FCPS Boundary Review Updates

[Anonymous]

The thing is, you werent owed a high school when you purchased your home. You were owed a high school. And if you don’t like the one you’ve got, you can go private.

I’m not saying it’s perfect but people can’t complain about taxes out of one side of their mouths and their zoned high school out of the other. Taxes pay for civilization.

I like our high school quite a lot and it is much maligned on DCUM as well as that Facebook page. Those people have no idea what they’re talking about.

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Anonymous wrote:Nobody is promised to be zoned to certain public schools in perpetuity when they buy a house. I understand it must be frustrating if you had made certain plans, but there is always a chance your home will get redistricted.

This is why we didn’t spend every last penny to buy a house in the best district we could afford.

Good for you. Thanks for repeating the quotes from the gatehouse playbook. No one on this thread ever has said that they were promised a certain school in perpetuity. That doesn’t mean people want their kids to get moved from a good school to a terrible school.

I have no problem with people organizing to get what they want, but sometimes you will be disappointed with the results. Maybe in this case your home will get re-districted, maybe it won’t.

I just cannot with the trashing of schools like Edison, Falls Church and Herndon on this thread. I feel like the teachers and admin are doing the best they can with the student bodies they were dealt. There are many stories of successful students coming out of those schools, despite being ESOL and poor.

Don't you realize how offensive it is to those students to push for other kids to be involuntarily rezoned to these schools to make them acceptable to the school board and others pushing for rezoning?

If a school is losing 250-300 higher performing students with involved parents each year via the IB to AP escape route, then don't you think that the logical place to start is to eliminate IB and close that loophole, before the school board tries to capture and rezone kids from a different high school to "fix" the IB school and backfill the students whose parents bought homes in the low performing IB school?

If they keep schools like Lewis IB, then FCPS needs to disallow transfers for freshmen and sophomores, since Lewis can, and in some instances already is, offering the 1 to 3 AP classes that freshmen and sophomores are able to take at the IB schools.

IB and AP transfers need to also include a requirement that students take a full courseload of AP classes or are pursuing the IB diploma, for every year they attend a different school, not just a token single AP class as is now required to get the transfer.

Sure. I have no problem with eliminating IB and making all kids attend their base school. Also no language or ROTC transfers. If this were to happen, and some schools were still WAY over capacity, would redistricting be acceptable in your eyes?

Add trailers first.

That was the recommendation from the other $500,000 rezoning study that FCPS paid for right before pandemic.

Especially at the high school level.

High schools are why people purchase their homes.

And teenagers are the group most negatively impacted by changing schools.

FCPS should do everything possible to avoid rezoning high school students or changing high school boundaries.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The thing is, you werent owed a high school when you purchased your home. You were owed a high school. And if you don’t like the one you’ve got, you can go private.

I’m not saying it’s perfect but people can’t complain about taxes out of one side of their mouths and their zoned high school out of the other. Taxes pay for civilization.

I like our high school quite a lot and it is much maligned on DCUM as well as that Facebook page. Those people have no idea what they’re talking about.

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Anonymous wrote:Nobody is promised to be zoned to certain public schools in perpetuity when they buy a house. I understand it must be frustrating if you had made certain plans, but there is always a chance your home will get redistricted.

This is why we didn’t spend every last penny to buy a house in the best district we could afford.

Good for you. Thanks for repeating the quotes from the gatehouse playbook. No one on this thread ever has said that they were promised a certain school in perpetuity. That doesn’t mean people want their kids to get moved from a good school to a terrible school.

I have no problem with people organizing to get what they want, but sometimes you will be disappointed with the results. Maybe in this case your home will get re-districted, maybe it won’t.

I just cannot with the trashing of schools like Edison, Falls Church and Herndon on this thread. I feel like the teachers and admin are doing the best they can with the student bodies they were dealt. There are many stories of successful students coming out of those schools, despite being ESOL and poor.

Don't you realize how offensive it is to those students to push for other kids to be involuntarily rezoned to these schools to make them acceptable to the school board and others pushing for rezoning?

If a school is losing 250-300 higher performing students with involved parents each year via the IB to AP escape route, then don't you think that the logical place to start is to eliminate IB and close that loophole, before the school board tries to capture and rezone kids from a different high school to "fix" the IB school and backfill the students whose parents bought homes in the low performing IB school?

