CEASEFIRE Announced

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Anonymous wrote:Below is a list of the Palestinians freed yesterday. Their names and stories are equally as important as the Israeli hostages returned yesterday.

9 of them are 17 or younger. Several on the list were freed in the November 2023 truce, only to have been re-arrested by Israel since then.

Nawal Fatiha, 23
Aseel Osama Shehada, 18
Tamara Abu Laban, 24
Jenin Mohammed Amr, 22
Nafisa Rashid Farid Zourba, 37
Khalida Kanaan Jarrar, 61
Yasmine Abdel-Rahman Abu Srour, 26
Fatima Nimr al-Rimawi, 52
Dalal Mohammed Suleiman Khasib (al-Arouri), 53
Fatima Mohammed Suleiman Saqr (al-Arouri), 48
Rana Jamal Mohammed Darbas, 35
Zahra Wahib Abdel-Fattah Khadraj, 52
Balqis Issa Ali Zawahra, 33
Duha Azzam Ahmad al-Wahsh, 29
Halima Fayeq Suleiman Abu Amara, 22
Mona Ahmed Qasim Abu Hussein, 46
Bushra Jamal Mohammed al-Tawil, 31
Raeda Ghanem Mohammed Abdel-Majeed Barghouti, 46
Murjana Mohammed Mustafa Hreish, 32
Walaa Khaled Tanji, 28
Rawda Musa al-Akhras (Abu Ajamiyeh), 47
Rula Ibrahim Abdel-Rahim Hassanein, 30
Ahmed Bashar Jumaa Abu Aliya, 18
Saja Zuhair al-Muaddi, 27
Shaimaa Mohammed Abdel-Jalil Rawajbeh, 25
Salwa Attiya Mahmoud Hamdan, 45
Rose Yousef Mohammed Khweis, 17
Fatima Youssef Mustafa Salha, 36
Haneen Akram al-Masaed, 30
Jihad Ghazi Ahmed Joudeh, 36
Nidaa Ali Ahmad Salah (al-Zughaibi), 37
Amal Ziyad Omar Shujaia, 21
Lubna Mazen Salim Talalweh, 46
Ola Mahmoud Qasim Azher (Jouda), 22
Ayat Yousef Saleh Mahfouz, 33
Hadeel Mohammed Hussein Hijaz (Shatara), 32
Wafa Ahmed Abdullah Nimr, 21
Rasha Ghassan Mohammed Hijjawi, 40
Zeina Majd Mohammed Barbar
Israa Khader Ahmed Ghneimat (Lafi), 40
Tahani Jamal Abed Ashour, 49
Aya Omar Youssef Ramadan, 23
Shaimaa Omar Youssef Ramadan, 19
Dunia Shtayyeh Marouf Shtayyeh, 20
Alaa Jad Nabhan Shaheen, 37
Nahil Kamal Mustafa Masalmeh, 37
Khitam Arif Hassan Habaybeh, 50
Aseel Mohammed Adnan Eid al-Yassini, 20
Alaa Samir Harb Abu Rahima, 27
Baraa Hatem Hafez Fuqaha, 25
Shatha Nawaf Jarabaa, 23
Dania Saqr Mohammed Hanatsheh, 22
Saja Imad Saad Daraghmeh, 19
Al-Yamama Ibrahim Hassan Hreinat, 21
Raghad Walid Mahmoud Amr, 24
Hanan Ammar Bilal Ma’alawani, 23
Raghad Khader Deeb Mubarak, 23
Ashwaq Mohammed Ayyad Awad, 23
Iman Ibrahim Ahmed Zaid, 40
Tahrir Badran Badr Jaber, 44
Abla Mohammed Othman Abdel-Rasoul (Sa’adat), 68
Israr Abdel-Fattah Mohammed al-Lahham, 42
Myassar Mohammed Saeed al-Faqih, 60
Abeer Mohammed Hamdan Ba’ara, 33
Samah Bilal Abdel-Rahman Souf (Hijjawi), 25
Margaret Mohammed Mahmoud al-Ra’i, 53
Latifa Khaled Ramadan Mashasha, 34
Israa Mustafa Mohammed Berri, 54
Alaa Khaled Mohammed Saqr al-Arouri, 21
Lana Farouk Naeem Fawalha, 25
Jamal Kaabneh, 18
Adam Hadara, 18
Mouadh Omar Abdullah al-Haj, 17
Ibrahim Sultan Ibrahim Zumour, 17
Abdel-Rahman Jamil Khudeir, 18
Saeed Mizyed Saeed Salim, 18
Mohammed Aman Fawzi Bishkar, 18
Issam Mamoun Abu Diab, 18
Thaer Ayoub Rashid Abu Sarah, 17
Fahmi Mohammed Fahmi Faroukh, 17
Qasim Iyad Mohammed Jaafreh, 17
Youssef Jamal Ayyad al-Hreimi
Firas Jihad Ahmed al-Maqdisi, 18
Abdel-Aziz Mohammed Atawneh, 19
Fadi Bassam Mohammed Hindi, 17
Osama Nasser Jibran Abed Ataya, 18
Ayham Ali Issa Jaradat, Sair, al-Khalil, 18
Mahmoud Mohammed Daoud Aleiwat, 15
Laith Mohammed Naji Kamil, 17
Ahmed Walid Mohammed Khashan, 18


Where are the backstories around why they were detained? I doubt Israel felt like providing free room and board for random Palestinians just so that they'd be safer and better fed than in Gaza.


GTFOH with that Nazi logic


So what's the backstory? Do you want us to believe these are randomly selected individuals chosen for preventive detention for no reason at all? None of them attacked anyone or engaged in violence of any kind, or broke any laws, or were identified conspiring to commit acts of violence? If you want to convince us, give us the details. Oh, you don't have any? You're just blustering because you don't have any facts and throwing out perjorative terms is your substitute for rational informed discourse? Sorry it's so frustrating to be presented with inconvenient facts.


