of the time. Don’t let her fear-mongering deter you from a strategic rental.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It’s super easy:

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2. Find 125 like-minded individuals in your community and follow the simple steps on this one-pager put out by the Virginia Department of Elections (https://www.elections.virginia.gov/media/candidatesandpacs/2025-candidate-bulletins/2025-06-17_Pr_One_Pager_House_of_Del_rev_1-28-25.pdf). Can find 125 like-minded people by April 3? Can you raise $352.80 for the filing fee? I bet you can.

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If do not act now, you missing your chance to make them listen to your community. It is not as hard as you think. You have organized larger events with more people with far less at stake for you personally. You can do it. Make a difference. For your kids.

That sounds super doable. Ideally, we should co-ordinate with folks, so hitting 125 required signatures is easy. I bet I could get 40 signatures in a day, just talking to my neighbors. How do we coordinate this by district?

The first step is to give your delegate an opportunity to speak up as your ally. As part of this, reach out to members of your community through neighborhood groups, FB, PTA, etc. Get a letter together with lots of signatures. This does several things:

1) It demonstrates unity among the constituents and affected groups.
2) It is your initial organization/reliable signature collection effort.
3) If you get more than 125 signatures on the letter, it demonstrates that the consequences are there. You don’t threaten a primary, but they will see that you can do one.

The letter should be clear and simple. Make your concerns known and request a concrete action from your delegate. For example:

The signatories of this letter represent groups in your community including A,B, and C. We have concerns with the boundary review process that include X, Y, and Z. While we recognize the need to make boundary adjustments exist for a school district as large as FCPS, the current process is biased against your constituents and should be paused. Accordingly, we ask that you make a public statement that requests FCPS to pause the current boundary review and then work with your community to create a more transparent and balanced process.

If they ignore you, make verbal “nothing statements” or refuse to act, primary them. Do not accept anything less than your delegate firmly and publicly advocating for your community. If they won’t do that for this issue, that tells you all you need to know when the casinos show up with the cash. Primary them.

This is how you do it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There are people on this forum that should walk before the students of Herndon, Annandale, and Lewis, look those children in the eyes, and say, "I don't want my kid to go to school with you."

That's the message you're sending.

When you talk about community, you are saying that you don't want your children to be a part of the communities of Herndon, Annandale, and Lewis.

Because it's not the schools. It's not the teachers. People can make empty statements about "bringing programs to schools," but it's not the programs. It comes down to the fact that certain parents in FCPS don't want their kids to go to schools with the children at certain schools.

I wish this thread would shut down because it's full of ugliness. It's like we're repeating the 1960s, when parents didn't want schools to de-segregate. So much of the same language and behavior is being repeated here. It's ugly.

I want my kid at a school with other kids/families that value academics and other skills. The can rezone everyone but they can't stop people from selling their homes and moving to new neighborhoods. People's values are what drives their behavior and that will not change because FCPS tries to shake things up. If they truly are trying to rezone in order to achieve equity goals, they are going to be wasting a lot of time and energy on something that is going to backfire ultimately. But that's not surprising because they don't really care about achieving equity so much as looking like they care.

I mentioned a couple of pages back, all they’re going to do is crowd out more affordable housing as UMC families rent in their chosen pyramid.

And before the equity posters claim residency fraud, please also plan to discuss why renting a pied a terre would amount to fraud.

It's not fraud to rent an abode. It's fraud to claim it's your primary residence in order to send your kid to a school they aren't entitled to attend.

No it actually isn’t fraud. You haven’t laid out your elements. Seems like You are saying it’s fraud because you say so - read your circular logic.

And if a renter rents in a certain pyramid, they are 100% “entitled to attend” that pyramid. Sorry, I know that’s not the response you wanted.

This will be the way. And the only way around it would be to just zone affordable housing to the pyramid.

If you are registering a kid, you provide a residency attestation: "I certify that I am currently residing with my child(ren) in Fairfax County at [address]."

You also affirm that you understand that "providing false or otherwise untrue information for school enrollment purposes constitutes a Class 4 misdemeanor."