If they keep schools like Lewis IB, then FCPS needs to disallow transfers for freshmen and sophomores, since Lewis can, and in some instances already is, offering the 1 to 3 AP classes that freshmen and sophomores are able to take at the IB schools.

IB and AP transfers need to also include a requirement that students take a full courseload of AP classes or are pursuing the IB diploma, for every year they attend a different school, not just a token single AP class as is now required to get the transfer.

Sure. I have no problem with eliminating IB and making all kids attend their base school. Also no language or ROTC transfers. If this were to happen, and some schools were still WAY over capacity, would redistricting be acceptable in your eyes?

Add trailers first.

That was the recommendation from the other $500,000 rezoning study that FCPS paid for right before pandemic.

Especially at the high school level.

High schools are why people purchase their homes.

And teenagers are the group most negatively impacted by changing schools.

FCPS should do everything possible to avoid rezoning high school students or changing high school boundaries.

Maybe you’re not guaranteed a high school but most people expect stability. Or a valid reason to move students. If 300 students are pupil placing out a school it seems like they should have to come back/fcps should figure out why they are leaving rather than rezone a different 300 kids to fill their spots

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The thing is, you werent owed a high school when you purchased your home. You were owed a high school. And if you don’t like the one you’ve got, you can go private.

I’m not saying it’s perfect but people can’t complain about taxes out of one side of their mouths and their zoned high school out of the other. Taxes pay for civilization.

I like our high school quite a lot and it is much maligned on DCUM as well as that Facebook page. Those people have no idea what they’re talking about.

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Anonymous wrote:Nobody is promised to be zoned to certain public schools in perpetuity when they buy a house. I understand it must be frustrating if you had made certain plans, but there is always a chance your home will get redistricted.

This is why we didn’t spend every last penny to buy a house in the best district we could afford.

Good for you. Thanks for repeating the quotes from the gatehouse playbook. No one on this thread ever has said that they were promised a certain school in perpetuity. That doesn’t mean people want their kids to get moved from a good school to a terrible school.

I have no problem with people organizing to get what they want, but sometimes you will be disappointed with the results. Maybe in this case your home will get re-districted, maybe it won’t.

I just cannot with the trashing of schools like Edison, Falls Church and Herndon on this thread. I feel like the teachers and admin are doing the best they can with the student bodies they were dealt. There are many stories of successful students coming out of those schools, despite being ESOL and poor.

Don't you realize how offensive it is to those students to push for other kids to be involuntarily rezoned to these schools to make them acceptable to the school board and others pushing for rezoning?

If a school is losing 250-300 higher performing students with involved parents each year via the IB to AP escape route, then don't you think that the logical place to start is to eliminate IB and close that loophole, before the school board tries to capture and rezone kids from a different high school to "fix" the IB school and backfill the students whose parents bought homes in the low performing IB school?

If they keep schools like Lewis IB, then FCPS needs to disallow transfers for freshmen and sophomores, since Lewis can, and in some instances already is, offering the 1 to 3 AP classes that freshmen and sophomores are able to take at the IB schools.

IB and AP transfers need to also include a requirement that students take a full courseload of AP classes or are pursuing the IB diploma, for every year they attend a different school, not just a token single AP class as is now required to get the transfer.

Sure. I have no problem with eliminating IB and making all kids attend their base school. Also no language or ROTC transfers. If this were to happen, and some schools were still WAY over capacity, would redistricting be acceptable in your eyes?

Add trailers first.

That was the recommendation from the other $500,000 rezoning study that FCPS paid for right before pandemic.

Especially at the high school level.

High schools are why people purchase their homes.

And teenagers are the group most negatively impacted by changing schools.

FCPS should do everything possible to avoid rezoning high school students or changing high school boundaries.

Maybe you’re not guaranteed a high school but most people expect stability. Or a valid reason to move students. If 300 students are pupil placing out a school it seems like they should have to come back/fcps should figure out why they are leaving rather than rezone a different 300 kids to fill their spots

How many students are pupil placing out of Armstrong ES?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The thing is, you werent owed a high school when you purchased your home. You were owed a high school. And if you don’t like the one you’ve got, you can go private.