The funny thing here is that you couldn’t provide a credible backstory to save your life - because they were held without charge, as just another evil, demented act of an evil, demented nation.
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Anonymous wrote:When will Hamas release those little boys they took hostage? They would be 2 and 5 now. I'm surprised they weren't the first to be released.


I think they are releasing living hostages first, likely those who present the best, so that the Hamas boosters can claim, “oh they are so well fed and taken care of!” The hamas boosters among us (the one who loves to mention spittle, the hasbera-screamer - maybe they are all the same Soviet-backed stooge(s)) all immediately played to the script with their oohs and aahs but anyway, I thought the agreement was for living hostages to be among the earlier releases.
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Anonymous wrote:Below is a list of the Palestinians freed yesterday. Their names and stories are equally as important as the Israeli hostages returned yesterday.

9 of them are 17 or younger. Several on the list were freed in the November 2023 truce, only to have been re-arrested by Israel since then.

Nawal Fatiha, 23
Aseel Osama Shehada, 18
Tamara Abu Laban, 24
Jenin Mohammed Amr, 22
Nafisa Rashid Farid Zourba, 37
Khalida Kanaan Jarrar, 61
Yasmine Abdel-Rahman Abu Srour, 26
Fatima Nimr al-Rimawi, 52
Dalal Mohammed Suleiman Khasib (al-Arouri), 53
Fatima Mohammed Suleiman Saqr (al-Arouri), 48
Rana Jamal Mohammed Darbas, 35
Zahra Wahib Abdel-Fattah Khadraj, 52
Balqis Issa Ali Zawahra, 33
Duha Azzam Ahmad al-Wahsh, 29
Halima Fayeq Suleiman Abu Amara, 22
Mona Ahmed Qasim Abu Hussein, 46
Bushra Jamal Mohammed al-Tawil, 31
Raeda Ghanem Mohammed Abdel-Majeed Barghouti, 46
Murjana Mohammed Mustafa Hreish, 32
Walaa Khaled Tanji, 28
Rawda Musa al-Akhras (Abu Ajamiyeh), 47
Rula Ibrahim Abdel-Rahim Hassanein, 30
Ahmed Bashar Jumaa Abu Aliya, 18
Saja Zuhair al-Muaddi, 27
Shaimaa Mohammed Abdel-Jalil Rawajbeh, 25
Salwa Attiya Mahmoud Hamdan, 45
Rose Yousef Mohammed Khweis, 17
Fatima Youssef Mustafa Salha, 36
Haneen Akram al-Masaed, 30
Jihad Ghazi Ahmed Joudeh, 36
Nidaa Ali Ahmad Salah (al-Zughaibi), 37
Amal Ziyad Omar Shujaia, 21
Lubna Mazen Salim Talalweh, 46
Ola Mahmoud Qasim Azher (Jouda), 22
Ayat Yousef Saleh Mahfouz, 33
Hadeel Mohammed Hussein Hijaz (Shatara), 32
Wafa Ahmed Abdullah Nimr, 21
Rasha Ghassan Mohammed Hijjawi, 40
Zeina Majd Mohammed Barbar
Israa Khader Ahmed Ghneimat (Lafi), 40
Tahani Jamal Abed Ashour, 49
Aya Omar Youssef Ramadan, 23
Shaimaa Omar Youssef Ramadan, 19
Dunia Shtayyeh Marouf Shtayyeh, 20
Alaa Jad Nabhan Shaheen, 37
Nahil Kamal Mustafa Masalmeh, 37
Khitam Arif Hassan Habaybeh, 50
Aseel Mohammed Adnan Eid al-Yassini, 20
Alaa Samir Harb Abu Rahima, 27
Baraa Hatem Hafez Fuqaha, 25
Shatha Nawaf Jarabaa, 23
Dania Saqr Mohammed Hanatsheh, 22
Saja Imad Saad Daraghmeh, 19
Al-Yamama Ibrahim Hassan Hreinat, 21
Raghad Walid Mahmoud Amr, 24
Hanan Ammar Bilal Ma’alawani, 23
Raghad Khader Deeb Mubarak, 23
Ashwaq Mohammed Ayyad Awad, 23
Iman Ibrahim Ahmed Zaid, 40
Tahrir Badran Badr Jaber, 44
Abla Mohammed Othman Abdel-Rasoul (Sa’adat), 68
Israr Abdel-Fattah Mohammed al-Lahham, 42
Myassar Mohammed Saeed al-Faqih, 60
Abeer Mohammed Hamdan Ba’ara, 33
Samah Bilal Abdel-Rahman Souf (Hijjawi), 25
Margaret Mohammed Mahmoud al-Ra’i, 53
Latifa Khaled Ramadan Mashasha, 34
Israa Mustafa Mohammed Berri, 54
Alaa Khaled Mohammed Saqr al-Arouri, 21
Lana Farouk Naeem Fawalha, 25
Jamal Kaabneh, 18
Adam Hadara, 18
Mouadh Omar Abdullah al-Haj, 17
Ibrahim Sultan Ibrahim Zumour, 17
Abdel-Rahman Jamil Khudeir, 18
Saeed Mizyed Saeed Salim, 18
Mohammed Aman Fawzi Bishkar, 18
Issam Mamoun Abu Diab, 18
Thaer Ayoub Rashid Abu Sarah, 17
Fahmi Mohammed Fahmi Faroukh, 17
Qasim Iyad Mohammed Jaafreh, 17
Youssef Jamal Ayyad al-Hreimi
Firas Jihad Ahmed al-Maqdisi, 18
Abdel-Aziz Mohammed Atawneh, 19
Fadi Bassam Mohammed Hindi, 17
Osama Nasser Jibran Abed Ataya, 18
Ayham Ali Issa Jaradat, Sair, al-Khalil, 18
Mahmoud Mohammed Daoud Aleiwat, 15
Laith Mohammed Naji Kamil, 17
Ahmed Walid Mohammed Khashan, 18


Where are the backstories around why they were detained? I doubt Israel felt like providing free room and board for random Palestinians just so that they'd be safer and better fed than in Gaza.


