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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]When will Hamas release those little boys they took hostage? They would be 2 and 5 now. I'm surprised they weren't the first to be released. [/quote]

Me too but I wonder if they were killed by an IDF bomb? Or perhaps they were killed en route to Gaza (wasn’t IDF firing at them?).  I also imagine there was such chaos and breaks in communication it’s possible that Hamas leadership does not know where they are.  Hopefully now with the ceasefire there is breathing space for this to be figured out.  If Israel was truly interested in the hostages, they should have signed the ceasefire deal months ago. [/quote]

Or maybe Hamas shouldn't have taken babies and toddlers hostage. Pretty sure those little kids and all the other people that have died since October 7th would be alive today if Hamas and their supporters weren't such monsters. I mean who takes babies hostage for goodness sake. Absolute scum. [/quote]

I hope you care also about Palestinian babies.

Like the premature babies at al-Nasr Children's Hospital. When the staff was forced by the IDF to evacuate (by literal death threats to the doctors), they were left behind because they did not have the ability to safely transport premature babies and the staff received assurances from an Israeli official (on a recorded call) that the babies would be rescued.

They did not. The babies died alone in the hospital. And then their bodies were eaten by stray dogs.

And the journalist who broke the story, Mohammed Balousha, was later killed by the IDF.[/quote]

I do care very much about Palestinian children. Which makes it all so tragic. What did Hamas and their supporters gain by invading Israel and committing all those atrocities? What was the purpose? I can see that Hamas and their supporters are declaring victory while standing in the rubble of Gaza. Really? This is what Palestinians in Gaza see as a victory? It all seems very sad and pathetic to me. Until Palestinians turn on Hamas I don't think there's much of a future for Palestinian children in Gaza. It's going to be grim for years until Palestinians choose leadership that actually cares about the future. But right now, Palestinian adults seem consumed by Islamic extremism and reflexive terrorism. [b]You'd think after 70 years, they'd try something different.[/b] But instead they choose to support Hamas, which only leads to destruction. They clearly don't care about the future for Palestinian children. It's a tragedy.  [/quote]

Agreed. I want to wash my hands of the whole area. Hamas are monsters. The ultra orthodox and settlers are monsters. I don’t want any of them getting American tax money or support. And I want their supporters in the US who aren’t citizens deported. Lets get rid of these bloodthirsty cretins.

I’m willing to give smaller sums of money to Israel to support a US military presence, because routing money to places that view women as lower status than livestock (Saudi Arabia, Palestine, etc) is not acceptable and geopolitically the US needs a presence. But this open pocketbook approach has to stop. [/quote]

Live and learn: https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/campaigns/2018/10/gaza-great-march-of-return/[/quote]

Oh, another thing I’ve learned in the past year is that I will never trust Amnesty International again. I should have mentioned that. [/quote]

Why? Not pro Israel enough? [/quote]

The obvious lying just became too much. They’ve just shown themselves to be untrustworthy. I used to be a regular donor too, I think it’s a pity how much of a grossly politicized organization they’ve become. I trust them about as much as I trust Hamas or the IDF.

To be clear, I am not a supporter of Israel. I want minimal American dollars going there, just enough to buy some military support because the US does need a spot in the region as an ally, and I don’t want us allying with groups and countries that view women as lower value than dairy cows (Saudi Arabia, Palestine, etc). Other than that minimal and necessary support, I have no interest in funding Israeli/Palestinian warring; they’re all despicable.

If another ally opens up in the Middle East where women aren’t chattel slaves, I’d be fine with switching allegiance. I dislike a lot about current Israel and am uninterested in supporting Netanyahu, who does not benefit the US at all. [/quote]

Countries that view women as dairy cows? That’s some hasbera if I ever heard it. I bet you don’t even know a single person from the Gulf or Levant. You believe that because that’s what the Zionists have conditioned you to believe. [b]What does the status of women have to do with US political decisions? [/b]Do you know how women are treated in South Asia? South East Asia? Saharan and sub Saharan Africa? Many of which are US allies. [/quote]

To misogynists, nothing. That’s precisely the issue. I realize you would like to keep women as chattel, I understand, but in the US at least I have a vote and can use it. And I don’t want to support countries that treat women worse than livestock.

And yes, women elsewhere are also treated as less than livestock. I wonder what all those places you list have in common. Truly a mystery, really. [/quote]

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