I’m not saying it’s perfect but people can’t complain about taxes out of one side of their mouths and their zoned high school out of the other. Taxes pay for civilization.

I like our high school quite a lot and it is much maligned on DCUM as well as that Facebook page. Those people have no idea what they’re talking about.

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Anonymous wrote:Nobody is promised to be zoned to certain public schools in perpetuity when they buy a house. I understand it must be frustrating if you had made certain plans, but there is always a chance your home will get redistricted.

This is why we didn’t spend every last penny to buy a house in the best district we could afford.

Good for you. Thanks for repeating the quotes from the gatehouse playbook. No one on this thread ever has said that they were promised a certain school in perpetuity. That doesn’t mean people want their kids to get moved from a good school to a terrible school.

I have no problem with people organizing to get what they want, but sometimes you will be disappointed with the results. Maybe in this case your home will get re-districted, maybe it won’t.

I just cannot with the trashing of schools like Edison, Falls Church and Herndon on this thread. I feel like the teachers and admin are doing the best they can with the student bodies they were dealt. There are many stories of successful students coming out of those schools, despite being ESOL and poor.

Don't you realize how offensive it is to those students to push for other kids to be involuntarily rezoned to these schools to make them acceptable to the school board and others pushing for rezoning?

If a school is losing 250-300 higher performing students with involved parents each year via the IB to AP escape route, then don't you think that the logical place to start is to eliminate IB and close that loophole, before the school board tries to capture and rezone kids from a different high school to "fix" the IB school and backfill the students whose parents bought homes in the low performing IB school?

If they keep schools like Lewis IB, then FCPS needs to disallow transfers for freshmen and sophomores, since Lewis can, and in some instances already is, offering the 1 to 3 AP classes that freshmen and sophomores are able to take at the IB schools.

IB and AP transfers need to also include a requirement that students take a full courseload of AP classes or are pursuing the IB diploma, for every year they attend a different school, not just a token single AP class as is now required to get the transfer.

Sure. I have no problem with eliminating IB and making all kids attend their base school. Also no language or ROTC transfers. If this were to happen, and some schools were still WAY over capacity, would redistricting be acceptable in your eyes?

Add trailers first.

That was the recommendation from the other $500,000 rezoning study that FCPS paid for right before pandemic.

Especially at the high school level.

High schools are why people purchase their homes.

And teenagers are the group most negatively impacted by changing schools.

FCPS should do everything possible to avoid rezoning high school students or changing high school boundaries.

Maybe you’re not guaranteed a high school but most people expect stability. Or a valid reason to move students. If 300 students are pupil placing out a school it seems like they should have to come back/fcps should figure out why they are leaving rather than rezone a different 300 kids to fill their spots

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[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The thing is, you werent owed a high school when you purchased your home. You were owed a high school. And if you don’t like the one you’ve got, you can go private.

I’m not saying it’s perfect but people can’t complain about taxes out of one side of their mouths and their zoned high school out of the other. Taxes pay for civilization.

I like our high school quite a lot and it is much maligned on DCUM as well as that Facebook page. Those people have no idea what they’re talking about.

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Anonymous wrote:Nobody is promised to be zoned to certain public schools in perpetuity when they buy a house. I understand it must be frustrating if you had made certain plans, but there is always a chance your home will get redistricted.

This is why we didn’t spend every last penny to buy a house in the best district we could afford.

Good for you. Thanks for repeating the quotes from the gatehouse playbook. No one on this thread ever has said that they were promised a certain school in perpetuity. That doesn’t mean people want their kids to get moved from a good school to a terrible school.

I have no problem with people organizing to get what they want, but sometimes you will be disappointed with the results. Maybe in this case your home will get re-districted, maybe it won’t.

I just cannot with the trashing of schools like Edison, Falls Church and Herndon on this thread. I feel like the teachers and admin are doing the best they can with the student bodies they were dealt. There are many stories of successful students coming out of those schools, despite being ESOL and poor.

Don't you realize how offensive it is to those students to push for other kids to be involuntarily rezoned to these schools to make them acceptable to the school board and others pushing for rezoning?

If a school is losing 250-300 higher performing students with involved parents each year via the IB to AP escape route, then don't you think that the logical place to start is to eliminate IB and close that loophole, before the school board tries to capture and rezone kids from a different high school to "fix" the IB school and backfill the students whose parents bought homes in the low performing IB school?

