FCPS Boundary Review Updates

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Anonymous wrote:Nobody is promised to be zoned to certain public schools in perpetuity when they buy a house. I understand it must be frustrating if you had made certain plans, but there is always a chance your home will get redistricted.

This is why we didn’t spend every last penny to buy a house in the best district we could afford.


Good for you. Thanks for repeating the quotes from the gatehouse playbook. No one on this thread ever has said that they were promised a certain school in perpetuity. That doesn’t mean people want their kids to get moved from a good school to a terrible school.


I have no problem with people organizing to get what they want, but sometimes you will be disappointed with the results. Maybe in this case your home will get re-districted, maybe it won’t.

I just cannot with the trashing of schools like Edison, Falls Church and Herndon on this thread. I feel like the teachers and admin are doing the best they can with the student bodies they were dealt. There are many stories of successful students coming out of those schools, despite being ESOL and poor.


The funny thing is that it’s usually posters in these very pyramids that are trying to foment a race/class war among neighbors who tend to disparage those schools in an attempt to put words in other posters’ mouths.

Most everyone else just want stability.


Nah, the Langley folks regularly trash Herndon on the FairFACTS FB page and elsewhere. And the admins of that page leave it up so they must agree.


I’ve seen posts on that Facebook page calling Langley kids idiots, so it’s quite clear they want that page to be an open dialogue.

Face it, you are just wasting your time trying to paint fairfacts matters as the bad guys. You’re just grasping at any straw you can.
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Anonymous wrote:Nobody is promised to be zoned to certain public schools in perpetuity when they buy a house. I understand it must be frustrating if you had made certain plans, but there is always a chance your home will get redistricted.

This is why we didn’t spend every last penny to buy a house in the best district we could afford.


Good for you. Thanks for repeating the quotes from the gatehouse playbook. No one on this thread ever has said that they were promised a certain school in perpetuity. That doesn’t mean people want their kids to get moved from a good school to a terrible school.


I have no problem with people organizing to get what they want, but sometimes you will be disappointed with the results. Maybe in this case your home will get re-districted, maybe it won’t.

I just cannot with the trashing of schools like Edison, Falls Church and Herndon on this thread. I feel like the teachers and admin are doing the best they can with the student bodies they were dealt. There are many stories of successful students coming out of those schools, despite being ESOL and poor.


The funny thing is that it’s usually posters in these very pyramids that are trying to foment a race/class war among neighbors who tend to disparage those schools in an attempt to put words in other posters’ mouths.

Most everyone else just want stability.


So, would you choose stability over some redisdricting even if your school was at 120% capacity? It is normal, and expected, for public schools to go through re-districting every so often. Some families will stay put, and others might have to make the best of a new situation. It’s life.


Tell you what, why don’t we ask those families that you’re talking about moving . If they want to be moved, then move them.
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Anonymous wrote:Nobody is promised to be zoned to certain public schools in perpetuity when they buy a house. I understand it must be frustrating if you had made certain plans, but there is always a chance your home will get redistricted.

This is why we didn’t spend every last penny to buy a house in the best district we could afford.


Good for you. Thanks for repeating the quotes from the gatehouse playbook. No one on this thread ever has said that they were promised a certain school in perpetuity. That doesn’t mean people want their kids to get moved from a good school to a terrible school.


I have no problem with people organizing to get what they want, but sometimes you will be disappointed with the results. Maybe in this case your home will get re-districted, maybe it won’t.

I just cannot with the trashing of schools like Edison, Falls Church and Herndon on this thread. I feel like the teachers and admin are doing the best they can with the student bodies they were dealt. There are many stories of successful students coming out of those schools, despite being ESOL and poor.


The funny thing is that it’s usually posters in these very pyramids that are trying to foment a race/class war among neighbors who tend to disparage those schools in an attempt to put words in other posters’ mouths.

Most everyone else just want stability.


So, would you choose stability over some redisdricting even if your school was at 120% capacity? It is normal, and expected, for public schools to go through re-districting every so often. Some families will stay put, and others might have to make the best of a new situation. It’s life.


Yes.

