3 children dead in private Christian elementary school shooting in TN

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Vanderbilt Endocrinology will be subject of major lawsuit.

Then so should the gun manufacturer and retail store.

Testosterone therapy likely played a part here

Complete speculation. I’m a female on very high levels of testosterone and I’ve never even raised my voice since taking T, let alone murdered children.

Are you trans masc? I ask because if you have PCOS that can cause masculinization for sure (and can be treated with the same medication I take to block testosterone as a trans woman along with a couple others). Male T levels are very high. Usually 300+ ng/dL. Sometimes even 900 or 1000+. I had labs done recently and mine was in the single digits which is below tbat of cisgender women.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Vanderbilt Endocrinology will be subject of major lawsuit.

Then so should the gun manufacturer and retail store.

Testosterone therapy likely played a part here

Complete speculation. I’m a female on very high levels of testosterone and I’ve never even raised my voice since taking T, let alone murdered children.

Testosterone is known to cause aggression and rage. Combine that with mental illness and a vendetta against a group and you have a potentially toxic combination. If this school was targeted by the shooter because it was a Christian school then it should be considered a hate crime.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Vanderbilt Endocrinology will be subject of major lawsuit.

Then so should the gun manufacturer and retail store.

Testosterone therapy likely played a part here

Complete speculation. I’m a female on very high levels of testosterone and I’ve never even raised my voice since taking T, let alone murdered children.

Testosterone is known to cause aggression and rage. Combine that with mental illness and a vendetta against a group and you have a potentially toxic combination. If this school was targeted by the shooter because it was a Christian school then it should be considered a hate crime.

DING DING DING. Correct.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I feel so incredibly helpless. I love my country and its citizens. I'm a nurse.

I will never once understand the US obsession with firearms. My opinion only - I think it's psychotic. If I could leave America, I would. I've had it with the sick, sick gun obsession. I'll never understand it and have read every argument for firearms. I'd rather leave you to kill each other with your bullets and "freedom". Disgusting.

There’s no obsession with guns, the obsession is being given everything and catering and enabling and when u don’t get ur way, and ur a cry baby, and can’t handle not getting ur way or people not agreeing with you..
If these people couldn’t get guns, they would find something else

Sure but nothing else kills as many people as quickly as an AR-15. Except a bomb, but that takes a lot more effort to arrange.

And yes, Americans are obsessed with guns. Please.











And take a look through these: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6528667/Gun-toting-Americans-proudly-beloved-firearms-Christmas.html

And here's data about the amount of firearms in the US.

Lots of firearms can kill just as quickly as an aR-15.

Rifles like ARs kill more thoroughly than handguns and knives.

-Healthcare worker

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Vanderbilt Endocrinology will be subject of major lawsuit.

Then so should the gun manufacturer and retail store.

Testosterone therapy likely played a part here

Complete speculation. I’m a female on very high levels of testosterone and I’ve never even raised my voice since taking T, let alone murdered children.

Testosterone is known to cause aggression and rage. Combine that with mental illness and a vendetta against a group and you have a potentially toxic combination. If this school was targeted by the shooter because it was a Christian school then it should be considered a hate crime.

Hate crime? Great. Who are you going to charge?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Vanderbilt Endocrinology will be subject of major lawsuit.

Then so should the gun manufacturer and retail store.

Testosterone therapy likely played a part here

Complete speculation. I’m a female on very high levels of testosterone and I’ve never even raised my voice since taking T, let alone murdered children.

Testosterone is known to cause aggression and rage. Combine that with mental illness and a vendetta against a group and you have a potentially toxic combination. If this school was targeted by the shooter because it was a Christian school then it should be considered a hate crime.

DING DING DING. Correct.

No because he was part of that community.

[Anonymous]

I don't know anymore except that homicide is now the leading cause of death in children in the U.S.: https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamapediatrics/article-abstract/2799356.
How is anyone okay with this??? How can we look down at other countries and think we're so much better than them? It is disgusting and evil that our country hasn't done anything about this.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Vanderbilt Endocrinology will be subject of major lawsuit.

Then so should the gun manufacturer and retail store.

Testosterone therapy likely played a part here

Complete speculation. I’m a female on very high levels of testosterone and I’ve never even raised my voice since taking T, let alone murdered children.

Testosterone is known to cause aggression and rage. Combine that with mental illness and a vendetta against a group and you have a potentially toxic combination. If this school was targeted by the shooter because it was a Christian school then it should be considered a hate crime.

DING DING DING. Correct.

It has the appearance of a revenge killing by a member of that community.

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Anonymous wrote:Children die for the 2nd Amendment. The GOP has decided to sacrifice our young for men to pretend to be the punisher.

We have their thoughts and prayers. Doesn't that stop bullets or do they just call fake news when children actually die?

Per the perusal of Foxnews comments every time something like this happens, it's:

-That we don't have enough armed guards at schools ("lots of retired veterans would be happy to guard schools!") ignoring that we have mass shootings with armed guards anyways, and at other locations besides schools including concerts, malls, movie theaters, workplaces, churches, and on and on
-That we don't arm teachers (most teachers don't want to be armed, I know many of them and they have enough to worry about let alone carrying a loaded gun that kids could easily get ahold of)
-That it's our lack of family values as a country/society in the USA that is to blame (specifically democratic erosion of traditional family values)... basically a "shrug, can't do nothing about that till we have better morals!" response that is useless
-We have enough gun laws, more won't do anything

blah blah blah. Conservatives have absolutely nothing helpful to say and it keeps happening and rinse and repeat.