If they keep schools like Lewis IB, then FCPS needs to disallow transfers for freshmen and sophomores, since Lewis can, and in some instances already is, offering the 1 to 3 AP classes that freshmen and sophomores are able to take at the IB schools.

IB and AP transfers need to also include a requirement that students take a full courseload of AP classes or are pursuing the IB diploma, for every year they attend a different school, not just a token single AP class as is now required to get the transfer.

Sure. I have no problem with eliminating IB and making all kids attend their base school. Also no language or ROTC transfers. If this were to happen, and some schools were still WAY over capacity, would redistricting be acceptable in your eyes?

Add trailers first.

That was the recommendation from the other $500,000 rezoning study that FCPS paid for right before pandemic.

Especially at the high school level.

High schools are why people purchase their homes.

And teenagers are the group most negatively impacted by changing schools.

FCPS should do everything possible to avoid rezoning high school students or changing high school boundaries.

Maybe you’re not guaranteed a high school but most people expect stability. Or a valid reason to move students. If 300 students are pupil placing out a school it seems like they should have to come back/fcps should figure out why they are leaving rather than rezone a different 300 kids to fill their spots

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[Anonymous]

If FCPS zones part of Forestville ES to Armstrong, would anyone in that zone shift up too? Would a HS student previously in the Forestville boundary but now in the Armstrong boundary be shifted from Langley to Herndon, or would that “prior Forestville” become a split feeder?

[Anonymous]

How many students are leaving Armstrong for IB/AP placements? For a foreign language? Any? Are all those elementary school kids transferring out?

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Anonymous wrote:Come on, folks.

Let’s be realistic. The school board will never approve a move from Langley to Herndon. Herndon is over 60% capacity, and when/if South Lakes High School (SLHS) closes to transfers, Herndon’s enrollment will only increase.

Let’s stop talking about that scenario. It’s a waste of time.

They seem fairly anchored to leaving schools within the 60-105% range alone, but that's just one of their "guiding principles." They also refer to alignment with Policy 8130 and the SB (if not Thru) could identify that as an independent basis to move kids from Langley to Herndon regardless of whether Langley is over 105% or Herndon under 60%.

I'm not advocating for this. I just think that, politically, the optics are horrible if they propose to move kids who live within a mile or two of West Springfield to Lewis or South County, and do nothing to move at least some Langley kids to Herndon when Herndon is much closer. It makes it look as if all the talk about transportation efficiencies was a sham and they got bullied into leaving Langley alone. I've heard all the arguments about how traffic is worse in Herndon so the commuting times wouldn't be reduced as much as you'd think, but people will look at the maps and draw their own conclusions.

They don't really care about optics when it comes to Langley/Herndon.

For the past ten years, I've heard talk of moving Great Falls kids from Langley to Herndon. For some reason, certain posters keep bringing it up.

Doesn’t matter what they think. It's not going to happen.

Full stop.

Why because you and your rich friends founded some sort of association that is lobbying against it? Donating thousands to school board members? You're trying to buy your way out of being rezoned and everybody knows it.

I am in FairFACTs Matters and no where close to Langley nor Herndon. Nor WSHS and Lewis.

There’s also no requirement to donate anything.

+2 it’s literally just a FB group. You can join it whenever you want!

A Fb group that raised over $50,000.

They regularly pay for FOIA requests, which add up.

I wouldn't donate to them, but I hope they are using the funds for what they were intended for.

Thanks for that information. Sad that there has to be a group that needs FOIA. I am grateful to those who donate. If FCPS would be more transparent, FOIA would not be necessary.

It was only through FairFacts’ advocacy that the BRAC member list was disclosed and that they started putting their meeting notes online. Otherwise we’d all be in the dark about this.

Also noting they just posted this. Thus far, this has been the only way for community members to engage with the closed-door BRAC. The pyramid nor special interest members are not doing this unless you happen to have a direct connection.

“For those looking to send community feedback, please email us at [e-mail] with your questions or comments. We have already submitted three communications reflecting community feedback and will continue to share the most commonly asked questions moving forward. We will provide previous communications with community feedback below.“

How disgusting that these people are only sharing information with a small handful of members of the county who live in one specific area and not everyone.