Stability over redistricting, even if the school is over capacity.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Nobody is promised to be zoned to certain public schools in perpetuity when they buy a house. I understand it must be frustrating if you had made certain plans, but there is always a chance your home will get redistricted.

This is why we didn’t spend every last penny to buy a house in the best district we could afford.


Good for you. Thanks for repeating the quotes from the gatehouse playbook. No one on this thread ever has said that they were promised a certain school in perpetuity. That doesn’t mean people want their kids to get moved from a good school to a terrible school.


I have no problem with people organizing to get what they want, but sometimes you will be disappointed with the results. Maybe in this case your home will get re-districted, maybe it won’t.

I just cannot with the trashing of schools like Edison, Falls Church and Herndon on this thread. I feel like the teachers and admin are doing the best they can with the student bodies they were dealt. There are many stories of successful students coming out of those schools, despite being ESOL and poor.


The funny thing is that it’s usually posters in these very pyramids that are trying to foment a race/class war among neighbors who tend to disparage those schools in an attempt to put words in other posters’ mouths.

Most everyone else just want stability.


Nah, the Langley folks regularly trash Herndon on the FairFACTS FB page and elsewhere. And the admins of that page leave it up so they must agree.


I’ve seen posts on that Facebook page calling Langley kids idiots, so it’s quite clear they want that page to be an open dialogue.

Face it, you are just wasting your time trying to paint fairfacts matters as the bad guys. You’re just grasping at any straw you can.


The admins of that page can be quite sanctimonious and occasionally talk about the need for civility, but Great Falls posters who trash Herndon are never met with that reminder.
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Anonymous wrote:Nobody is promised to be zoned to certain public schools in perpetuity when they buy a house. I understand it must be frustrating if you had made certain plans, but there is always a chance your home will get redistricted.

This is why we didn’t spend every last penny to buy a house in the best district we could afford.


Good for you. Thanks for repeating the quotes from the gatehouse playbook. No one on this thread ever has said that they were promised a certain school in perpetuity. That doesn’t mean people want their kids to get moved from a good school to a terrible school.


I have no problem with people organizing to get what they want, but sometimes you will be disappointed with the results. Maybe in this case your home will get re-districted, maybe it won’t.

I just cannot with the trashing of schools like Edison, Falls Church and Herndon on this thread. I feel like the teachers and admin are doing the best they can with the student bodies they were dealt. There are many stories of successful students coming out of those schools, despite being ESOL and poor.


Don't you realize how offensive it is to those students to push for other kids to be involuntarily rezoned to these schools to make them acceptable to the school board and others pushing for rezoning?

If a school is losing 250-300 higher performing students with involved parents each year via the IB to AP escape route, then don't you think that the logical place to start is to eliminate IB and close that loophole, before the school board tries to capture and rezone kids from a different high school to "fix" the IB school and backfill the students whose parents bought homes in the low performing IB school?

If they keep schools like Lewis IB, then FCPS needs to disallow transfers for freshmen and sophomores, since Lewis can, and in some instances already is, offering the 1 to 3 AP classes that freshmen and sophomores are able to take at the IB schools.

IB and AP transfers need to also include a requirement that students take a full courseload of AP classes or are pursuing the IB diploma, for every year they attend a different school, not just a token single AP class as is now required to get the transfer.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Nobody is promised to be zoned to certain public schools in perpetuity when they buy a house. I understand it must be frustrating if you had made certain plans, but there is always a chance your home will get redistricted.

This is why we didn’t spend every last penny to buy a house in the best district we could afford.


Good for you. Thanks for repeating the quotes from the gatehouse playbook. No one on this thread ever has said that they were promised a certain school in perpetuity. That doesn’t mean people want their kids to get moved from a good school to a terrible school.


I have no problem with people organizing to get what they want, but sometimes you will be disappointed with the results. Maybe in this case your home will get re-districted, maybe it won’t.

I just cannot with the trashing of schools like Edison, Falls Church and Herndon on this thread. I feel like the teachers and admin are doing the best they can with the student bodies they were dealt. There are many stories of successful students coming out of those schools, despite being ESOL and poor.


