Sidwell College Admissions This Year

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Land the helicopters people!

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So can anyone respond informatively about whether NCS gives naviance access to parents and students? Does NCS restrict the number of colleges applications for seniors?

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Maybe these Sidwell parents should go to Ukraine. I hear they need many saboteurs there.

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Anonymous wrote:I have a child who graduated from Stuyvesant HS in NYC, which is a large, public, test-in school. Parents and kids were given full access to Naviance and we found it really helpful in generating a college list. It was packed with data for the school and really good information. I'm really surprised that Sidwell doesn't give parents full access to Naviance.

People need to calm down. Sidwell senior parent here. We do not have remote access to Naviance but my DC made appointments with CCO to see graphs and I did as well. I wlll say there were some that were such a crap shoot it did not help with the list but I was allowed to see as many scattergrams as I wanted and DC was to. If you want to see the scattergrams - reach out to the CCO and look at them! Geez

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And if your individual counselor won't do it, then reach out to the department head. She is easy to work with.

My DC has the CC that severely limited access to Naviance and it was presented as CCO policy. How were we to know that other counselors were giving their seniors more, easier access? I didn't know until I started reading this thread, loooong after my DC's applications were complete.

In hindsight, I could have gone to the head of CC to ask for more, but should the CCO operate this way? Should parents be forced to read threads on DCUM to know what should be available to students and parents?

There has been a lot of bellyaching here about the Sidwell CCO not getting LARLA into Harvard, rude, demanding, entitled parents expecting XYZ because "that's what we paid for", etc and I have not doubt that is entirely driven by the DUCM troll army.

However, there are some very legitimate complaints about the Sidwell CCO being shared here, not the least of which being the extremely inconsistent level of "counseling" offered by the various CC's. I hope actual Sidwell parents (because, lets be honest, 50%?, 75%, of the posters here have no actual experience with Sidwell) will read the comments of other actual Sidwell parents who's experience differ and extend a little grace to those of us who've found the experience of working with the CCO to be frustrating and disappointing.

I agree with this 100%. I am a pp who has posted about the counselor severely limiting access and our frustrations.

Also, as to the suggestion that parents who were frustrated should have reached out to Lauren about it to get more access...really? First off, I am skeptical that such a meeting would have even been possible to arrange at all, or at minimum without seriously ruffling some feathers. Second, I agree with your take that it was presented as CCO policy. So I would have considered reaching out to her as essentially a complaint about their policy that would have been extremely unlikely to go anywhere, other than possibly provoking a bad reaction from the school. And given the amount of preemptive scolding that class of '22 parents received from Bryan and Mamadou about parents' dealings with the CCO (based on past parents' bad behavior), I think most parents reasonably would have been very reluctant to go down that road.

NP. I know of at least 2 parents who had the "bad" counselor who did this. They got a bit of a run around, but in the end, got the information they wanted. Agree with you that it's very bad form and parents should not have to play these ridiculous games. Class of '23 parents, take heed.

Can you give a hint who this “bad” counselor is?

Not PP. Is it MC?

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Anonymous wrote:new accept to GDS - do they get Naviance scattergram access in upper school?

No.

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DP. To be precise, GDS college counseling doesn't use Naviance at all. Only SCOIR. Maybe we don't know what we are missing but the CC office has done a great job of helping my student and their friends to shape their lists and manage EA/ED etc.

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Anonymous wrote:To be clear, Sidwell students have Naviance access, just not the scattergrams.

But the value of Naviance is the scattergram. Other information in Naviance is limited and you can get it from other sources.

Do they see the graphic that shows how many students applied each year including current one (that was useful to us, though you need to know it includes kids who started the application for a school but didn't finish it, so it is over representative) and the historical data on admissions and "currently attending" that is in list form (that is an easier starting point than having to click on every school to see the scattergram)?

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Anonymous wrote:To be clear, Sidwell students have Naviance access, just not the scattergrams.

But the value of Naviance is the scattergram. Other information in Naviance is limited and you can get it from other sources.

Do they see the graphic that shows how many students applied each year including current one (that was useful to us, though you need to know it includes kids who started the application for a school but didn't finish it, so it is over representative) and the historical data on admissions and "currently attending" that is in list form (that is an easier starting point than having to click on every school to see the scattergram)?