Also it's clearly not a Facebook group when they have their own domain.

Maybe you don’t understand. Fairfacts matters is soliciting feedback to provide to Fairfax County, since they have spots on BRAC now. They are opening the dialogue to everyone across the county, not just one particular pyramid. Oh, and it seems that anyone can join- it’s a county-wide organization.

I’m guessing you understand and that you are just desperately trying to make them the bad guy, but just in case you didn’t understand, I figured i would directly address your concerns.

Are they politically motivated? Just answer the question.

[Anonymous]

SHUT UP ABOUT YOUR STUPID FACEBOOK GROUP. PLEASE GET BACK ON TOPIC.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If FCPS zones part of Forestville ES to Armstrong, would anyone in that zone shift up too? Would a HS student previously in the Forestville boundary but now in the Armstrong boundary be shifted from Langley to Herndon, or would that “prior Forestville” become a split feeder?

I think they would look to move everyone to the new pyramid except for grandfathered kids. But who knows. They’ve been incredibly coy about the actual reason and goals for the comprehensive review

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If FCPS zones part of Forestville ES to Armstrong, would anyone in that zone shift up too? Would a HS student previously in the Forestville boundary but now in the Armstrong boundary be shifted from Langley to Herndon, or would that “prior Forestville” become a split feeder?

I think they would look to move everyone to the new pyramid except for grandfathered kids. But who knows. They’ve been incredibly coy about the actual reason and goals for the comprehensive review

But making all those pupil placed kids come back would prevent that, right? Armstrong would be full, right?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If FCPS zones part of Forestville ES to Armstrong, would anyone in that zone shift up too? Would a HS student previously in the Forestville boundary but now in the Armstrong boundary be shifted from Langley to Herndon, or would that “prior Forestville” become a split feeder?

I think they would look to move everyone to the new pyramid except for grandfathered kids. But who knows. They’ve been incredibly coy about the actual reason and goals for the comprehensive review

But making all those pupil placed kids come back would prevent that, right? Armstrong would be full, right?

If you think the school board should consider pupil placement over boundary changes, I’d recommend reaching out to them tonight or tomorrow to express that opinion.

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Anonymous wrote:Come on, folks.

Let’s be realistic. The school board will never approve a move from Langley to Herndon. Herndon is over 60% capacity, and when/if South Lakes High School (SLHS) closes to transfers, Herndon’s enrollment will only increase.

Let’s stop talking about that scenario. It’s a waste of time.

They seem fairly anchored to leaving schools within the 60-105% range alone, but that's just one of their "guiding principles." They also refer to alignment with Policy 8130 and the SB (if not Thru) could identify that as an independent basis to move kids from Langley to Herndon regardless of whether Langley is over 105% or Herndon under 60%.

I'm not advocating for this. I just think that, politically, the optics are horrible if they propose to move kids who live within a mile or two of West Springfield to Lewis or South County, and do nothing to move at least some Langley kids to Herndon when Herndon is much closer. It makes it look as if all the talk about transportation efficiencies was a sham and they got bullied into leaving Langley alone. I've heard all the arguments about how traffic is worse in Herndon so the commuting times wouldn't be reduced as much as you'd think, but people will look at the maps and draw their own conclusions.

They don't really care about optics when it comes to Langley/Herndon.

For the past ten years, I've heard talk of moving Great Falls kids from Langley to Herndon. For some reason, certain posters keep bringing it up.

Doesn’t matter what they think. It's not going to happen.

Full stop.

Why because you and your rich friends founded some sort of association that is lobbying against it? Donating thousands to school board members? You're trying to buy your way out of being rezoned and everybody knows it.

I am in FairFACTs Matters and no where close to Langley nor Herndon. Nor WSHS and Lewis.

There’s also no requirement to donate anything.

+2 it’s literally just a FB group. You can join it whenever you want!

A Fb group that raised over $50,000.

They regularly pay for FOIA requests, which add up.

I wouldn't donate to them, but I hope they are using the funds for what they were intended for.

Thanks for that information. Sad that there has to be a group that needs FOIA. I am grateful to those who donate. If FCPS would be more transparent, FOIA would not be necessary.

It was only through FairFacts’ advocacy that the BRAC member list was disclosed and that they started putting their meeting notes online. Otherwise we’d all be in the dark about this.