Don't you realize how offensive it is to those students to push for other kids to be involuntarily rezoned to these schools to make them acceptable to the school board and others pushing for rezoning?

If a school is losing 250-300 higher performing students with involved parents each year via the IB to AP escape route, then don't you think that the logical place to start is to eliminate IB and close that loophole, before the school board tries to capture and rezone kids from a different high school to "fix" the IB school and backfill the students whose parents bought homes in the low performing IB school?

If they keep schools like Lewis IB, then FCPS needs to disallow transfers for freshmen and sophomores, since Lewis can, and in some instances already is, offering the 1 to 3 AP classes that freshmen and sophomores are able to take at the IB schools.

IB and AP transfers need to also include a requirement that students take a full courseload of AP classes or are pursuing the IB diploma, for every year they attend a different school, not just a token single AP class as is now required to get the transfer.


Sure. I have no problem with eliminating IB and making all kids attend their base school. Also no language or ROTC transfers. If this were to happen, and some schools were still WAY over capacity, would redistricting be acceptable in your eyes?
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Nobody is promised to be zoned to certain public schools in perpetuity when they buy a house. I understand it must be frustrating if you had made certain plans, but there is always a chance your home will get redistricted.

This is why we didn’t spend every last penny to buy a house in the best district we could afford.


Good for you. Thanks for repeating the quotes from the gatehouse playbook. No one on this thread ever has said that they were promised a certain school in perpetuity. That doesn’t mean people want their kids to get moved from a good school to a terrible school.


I have no problem with people organizing to get what they want, but sometimes you will be disappointed with the results. Maybe in this case your home will get re-districted, maybe it won’t.

I just cannot with the trashing of schools like Edison, Falls Church and Herndon on this thread. I feel like the teachers and admin are doing the best they can with the student bodies they were dealt. There are many stories of successful students coming out of those schools, despite being ESOL and poor.


Don't you realize how offensive it is to those students to push for other kids to be involuntarily rezoned to these schools to make them acceptable to the school board and others pushing for rezoning?

If a school is losing 250-300 higher performing students with involved parents each year via the IB to AP escape route, then don't you think that the logical place to start is to eliminate IB and close that loophole, before the school board tries to capture and rezone kids from a different high school to "fix" the IB school and backfill the students whose parents bought homes in the low performing IB school?

If they keep schools like Lewis IB, then FCPS needs to disallow transfers for freshmen and sophomores, since Lewis can, and in some instances already is, offering the 1 to 3 AP classes that freshmen and sophomores are able to take at the IB schools.

IB and AP transfers need to also include a requirement that students take a full courseload of AP classes or are pursuing the IB diploma, for every year they attend a different school, not just a token single AP class as is now required to get the transfer.


Sure. I have no problem with eliminating IB and making all kids attend their base school. Also no language or ROTC transfers. If this were to happen, and some schools were still WAY over capacity, would redistricting be acceptable in your eyes?


If we’re not going to allow language transfers then all but a common core of languages available at every school should be online.
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Anonymous wrote:Come on, folks.

Let’s be realistic. The school board will never approve a move from Langley to Herndon. Herndon is over 60% capacity, and when/if South Lakes High School (SLHS) closes to transfers, Herndon’s enrollment will only increase.

Let’s stop talking about that scenario. It’s a waste of time.


They seem fairly anchored to leaving schools within the 60-105% range alone, but that's just one of their "guiding principles." They also refer to alignment with Policy 8130 and the SB (if not Thru) could identify that as an independent basis to move kids from Langley to Herndon regardless of whether Langley is over 105% or Herndon under 60%.

I'm not advocating for this. I just think that, politically, the optics are horrible if they propose to move kids who live within a mile or two of West Springfield to Lewis or South County, and do nothing to move at least some Langley kids to Herndon when Herndon is much closer. It makes it look as if all the talk about transportation efficiencies was a sham and they got bullied into leaving Langley alone. I've heard all the arguments about how traffic is worse in Herndon so the commuting times wouldn't be reduced as much as you'd think, but people will look at the maps and draw their own conclusions.