GTFOH with that Nazi logic


So what's the backstory? Do you want us to believe these are randomly selected individuals chosen for preventive detention for no reason at all? None of them attacked anyone or engaged in violence of any kind, or broke any laws, or were identified conspiring to commit acts of violence? If you want to convince us, give us the details. Oh, you don't have any? You're just blustering because you don't have any facts and throwing out perjorative terms is your substitute for rational informed discourse? Sorry it's so frustrating to be presented with inconvenient facts.


The funny thing here is that you couldn’t provide a credible backstory to save your life - because they were held without charge, as just another evil, demented act of an evil, demented nation.


You mean evil and demented like Hamas? Or you claim they are neither evil nor demented?
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Anonymous wrote:Below is a list of the Palestinians freed yesterday. Their names and stories are equally as important as the Israeli hostages returned yesterday.

9 of them are 17 or younger. Several on the list were freed in the November 2023 truce, only to have been re-arrested by Israel since then.

Nawal Fatiha, 23
Aseel Osama Shehada, 18
Tamara Abu Laban, 24
Jenin Mohammed Amr, 22
Nafisa Rashid Farid Zourba, 37
Khalida Kanaan Jarrar, 61
Yasmine Abdel-Rahman Abu Srour, 26
Fatima Nimr al-Rimawi, 52
Dalal Mohammed Suleiman Khasib (al-Arouri), 53
Fatima Mohammed Suleiman Saqr (al-Arouri), 48
Rana Jamal Mohammed Darbas, 35
Zahra Wahib Abdel-Fattah Khadraj, 52
Balqis Issa Ali Zawahra, 33
Duha Azzam Ahmad al-Wahsh, 29
Halima Fayeq Suleiman Abu Amara, 22
Mona Ahmed Qasim Abu Hussein, 46
Bushra Jamal Mohammed al-Tawil, 31
Raeda Ghanem Mohammed Abdel-Majeed Barghouti, 46
Murjana Mohammed Mustafa Hreish, 32
Walaa Khaled Tanji, 28
Rawda Musa al-Akhras (Abu Ajamiyeh), 47
Rula Ibrahim Abdel-Rahim Hassanein, 30
Ahmed Bashar Jumaa Abu Aliya, 18
Saja Zuhair al-Muaddi, 27
Shaimaa Mohammed Abdel-Jalil Rawajbeh, 25
Salwa Attiya Mahmoud Hamdan, 45
Rose Yousef Mohammed Khweis, 17
Fatima Youssef Mustafa Salha, 36
Haneen Akram al-Masaed, 30
Jihad Ghazi Ahmed Joudeh, 36
Nidaa Ali Ahmad Salah (al-Zughaibi), 37
Amal Ziyad Omar Shujaia, 21
Lubna Mazen Salim Talalweh, 46
Ola Mahmoud Qasim Azher (Jouda), 22
Ayat Yousef Saleh Mahfouz, 33
Hadeel Mohammed Hussein Hijaz (Shatara), 32
Wafa Ahmed Abdullah Nimr, 21
Rasha Ghassan Mohammed Hijjawi, 40
Zeina Majd Mohammed Barbar
Israa Khader Ahmed Ghneimat (Lafi), 40
Tahani Jamal Abed Ashour, 49
Aya Omar Youssef Ramadan, 23
Shaimaa Omar Youssef Ramadan, 19
Dunia Shtayyeh Marouf Shtayyeh, 20
Alaa Jad Nabhan Shaheen, 37
Nahil Kamal Mustafa Masalmeh, 37
Khitam Arif Hassan Habaybeh, 50
Aseel Mohammed Adnan Eid al-Yassini, 20
Alaa Samir Harb Abu Rahima, 27
Baraa Hatem Hafez Fuqaha, 25
Shatha Nawaf Jarabaa, 23
Dania Saqr Mohammed Hanatsheh, 22
Saja Imad Saad Daraghmeh, 19
Al-Yamama Ibrahim Hassan Hreinat, 21
Raghad Walid Mahmoud Amr, 24
Hanan Ammar Bilal Ma’alawani, 23
Raghad Khader Deeb Mubarak, 23
Ashwaq Mohammed Ayyad Awad, 23
Iman Ibrahim Ahmed Zaid, 40
Tahrir Badran Badr Jaber, 44
Abla Mohammed Othman Abdel-Rasoul (Sa’adat), 68
Israr Abdel-Fattah Mohammed al-Lahham, 42
Myassar Mohammed Saeed al-Faqih, 60
Abeer Mohammed Hamdan Ba’ara, 33
Samah Bilal Abdel-Rahman Souf (Hijjawi), 25
Margaret Mohammed Mahmoud al-Ra’i, 53
Latifa Khaled Ramadan Mashasha, 34
Israa Mustafa Mohammed Berri, 54
Alaa Khaled Mohammed Saqr al-Arouri, 21
Lana Farouk Naeem Fawalha, 25
Jamal Kaabneh, 18
Adam Hadara, 18
Mouadh Omar Abdullah al-Haj, 17
Ibrahim Sultan Ibrahim Zumour, 17
Abdel-Rahman Jamil Khudeir, 18
Saeed Mizyed Saeed Salim, 18
Mohammed Aman Fawzi Bishkar, 18
Issam Mamoun Abu Diab, 18
Thaer Ayoub Rashid Abu Sarah, 17
Fahmi Mohammed Fahmi Faroukh, 17
Qasim Iyad Mohammed Jaafreh, 17
Youssef Jamal Ayyad al-Hreimi
Firas Jihad Ahmed al-Maqdisi, 18
Abdel-Aziz Mohammed Atawneh, 19
Fadi Bassam Mohammed Hindi, 17
Osama Nasser Jibran Abed Ataya, 18
Ayham Ali Issa Jaradat, Sair, al-Khalil, 18
Mahmoud Mohammed Daoud Aleiwat, 15
Laith Mohammed Naji Kamil, 17
Ahmed Walid Mohammed Khashan, 18


Where are the backstories around why they were detained? I doubt Israel felt like providing free room and board for random Palestinians just so that they'd be safer and better fed than in Gaza.


