Prince Harry’s book

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I read the book. Harry’s ideas were not workable for the royal family. That doesn’t mean they were unwilling to use his ideas. It means they considered his ideas and rejected them because it is not how the royal family works. They encouraged Haz to forge his own path and pay his own way, and he is having his revenge. It’s beyond sad and spiteful.

No. I think you’re lying. You did not read the book. Had you actually read the book you would know that it was workable, as others had done it before. Did you also consider Charles’ book sad and spiteful when he lambasted his mom and others?

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Anonymous wrote:I read the book. Harry’s ideas were not workable for the royal family. That doesn’t mean they were unwilling to use his ideas. It means they considered his ideas and rejected them because it is not how the royal family works. They encouraged Haz to forge his own path and pay his own way, and he is having his revenge. It’s beyond sad and spiteful.

Had you read the book, you'd know that it was workable and had been done by others. Had you reach the book, you'd know that Harry was willing to do anything that would allow him to keep his security detail - except maintaining the status quo where they were both full time working royals. The choice the BFR gave him was either keep things the way they are or you are cut off.

I’m sorry, but you’re lying. NP to this thread. I’ve read it. Harry is dishonest. The specific branding and monetization he and Meghan sought had never been done by others nor approved by others. It’s simply not true.

The way he treated Pat in print to me is the clearest indicator of what a rotten soul he has. I felt such pity for the public face he put on after losing his mom. He has utterly no empathy for others, and it’s revolting. YMMV.

DP- You’re right! Harry never marketed or branded gin — like the Queen, or horses — like the Queen, Anne, and Zara; or baked goods like Charles; or cooperated with a biography— like Charles; or wrote books — like Fergie, Princess Michael, and the Duke of Kent; of accepted commercial endorsements like Fergie, Peter, and Zara; or appeared on a reality show like Mike Tindall. So, no, “ the specific branding and monetization that he and Meghan sought” may not have been done or approved (hard to know — without more specifics) but given what has been done, whatever the boundaries of doing so are have included quite a range, from Peter’s milk commercial to the Queen’s own gin.

Your criticisms of a schoolboy as “rotten” and with “utterly no empathy” mirror the tabloids take, so: eh. If that’s your take as well, tennagers in general and most human beings beyond infancy must revolt you quite a lot.

Oops. Multiple typos - or/ of, delete the: are, I kind of like the idea of “tennagers” but I meant: teenagers.

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Is there any truth to the rumor that Harry has signed a multi-book deal--that there may be 2 or 3 more books from him?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Is there any truth to the rumor that Harry has signed a multi-book deal--that there may be 2 or 3 more books from him?

Someone said that upthread. Maybe, like Avatar 2, the next one will also be a worldwide bestseller...

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Anonymous wrote:Is there any truth to the rumor that Harry has signed a multi-book deal--that there may be 2 or 3 more books from him?

Yes, it’s a multi-book deal between both Meghan and Harry.

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Anonymous wrote:Seems to have fallen very quickly from the news. Haven't seen mention of it in a week or so.

Really wasn't much substance beyond a combination of frustration and spoiled clueless rich boy who couldn't figure out how to grow up. I didn't see anything in it that spoke badly of the royal family, which isn't surprising given how the rest of them seem to manage to function decently. I don't doubt they have their own frustrations but the others didn't need all this controversy to vent. The RF is an institution and all institutions need their rules to function and to make it coherent. The Queen was right when she told Harry the only alternative was to leave, but even Harry couldn't turn his escape into happiness, which tells you the real problem is him, not the royal family or others around him.

I highly doubt you've read the book. Had you read the book, you'd know that Harry isn't unhappy. Had you read the book, you'd realize how significant their need for security is and how The Firm makes it worse. Had you read the book, you'd know that because of how The Firm incorporated Harry into their production from birth, he can stop performing but he's still a member despite his unwillingness. It's like Hotel California. Just admit you didn't read the book.

I know no matter what I say you'll always be convinced I never read the book.

When you take the perspective the book was written by an unhappy man with an axe to grind and who is rather dim and short sighted, you'd see that it's someone amplifying many not atypical family frustrations and exploding it out on a bigger scale because of the backdrop of the royal family.