If you knowingly provide a false certification about where you are currently residing, you have engaged in fraud, as that term is generally understood, and are subject to being fined (and your kid is subject to being booted out of the school they shouldn't be attending).

FCPS only has one person working on residency.

FCPS isn't enforcing anything.

Wait - only ONE person?!? For all of FCPS??

FCPS = 183,000 students.

There is a near-zero chance of getting caught at that ratio.

All they would have to do is introduce residency checks when moving schools (ES - MS and then MS - HS). They could probably even just get away with starting HS. When you first register a kid in FCPS, either when they start in K or when you move in to the district, you have to provide a proof of current address that shows your residency, to the people in the school front office at your school. If you had to do that again when starting middle and high, you could catch a lot of the residency cheaters. Not all because there would still be a lot of claims of “homeless students,” but a lot. Like all the people who come to Edison from PG County. They don’t even live in Virginia! I believe Arlington caught a lot of residency fakers this way recently.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There are people on this forum that should walk before the students of Herndon, Annandale, and Lewis, look those children in the eyes, and say, "I don't want my kid to go to school with you."

That's the message you're sending.

When you talk about community, you are saying that you don't want your children to be a part of the communities of Herndon, Annandale, and Lewis.

Because it's not the schools. It's not the teachers. People can make empty statements about "bringing programs to schools," but it's not the programs. It comes down to the fact that certain parents in FCPS don't want their kids to go to schools with the children at certain schools.

I wish this thread would shut down because it's full of ugliness. It's like we're repeating the 1960s, when parents didn't want schools to de-segregate. So much of the same language and behavior is being repeated here. It's ugly.

I want my kid at a school with other kids/families that value academics and other skills. The can rezone everyone but they can't stop people from selling their homes and moving to new neighborhoods. People's values are what drives their behavior and that will not change because FCPS tries to shake things up. If they truly are trying to rezone in order to achieve equity goals, they are going to be wasting a lot of time and energy on something that is going to backfire ultimately. But that's not surprising because they don't really care about achieving equity so much as looking like they care.

I mentioned a couple of pages back, all they’re going to do is crowd out more affordable housing as UMC families rent in their chosen pyramid.

And before the equity posters claim residency fraud, please also plan to discuss why renting a pied a terre would amount to fraud.

It's not fraud to rent an abode. It's fraud to claim it's your primary residence in order to send your kid to a school they aren't entitled to attend.

No it actually isn’t fraud. You haven’t laid out your elements. Seems like You are saying it’s fraud because you say so - read your circular logic.

And if a renter rents in a certain pyramid, they are 100% “entitled to attend” that pyramid. Sorry, I know that’s not the response you wanted.

This will be the way. And the only way around it would be to just zone affordable housing to the pyramid.

If you are registering a kid, you provide a residency attestation: "I certify that I am currently residing with my child(ren) in Fairfax County at [address]."

You also affirm that you understand that "providing false or otherwise untrue information for school enrollment purposes constitutes a Class 4 misdemeanor."

If you knowingly provide a false certification about where you are currently residing, you have engaged in fraud, as that term is generally understood, and are subject to being fined (and your kid is subject to being booted out of the school they shouldn't be attending).

FCPS only has one person working on residency.

FCPS isn't enforcing anything.

Wait - only ONE person?!? For all of FCPS??

FCPS = 183,000 students.

There is a near-zero chance of getting caught at that ratio.

Don’t worry, I’m sure they’ll have a robust system of checks next year after their massive budget shortfall and federal funding gets pulled. They’ll be able to bear the expense of hundreds or thousands of residency checkers.

Anyway, just to draw a bow around this discussion, if you are actually renting the house/apartment it’s hard to imagine it being something that they’d ever be able to go after, and, if they tried, you would be able to go there as frequently as would be required. Seems pretty iron clad to me.

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Anonymous wrote:There are people on this forum that should walk before the students of Herndon, Annandale, and Lewis, look those children in the eyes, and say, "I don't want my kid to go to school with you."

That's the message you're sending.

When you talk about community, you are saying that you don't want your children to be a part of the communities of Herndon, Annandale, and Lewis.

Because it's not the schools. It's not the teachers. People can make empty statements about "bringing programs to schools," but it's not the programs. It comes down to the fact that certain parents in FCPS don't want their kids to go to schools with the children at certain schools.