They don't really care about optics when it comes to Langley/Herndon.

For the past ten years, I've heard talk of moving Great Falls kids from Langley to Herndon. For some reason, certain posters keep bringing it up.

Doesn’t matter what they think. It's not going to happen.

Full stop.



Why because you and your rich friends founded some sort of association that is lobbying against it? Donating thousands to school board members? You're trying to buy your way out of being rezoned and everybody knows it.


I am in FairFACTs Matters and no where close to Langley nor Herndon. Nor WSHS and Lewis.

There’s also no requirement to donate anything.


+2 it’s literally just a FB group. You can join it whenever you want!


A Fb group that raised over $50,000.


They regularly pay for FOIA requests, which add up.

I wouldn't donate to them, but I hope they are using the funds for what they were intended for.


Thanks for that information. Sad that there has to be a group that needs FOIA. I am grateful to those who donate. If FCPS would be more transparent, FOIA would not be necessary.



It was only through FairFacts’ advocacy that the BRAC member list was disclosed and that they started putting their meeting notes online. Otherwise we’d all be in the dark about this.


Also noting they just posted this. Thus far, this has been the only way for community members to engage with the closed-door BRAC. The pyramid nor special interest members are not doing this unless you happen to have a direct connection.

“For those looking to send community feedback, please email us at brac@fairfactsmatters.org with your questions or comments. We have already submitted three communications reflecting community feedback and will continue to share the most commonly asked questions moving forward. We will provide previous communications with community feedback below.“


How disgusting that these people are only sharing information with a small handful of members of the county who live in one specific area and not everyone.

Also it's clearly not a Facebook group when they have their own domain.


Anyone can join their Facebook group completely free of charge. It's a very large group representing many pyramids. If you are against rezoning, I highly recommend you join for the free information, collaboration and engagement. And if anything, it's pretty much the only way public community members can provide any suggestions to BRAC.

FairFACTs Matters is not the bad guys here...


+1. At least 1 non Langley in boundary BRAC has posted. Anyone can approve or not approve of specific boundary changes.
Anyone see this stuff in a normally scoped boundary process over the last few decades?

New for this process are:
1 FCPS choosing to bus walkers [exception closing Graham Rd and the Whitman/Sandburg mess]
2 bulk movement of newly defined or pre existing SPAs. I have seen splits in what would be an SPA based on transportation, different and non adjacent developments/complexes.
3 the thresholds of 60% uitilization to 105% utilization. Apparently Thru/Reid think it's just fine to draw down a site to anything over 60% and bump others to over 100%.

So Kilmer lost an inexplicable 200 capacity or so from CIP to CIP. Parklawn and Coates have boundary proceesses. Just looking at Parklawn as an example, Thru is using program capacity with modular. That's 10 rooms but there are 19 trailers on site also.
https://www.fcps.edu/system/files/forms/2025-04/4-11-2025_superintendent_boundary_review_advisory_committee_presentation.pdf slide 36

So are some of the 19 trailers just sitting there like an old car in a junkyard? What are they uesed for? Actual use for students means FCPS has the wrong program capacity on the CIP and that is being used by Thru. CIP SY 2029-30 has Parklawn at 99%.
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Anonymous wrote:Come on, folks.

Let’s be realistic. The school board will never approve a move from Langley to Herndon. Herndon is over 60% capacity, and when/if South Lakes High School (SLHS) closes to transfers, Herndon’s enrollment will only increase.

Let’s stop talking about that scenario. It’s a waste of time.


They seem fairly anchored to leaving schools within the 60-105% range alone, but that's just one of their "guiding principles." They also refer to alignment with Policy 8130 and the SB (if not Thru) could identify that as an independent basis to move kids from Langley to Herndon regardless of whether Langley is over 105% or Herndon under 60%.

I'm not advocating for this. I just think that, politically, the optics are horrible if they propose to move kids who live within a mile or two of West Springfield to Lewis or South County, and do nothing to move at least some Langley kids to Herndon when Herndon is much closer. It makes it look as if all the talk about transportation efficiencies was a sham and they got bullied into leaving Langley alone. I've heard all the arguments about how traffic is worse in Herndon so the commuting times wouldn't be reduced as much as you'd think, but people will look at the maps and draw their own conclusions.