The royal family is an institution with its rules. There's a reason people refer to it as a firm. It is more than the sum of its members. And it abides by rules. Some of the rules don't make sense outside the family but they do exist, such as precedence and rituals. Many of the rules exist because of how the monarchy functions within Britain and the expectations for the family and how it needs to conduct itself. That's why the Queen said follow the rules or hit the road.

This.

+1 It's hard to argue Harry didn't write this book out of anger. To me he is as dim-witted as everyone says he is because he has made it clear he wants to remain within the royal fold in some capacity (demands security so he can keep visiting UK, wants titles for his children, and would jump at a chance for a half in half out role). He wants the royal pomp but on his own terms, and when that didn't happen he decided to seek revenge.

Why are you in this thread if you haven’t read the book? Why?

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Anonymous wrote:Seems to have fallen very quickly from the news. Haven't seen mention of it in a week or so.

Really wasn't much substance beyond a combination of frustration and spoiled clueless rich boy who couldn't figure out how to grow up. I didn't see anything in it that spoke badly of the royal family, which isn't surprising given how the rest of them seem to manage to function decently. I don't doubt they have their own frustrations but the others didn't need all this controversy to vent. The RF is an institution and all institutions need their rules to function and to make it coherent. The Queen was right when she told Harry the only alternative was to leave, but even Harry couldn't turn his escape into happiness, which tells you the real problem is him, not the royal family or others around him.

I highly doubt you've read the book. Had you read the book, you'd know that Harry isn't unhappy. Had you read the book, you'd realize how significant their need for security is and how The Firm makes it worse. Had you read the book, you'd know that because of how The Firm incorporated Harry into their production from birth, he can stop performing but he's still a member despite his unwillingness. It's like Hotel California. Just admit you didn't read the book.

I know no matter what I say you'll always be convinced I never read the book.

When you take the perspective the book was written by an unhappy man with an axe to grind and who is rather dim and short sighted, you'd see that it's someone amplifying many not atypical family frustrations and exploding it out on a bigger scale because of the backdrop of the royal family.

The royal family is an institution with its rules. There's a reason people refer to it as a firm. It is more than the sum of its members. And it abides by rules. Some of the rules don't make sense outside the family but they do exist, such as precedence and rituals. Many of the rules exist because of how the monarchy functions within Britain and the expectations for the family and how it needs to conduct itself. That's why the Queen said follow the rules or hit the road.

This.

+1 It's hard to argue Harry didn't write this book out of anger. To me he is as dim-witted as everyone says he is because he has made it clear he wants to remain within the royal fold in some capacity (demands security so he can keep visiting UK, wants titles for his children, and would jump at a chance for a half in half out role). He wants the royal pomp but on his own terms, and when that didn't happen he decided to seek revenge.

Why are you in this thread if you haven’t read the book? Why?

DP but why do people believe what Harry writes in his book? There have been multiple probable inaccuracies and falsehoods in the book… the whole takeaway for me is a newfound admiration for the institution that clearly built him up in a way which hid all of his emotional problems, pettiness, and blame other people for everything way of viewing the world. I thought he was lovable, fun, happy Harry. Instead his own words make him anything but.

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Anonymous wrote:Seems to have fallen very quickly from the news. Haven't seen mention of it in a week or so.

Really wasn't much substance beyond a combination of frustration and spoiled clueless rich boy who couldn't figure out how to grow up. I didn't see anything in it that spoke badly of the royal family, which isn't surprising given how the rest of them seem to manage to function decently. I don't doubt they have their own frustrations but the others didn't need all this controversy to vent. The RF is an institution and all institutions need their rules to function and to make it coherent. The Queen was right when she told Harry the only alternative was to leave, but even Harry couldn't turn his escape into happiness, which tells you the real problem is him, not the royal family or others around him.

I highly doubt you've read the book. Had you read the book, you'd know that Harry isn't unhappy. Had you read the book, you'd realize how significant their need for security is and how The Firm makes it worse. Had you read the book, you'd know that because of how The Firm incorporated Harry into their production from birth, he can stop performing but he's still a member despite his unwillingness. It's like Hotel California. Just admit you didn't read the book.