GTFOH with that Nazi logic


So what's the backstory? Do you want us to believe these are randomly selected individuals chosen for preventive detention for no reason at all? None of them attacked anyone or engaged in violence of any kind, or broke any laws, or were identified conspiring to commit acts of violence? If you want to convince us, give us the details. Oh, you don't have any? You're just blustering because you don't have any facts and throwing out perjorative terms is your substitute for rational informed discourse? Sorry it's so frustrating to be presented with inconvenient facts.


The funny thing here is that you couldn’t provide a credible backstory to save your life - because they were held without charge, as just another evil, demented act of an evil, demented nation.


You mean evil and demented like Hamas? Or you claim they are neither evil nor demented?


You clearly claim Israel is neither demented or evil despite all the evidence provided. So what’s the point.

Hopefully trump’s distaste for war and budget slashing will end this unnecessary alliance with an apartheid state committing genocide.
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Anonymous wrote:When will Hamas release those little boys they took hostage? They would be 2 and 5 now. I'm surprised they weren't the first to be released.


Me too but I wonder if they were killed by an IDF bomb? Or perhaps they were killed en route to Gaza (wasn’t IDF firing at them?). I also imagine there was such chaos and breaks in communication it’s possible that Hamas leadership does not know where they are. Hopefully now with the ceasefire there is breathing space for this to be figured out. If Israel was truly interested in the hostages, they should have signed the ceasefire deal months ago.


Or maybe Hamas shouldn't have taken babies and toddlers hostage. Pretty sure those little kids and all the other people that have died since October 7th would be alive today if Hamas and their supporters weren't such monsters. I mean who takes babies hostage for goodness sake. Absolute scum.


I hope you care also about Palestinian babies.

Like the premature babies at al-Nasr Children's Hospital. When the staff was forced by the IDF to evacuate (by literal death threats to the doctors), they were left behind because they did not have the ability to safely transport premature babies and the staff received assurances from an Israeli official (on a recorded call) that the babies would be rescued.

They did not. The babies died alone in the hospital. And then their bodies were eaten by stray dogs.

And the journalist who broke the story, Mohammed Balousha, was later killed by the IDF.



I do care very much about Palestinian children. Which makes it all so tragic. What did Hamas and their supporters gain by invading Israel and committing all those atrocities? What was the purpose? I can see that Hamas and their supporters are declaring victory while standing in the rubble of Gaza. Really? This is what Palestinians in Gaza see as a victory? It all seems very sad and pathetic to me. Until Palestinians turn on Hamas I don't think there's much of a future for Palestinian children in Gaza. It's going to be grim for years until Palestinians choose leadership that actually cares about the future. But right now, Palestinian adults seem consumed by Islamic extremism and reflexive terrorism. You'd think after 70 years, they'd try something different. But instead they choose to support Hamas, which only leads to destruction. They clearly don't care about the future for Palestinian children. It's a tragedy.


Agreed. I want to wash my hands of the whole area. Hamas are monsters. The ultra orthodox and settlers are monsters. I don’t want any of them getting American tax money or support. And I want their supporters in the US who aren’t citizens deported. Lets get rid of these bloodthirsty cretins.

I’m willing to give smaller sums of money to Israel to support a US military presence, because routing money to places that view women as lower status than livestock (Saudi Arabia, Palestine, etc) is not acceptable and geopolitically the US needs a presence. But this open pocketbook approach has to stop.


Live and learn: https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/campaigns/2018/10/gaza-great-march-of-return/


Oh, another thing I’ve learned in the past year is that I will never trust Amnesty International again. I should have mentioned that.


Why? Not pro Israel enough?


The obvious lying just became too much. They’ve just shown themselves to be untrustworthy. I used to be a regular donor too, I think it’s a pity how much of a grossly politicized organization they’ve become. I trust them about as much as I trust Hamas or the IDF.

To be clear, I am not a supporter of Israel. I want minimal American dollars going there, just enough to buy some military support because the US does need a spot in the region as an ally, and I don’t want us allying with groups and countries that view women as lower value than dairy cows (Saudi Arabia, Palestine, etc). Other than that minimal and necessary support, I have no interest in funding Israeli/Palestinian warring; they’re all despicable.

If another ally opens up in the Middle East where women aren’t chattel slaves, I’d be fine with switching allegiance. I dislike a lot about current Israel and am uninterested in supporting Netanyahu, who does not benefit the US at all.


Countries that view women as dairy cows? That’s some hasbera if I ever heard it. I bet you don’t even know a single person from the Gulf or Levant. You believe that because that’s what the Zionists have conditioned you to believe. What does the status of women have to do with US political decisions? Do you know how women are treated in South Asia? South East Asia? Saharan and sub Saharan Africa? Many of which are US allies.


To misogynists, nothing. That’s precisely the issue. I realize you would like to keep women as chattel, I understand, but in the US at least I have a vote and can use it. And I don’t want to support countries that treat women worse than livestock.

And yes, women elsewhere are also treated as less than livestock. I wonder what all those places you list have in common. Truly a mystery, really.
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Anonymous wrote:When will Hamas release those little boys they took hostage? They would be 2 and 5 now. I'm surprised they weren't the first to be released.