They don't really care about optics when it comes to Langley/Herndon.

For the past ten years, I've heard talk of moving Great Falls kids from Langley to Herndon. For some reason, certain posters keep bringing it up.

Doesn’t matter what they think. It's not going to happen.

Full stop.



Why because you and your rich friends founded some sort of association that is lobbying against it? Donating thousands to school board members? You're trying to buy your way out of being rezoned and everybody knows it.


I am in FairFACTs Matters and no where close to Langley nor Herndon. Nor WSHS and Lewis.

There’s also no requirement to donate anything.


+2 it’s literally just a FB group. You can join it whenever you want!


A Fb group that raised over $50,000.


They regularly pay for FOIA requests, which add up.

I wouldn't donate to them, but I hope they are using the funds for what they were intended for.


Thanks for that information. Sad that there has to be a group that needs FOIA. I am grateful to those who donate. If FCPS would be more transparent, FOIA would not be necessary.



It was only through FairFacts’ advocacy that the BRAC member list was disclosed and that they started putting their meeting notes online. Otherwise we’d all be in the dark about this.


Also noting they just posted this. Thus far, this has been the only way for community members to engage with the closed-door BRAC. The pyramid nor special interest members are not doing this unless you happen to have a direct connection.

“For those looking to send community feedback, please email us at brac@fairfactsmatters.org with your questions or comments. We have already submitted three communications reflecting community feedback and will continue to share the most commonly asked questions moving forward. We will provide previous communications with community feedback below.“


How disgusting that these people are only sharing information with a small handful of members of the county who live in one specific area and not everyone.

Also it's clearly not a Facebook group when they have their own domain.


Anyone can join their Facebook group completely free of charge. It's a very large group representing many pyramids. If you are against rezoning, I highly recommend you join for the free information, collaboration and engagement. And if anything, it's pretty much the only way public community members can provide any suggestions to BRAC.

FairFACTs Matters is not the bad guys here...


+1. At least 1 non Langley in boundary BRAC has posted. Anyone can approve or not approve of specific boundary changes.
Anyone see this stuff in a normally scoped boundary process over the last few decades?

New for this process are:
1 FCPS choosing to bus walkers [exception closing Graham Rd and the Whitman/Sandburg mess]
2 bulk movement of newly defined or pre existing SPAs. I have seen splits in what would be an SPA based on transportation, different and non adjacent developments/complexes.
3 the thresholds of 60% uitilization to 105% utilization. Apparently Thru/Reid think it's just fine to draw down a site to anything over 60% and bump others to over 100%.

So Kilmer lost an inexplicable 200 capacity or so from CIP to CIP. Parklawn and Coates have boundary proceesses. Just looking at Parklawn as an example, Thru is using program capacity with modular. That's 10 rooms but there are 19 trailers on site also.
https://www.fcps.edu/system/files/forms/2025-04/4-11-2025_superintendent_boundary_review_advisory_committee_presentation.pdf slide 36

So are some of the 19 trailers just sitting there like an old car in a junkyard? What are they uesed for? Actual use for students means FCPS has the wrong program capacity on the CIP and that is being used by Thru. CIP SY 2029-30 has Parklawn at 99%.


That’s quite a grab bag of…something.
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Anonymous wrote:Come on, folks.

Let’s be realistic. The school board will never approve a move from Langley to Herndon. Herndon is over 60% capacity, and when/if South Lakes High School (SLHS) closes to transfers, Herndon’s enrollment will only increase.

Let’s stop talking about that scenario. It’s a waste of time.


They seem fairly anchored to leaving schools within the 60-105% range alone, but that's just one of their "guiding principles." They also refer to alignment with Policy 8130 and the SB (if not Thru) could identify that as an independent basis to move kids from Langley to Herndon regardless of whether Langley is over 105% or Herndon under 60%.