I know no matter what I say you'll always be convinced I never read the book.

When you take the perspective the book was written by an unhappy man with an axe to grind and who is rather dim and short sighted, you'd see that it's someone amplifying many not atypical family frustrations and exploding it out on a bigger scale because of the backdrop of the royal family.

The royal family is an institution with its rules. There's a reason people refer to it as a firm. It is more than the sum of its members. And it abides by rules. Some of the rules don't make sense outside the family but they do exist, such as precedence and rituals. Many of the rules exist because of how the monarchy functions within Britain and the expectations for the family and how it needs to conduct itself. That's why the Queen said follow the rules or hit the road.

This.

+1 It's hard to argue Harry didn't write this book out of anger. To me he is as dim-witted as everyone says he is because he has made it clear he wants to remain within the royal fold in some capacity (demands security so he can keep visiting UK, wants titles for his children, and would jump at a chance for a half in half out role). He wants the royal pomp but on his own terms, and when that didn't happen he decided to seek revenge.

Why are you in this thread if you haven’t read the book? Why?

DP but why do people believe what Harry writes in his book? There have been multiple probable inaccuracies and falsehoods in the book… the whole takeaway for me is a newfound admiration for the institution that clearly built him up in a way which hid all of his emotional problems, pettiness, and blame other people for everything way of viewing the world. I thought he was lovable, fun, happy Harry. Instead his own words make him anything but.

Because those of us who actually read it know that the “inaccuracies” and “falsehoods” are either completely made up or out of context. Example: claim that he “lied” about his mother giving him an X box because they aren’t around in her life time. What it actually says is that he was told this happened right before she died but he has no recollection of it. Clearly it meant another type of gaming console but as he clearly said he DIDN’T REMEMBER this happening it doesn’t matter. The point wasn’t which 90s gaming device he has it was that his memory was clouded by his grief for his dead mother. Also he was 12 years old!!! Any of the alleged “inaccuracies” are clear if you read the damn book.

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Anonymous wrote:Seems to have fallen very quickly from the news. Haven't seen mention of it in a week or so.

Really wasn't much substance beyond a combination of frustration and spoiled clueless rich boy who couldn't figure out how to grow up. I didn't see anything in it that spoke badly of the royal family, which isn't surprising given how the rest of them seem to manage to function decently. I don't doubt they have their own frustrations but the others didn't need all this controversy to vent. The RF is an institution and all institutions need their rules to function and to make it coherent. The Queen was right when she told Harry the only alternative was to leave, but even Harry couldn't turn his escape into happiness, which tells you the real problem is him, not the royal family or others around him.

I highly doubt you've read the book. Had you read the book, you'd know that Harry isn't unhappy. Had you read the book, you'd realize how significant their need for security is and how The Firm makes it worse. Had you read the book, you'd know that because of how The Firm incorporated Harry into their production from birth, he can stop performing but he's still a member despite his unwillingness. It's like Hotel California. Just admit you didn't read the book.

I know no matter what I say you'll always be convinced I never read the book.

When you take the perspective the book was written by an unhappy man with an axe to grind and who is rather dim and short sighted, you'd see that it's someone amplifying many not atypical family frustrations and exploding it out on a bigger scale because of the backdrop of the royal family.

The royal family is an institution with its rules. There's a reason people refer to it as a firm. It is more than the sum of its members. And it abides by rules. Some of the rules don't make sense outside the family but they do exist, such as precedence and rituals. Many of the rules exist because of how the monarchy functions within Britain and the expectations for the family and how it needs to conduct itself. That's why the Queen said follow the rules or hit the road.

This.

+1 It's hard to argue Harry didn't write this book out of anger. To me he is as dim-witted as everyone says he is because he has made it clear he wants to remain within the royal fold in some capacity (demands security so he can keep visiting UK, wants titles for his children, and would jump at a chance for a half in half out role). He wants the royal pomp but on his own terms, and when that didn't happen he decided to seek revenge.

Why are you in this thread if you haven’t read the book? Why?