Me too but I wonder if they were killed by an IDF bomb? Or perhaps they were killed en route to Gaza (wasn’t IDF firing at them?). I also imagine there was such chaos and breaks in communication it’s possible that Hamas leadership does not know where they are. Hopefully now with the ceasefire there is breathing space for this to be figured out. If Israel was truly interested in the hostages, they should have signed the ceasefire deal months ago.


Or maybe Hamas shouldn't have taken babies and toddlers hostage. Pretty sure those little kids and all the other people that have died since October 7th would be alive today if Hamas and their supporters weren't such monsters. I mean who takes babies hostage for goodness sake. Absolute scum.


I hope you care also about Palestinian babies.

Like the premature babies at al-Nasr Children's Hospital. When the staff was forced by the IDF to evacuate (by literal death threats to the doctors), they were left behind because they did not have the ability to safely transport premature babies and the staff received assurances from an Israeli official (on a recorded call) that the babies would be rescued.

They did not. The babies died alone in the hospital. And then their bodies were eaten by stray dogs.

And the journalist who broke the story, Mohammed Balousha, was later killed by the IDF.



I do care very much about Palestinian children. Which makes it all so tragic. What did Hamas and their supporters gain by invading Israel and committing all those atrocities? What was the purpose? I can see that Hamas and their supporters are declaring victory while standing in the rubble of Gaza. Really? This is what Palestinians in Gaza see as a victory? It all seems very sad and pathetic to me. Until Palestinians turn on Hamas I don't think there's much of a future for Palestinian children in Gaza. It's going to be grim for years until Palestinians choose leadership that actually cares about the future. But right now, Palestinian adults seem consumed by Islamic extremism and reflexive terrorism. You'd think after 70 years, they'd try something different. But instead they choose to support Hamas, which only leads to destruction. They clearly don't care about the future for Palestinian children. It's a tragedy.


Agreed. I want to wash my hands of the whole area. Hamas are monsters. The ultra orthodox and settlers are monsters. I don’t want any of them getting American tax money or support. And I want their supporters in the US who aren’t citizens deported. Lets get rid of these bloodthirsty cretins.

I’m willing to give smaller sums of money to Israel to support a US military presence, because routing money to places that view women as lower status than livestock (Saudi Arabia, Palestine, etc) is not acceptable and geopolitically the US needs a presence. But this open pocketbook approach has to stop.


Live and learn: https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/campaigns/2018/10/gaza-great-march-of-return/


Oh, another thing I’ve learned in the past year is that I will never trust Amnesty International again. I should have mentioned that.


Why? Not pro Israel enough?


The obvious lying just became too much. They’ve just shown themselves to be untrustworthy. I used to be a regular donor too, I think it’s a pity how much of a grossly politicized organization they’ve become. I trust them about as much as I trust Hamas or the IDF.

To be clear, I am not a supporter of Israel. I want minimal American dollars going there, just enough to buy some military support because the US does need a spot in the region as an ally, and I don’t want us allying with groups and countries that view women as lower value than dairy cows (Saudi Arabia, Palestine, etc). Other than that minimal and necessary support, I have no interest in funding Israeli/Palestinian warring; they’re all despicable.

If another ally opens up in the Middle East where women aren’t chattel slaves, I’d be fine with switching allegiance. I dislike a lot about current Israel and am uninterested in supporting Netanyahu, who does not benefit the US at all.


Countries that view women as dairy cows? That’s some hasbera if I ever heard it. I bet you don’t even know a single person from the Gulf or Levant. You believe that because that’s what the Zionists have conditioned you to believe. What does the status of women have to do with US political decisions? Do you know how women are treated in South Asia? South East Asia? Saharan and sub Saharan Africa? Many of which are US allies.


To misogynists, nothing. That’s precisely the issue. I realize you would like to keep women as chattel, I understand, but in the US at least I have a vote and can use it. And I don’t want to support countries that treat women worse than livestock.

And yes, women elsewhere are also treated as less than livestock. I wonder what all those places you list have in common. Truly a mystery, really.


Oh please white woman come and show us brown folks how to live. Please tell us what we do wrong and correct our errors so we to can pay half for everything and have useless husbands. I want to eat microwaved processed food and drink wine by myself at night too!

FYI the western way of life isn’t the only way or best way to live. As long as women have a choice that’s what matters. And you’re a racist.
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Hey Israel thanks for Trump!
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Anonymous wrote:When will Hamas release those little boys they took hostage? They would be 2 and 5 now. I'm surprised they weren't the first to be released.


Me too but I wonder if they were killed by an IDF bomb? Or perhaps they were killed en route to Gaza (wasn’t IDF firing at them?). I also imagine there was such chaos and breaks in communication it’s possible that Hamas leadership does not know where they are. Hopefully now with the ceasefire there is breathing space for this to be figured out. If Israel was truly interested in the hostages, they should have signed the ceasefire deal months ago.


Or maybe Hamas shouldn't have taken babies and toddlers hostage. Pretty sure those little kids and all the other people that have died since October 7th would be alive today if Hamas and their supporters weren't such monsters. I mean who takes babies hostage for goodness sake. Absolute scum.


I hope you care also about Palestinian babies.

Like the premature babies at al-Nasr Children's Hospital. When the staff was forced by the IDF to evacuate (by literal death threats to the doctors), they were left behind because they did not have the ability to safely transport premature babies and the staff received assurances from an Israeli official (on a recorded call) that the babies would be rescued.

They did not. The babies died alone in the hospital. And then their bodies were eaten by stray dogs.

And the journalist who broke the story, Mohammed Balousha, was later killed by the IDF.