I'm not advocating for this. I just think that, politically, the optics are horrible if they propose to move kids who live within a mile or two of West Springfield to Lewis or South County, and do nothing to move at least some Langley kids to Herndon when Herndon is much closer. It makes it look as if all the talk about transportation efficiencies was a sham and they got bullied into leaving Langley alone. I've heard all the arguments about how traffic is worse in Herndon so the commuting times wouldn't be reduced as much as you'd think, but people will look at the maps and draw their own conclusions.




They don't really care about optics when it comes to Langley/Herndon.

For the past ten years, I've heard talk of moving Great Falls kids from Langley to Herndon. For some reason, certain posters keep bringing it up.

Doesn’t matter what they think. It's not going to happen.

Full stop.



Why because you and your rich friends founded some sort of association that is lobbying against it? Donating thousands to school board members? You're trying to buy your way out of being rezoned and everybody knows it.


I am in FairFACTs Matters and no where close to Langley nor Herndon. Nor WSHS and Lewis.

There’s also no requirement to donate anything.


+2 it’s literally just a FB group. You can join it whenever you want!


A Fb group that raised over $50,000.


They regularly pay for FOIA requests, which add up.

I wouldn't donate to them, but I hope they are using the funds for what they were intended for.


Thanks for that information. Sad that there has to be a group that needs FOIA. I am grateful to those who donate. If FCPS would be more transparent, FOIA would not be necessary.



It was only through FairFacts’ advocacy that the BRAC member list was disclosed and that they started putting their meeting notes online. Otherwise we’d all be in the dark about this.


Also noting they just posted this. Thus far, this has been the only way for community members to engage with the closed-door BRAC. The pyramid nor special interest members are not doing this unless you happen to have a direct connection.

“For those looking to send community feedback, please email us at brac@fairfactsmatters.org with your questions or comments. We have already submitted three communications reflecting community feedback and will continue to share the most commonly asked questions moving forward. We will provide previous communications with community feedback below.“


How disgusting that these people are only sharing information with a small handful of members of the county who live in one specific area and not everyone.

Also it's clearly not a Facebook group when they have their own domain.


Anyone can join their Facebook group completely free of charge. It's a very large group representing many pyramids. If you are against rezoning, I highly recommend you join for the free information, collaboration and engagement. And if anything, it's pretty much the only way public community members can provide any suggestions to BRAC.

FairFACTs Matters is not the bad guys here...


+1. At least 1 non Langley in boundary BRAC has posted. Anyone can approve or not approve of specific boundary changes.
Anyone see this stuff in a normally scoped boundary process over the last few decades?

New for this process are:
1 FCPS choosing to bus walkers [exception closing Graham Rd and the Whitman/Sandburg mess]
2 bulk movement of newly defined or pre existing SPAs. I have seen splits in what would be an SPA based on transportation, different and non adjacent developments/complexes.
3 the thresholds of 60% uitilization to 105% utilization. Apparently Thru/Reid think it's just fine to draw down a site to anything over 60% and bump others to over 100%.

So Kilmer lost an inexplicable 200 capacity or so from CIP to CIP. Parklawn and Coates have boundary proceesses. Just looking at Parklawn as an example, Thru is using program capacity with modular. That's 10 rooms but there are 19 trailers on site also.
https://www.fcps.edu/system/files/forms/2025-04/4-11-2025_superintendent_boundary_review_advisory_committee_presentation.pdf slide 36

So are some of the 19 trailers just sitting there like an old car in a junkyard? What are they uesed for? Actual use for students means FCPS has the wrong program capacity on the CIP and that is being used by Thru. CIP SY 2029-30 has Parklawn at 99%.


That’s quite a grab bag of…something.


I wrote a grab bag and please provide insight if you have any. Think about the Parklawn example. 99% is 7% lower than the Thru 106% trigger. 105% is ok to not adjust.
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Anonymous wrote:Nobody is promised to be zoned to certain public schools in perpetuity when they buy a house. I understand it must be frustrating if you had made certain plans, but there is always a chance your home will get redistricted.

This is why we didn’t spend every last penny to buy a house in the best district we could afford.


Good for you. Thanks for repeating the quotes from the gatehouse playbook. No one on this thread ever has said that they were promised a certain school in perpetuity. That doesn’t mean people want their kids to get moved from a good school to a terrible school.