DP but why do people believe what Harry writes in his book? There have been multiple probable inaccuracies and falsehoods in the book… the whole takeaway for me is a newfound admiration for the institution that clearly built him up in a way which hid all of his emotional problems, pettiness, and blame other people for everything way of viewing the world. I thought he was lovable, fun, happy Harry. Instead his own words make him anything but.

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Anonymous wrote:Seems to have fallen very quickly from the news. Haven't seen mention of it in a week or so.

Really wasn't much substance beyond a combination of frustration and spoiled clueless rich boy who couldn't figure out how to grow up. I didn't see anything in it that spoke badly of the royal family, which isn't surprising given how the rest of them seem to manage to function decently. I don't doubt they have their own frustrations but the others didn't need all this controversy to vent. The RF is an institution and all institutions need their rules to function and to make it coherent. The Queen was right when she told Harry the only alternative was to leave, but even Harry couldn't turn his escape into happiness, which tells you the real problem is him, not the royal family or others around him.

I highly doubt you've read the book. Had you read the book, you'd know that Harry isn't unhappy. Had you read the book, you'd realize how significant their need for security is and how The Firm makes it worse. Had you read the book, you'd know that because of how The Firm incorporated Harry into their production from birth, he can stop performing but he's still a member despite his unwillingness. It's like Hotel California. Just admit you didn't read the book.

I know no matter what I say you'll always be convinced I never read the book.

When you take the perspective the book was written by an unhappy man with an axe to grind and who is rather dim and short sighted, you'd see that it's someone amplifying many not atypical family frustrations and exploding it out on a bigger scale because of the backdrop of the royal family.

The royal family is an institution with its rules. There's a reason people refer to it as a firm. It is more than the sum of its members. And it abides by rules. Some of the rules don't make sense outside the family but they do exist, such as precedence and rituals. Many of the rules exist because of how the monarchy functions within Britain and the expectations for the family and how it needs to conduct itself. That's why the Queen said follow the rules or hit the road.

This.

+1 It's hard to argue Harry didn't write this book out of anger. To me he is as dim-witted as everyone says he is because he has made it clear he wants to remain within the royal fold in some capacity (demands security so he can keep visiting UK, wants titles for his children, and would jump at a chance for a half in half out role). He wants the royal pomp but on his own terms, and when that didn't happen he decided to seek revenge.

Why are you in this thread if you haven’t read the book? Why?

DP but why do people believe what Harry writes in his book? There have been multiple probable inaccuracies and falsehoods in the book… the whole takeaway for me is a newfound admiration for the institution that clearly built him up in a way which hid all of his emotional problems, pettiness, and blame other people for everything way of viewing the world. I thought he was lovable, fun, happy Harry. Instead his own words make him anything but.

Because those of us who actually read it know that the “inaccuracies” and “falsehoods” are either completely made up or out of context. Example: claim that he “lied” about his mother giving him an X box because they aren’t around in her life time. What it actually says is that he was told this happened right before she died but he has no recollection of it. Clearly it meant another type of gaming console but as he clearly said he DIDN’T REMEMBER this happening it doesn’t matter. The point wasn’t which 90s gaming device he has it was that his memory was clouded by his grief for his dead mother. Also he was 12 years old!!! Any of the alleged “inaccuracies” are clear if you read the damn book.

Nobody cares about the xbox. It seems the main issues people have with him are going over your head or you are being deliberately obtuse.

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Anonymous wrote:Seems to have fallen very quickly from the news. Haven't seen mention of it in a week or so.

Really wasn't much substance beyond a combination of frustration and spoiled clueless rich boy who couldn't figure out how to grow up. I didn't see anything in it that spoke badly of the royal family, which isn't surprising given how the rest of them seem to manage to function decently. I don't doubt they have their own frustrations but the others didn't need all this controversy to vent. The RF is an institution and all institutions need their rules to function and to make it coherent. The Queen was right when she told Harry the only alternative was to leave, but even Harry couldn't turn his escape into happiness, which tells you the real problem is him, not the royal family or others around him.

I highly doubt you've read the book. Had you read the book, you'd know that Harry isn't unhappy. Had you read the book, you'd realize how significant their need for security is and how The Firm makes it worse. Had you read the book, you'd know that because of how The Firm incorporated Harry into their production from birth, he can stop performing but he's still a member despite his unwillingness. It's like Hotel California. Just admit you didn't read the book.