I do care very much about Palestinian children. Which makes it all so tragic. What did Hamas and their supporters gain by invading Israel and committing all those atrocities? What was the purpose? I can see that Hamas and their supporters are declaring victory while standing in the rubble of Gaza. Really? This is what Palestinians in Gaza see as a victory? It all seems very sad and pathetic to me. Until Palestinians turn on Hamas I don't think there's much of a future for Palestinian children in Gaza. It's going to be grim for years until Palestinians choose leadership that actually cares about the future. But right now, Palestinian adults seem consumed by Islamic extremism and reflexive terrorism. You'd think after 70 years, they'd try something different. But instead they choose to support Hamas, which only leads to destruction. They clearly don't care about the future for Palestinian children. It's a tragedy.


Agreed. I want to wash my hands of the whole area. Hamas are monsters. The ultra orthodox and settlers are monsters. I don’t want any of them getting American tax money or support. And I want their supporters in the US who aren’t citizens deported. Lets get rid of these bloodthirsty cretins.

I’m willing to give smaller sums of money to Israel to support a US military presence, because routing money to places that view women as lower status than livestock (Saudi Arabia, Palestine, etc) is not acceptable and geopolitically the US needs a presence. But this open pocketbook approach has to stop.


Live and learn: https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/campaigns/2018/10/gaza-great-march-of-return/


Oh, another thing I’ve learned in the past year is that I will never trust Amnesty International again. I should have mentioned that.


Why? Not pro Israel enough?


The obvious lying just became too much. They’ve just shown themselves to be untrustworthy. I used to be a regular donor too, I think it’s a pity how much of a grossly politicized organization they’ve become. I trust them about as much as I trust Hamas or the IDF.

To be clear, I am not a supporter of Israel. I want minimal American dollars going there, just enough to buy some military support because the US does need a spot in the region as an ally, and I don’t want us allying with groups and countries that view women as lower value than dairy cows (Saudi Arabia, Palestine, etc). Other than that minimal and necessary support, I have no interest in funding Israeli/Palestinian warring; they’re all despicable.

If another ally opens up in the Middle East where women aren’t chattel slaves, I’d be fine with switching allegiance. I dislike a lot about current Israel and am uninterested in supporting Netanyahu, who does not benefit the US at all.


Countries that view women as dairy cows? That’s some hasbera if I ever heard it. I bet you don’t even know a single person from the Gulf or Levant. You believe that because that’s what the Zionists have conditioned you to believe. What does the status of women have to do with US political decisions? Do you know how women are treated in South Asia? South East Asia? Saharan and sub Saharan Africa? Many of which are US allies.


To misogynists, nothing. That’s precisely the issue. I realize you would like to keep women as chattel, I understand, but in the US at least I have a vote and can use it. And I don’t want to support countries that treat women worse than livestock.

And yes, women elsewhere are also treated as less than livestock. I wonder what all those places you list have in common. Truly a mystery, really.


Oh please white woman come and show us brown folks how to live. Please tell us what we do wrong and correct our errors so we to can pay half for everything and have useless husbands. I want to eat microwaved processed food and drink wine by myself at night too!

FYI the western way of life isn’t the only way or best way to live. As long as women have a choice that’s what matters. And you’re a racist.


I have no desire to show anyone anything. I don’t want my tax money going to support regimes or groups that violently oppress women and consider them less valuable than livestock. You want that, that’s your choice, if you are an American citizen you can vote for candidates that support that. You can name call all you want in an effort to hide the violent misogyny you support. I absolutely do not care what you think.

I don’t want to support Israel either, apart from whatever minimal strategic support is needed. The sooner the US can remove itself entirely from that region of the world, the better.
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Anonymous wrote:When will Hamas release those little boys they took hostage? They would be 2 and 5 now. I'm surprised they weren't the first to be released.


I think they are releasing living hostages first, likely those who present the best, so that the Hamas boosters can claim, “oh they are so well fed and taken care of!” The hamas boosters among us (the one who loves to mention spittle, the hasbera-screamer - maybe they are all the same Soviet-backed stooge(s)) all immediately played to the script with their oohs and aahs but anyway, I thought the agreement was for living hostages to be among the earlier releases.


Hasbera screamer, confirming that I’m not a Soviet backed stooge. Also confirming that my 16 year old cousin was raped by the IDF in 2021 (shockingly she’s not Hamas for the deranged Zionists on here). Also confirming that so far 4 of my non-Hamas family members have also died in the conflict. Luckily the rest were able to leave, or had already left due to miserable apartheid conditions.
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Anonymous wrote:Below is a list of the Palestinians freed yesterday. Their names and stories are equally as important as the Israeli hostages returned yesterday.

9 of them are 17 or younger. Several on the list were freed in the November 2023 truce, only to have been re-arrested by Israel since then.