Also noting they just posted this. Thus far, this has been the only way for community members to engage with the closed-door BRAC. The pyramid nor special interest members are not doing this unless you happen to have a direct connection.

“For those looking to send community feedback, please email us at [e-mail] with your questions or comments. We have already submitted three communications reflecting community feedback and will continue to share the most commonly asked questions moving forward. We will provide previous communications with community feedback below.“

How disgusting that these people are only sharing information with a small handful of members of the county who live in one specific area and not everyone.

Also it's clearly not a Facebook group when they have their own domain.

Maybe you don’t understand. Fairfacts matters is soliciting feedback to provide to Fairfax County, since they have spots on BRAC now. They are opening the dialogue to everyone across the county, not just one particular pyramid. Oh, and it seems that anyone can join- it’s a county-wide organization.

I’m guessing you understand and that you are just desperately trying to make them the bad guy, but just in case you didn’t understand, I figured i would directly address your concerns.

Are they politically motivated? Just answer the question.

If you're asking if the group is a bunch of Republicans calling attention to school boundaries in an effort to swing elections, the answer is a definitive "no."

There are certainly a handful of republicans who reminded the group in its first weeks that they voted for the fairfax dems who have had re-districting for equity on their agenda for years now. A few independents who tell the group to accept equity redistricting as the price to pay for all the dem stuff they want their school board to do.

Mostly it's democrats who just want to stay democrats and to work with the board for the outcome they want. The LAST thing they want is to vote for republicans or be called republicans.

[Anonymous]

Even the known Republican shit disturbers and 80 year old Dranesville residents? I think you have no idea the degree to which your little group is being manipulated.

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Anonymous wrote:Come on, folks.

Let’s be realistic. The school board will never approve a move from Langley to Herndon. Herndon is over 60% capacity, and when/if South Lakes High School (SLHS) closes to transfers, Herndon’s enrollment will only increase.

Let’s stop talking about that scenario. It’s a waste of time.

They seem fairly anchored to leaving schools within the 60-105% range alone, but that's just one of their "guiding principles." They also refer to alignment with Policy 8130 and the SB (if not Thru) could identify that as an independent basis to move kids from Langley to Herndon regardless of whether Langley is over 105% or Herndon under 60%.

I'm not advocating for this. I just think that, politically, the optics are horrible if they propose to move kids who live within a mile or two of West Springfield to Lewis or South County, and do nothing to move at least some Langley kids to Herndon when Herndon is much closer. It makes it look as if all the talk about transportation efficiencies was a sham and they got bullied into leaving Langley alone. I've heard all the arguments about how traffic is worse in Herndon so the commuting times wouldn't be reduced as much as you'd think, but people will look at the maps and draw their own conclusions.

They don't really care about optics when it comes to Langley/Herndon.

For the past ten years, I've heard talk of moving Great Falls kids from Langley to Herndon. For some reason, certain posters keep bringing it up.

Doesn’t matter what they think. It's not going to happen.

Full stop.

Why because you and your rich friends founded some sort of association that is lobbying against it? Donating thousands to school board members? You're trying to buy your way out of being rezoned and everybody knows it.

I am in FairFACTs Matters and no where close to Langley nor Herndon. Nor WSHS and Lewis.

There’s also no requirement to donate anything.

+2 it’s literally just a FB group. You can join it whenever you want!

A Fb group that raised over $50,000.

They regularly pay for FOIA requests, which add up.

I wouldn't donate to them, but I hope they are using the funds for what they were intended for.

Thanks for that information. Sad that there has to be a group that needs FOIA. I am grateful to those who donate. If FCPS would be more transparent, FOIA would not be necessary.

It was only through FairFacts’ advocacy that the BRAC member list was disclosed and that they started putting their meeting notes online. Otherwise we’d all be in the dark about this.

Also noting they just posted this. Thus far, this has been the only way for community members to engage with the closed-door BRAC. The pyramid nor special interest members are not doing this unless you happen to have a direct connection.

“For those looking to send community feedback, please email us at [e-mail] with your questions or comments. We have already submitted three communications reflecting community feedback and will continue to share the most commonly asked questions moving forward. We will provide previous communications with community feedback below.“

How disgusting that these people are only sharing information with a small handful of members of the county who live in one specific area and not everyone.