I know no matter what I say you'll always be convinced I never read the book.

When you take the perspective the book was written by an unhappy man with an axe to grind and who is rather dim and short sighted, you'd see that it's someone amplifying many not atypical family frustrations and exploding it out on a bigger scale because of the backdrop of the royal family.

The royal family is an institution with its rules. There's a reason people refer to it as a firm. It is more than the sum of its members. And it abides by rules. Some of the rules don't make sense outside the family but they do exist, such as precedence and rituals. Many of the rules exist because of how the monarchy functions within Britain and the expectations for the family and how it needs to conduct itself. That's why the Queen said follow the rules or hit the road.

This.

+1 It's hard to argue Harry didn't write this book out of anger. To me he is as dim-witted as everyone says he is because he has made it clear he wants to remain within the royal fold in some capacity (demands security so he can keep visiting UK, wants titles for his children, and would jump at a chance for a half in half out role). He wants the royal pomp but on his own terms, and when that didn't happen he decided to seek revenge.

Why are you in this thread if you haven’t read the book? Why?

DP but why do people believe what Harry writes in his book? There have been multiple probable inaccuracies and falsehoods in the book… the whole takeaway for me is a newfound admiration for the institution that clearly built him up in a way which hid all of his emotional problems, pettiness, and blame other people for everything way of viewing the world. I thought he was lovable, fun, happy Harry. Instead his own words make him anything but.

Because those of us who actually read it know that the “inaccuracies” and “falsehoods” are either completely made up or out of context. Example: claim that he “lied” about his mother giving him an X box because they aren’t around in her life time. What it actually says is that he was told this happened right before she died but he has no recollection of it. Clearly it meant another type of gaming console but as he clearly said he DIDN’T REMEMBER this happening it doesn’t matter. The point wasn’t which 90s gaming device he has it was that his memory was clouded by his grief for his dead mother. Also he was 12 years old!!! Any of the alleged “inaccuracies” are clear if you read the damn book.

Nobody cares about the xbox. It seems the main issues people have with him are going over your head or you are being deliberately obtuse.

I was responding directly to the claim that it was rife with inaccuracies and falsehoods. All the reported “inaccuracies” I’ve seen have been trivial and mostly out of context. What other “inaccuracies” are you talking about????! No, not your general complaints, specific alleged falsehoods.

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Anonymous wrote:Seems to have fallen very quickly from the news. Haven't seen mention of it in a week or so.

Really wasn't much substance beyond a combination of frustration and spoiled clueless rich boy who couldn't figure out how to grow up. I didn't see anything in it that spoke badly of the royal family, which isn't surprising given how the rest of them seem to manage to function decently. I don't doubt they have their own frustrations but the others didn't need all this controversy to vent. The RF is an institution and all institutions need their rules to function and to make it coherent. The Queen was right when she told Harry the only alternative was to leave, but even Harry couldn't turn his escape into happiness, which tells you the real problem is him, not the royal family or others around him.

I highly doubt you've read the book. Had you read the book, you'd know that Harry isn't unhappy. Had you read the book, you'd realize how significant their need for security is and how The Firm makes it worse. Had you read the book, you'd know that because of how The Firm incorporated Harry into their production from birth, he can stop performing but he's still a member despite his unwillingness. It's like Hotel California. Just admit you didn't read the book.

I know no matter what I say you'll always be convinced I never read the book.

When you take the perspective the book was written by an unhappy man with an axe to grind and who is rather dim and short sighted, you'd see that it's someone amplifying many not atypical family frustrations and exploding it out on a bigger scale because of the backdrop of the royal family.

The royal family is an institution with its rules. There's a reason people refer to it as a firm. It is more than the sum of its members. And it abides by rules. Some of the rules don't make sense outside the family but they do exist, such as precedence and rituals. Many of the rules exist because of how the monarchy functions within Britain and the expectations for the family and how it needs to conduct itself. That's why the Queen said follow the rules or hit the road.

This.

