David Trone for senate

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Anonymous wrote:I'm voting for whichever Democrat who wins the primary, no matter which one.

Good for you. Some of us have principles though. And Alsobrooks is essentially a Bush-era cop-loving conservative. She was a prosecutor. She defended cops and prosecuted Black people.

This is who you think we should send to the Senate?

I’m not.

Criminals should be sent to jail whatever their race.

And I don’t believe in such insipid generalizations. Reality is more nuanced. But this simpleton’s outlook way of life is a perfect representation of how Alsobrooks sees everything. She’s basically a child when it comes to her grasp on these matters.

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Anonymous wrote:Alsobrooks had more votes than the GOP combined. The excitement for her is really understated in the media.

She had the weight of Raskin and the party behind her.

Interestingly, she doesn’t speak in her own commercial with Raskin. She’s not that impressive.

I recognized a beloved mcps teacher/admin in Trone’s commercial—a black woman. Interesting that a black female educator didn’t support Alsobrooks.

I bet Hogan will win. Long history of black candidates from PG County who simply can’t carry the state. Plus: he has name recognition.

Hogan never had to run in a presidential election year. Plus, senators and governors are very different. People will be thinking about the Supreme Court. These two factors should get Alsobrooks to 51%.

It’s obvious there are several DCUM posters focused on the Supreme Court, but I think you are overestimating how much the average moderate in say Howard or Anne Arundel or Frederick counties is focused on it. I think it’s obvious Alsobrooks will do well in MoCo and PG, but it’s the other large counties that aren’t as deep Blue as MoCo and PG that will really decide this race.

I think you're underestimating how many people believe women should have reproductive rights, and vote accordingly.

FFS, there’s more to politics than abortion. Will you PLEASE stop being so myopic?!?!

Trone would’ve been an equally pro choice candidate, but would’ve also been a true Progressive in other areas. Meanwhile Alsobrooks defended white cops who routinely abused Black people in PG.

There’s more to politics than just reproductive choice. Other issues matter too, but you don’t care about them.

Shameful.

So here's who will be on the ballot in November: Alsobrooks, and Hogan.

Who is better on your True Progressive issues?

Then I’ll either write-in Trone or I’ll just cast no ballot in that race.

But given the choice between a republican, and a Democrat who essentially acts like a republican when it comes to things that are very important to me (police abuses, ect), then I say I don’t have a choice at all. Hogan and Alsobrooks are basically the same when it comes to protecting the right of POC - they don’t.

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Anonymous wrote:Alsobrooks had more votes than the GOP combined. The excitement for her is really understated in the media.

She had the weight of Raskin and the party behind her.

Interestingly, she doesn’t speak in her own commercial with Raskin. She’s not that impressive.

I recognized a beloved mcps teacher/admin in Trone’s commercial—a black woman. Interesting that a black female educator didn’t support Alsobrooks.

I bet Hogan will win. Long history of black candidates from PG County who simply can’t carry the state. Plus: he has name recognition.

Hogan never had to run in a presidential election year. Plus, senators and governors are very different. People will be thinking about the Supreme Court. These two factors should get Alsobrooks to 51%.

It’s obvious there are several DCUM posters focused on the Supreme Court, but I think you are overestimating how much the average moderate in say Howard or Anne Arundel or Frederick counties is focused on it. I think it’s obvious Alsobrooks will do well in MoCo and PG, but it’s the other large counties that aren’t as deep Blue as MoCo and PG that will really decide this race.

I think you're underestimating how many people believe women should have reproductive rights, and vote accordingly.

FFS, there’s more to politics than abortion. Will you PLEASE stop being so myopic?!?!

Trone would’ve been an equally pro choice candidate, but would’ve also been a true Progressive in other areas. Meanwhile Alsobrooks defended white cops who routinely abused Black people in PG.

There’s more to politics than just reproductive choice. Other issues matter too, but you don’t care about them.

Shameful.

So here's who will be on the ballot in November: Alsobrooks, and Hogan.

Who is better on your True Progressive issues?

Then I’ll either write-in Trone or I’ll just cast no ballot in that race.

But given the choice between a republican, and a Democrat who essentially acts like a republican when it comes to things that are very important to me (police abuses, ect), then I say I don’t have a choice at all. Hogan and Alsobrooks are basically the same when it comes to protecting the right of POC - they don’t.

And you'll be telling elected officials that they can ignore your opinions.

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Let’s go back to the title of this thread.

Opinions as to why Trone lost by such a surprise blow out number?

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Anonymous wrote:Let’s go back to the title of this thread.

Opinions as to why Trone lost by such a surprise blow out number?

I believe he lost because of the very effective and damning ads about his donating to MAGA Republicans in red states to protect his business interests. Very damaging to women, and so corrupt.

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Voting for Larry Hogan isn’t a vote for a moderate Republican— it’s a vote for committee chairs Ted Cruz & Josh Hawley. You’re voting to allow the GOP to control the Senate chamber and that also means control who goes on the federal bench. Remember last time they controlled it?

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Anonymous wrote:Let’s go back to the title of this thread.

Opinions as to why Trone lost by such a surprise blow out number?

Because the party rallied around Alsobrooks.

Trone was painted as a “rich conservative” and the party doesn’t like that.

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Anonymous wrote:Let’s go back to the title of this thread.

Opinions as to why Trone lost by such a surprise blow out number?

I believe he lost because of the very effective and damning ads about his donating to MAGA Republicans in red states to protect his business interests. Very damaging to women, and so corrupt.