I wish this thread would shut down because it's full of ugliness. It's like we're repeating the 1960s, when parents didn't want schools to de-segregate. So much of the same language and behavior is being repeated here. It's ugly.

I want my kid at a school with other kids/families that value academics and other skills. The can rezone everyone but they can't stop people from selling their homes and moving to new neighborhoods. People's values are what drives their behavior and that will not change because FCPS tries to shake things up. If they truly are trying to rezone in order to achieve equity goals, they are going to be wasting a lot of time and energy on something that is going to backfire ultimately. But that's not surprising because they don't really care about achieving equity so much as looking like they care.

I mentioned a couple of pages back, all they’re going to do is crowd out more affordable housing as UMC families rent in their chosen pyramid.

And before the equity posters claim residency fraud, please also plan to discuss why renting a pied a terre would amount to fraud.

It's not fraud to rent an abode. It's fraud to claim it's your primary residence in order to send your kid to a school they aren't entitled to attend.

No it actually isn’t fraud. You haven’t laid out your elements. Seems like You are saying it’s fraud because you say so - read your circular logic.

And if a renter rents in a certain pyramid, they are 100% “entitled to attend” that pyramid. Sorry, I know that’s not the response you wanted.

This will be the way. And the only way around it would be to just zone affordable housing to the pyramid.

If you are registering a kid, you provide a residency attestation: "I certify that I am currently residing with my child(ren) in Fairfax County at [address]."

You also affirm that you understand that "providing false or otherwise untrue information for school enrollment purposes constitutes a Class 4 misdemeanor."

If you knowingly provide a false certification about where you are currently residing, you have engaged in fraud, as that term is generally understood, and are subject to being fined (and your kid is subject to being booted out of the school they shouldn't be attending).

FCPS only has one person working on residency.

FCPS isn't enforcing anything.

Wait - only ONE person?!? For all of FCPS??

FCPS = 183,000 students.

There is a near-zero chance of getting caught at that ratio.

All they would have to do is introduce residency checks when moving schools (ES - MS and then MS - HS). They could probably even just get away with starting HS. When you first register a kid in FCPS, either when they start in K or when you move in to the district, you have to provide a proof of current address that shows your residency, to the people in the school front office at your school. If you had to do that again when starting middle and high, you could catch a lot of the residency cheaters. Not all because there would still be a lot of claims of “homeless students,” but a lot. Like all the people who come to Edison from PG County. They don’t even live in Virginia! I believe Arlington caught a lot of residency fakers this way recently.

Of course, this wouldn’t ensnare a renter in the pyramid.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There are people on this forum that should walk before the students of Herndon, Annandale, and Lewis, look those children in the eyes, and say, "I don't want my kid to go to school with you."

That's the message you're sending.

When you talk about community, you are saying that you don't want your children to be a part of the communities of Herndon, Annandale, and Lewis.

Because it's not the schools. It's not the teachers. People can make empty statements about "bringing programs to schools," but it's not the programs. It comes down to the fact that certain parents in FCPS don't want their kids to go to schools with the children at certain schools.

I wish this thread would shut down because it's full of ugliness. It's like we're repeating the 1960s, when parents didn't want schools to de-segregate. So much of the same language and behavior is being repeated here. It's ugly.

I want my kid at a school with other kids/families that value academics and other skills. The can rezone everyone but they can't stop people from selling their homes and moving to new neighborhoods. People's values are what drives their behavior and that will not change because FCPS tries to shake things up. If they truly are trying to rezone in order to achieve equity goals, they are going to be wasting a lot of time and energy on something that is going to backfire ultimately. But that's not surprising because they don't really care about achieving equity so much as looking like they care.

I mentioned a couple of pages back, all they’re going to do is crowd out more affordable housing as UMC families rent in their chosen pyramid.

And before the equity posters claim residency fraud, please also plan to discuss why renting a pied a terre would amount to fraud.

It's not fraud to rent an abode. It's fraud to claim it's your primary residence in order to send your kid to a school they aren't entitled to attend.