Tbh I just pray it happens at schools filled with the kids of Republican elites. Then only way they change their tune is when it happens to them. They don’t give a f#ck about anyone else.

That said, I wish for a world with strong gun control and an absence of school shootings.

Wow. Just wow.

Yes, I am also shocked at how ghoulish the Republican elites conduct themselves. Democrats have been begging for 20 years for sensible gun reforms and the Republicans just grow more extreme, egged on by our lunatic Supreme Court.

If we are going to have a country with mass shootings, I’m going to pray that it mostly affects those who enable it to happen and block good-faith reforms. Reap what you sow, and all that.

Multiple posters on this thread have literally said they hope the dead children have Republican parents, and you're calling Republicans "ghoulish?" I've never seen/heard Republicans hoping for dead children.

1. Multiple?
2. I have read way worse on FoxNews, so please don't think these anecdotes on either side make any one better.

What are your proposed solutions to prevent mass shootings, not just at schools but grocery stores, churches, concerts, and more, as even armed guards have failed??

Well, the individual came in through a side door which must've been unlocked. So start by locking doors.

What about at recess? Or drop off? Or pick up? We had a school shooting at my kids' elementary school. It was at pickup time. It was domestic in nature with an estranged (ex?) husband shooting and killing his wife. No need to enter the school for a school shooting.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Does it matter that the shooter was trans? I don’t think it does.

It depends on what they find about the motive.

Police are saying that there is a manifesto, that the he planned more killings and that the killings were linked to his trans identity. I’m sure all the details will come out shortly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Vanderbilt Endocrinology will be subject of major lawsuit.

Then so should the gun manufacturer and retail store.

Testosterone therapy likely played a part here

Complete speculation. I’m a female on very high levels of testosterone and I’ve never even raised my voice since taking T, let alone murdered children.

Testosterone is known to cause aggression and rage. Combine that with mental illness and a vendetta against a group and you have a potentially toxic combination. If this school was targeted by the shooter because it was a Christian school then it should be considered a hate crime.

DING DING DING. Correct.

What's the DING DING DING about, PP? Crimes committed against churches, mosques, Buddhist temples, synagogues etc. are not unusual in this country. Christian establishments (that don't have a largely black congregation) do not comprise the majority of mass shooting targets. The shooting may have been just a grievance against the school itself, regardless of the religion it's organized around.

[Anonymous]

Australian here with a child who will be in elementary school in a few years- what I see of the USA horrifies me. Serious question, does anyone with school aged children think of moving countries to avoid the possibility of their child getting shot every time they go to school? Or do you take other measures such as sending your child to a school with heavy security where this is less likely to happen? I honestly don’t know what I would do if I lived in the USA.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I feel so incredibly helpless. I love my country and its citizens. I'm a nurse.

I will never once understand the US obsession with firearms. My opinion only - I think it's psychotic. If I could leave America, I would. I've had it with the sick, sick gun obsession. I'll never understand it and have read every argument for firearms. I'd rather leave you to kill each other with your bullets and "freedom". Disgusting.

There’s no obsession with guns, the obsession is being given everything and catering and enabling and when u don’t get ur way, and ur a cry baby, and can’t handle not getting ur way or people not agreeing with you..
If these people couldn’t get guns, they would find something else

Sure but nothing else kills as many people as quickly as an AR-15. Except a bomb, but that takes a lot more effort to arrange.

And yes, Americans are obsessed with guns. Please.











And take a look through these: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6528667/Gun-toting-Americans-proudly-beloved-firearms-Christmas.html

And here's data about the amount of firearms in the US.

Lots of firearms can kill just as quickly as an aR-15.

Absolutely true. But you don't see some teenager shooting up a school with a wooden-stocked Remington semi-auto because it's all about "looks" - they want a gun that "looks scary" like Rambo, not a gun that makes them look like Elmer Fudd. Even though the Elmer Fudd Remington is often going to be a lot more powerful than the AR-15.

The assault weapon ban WORKED. With the exception of Columbine and a spate of copycat shootings in 1999, mass shootings dropped off significantly when the AWB was in effect and jumped up higher than it was when the ban expired. While any gun can be effective, the AWB shows it wasn't actually even about capabilities or function of the gun, it's about psychology.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Vanderbilt Endocrinology will be subject of major lawsuit.

Then so should the gun manufacturer and retail store.

Testosterone therapy likely played a part here

Complete speculation. I’m a female on very high levels of testosterone and I’ve never even raised my voice since taking T, let alone murdered children.

Testosterone is known to cause aggression and rage. Combine that with mental illness and a vendetta against a group and you have a potentially toxic combination. If this school was targeted by the shooter because it was a Christian school then it should be considered a hate crime.

Hate crime? Great. Who are you going to charge?

U can’t stop people from hating
They are trying to make people like certain groups
You can’t debate they have zero tolerance

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Vanderbilt Endocrinology will be subject of major lawsuit.

Then so should the gun manufacturer and retail store.

Testosterone therapy likely played a part here

Complete speculation. I’m a female on very high levels of testosterone and I’ve never even raised my voice since taking T, let alone murdered children.

Testosterone is known to cause aggression and rage. Combine that with mental illness and a vendetta against a group and you have a potentially toxic combination. If this school was targeted by the shooter because it was a Christian school then it should be considered a hate crime.

DING DING DING. Correct.

It has the appearance of a revenge killing by a member of that community.

Revenge is something you take out on an individual who wronged you. This 28 year old was planning to kill little as many innocent little kids as possible.