I have no problem with people organizing to get what they want, but sometimes you will be disappointed with the results. Maybe in this case your home will get re-districted, maybe it won’t.

I just cannot with the trashing of schools like Edison, Falls Church and Herndon on this thread. I feel like the teachers and admin are doing the best they can with the student bodies they were dealt. There are many stories of successful students coming out of those schools, despite being ESOL and poor.


Don't you realize how offensive it is to those students to push for other kids to be involuntarily rezoned to these schools to make them acceptable to the school board and others pushing for rezoning?

If a school is losing 250-300 higher performing students with involved parents each year via the IB to AP escape route, then don't you think that the logical place to start is to eliminate IB and close that loophole, before the school board tries to capture and rezone kids from a different high school to "fix" the IB school and backfill the students whose parents bought homes in the low performing IB school?

If they keep schools like Lewis IB, then FCPS needs to disallow transfers for freshmen and sophomores, since Lewis can, and in some instances already is, offering the 1 to 3 AP classes that freshmen and sophomores are able to take at the IB schools.

IB and AP transfers need to also include a requirement that students take a full courseload of AP classes or are pursuing the IB diploma, for every year they attend a different school, not just a token single AP class as is now required to get the transfer.


Sure. I have no problem with eliminating IB and making all kids attend their base school. Also no language or ROTC transfers. If this were to happen, and some schools were still WAY over capacity, would redistricting be acceptable in your eyes?


Add trailers first.

That was the recommendation from the other $500,000 rezoning study that FCPS paid for right before pandemic.
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Anonymous wrote:Nobody is promised to be zoned to certain public schools in perpetuity when they buy a house. I understand it must be frustrating if you had made certain plans, but there is always a chance your home will get redistricted.

This is why we didn’t spend every last penny to buy a house in the best district we could afford.


Good for you. Thanks for repeating the quotes from the gatehouse playbook. No one on this thread ever has said that they were promised a certain school in perpetuity. That doesn’t mean people want their kids to get moved from a good school to a terrible school.


I have no problem with people organizing to get what they want, but sometimes you will be disappointed with the results. Maybe in this case your home will get re-districted, maybe it won’t.

I just cannot with the trashing of schools like Edison, Falls Church and Herndon on this thread. I feel like the teachers and admin are doing the best they can with the student bodies they were dealt. There are many stories of successful students coming out of those schools, despite being ESOL and poor.


Don't you realize how offensive it is to those students to push for other kids to be involuntarily rezoned to these schools to make them acceptable to the school board and others pushing for rezoning?

If a school is losing 250-300 higher performing students with involved parents each year via the IB to AP escape route, then don't you think that the logical place to start is to eliminate IB and close that loophole, before the school board tries to capture and rezone kids from a different high school to "fix" the IB school and backfill the students whose parents bought homes in the low performing IB school?

If they keep schools like Lewis IB, then FCPS needs to disallow transfers for freshmen and sophomores, since Lewis can, and in some instances already is, offering the 1 to 3 AP classes that freshmen and sophomores are able to take at the IB schools.

IB and AP transfers need to also include a requirement that students take a full courseload of AP classes or are pursuing the IB diploma, for every year they attend a different school, not just a token single AP class as is now required to get the transfer.


Sure. I have no problem with eliminating IB and making all kids attend their base school. Also no language or ROTC transfers. If this were to happen, and some schools were still WAY over capacity, would redistricting be acceptable in your eyes?


Add trailers first.

That was the recommendation from the other $500,000 rezoning study that FCPS paid for right before pandemic.


Especially at the high school level.

High schools are why people purchase their homes.

And teenagers are the group most negatively impacted by changing schools.

FCPS should do everything possible to avoid rezoning high school students or changing high school boundaries.
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Anonymous wrote:Nobody is promised to be zoned to certain public schools in perpetuity when they buy a house. I understand it must be frustrating if you had made certain plans, but there is always a chance your home will get redistricted.

This is why we didn’t spend every last penny to buy a house in the best district we could afford.