No it actually isn’t fraud. You haven’t laid out your elements. Seems like You are saying it’s fraud because you say so - read your circular logic.

And if a renter rents in a certain pyramid, they are 100% “entitled to attend” that pyramid. Sorry, I know that’s not the response you wanted.

This will be the way. And the only way around it would be to just zone affordable housing to the pyramid.

If you are registering a kid, you provide a residency attestation: "I certify that I am currently residing with my child(ren) in Fairfax County at [address]."

You also affirm that you understand that "providing false or otherwise untrue information for school enrollment purposes constitutes a Class 4 misdemeanor."

If you knowingly provide a false certification about where you are currently residing, you have engaged in fraud, as that term is generally understood, and are subject to being fined (and your kid is subject to being booted out of the school they shouldn't be attending).

FCPS only has one person working on residency.

FCPS isn't enforcing anything.

Wait - only ONE person?!? For all of FCPS??

FCPS = 183,000 students.

There is a near-zero chance of getting caught at that ratio.

All they would have to do is introduce residency checks when moving schools (ES - MS and then MS - HS). They could probably even just get away with starting HS. When you first register a kid in FCPS, either when they start in K or when you move in to the district, you have to provide a proof of current address that shows your residency, to the people in the school front office at your school. If you had to do that again when starting middle and high, you could catch a lot of the residency cheaters. Not all because there would still be a lot of claims of “homeless students,” but a lot. Like all the people who come to Edison from PG County. They don’t even live in Virginia! I believe Arlington caught a lot of residency fakers this way recently.

Of course, this wouldn’t ensnare a renter in the pyramid.

No, but you’d get all the people who quietly moved to a big home in a less desirable pyramid 3 years ago, and the people using PO Boxes or business addresses. Most people aren’t going through the expense of renting an apartment to stay at whatever school.

I’d also have someone noting at pickup/dropoff which kids are coming in cars with MD or DC plates because it’s a lot if you’re in the eastern parts of the county. And maybe those kids get an extra look from the school to investigate where they’re really living.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There are people on this forum that should walk before the students of Herndon, Annandale, and Lewis, look those children in the eyes, and say, "I don't want my kid to go to school with you."

That's the message you're sending.

When you talk about community, you are saying that you don't want your children to be a part of the communities of Herndon, Annandale, and Lewis.

Because it's not the schools. It's not the teachers. People can make empty statements about "bringing programs to schools," but it's not the programs. It comes down to the fact that certain parents in FCPS don't want their kids to go to schools with the children at certain schools.

I wish this thread would shut down because it's full of ugliness. It's like we're repeating the 1960s, when parents didn't want schools to de-segregate. So much of the same language and behavior is being repeated here. It's ugly.

I want my kid at a school with other kids/families that value academics and other skills. The can rezone everyone but they can't stop people from selling their homes and moving to new neighborhoods. People's values are what drives their behavior and that will not change because FCPS tries to shake things up. If they truly are trying to rezone in order to achieve equity goals, they are going to be wasting a lot of time and energy on something that is going to backfire ultimately. But that's not surprising because they don't really care about achieving equity so much as looking like they care.

I mentioned a couple of pages back, all they’re going to do is crowd out more affordable housing as UMC families rent in their chosen pyramid.

And before the equity posters claim residency fraud, please also plan to discuss why renting a pied a terre would amount to fraud.

It's not fraud to rent an abode. It's fraud to claim it's your primary residence in order to send your kid to a school they aren't entitled to attend.

No it actually isn’t fraud. You haven’t laid out your elements. Seems like You are saying it’s fraud because you say so - read your circular logic.

And if a renter rents in a certain pyramid, they are 100% “entitled to attend” that pyramid. Sorry, I know that’s not the response you wanted.

This will be the way. And the only way around it would be to just zone affordable housing to the pyramid.

If you are registering a kid, you provide a residency attestation: "I certify that I am currently residing with my child(ren) in Fairfax County at [address]."

You also affirm that you understand that "providing false or otherwise untrue information for school enrollment purposes constitutes a Class 4 misdemeanor."

If you knowingly provide a false certification about where you are currently residing, you have engaged in fraud, as that term is generally understood, and are subject to being fined (and your kid is subject to being booted out of the school they shouldn't be attending).