Nawal Fatiha, 23
Aseel Osama Shehada, 18
Tamara Abu Laban, 24
Jenin Mohammed Amr, 22
Nafisa Rashid Farid Zourba, 37
Khalida Kanaan Jarrar, 61
Yasmine Abdel-Rahman Abu Srour, 26
Fatima Nimr al-Rimawi, 52
Dalal Mohammed Suleiman Khasib (al-Arouri), 53
Fatima Mohammed Suleiman Saqr (al-Arouri), 48
Rana Jamal Mohammed Darbas, 35
Zahra Wahib Abdel-Fattah Khadraj, 52
Balqis Issa Ali Zawahra, 33
Duha Azzam Ahmad al-Wahsh, 29
Halima Fayeq Suleiman Abu Amara, 22
Mona Ahmed Qasim Abu Hussein, 46
Bushra Jamal Mohammed al-Tawil, 31
Raeda Ghanem Mohammed Abdel-Majeed Barghouti, 46
Murjana Mohammed Mustafa Hreish, 32
Walaa Khaled Tanji, 28
Rawda Musa al-Akhras (Abu Ajamiyeh), 47
Rula Ibrahim Abdel-Rahim Hassanein, 30
Ahmed Bashar Jumaa Abu Aliya, 18
Saja Zuhair al-Muaddi, 27
Shaimaa Mohammed Abdel-Jalil Rawajbeh, 25
Salwa Attiya Mahmoud Hamdan, 45
Rose Yousef Mohammed Khweis, 17
Fatima Youssef Mustafa Salha, 36
Haneen Akram al-Masaed, 30
Jihad Ghazi Ahmed Joudeh, 36
Nidaa Ali Ahmad Salah (al-Zughaibi), 37
Amal Ziyad Omar Shujaia, 21
Lubna Mazen Salim Talalweh, 46
Ola Mahmoud Qasim Azher (Jouda), 22
Ayat Yousef Saleh Mahfouz, 33
Hadeel Mohammed Hussein Hijaz (Shatara), 32
Wafa Ahmed Abdullah Nimr, 21
Rasha Ghassan Mohammed Hijjawi, 40
Zeina Majd Mohammed Barbar
Israa Khader Ahmed Ghneimat (Lafi), 40
Tahani Jamal Abed Ashour, 49
Aya Omar Youssef Ramadan, 23
Shaimaa Omar Youssef Ramadan, 19
Dunia Shtayyeh Marouf Shtayyeh, 20
Alaa Jad Nabhan Shaheen, 37
Nahil Kamal Mustafa Masalmeh, 37
Khitam Arif Hassan Habaybeh, 50
Aseel Mohammed Adnan Eid al-Yassini, 20
Alaa Samir Harb Abu Rahima, 27
Baraa Hatem Hafez Fuqaha, 25
Shatha Nawaf Jarabaa, 23
Dania Saqr Mohammed Hanatsheh, 22
Saja Imad Saad Daraghmeh, 19
Al-Yamama Ibrahim Hassan Hreinat, 21
Raghad Walid Mahmoud Amr, 24
Hanan Ammar Bilal Ma’alawani, 23
Raghad Khader Deeb Mubarak, 23
Ashwaq Mohammed Ayyad Awad, 23
Iman Ibrahim Ahmed Zaid, 40
Tahrir Badran Badr Jaber, 44
Abla Mohammed Othman Abdel-Rasoul (Sa’adat), 68
Israr Abdel-Fattah Mohammed al-Lahham, 42
Myassar Mohammed Saeed al-Faqih, 60
Abeer Mohammed Hamdan Ba’ara, 33
Samah Bilal Abdel-Rahman Souf (Hijjawi), 25
Margaret Mohammed Mahmoud al-Ra’i, 53
Latifa Khaled Ramadan Mashasha, 34
Israa Mustafa Mohammed Berri, 54
Alaa Khaled Mohammed Saqr al-Arouri, 21
Lana Farouk Naeem Fawalha, 25
Jamal Kaabneh, 18
Adam Hadara, 18
Mouadh Omar Abdullah al-Haj, 17
Ibrahim Sultan Ibrahim Zumour, 17
Abdel-Rahman Jamil Khudeir, 18
Saeed Mizyed Saeed Salim, 18
Mohammed Aman Fawzi Bishkar, 18
Issam Mamoun Abu Diab, 18
Thaer Ayoub Rashid Abu Sarah, 17
Fahmi Mohammed Fahmi Faroukh, 17
Qasim Iyad Mohammed Jaafreh, 17
Youssef Jamal Ayyad al-Hreimi
Firas Jihad Ahmed al-Maqdisi, 18
Abdel-Aziz Mohammed Atawneh, 19
Fadi Bassam Mohammed Hindi, 17
Osama Nasser Jibran Abed Ataya, 18
Ayham Ali Issa Jaradat, Sair, al-Khalil, 18
Mahmoud Mohammed Daoud Aleiwat, 15
Laith Mohammed Naji Kamil, 17
Ahmed Walid Mohammed Khashan, 18


Where are the backstories around why they were detained? I doubt Israel felt like providing free room and board for random Palestinians just so that they'd be safer and better fed than in Gaza.


GTFOH with that Nazi logic


So what's the backstory? Do you want us to believe these are randomly selected individuals chosen for preventive detention for no reason at all? None of them attacked anyone or engaged in violence of any kind, or broke any laws, or were identified conspiring to commit acts of violence? If you want to convince us, give us the details. Oh, you don't have any? You're just blustering because you don't have any facts and throwing out perjorative terms is your substitute for rational informed discourse? Sorry it's so frustrating to be presented with inconvenient facts.


The funny thing here is that you couldn’t provide a credible backstory to save your life - because they were held without charge, as just another evil, demented act of an evil, demented nation.


You mean evil and demented like Hamas? Or you claim they are neither evil nor demented?


Of course Hamas is evil and demented. Keeping you and the rest of the radical, extremist Zionists company.

Sorry to disappoint your propaganda objective, though I’m sure you’ll continue to besmirch me and others opposed to Israel’s atrocities as “pro Hamas” - despite the fact that we have repeatedly dunked on your pathetic whataboutism by unequivocally denouncing Hamas.
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Anonymous wrote:Why did Biden waste so much time and resources on Israeli citizens? He threw away the democrats chances for the “hostages” who are not even Americans.

In the end what did Biden get for making the US subservient to Israel? A humiliating in kick in the crotch and a knife in the back. What a fool.


Watching that group of men filled with bloodlust trying to attack three women doesn’t really make me have any inclination to support the other side, though.

I mean, I agree with you, but I sure as heck don’t want to be supporting the Palestinians now either.


Bloodlust that was magically contained for the last 14 months?

I personally just noticed how well fed they looked.



And I personally noticed that one of the hostages was missing her fingers

You Hamas supporters are something else.