+1 It's hard to argue Harry didn't write this book out of anger. To me he is as dim-witted as everyone says he is because he has made it clear he wants to remain within the royal fold in some capacity (demands security so he can keep visiting UK, wants titles for his children, and would jump at a chance for a half in half out role). He wants the royal pomp but on his own terms, and when that didn't happen he decided to seek revenge.

Why are you in this thread if you haven’t read the book? Why?

DP but why do people believe what Harry writes in his book? There have been multiple probable inaccuracies and falsehoods in the book… the whole takeaway for me is a newfound admiration for the institution that clearly built him up in a way which hid all of his emotional problems, pettiness, and blame other people for everything way of viewing the world. I thought he was lovable, fun, happy Harry. Instead his own words make him anything but.

I’m somewhat curious about whether you can provide any actual data to support your claim of “probable inaccuracies and falsehoods”. Only “probable”? If there are concerns, shouldn’t there be documentation of some sort?

I’m even more curious, though, about your takeaway, especially on a site geared towards parents and parenting concerns. You admire an institution that “hid all of his emotional problems”? Personally, I would be more inclined to admire an institution that got appropriate assessments and interventions for a grieving, struggling kid. DP

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Anonymous wrote:Seems to have fallen very quickly from the news. Haven't seen mention of it in a week or so.

Really wasn't much substance beyond a combination of frustration and spoiled clueless rich boy who couldn't figure out how to grow up. I didn't see anything in it that spoke badly of the royal family, which isn't surprising given how the rest of them seem to manage to function decently. I don't doubt they have their own frustrations but the others didn't need all this controversy to vent. The RF is an institution and all institutions need their rules to function and to make it coherent. The Queen was right when she told Harry the only alternative was to leave, but even Harry couldn't turn his escape into happiness, which tells you the real problem is him, not the royal family or others around him.

I highly doubt you've read the book. Had you read the book, you'd know that Harry isn't unhappy. Had you read the book, you'd realize how significant their need for security is and how The Firm makes it worse. Had you read the book, you'd know that because of how The Firm incorporated Harry into their production from birth, he can stop performing but he's still a member despite his unwillingness. It's like Hotel California. Just admit you didn't read the book.

I know no matter what I say you'll always be convinced I never read the book.

When you take the perspective the book was written by an unhappy man with an axe to grind and who is rather dim and short sighted, you'd see that it's someone amplifying many not atypical family frustrations and exploding it out on a bigger scale because of the backdrop of the royal family.

The royal family is an institution with its rules. There's a reason people refer to it as a firm. It is more than the sum of its members. And it abides by rules. Some of the rules don't make sense outside the family but they do exist, such as precedence and rituals. Many of the rules exist because of how the monarchy functions within Britain and the expectations for the family and how it needs to conduct itself. That's why the Queen said follow the rules or hit the road.

This.

+1 It's hard to argue Harry didn't write this book out of anger. To me he is as dim-witted as everyone says he is because he has made it clear he wants to remain within the royal fold in some capacity (demands security so he can keep visiting UK, wants titles for his children, and would jump at a chance for a half in half out role). He wants the royal pomp but on his own terms, and when that didn't happen he decided to seek revenge.

Why are you in this thread if you haven’t read the book? Why?

DP but why do people believe what Harry writes in his book? There have been multiple probable inaccuracies and falsehoods in the book… the whole takeaway for me is a newfound admiration for the institution that clearly built him up in a way which hid all of his emotional problems, pettiness, and blame other people for everything way of viewing the world. I thought he was lovable, fun, happy Harry. Instead his own words make him anything but.

I’m somewhat curious about whether you can provide any actual data to support your claim of “probable inaccuracies and falsehoods”. Only “probable”? If there are concerns, shouldn’t there be documentation of some sort?

I’m even more curious, though, about your takeaway, especially on a site geared towards parents and parenting concerns. You admire an institution that “hid all of his emotional problems”? Personally, I would be more inclined to admire an institution that got appropriate assessments and interventions for a grieving, struggling kid. DP

“Provable” not “probable.” Also someone absolutely should have gotten him help if he were willing to take it. He’s been an adult making his own decisions in many ways for almost 20 years. The admiration is for the way the palace spun his personality in a way that made us all think he was clearly something he’s not.