FCPS only has one person working on residency.

FCPS isn't enforcing anything.

Wait - only ONE person?!? For all of FCPS??

FCPS = 183,000 students.

There is a near-zero chance of getting caught at that ratio.

All they would have to do is introduce residency checks when moving schools (ES - MS and then MS - HS). They could probably even just get away with starting HS. When you first register a kid in FCPS, either when they start in K or when you move in to the district, you have to provide a proof of current address that shows your residency, to the people in the school front office at your school. If you had to do that again when starting middle and high, you could catch a lot of the residency cheaters. Not all because there would still be a lot of claims of “homeless students,” but a lot. Like all the people who come to Edison from PG County. They don’t even live in Virginia! I believe Arlington caught a lot of residency fakers this way recently.

Of course, this wouldn’t ensnare a renter in the pyramid.

No, but you’d get all the people who quietly moved to a big home in a less desirable pyramid 3 years ago, and the people using PO Boxes or business addresses. Most people aren’t going through the expense of renting an apartment to stay at whatever school.

I’d also have someone noting at pickup/dropoff which kids are coming in cars with MD or DC plates because it’s a lot if you’re in the eastern parts of the county. And maybe those kids get an extra look from the school to investigate where they’re really living.

The real reason they won’t look into residency more closely is because it’d end up identifying more residency fraud for lower SES families.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are people on this forum that should walk before the students of Herndon, Annandale, and Lewis, look those children in the eyes, and say, "I don't want my kid to go to school with you."

That's the message you're sending.

When you talk about community, you are saying that you don't want your children to be a part of the communities of Herndon, Annandale, and Lewis.

Because it's not the schools. It's not the teachers. People can make empty statements about "bringing programs to schools," but it's not the programs. It comes down to the fact that certain parents in FCPS don't want their kids to go to schools with the children at certain schools.

I wish this thread would shut down because it's full of ugliness. It's like we're repeating the 1960s, when parents didn't want schools to de-segregate. So much of the same language and behavior is being repeated here. It's ugly.

I want my kid at a school with other kids/families that value academics and other skills. The can rezone everyone but they can't stop people from selling their homes and moving to new neighborhoods. People's values are what drives their behavior and that will not change because FCPS tries to shake things up. If they truly are trying to rezone in order to achieve equity goals, they are going to be wasting a lot of time and energy on something that is going to backfire ultimately. But that's not surprising because they don't really care about achieving equity so much as looking like they care.

And that is why this thread is so ugly. You don't even see how insulting and terrible those words are.

+1. Disgusting

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are people on this forum that should walk before the students of Herndon, Annandale, and Lewis, look those children in the eyes, and say, "I don't want my kid to go to school with you."

That's the message you're sending.

When you talk about community, you are saying that you don't want your children to be a part of the communities of Herndon, Annandale, and Lewis.

Because it's not the schools. It's not the teachers. People can make empty statements about "bringing programs to schools," but it's not the programs. It comes down to the fact that certain parents in FCPS don't want their kids to go to schools with the children at certain schools.

I wish this thread would shut down because it's full of ugliness. It's like we're repeating the 1960s, when parents didn't want schools to de-segregate. So much of the same language and behavior is being repeated here. It's ugly.

I want my kid at a school with other kids/families that value academics and other skills. The can rezone everyone but they can't stop people from selling their homes and moving to new neighborhoods. People's values are what drives their behavior and that will not change because FCPS tries to shake things up. If they truly are trying to rezone in order to achieve equity goals, they are going to be wasting a lot of time and energy on something that is going to backfire ultimately. But that's not surprising because they don't really care about achieving equity so much as looking like they care.

And that is why this thread is so ugly. You don't even see how insulting and terrible those words are.

+1. Disgusting

With your “Everyone against boundary changes is a MAGA-racist” views, I’d be willing to wager that you both were hand-picked to serve on the boundary review advisory committee.

[Anonymous]

I am strongly against this redistricting.

It is illegal to claim a residence when you do not live there. I would not do that.

Actually, I wonder if some of this is trolling by SB shils to make those against the boundary change look bad.