She lost these on Oct 7


The hostage lost those fingers herself, says the poster doing propaganda for the men who mutilated her.
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I wonder why the Thai hostages have not been released. There are still six Thai hostages being held by Hamas. Unclear what Hamas hopes to gain by continuing to hold them or what the benefit to holding Thai hostages might be.
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So what we have here is one frustrated Hamas-lover (how do you like that for name-calling? Adult mature behavior, right? And totally guaranteed to change hearts and minds about you, and to suddenly find your pronouncements both accurate and persuasive), unable to actually provide a rational argument but happy to proclaim "facts" about IDF and Israeli "atrocities", while never addressing the core question - what has Gaza gained for their adventurism? What was worth 47K+ dead Palestinians and the destruction of the Gazan infrastructure? How has the Gazan situation changed for the better as the result of Hamas' murder, rape and kidnapping spree?

The answer is simple, and easily articulated by anyone who is honest. It has nothing to do with Zionists, Nazis, hasbara, nakbas, apartheid, or other words used to sidestep and avoid the answer. The answer is: Not just nothing, but worse than nothing. The Gazans and Hamas not only achieved nothing apart from the murders, rapes and kidnappings of innocents, but they actively made their condition immeasurably worse. They brought the wrath of Israel down on their heads, and reaped the whirlwind.

The ceasefire, if it holds, will cap off a period of entirely self-inflicted damage to Gaza and to the population there. When it is inevitably broken by Hamas, which after all exists only to work towards Israel's destruction and not to build a better world through peace, we'll undoubtedly hear more about Nazis, Zionists, hasbara, nakba, apartheid, etc as rationales for another round of self-destruction.

Look in the mirror, Hamas-lover, for the answer to the question of why there has been so much death and destruction in Gaza since Oct 7. You and yours are the cause.
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Anonymous wrote:So what we have here is one frustrated Hamas-lover (how do you like that for name-calling? Adult mature behavior, right? And totally guaranteed to change hearts and minds about you, and to suddenly find your pronouncements both accurate and persuasive), unable to actually provide a rational argument but happy to proclaim "facts" about IDF and Israeli "atrocities", while never addressing the core question - what has Gaza gained for their adventurism? What was worth 47K+ dead Palestinians and the destruction of the Gazan infrastructure? How has the Gazan situation changed for the better as the result of Hamas' murder, rape and kidnapping spree?

The answer is simple, and easily articulated by anyone who is honest. It has nothing to do with Zionists, Nazis, hasbara, nakbas, apartheid, or other words used to sidestep and avoid the answer. The answer is: Not just nothing, but worse than nothing. The Gazans and Hamas not only achieved nothing apart from the murders, rapes and kidnappings of innocents, but they actively made their condition immeasurably worse. They brought the wrath of Israel down on their heads, and reaped the whirlwind.

The ceasefire, if it holds, will cap off a period of entirely self-inflicted damage to Gaza and to the population there. When it is inevitably broken by Hamas, which after all exists only to work towards Israel's destruction and not to build a better world through peace, we'll undoubtedly hear more about Nazis, Zionists, hasbara, nakba, apartheid, etc as rationales for another round of self-destruction.

Look in the mirror, Hamas-lover, for the answer to the question of why there has been so much death and destruction in Gaza since Oct 7. You and yours are the cause.


Zionist hasbera to diminish resistance to occupation and apartheid. Ask yourself the same question of the struggle to end apartheid/oppressive systems across the globe? Should those movements have never bothered because it took decades to achieve justice? Look in the mirror and ask yourself that question - oh wait you’re probably racist and agree with violent settler occupation, slavery and colonialism.
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Anonymous wrote:So what we have here is one frustrated Hamas-lover (how do you like that for name-calling? Adult mature behavior, right? And totally guaranteed to change hearts and minds about you, and to suddenly find your pronouncements both accurate and persuasive), unable to actually provide a rational argument but happy to proclaim "facts" about IDF and Israeli "atrocities", while never addressing the core question - what has Gaza gained for their adventurism? What was worth 47K+ dead Palestinians and the destruction of the Gazan infrastructure? How has the Gazan situation changed for the better as the result of Hamas' murder, rape and kidnapping spree?

The answer is simple, and easily articulated by anyone who is honest. It has nothing to do with Zionists, Nazis, hasbara, nakbas, apartheid, or other words used to sidestep and avoid the answer. The answer is: Not just nothing, but worse than nothing. The Gazans and Hamas not only achieved nothing apart from the murders, rapes and kidnappings of innocents, but they actively made their condition immeasurably worse. They brought the wrath of Israel down on their heads, and reaped the whirlwind.

The ceasefire, if it holds, will cap off a period of entirely self-inflicted damage to Gaza and to the population there. When it is inevitably broken by Hamas, which after all exists only to work towards Israel's destruction and not to build a better world through peace, we'll undoubtedly hear more about Nazis, Zionists, hasbara, nakba, apartheid, etc as rationales for another round of self-destruction.

Look in the mirror, Hamas-lover, for the answer to the question of why there has been so much death and destruction in Gaza since Oct 7. You and yours are the cause.


DP

What is your point? Do you think that others will read your repeated rants and believe you that a boogeyman is here to tout the virtues of Hamas, when literally nobody has done that in thousands upon thousands of pages here related to this conflict. Not a single post has praised Hamas or expressed love for Hamas.

Everyone denounces and despises Hamas. EVERYONE.

That fact does NOTHING to diminish the fact that Israel and radical, extremist Zionists like you are also subject to criticism and contempt. Despite your fervent desires, acknowledging that Hamas is despicable does not automatically absolve Israel and radical, extremist POS clowns like you of your sins, which are actually worse by several orders of magnitude.

Of course, you’re an underhanded POS like everyone who blindly, unconditionally supports this Israeli government, programmed to lie and distort the intentions and motivations of those who threaten to shed light on your root cause role in so much of the world’s conflict.

Consider reform.
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