Good for you. Thanks for repeating the quotes from the gatehouse playbook. No one on this thread ever has said that they were promised a certain school in perpetuity. That doesn’t mean people want their kids to get moved from a good school to a terrible school.


I have no problem with people organizing to get what they want, but sometimes you will be disappointed with the results. Maybe in this case your home will get re-districted, maybe it won’t.

I just cannot with the trashing of schools like Edison, Falls Church and Herndon on this thread. I feel like the teachers and admin are doing the best they can with the student bodies they were dealt. There are many stories of successful students coming out of those schools, despite being ESOL and poor.


Don't you realize how offensive it is to those students to push for other kids to be involuntarily rezoned to these schools to make them acceptable to the school board and others pushing for rezoning?

If a school is losing 250-300 higher performing students with involved parents each year via the IB to AP escape route, then don't you think that the logical place to start is to eliminate IB and close that loophole, before the school board tries to capture and rezone kids from a different high school to "fix" the IB school and backfill the students whose parents bought homes in the low performing IB school?

If they keep schools like Lewis IB, then FCPS needs to disallow transfers for freshmen and sophomores, since Lewis can, and in some instances already is, offering the 1 to 3 AP classes that freshmen and sophomores are able to take at the IB schools.

IB and AP transfers need to also include a requirement that students take a full courseload of AP classes or are pursuing the IB diploma, for every year they attend a different school, not just a token single AP class as is now required to get the transfer.


Sure. I have no problem with eliminating IB and making all kids attend their base school. Also no language or ROTC transfers. If this were to happen, and some schools were still WAY over capacity, would redistricting be acceptable in your eyes?


Add trailers first.

That was the recommendation from the other $500,000 rezoning study that FCPS paid for right before pandemic.


Especially at the high school level.

High schools are why people purchase their homes.

And teenagers are the group most negatively impacted by changing schools.

FCPS should do everything possible to avoid rezoning high school students or changing high school boundaries.


This.

After reading these pages, I do realize there are some really overcrowded elementary schools.

Someone asked earlier if we would want to move our kids if the school was overcrowded. I think a lot depends on the location and the age.


For my neighborhood, our high school is close, but crowded. It has a compact boundary and I think anyone that is moved will have to go further away. The school functions where it is and is projected to lose membership over the next years.

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How did Kilmer lose 200 in capacity? Did they break down a modular?
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Anonymous wrote:Nobody is promised to be zoned to certain public schools in perpetuity when they buy a house. I understand it must be frustrating if you had made certain plans, but there is always a chance your home will get redistricted.

This is why we didn’t spend every last penny to buy a house in the best district we could afford.


Good for you. Thanks for repeating the quotes from the gatehouse playbook. No one on this thread ever has said that they were promised a certain school in perpetuity. That doesn’t mean people want their kids to get moved from a good school to a terrible school.


I have no problem with people organizing to get what they want, but sometimes you will be disappointed with the results. Maybe in this case your home will get re-districted, maybe it won’t.

I just cannot with the trashing of schools like Edison, Falls Church and Herndon on this thread. I feel like the teachers and admin are doing the best they can with the student bodies they were dealt. There are many stories of successful students coming out of those schools, despite being ESOL and poor.


The funny thing is that it’s usually posters in these very pyramids that are trying to foment a race/class war among neighbors who tend to disparage those schools in an attempt to put words in other posters’ mouths.

Most everyone else just want stability.


Nah, the Langley folks regularly trash Herndon on the FairFACTS FB page and elsewhere. And the admins of that page leave it up so they must agree.


I’ve seen posts on that Facebook page calling Langley kids idiots, so it’s quite clear they want that page to be an open dialogue.

Face it, you are just wasting your time trying to paint fairfacts matters as the bad guys. You’re just grasping at any straw you can.


The admins of that page can be quite sanctimonious and occasionally talk about the need for civility, but Great Falls posters who trash Herndon are never met with that reminder.


Not only that but more than one person has made nasty weird political comments about the families at Herndon. I finally googled him. Turns out he works for some rag like the daily signal or whatever the magat propaganda of the week is.
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