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I live in Silver Spring. My neighbors are Christians from Guatemala and fit this description. |
I came to MoCo with my parents from El Salvador in the '80s. My family is very very religious (Catholic) and my parents love Halloween. It was something I was so excited to experience when I started school in the US. I have seen the waves of Central American immigrants change as more evangelicals from the US go down there on "mission" trips. The no pants, long hair evangelicos do not celebrate Halloween, but they are also (in general) not requesting it be removed from school. Yet they are the ones that will be/are being blamed for it. I have many people in my circle who are part of this evangelical community who keep their kids home from school on Halloween, do not allow celebrating, etc. But they do not object to others celebrating it (we're all going to hell, but I guess that's not their problem lol). The culture of most of central America means that parents would never, ever make a "demand" to the school, as teachers are highly respected and recognized as experts. Parents are not welcome to give their input. The way I see it, well-meaning people are trying to be inclusive and don't want kids to feel left out. But the parents of those kids don't care if they feel left out. Their faith is more important, and it means getting left out of stuff. They want their kids to learn that. |
I’m not in the Sherwood cluster, but our schools banned Halloween also. What ‘feedback’ was collected? Did they do a survey? Any discussion with parents and teachers before they cancelled Halloween? |
I understand you are speaking from the perspective of Central Americans who would not object, and who are also of a Catholic background, like myself. But there are other religious/cultural groups who may not feel the same. Imagine the Pilgrims being told that 1) they had to send their kids to school (yes I know we have homeschooling too) and 2) we were going to have a whole-school party where we dressed up in fictional costumes to celebrate the day when the veil between the worlds was thinnest, and we could contact spirits on the other side, and dress up like the Devil, witches, ghosts, or whatever we want. Do you think the Puritans would be OK with being told, "oh but it's tradition"! The earliest settlers came here precisely to get away from forced participation in religious/cultural activities they didn't want to be a part of. I don't understand why we get upset about returning to that principle. As long as we can do what we want at home and at Church, and turn off our porch light to not be bothered by trick or treaters, I don't see a problem. At all. |
True, but at a certain point, if there are enough kids in a particular school who opt out of the Halloween activities, the school has to dedicate so many resources towards providing an alternate activity for them while also doing the school-wide Halloween event that it becomes impractical. That's what happened at our school. |
You’re right and that’s exactly what I mean and maybe I wasn’t clear. My parents never requested anything but they simply kept me home and pulled me out. They would also never request books about magic, LGBT issues or sex and be pulled or banned but I was also prohibited from ever participating or reading those materials. Something I initially wrote but didn’t include in my comment was that although I was always pulled out of these events and never felt left out because since I was taught these were evil and demonic celebrations why would I miss it? YKWIM? I’m happy you’re backing up what I observe. This is not a Latino issue but it is an extreme religion issue. |
That’s not the reality of how Halloween is truly celebrated. It’s a costume day when you get candy. There’s spooky decorations. That’s it. Kids aren’t celebrating evil spirits. |
Except that nobody was forcing any child in MCPS to wear a costume or to participate in the Halloween celebration at school. Any family could choose to opt out. The school Halloween party/parade has never been mandatory in MCPS. Now, you have the flip side. A minority of families who disapprove of Halloween have resulted in Halloween being cancelled at school. So, you’re essentially forcing the beliefs of certain religious groups into the entire MCPS student population. Halloween is a fun, non-religious, traditional holiday in America. |
Agreed. We used to have Halloween parades. Nobody was forcing my kid to dress up as a devil or as a ghost. My DD was all princesses all the time. |
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Our school is having a fall festival event and my daughter is really excited. And I'm excited because i don't need to deal with a costume at school!
Growing up in the late 80s, early 90s, our schools didn't do dress up Halloween events to be sensitive to recent immigrant populations and their views on masks. It was totally fine.. |
Where do you draw the line? I have posted on here before (and been deleted) because my Christian Latina neighbor disapproves of the LGBQT books our MS Media Specialist picks out for the kids to read for Book Wars. She won’t let her DD participate. Which is find by me, and her right to opt her child out. Is it okay with you if MCPS decides that we need to ban all LGBQT book in order cater to her religious beliefs? |
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Banning Halloween at school is not ‘inclusive’ and ‘tolerant’.
It’s divisive and unnecessary. |
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I didn't read through 28 pages, but I do note that I sort of felt the same as you and then learned from our principal that around 15% of the kids sat out of halloween celebrations in our school. That felt like a lot of kids who are not able to join in on the fun. Though even just a few is sad, so perhaps I shouldn't focus so much on the number.
My kids will get costumes, trick or treating, etc. No one is cancelling halloween. It's worth sacrificing the school focus on halloween (the school does a fall festival thing instead) to teach them to think of others. |
"If I can't have it, nobody can." Nice lesson. |