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Anonymous wrote:Seems to have fallen very quickly from the news. Haven't seen mention of it in a week or so.

Really wasn't much substance beyond a combination of frustration and spoiled clueless rich boy who couldn't figure out how to grow up. I didn't see anything in it that spoke badly of the royal family, which isn't surprising given how the rest of them seem to manage to function decently. I don't doubt they have their own frustrations but the others didn't need all this controversy to vent. The RF is an institution and all institutions need their rules to function and to make it coherent. The Queen was right when she told Harry the only alternative was to leave, but even Harry couldn't turn his escape into happiness, which tells you the real problem is him, not the royal family or others around him.

I highly doubt you've read the book. Had you read the book, you'd know that Harry isn't unhappy. Had you read the book, you'd realize how significant their need for security is and how The Firm makes it worse. Had you read the book, you'd know that because of how The Firm incorporated Harry into their production from birth, he can stop performing but he's still a member despite his unwillingness. It's like Hotel California. Just admit you didn't read the book.

I know no matter what I say you'll always be convinced I never read the book.

When you take the perspective the book was written by an unhappy man with an axe to grind and who is rather dim and short sighted, you'd see that it's someone amplifying many not atypical family frustrations and exploding it out on a bigger scale because of the backdrop of the royal family.

The royal family is an institution with its rules. There's a reason people refer to it as a firm. It is more than the sum of its members. And it abides by rules. Some of the rules don't make sense outside the family but they do exist, such as precedence and rituals. Many of the rules exist because of how the monarchy functions within Britain and the expectations for the family and how it needs to conduct itself. That's why the Queen said follow the rules or hit the road.

This.

+1 It's hard to argue Harry didn't write this book out of anger. To me he is as dim-witted as everyone says he is because he has made it clear he wants to remain within the royal fold in some capacity (demands security so he can keep visiting UK, wants titles for his children, and would jump at a chance for a half in half out role). He wants the royal pomp but on his own terms, and when that didn't happen he decided to seek revenge.

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Anonymous wrote:Seems to have fallen very quickly from the news. Haven't seen mention of it in a week or so.

Really wasn't much substance beyond a combination of frustration and spoiled clueless rich boy who couldn't figure out how to grow up. I didn't see anything in it that spoke badly of the royal family, which isn't surprising given how the rest of them seem to manage to function decently. I don't doubt they have their own frustrations but the others didn't need all this controversy to vent. The RF is an institution and all institutions need their rules to function and to make it coherent. The Queen was right when she told Harry the only alternative was to leave, but even Harry couldn't turn his escape into happiness, which tells you the real problem is him, not the royal family or others around him.

I highly doubt you've read the book. Had you read the book, you'd know that Harry isn't unhappy. Had you read the book, you'd realize how significant their need for security is and how The Firm makes it worse. Had you read the book, you'd know that because of how The Firm incorporated Harry into their production from birth, he can stop performing but he's still a member despite his unwillingness. It's like Hotel California. Just admit you didn't read the book.

I know no matter what I say you'll always be convinced I never read the book.

When you take the perspective the book was written by an unhappy man with an axe to grind and who is rather dim and short sighted, you'd see that it's someone amplifying many not atypical family frustrations and exploding it out on a bigger scale because of the backdrop of the royal family.

The royal family is an institution with its rules. There's a reason people refer to it as a firm. It is more than the sum of its members. And it abides by rules. Some of the rules don't make sense outside the family but they do exist, such as precedence and rituals. Many of the rules exist because of how the monarchy functions within Britain and the expectations for the family and how it needs to conduct itself. That's why the Queen said follow the rules or hit the road.

This.

+1 It's hard to argue Harry didn't write this book out of anger. To me he is as dim-witted as everyone says he is because he has made it clear he wants to remain within the royal fold in some capacity (demands security so he can keep visiting UK, wants titles for his children, and would jump at a chance for a half in half out role). He wants the royal pomp but on his own terms, and when that didn't happen he decided to seek revenge.

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And if the monarchy and specific people in it are so bad, why would he and Meghan choose to use the titles related to it?