No. There is not any Sidwell-specific Naviance material provided. Just the general information about colleges.

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Anonymous wrote:So can anyone respond informatively about whether NCS gives naviance access to parents and students? Does NCS restrict the number of colleges applications for seniors?

NCS runs a very good college guidance office. Very helpful and professional- you will have no problems with the process and you will have the information that you need to make good decisions.

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Anonymous wrote:new accept to GDS - do they get Naviance scattergram access in upper school?

No.

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DP. To be precise, GDS college counseling doesn't use Naviance at all. Only SCOIR. Maybe we don't know what we are missing but the CC office has done a great job of helping my student and their friends to shape their lists and manage EA/ED etc.

SCOIR is very similar to Naviance and has scattergrams. Does GDS allow scattergrams in their SCOIR?

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Anonymous wrote:So can anyone respond informatively about whether NCS gives naviance access to parents and students? Does NCS restrict the number of colleges applications for seniors?

NCS uses SCOIR that is very similar to Naviance and allows parents and students access Scattergrams in SCOIR. NCS does NOT restrict the number of college applications for seniors.

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Anonymous wrote:new accept to GDS - do they get Naviance scattergram access in upper school?

No.

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DP. To be precise, GDS college counseling doesn't use Naviance at all. Only SCOIR. Maybe we don't know what we are missing but the CC office has done a great job of helping my student and their friends to shape their lists and manage EA/ED etc.

SCOIR is very similar to Naviance and has scattergrams. Does GDS allow scattergrams in their SCOIR?

No. Counselors access to info and will use to inform their advising but do not share with parents or students.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:To be clear, Sidwell students have Naviance access, just not the scattergrams.

But the value of Naviance is the scattergram. Other information in Naviance is limited and you can get it from other sources.

Do they see the graphic that shows how many students applied each year including current one (that was useful to us, though you need to know it includes kids who started the application for a school but didn't finish it, so it is over representative) and the historical data on admissions and "currently attending" that is in list form (that is an easier starting point than having to click on every school to see the scattergram)?

No. There is not any Sidwell-specific Naviance material provided. Just the general information about colleges.

What we are not seeing is the Sidwell-specific information in Naviance. That is what this whole discussion is about.

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Anonymous wrote:To be clear, Sidwell students have Naviance access, just not the scattergrams.

But the value of Naviance is the scattergram. Other information in Naviance is limited and you can get it from other sources.

Do they see the graphic that shows how many students applied each year including current one (that was useful to us, though you need to know it includes kids who started the application for a school but didn't finish it, so it is over representative) and the historical data on admissions and "currently attending" that is in list form (that is an easier starting point than having to click on every school to see the scattergram)?

No. There is not any Sidwell-specific Naviance material provided. Just the general information about colleges.

What we are not seeing is the Sidwell-specific information in Naviance. That is what this whole discussion is about.

PP you are responding to. I am not sure how you interpreted my post, but in any event we are in agreement.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:new accept to GDS - do they get Naviance scattergram access in upper school?

No.

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DP. To be precise, GDS college counseling doesn't use Naviance at all. Only SCOIR. Maybe we don't know what we are missing but the CC office has done a great job of helping my student and their friends to shape their lists and manage EA/ED etc.

SCOIR is very similar to Naviance and has scattergrams. Does GDS allow scattergrams in their SCOIR?

No. Counselors access to info and will use to inform their advising but do not share with parents or students.

I asked my DD's counselor and was told the info was internal only!!!

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Anonymous wrote:new accept to GDS - do they get Naviance scattergram access in upper school?

No.

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DP. To be precise, GDS college counseling doesn't use Naviance at all. Only SCOIR. Maybe we don't know what we are missing but the CC office has done a great job of helping my student and their friends to shape their lists and manage EA/ED etc.

SCOIR is very similar to Naviance and has scattergrams. Does GDS allow scattergrams in their SCOIR?

No. Counselors access to info and will use to inform their advising but do not share with parents or students.

I asked my DD's counselor and was told the info was internal only!!!

My DC was able to see all scattergrams with the counselor. They never had an issue going over them with and actually was always very supportive even when scattergrams looked like a long shot. And I’m glad counselor never discouraged because some of those reaches worked out. If counselor had discouraged as you all want them to do, we would never have known that admissions are just a crapshoot. And sometimes you can get in without being at the top.