It will also be interesting to see if Black turnout was unusually high for Alsobrooks, plus women. I wonder if the poll slide didn't start when he used the racist slur. Plus people are freaking disgusted with soft-on-crime policies that have contributed to deteriorating quality of life in the area.

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Anonymous wrote:Voting for Larry Hogan isn’t a vote for a moderate Republican— it’s a vote for committee chairs Ted Cruz & Josh Hawley. You’re voting to allow the GOP to control the Senate chamber and that also means control who goes on the federal bench. Remember last time they controlled it?

THIS. He will be like every moderate Republican who never fails to toe the party line in the end.

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.marylandmatters.org/2024/05/13/a-qa-with-former-gov-larry-hogan/#:~:text=Larry%20Hogan%3A%20My%20position%20is,for%20a%20national%20abortion%20ban.

Here’s Hogan on abortion…he doesn’t support stripping rights from women.

Here's Hogan on abortion.

https://apnews.com/article/abortion-health-larry-hogan-maryland-environment-7fe7e2613ded7f6f15067100f098061d

He has a long record of opposing women's reproductive rights.

I have no problems with this at all.


“ Maryland Gov. Larry Hogan vetoed a measure Friday that would expand access to abortion in the state by ending a restriction that only physicians can provide them and requiring most insurance plans to cover abortion care without cost“

The question isn't whether or not you have problems with the bill about women's reproductive health care that Hogan vetoed. The question is whether Hogan has a long record of opposing women's reproductive rights. And the answer is: yes, he does.

And what we are saying is the article you linked doesn’t demonstrate an opposition to women’s reproductive rights. If my daughter needed/wanted an abortion I sure as eff wouldn’t want a midwife performing it.

You don't think a nurse can prescribe 2 pills?

Are you really that stupid so as to think all abortions are as easy as taking pills?!

In 2023, 63% of abortions in the US were medication abortions. I.e., pills.

Bear with me, as math isn’t my forte, but that still leaves another 37% of abortions that cannot be provided through use of a pill only. I have no issue with ensuring the care provided to those women is done by a physician.

No, it doesn't. It leaves another 37% of abortions that were not medication abortions.

I prefer to allow medical professionals to make the decisions about who is qualified to be an abortion provider. Which is kind of the point of the whole thing, actually. The decision should be made by the pregnant person and the medical professional.

Sure split that hair, but requiring those 37% of abortions by means other than a pill to be performed by physicians doesn’t bother me and doesn’t feel overly restrictive.

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Anonymous wrote:Let’s go back to the title of this thread.

Opinions as to why Trone lost by such a surprise blow out number?

You can’t buy all elections?

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Trone lost in part because his constant repetitive ads and flyers annoyed people. I remember when he ran against Raskin and it annoyed people to no end. He did the same thing this time and it really annoyed people.

It also felt slimy, like he was trying to buy his way into an election. Whoever is advising him is pretty lousy, this is a repeated pattern for him.

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.marylandmatters.org/2024/05/13/a-qa-with-former-gov-larry-hogan/#:~:text=Larry%20Hogan%3A%20My%20position%20is,for%20a%20national%20abortion%20ban.

Here’s Hogan on abortion…he doesn’t support stripping rights from women.

Here's Hogan on abortion.

https://apnews.com/article/abortion-health-larry-hogan-maryland-environment-7fe7e2613ded7f6f15067100f098061d

He has a long record of opposing women's reproductive rights.

I have no problems with this at all.


“ Maryland Gov. Larry Hogan vetoed a measure Friday that would expand access to abortion in the state by ending a restriction that only physicians can provide them and requiring most insurance plans to cover abortion care without cost“

The question isn't whether or not you have problems with the bill about women's reproductive health care that Hogan vetoed. The question is whether Hogan has a long record of opposing women's reproductive rights. And the answer is: yes, he does.

And what we are saying is the article you linked doesn’t demonstrate an opposition to women’s reproductive rights. If my daughter needed/wanted an abortion I sure as eff wouldn’t want a midwife performing it.

You don't think a nurse can prescribe 2 pills?

Are you really that stupid so as to think all abortions are as easy as taking pills?!

In 2023, 63% of abortions in the US were medication abortions. I.e., pills.

Bear with me, as math isn’t my forte, but that still leaves another 37% of abortions that cannot be provided through use of a pill only. I have no issue with ensuring the care provided to those women is done by a physician.

No, it doesn't. It leaves another 37% of abortions that were not medication abortions.

I prefer to allow medical professionals to make the decisions about who is qualified to be an abortion provider. Which is kind of the point of the whole thing, actually. The decision should be made by the pregnant person and the medical professional.

Sure split that hair, but requiring those 37% of abortions by means other than a pill to be performed by physicians doesn’t bother me and doesn’t feel overly restrictive.

Fortunately, since the General Assembly overrode Hogan's veto, Maryland law now allows medical care providers to decide what is appropriate, which is how it should be.

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Anonymous wrote:Let’s go back to the title of this thread.

Opinions as to why Trone lost by such a surprise blow out number?

Because Alsobrooks is a more compelling candidate.

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Anonymous wrote:Let’s go back to the title of this thread.

Opinions as to why Trone lost by such a surprise blow out number?

Two reasons. 1. Alsobrooks tied Trone to Donald Trump. 2. She came out with a ad with all of the endorsements. That one was visually impactful because it had all of the heavy hitters in one shot endorsing her.

Both of those ads were late in the campaigning season so they were fresh and peoples minds.