Also it's clearly not a Facebook group when they have their own domain.

Maybe you don’t understand. Fairfacts matters is soliciting feedback to provide to Fairfax County, since they have spots on BRAC now. They are opening the dialogue to everyone across the county, not just one particular pyramid. Oh, and it seems that anyone can join- it’s a county-wide organization.

I’m guessing you understand and that you are just desperately trying to make them the bad guy, but just in case you didn’t understand, I figured i would directly address your concerns.

Are they politically motivated? Just answer the question.

If you're asking if the group is a bunch of Republicans calling attention to school boundaries in an effort to swing elections, the answer is a definitive "no."

There are certainly a handful of republicans who reminded the group in its first weeks that they voted for the fairfax dems who have had re-districting for equity on their agenda for years now. A few independents who tell the group to accept equity redistricting as the price to pay for all the dem stuff they want their school board to do.

Mostly it's democrats who just want to stay democrats and to work with the board for the outcome they want. The LAST thing they want is to vote for republicans or be called republicans.

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Anonymous wrote:Come on, folks.

Let’s be realistic. The school board will never approve a move from Langley to Herndon. Herndon is over 60% capacity, and when/if South Lakes High School (SLHS) closes to transfers, Herndon’s enrollment will only increase.

Let’s stop talking about that scenario. It’s a waste of time.

They seem fairly anchored to leaving schools within the 60-105% range alone, but that's just one of their "guiding principles." They also refer to alignment with Policy 8130 and the SB (if not Thru) could identify that as an independent basis to move kids from Langley to Herndon regardless of whether Langley is over 105% or Herndon under 60%.

I'm not advocating for this. I just think that, politically, the optics are horrible if they propose to move kids who live within a mile or two of West Springfield to Lewis or South County, and do nothing to move at least some Langley kids to Herndon when Herndon is much closer. It makes it look as if all the talk about transportation efficiencies was a sham and they got bullied into leaving Langley alone. I've heard all the arguments about how traffic is worse in Herndon so the commuting times wouldn't be reduced as much as you'd think, but people will look at the maps and draw their own conclusions.

They don't really care about optics when it comes to Langley/Herndon.

For the past ten years, I've heard talk of moving Great Falls kids from Langley to Herndon. For some reason, certain posters keep bringing it up.

Doesn’t matter what they think. It's not going to happen.

Full stop.

Why because you and your rich friends founded some sort of association that is lobbying against it? Donating thousands to school board members? You're trying to buy your way out of being rezoned and everybody knows it.

I am in FairFACTs Matters and no where close to Langley nor Herndon. Nor WSHS and Lewis.

There’s also no requirement to donate anything.

+2 it’s literally just a FB group. You can join it whenever you want!

A Fb group that raised over $50,000.

They regularly pay for FOIA requests, which add up.

I wouldn't donate to them, but I hope they are using the funds for what they were intended for.

Thanks for that information. Sad that there has to be a group that needs FOIA. I am grateful to those who donate. If FCPS would be more transparent, FOIA would not be necessary.

It was only through FairFacts’ advocacy that the BRAC member list was disclosed and that they started putting their meeting notes online. Otherwise we’d all be in the dark about this.

Also noting they just posted this. Thus far, this has been the only way for community members to engage with the closed-door BRAC. The pyramid nor special interest members are not doing this unless you happen to have a direct connection.

“For those looking to send community feedback, please email us at [e-mail] with your questions or comments. We have already submitted three communications reflecting community feedback and will continue to share the most commonly asked questions moving forward. We will provide previous communications with community feedback below.“

How disgusting that these people are only sharing information with a small handful of members of the county who live in one specific area and not everyone.

Also it's clearly not a Facebook group when they have their own domain.

Maybe you don’t understand. Fairfacts matters is soliciting feedback to provide to Fairfax County, since they have spots on BRAC now. They are opening the dialogue to everyone across the county, not just one particular pyramid. Oh, and it seems that anyone can join- it’s a county-wide organization.

I’m guessing you understand and that you are just desperately trying to make them the bad guy, but just in case you didn’t understand, I figured i would directly address your concerns.

Are they politically motivated? Just answer the question.

They don’t seem to be.