Fire in upper NW?

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Anonymous wrote:Fox5DC on internet dropped hints about the Assistant.I wonder if he was a mastermind of some sort.

Please clarify your post or provide the link

http://www.myfoxdc.com/story/29135187/daron-wint-court

The assistant told two very different versions of how he picked up and then dropped off the money. He only changed his story when confronted by police with text messages that contradicted his first version.

What was the assistant's motive for not telling the truth to the police the first time??

No one will believe me but... The husband once told me he was spending a year in the carribean to avoid certain tax issues. My guess is either a) the assistant was accustomed to some cash dealings and spoke before he knew of the murder, b) the assistant assumed hed be fired if he told the truth

+100 That first part was common knowledge.

Who took care of the son during this time?

The son was with them.

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Anonymous wrote:What happens now with the two daughters? Where will they live, who will take care of them, how will their school be paid? I believe there are relatives in Florida, perhaps they'd move down there? Just so heartbreaking for them. I pray they'll be able to move onward and get the help they need, emotionally, spiritually, monetarily. I couldn't imagine being in their shoes. Those poor girls.

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Their lives are destroyed. They will never ever recover from this. Even if they are shielded somehow from the worst details of what happened to their family they will find out one day. I wish with all my heart those scumbags had been aborted, hit by a car, whatever.

I know someone who had something similar happen as a teen and she has a good life now as an adult. Very very hard along the way, but they can find happiness. I'm not trying to diminish how awful this is for them-- it's the worst possible thing -- but they are not hopeless.

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Anonymous wrote:Is there any specific reason that the killer has only been charged in the dad's murder so far? Is it possible that accomplices were involved with the other killings and so he won't be charged until they are also arrested?
What evidence do they have linking him to the killing of SS, but not to the killing of the others?
Or is this just standard operating procedure ?

He is being charged with 4 counts of murder one.

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Anonymous wrote:Couldn't they charge the hostage holding as kidnapping, which is a federal crime. With murder associated with the kidnapping, that would make the lowlife eligible for the death penalty.

I believe the federal kidnapping statute requires a victim to be transported across state lines. There is also a Hostage Taking statute, but it has other potentially problematic requirements that might not be met here.

In any event, the fact that a state/district doesn't have the death penalty in its criminal statute is not a reason to strain to find a federal charge. If they people of the District wanted to the death penalty for heinous murder, they could have the DC Council legislate that.

There is a Federal Death penalty for Murder that combines either Arson, Murder of a Child, or Kidnapping. The interstate nexus is clear.

The feds could in theory step in, take him from DC's jurisdiction, and fry him if they chose, as they did with Timothy McVeigh and will with the Marathon Bomber.

Will they? Normally I would say no. But the crime was so heinous, I would bet he gets indicted by both DC and the feds, as VA and MD did with the DC Snipers, so if an error is made that gets him clear, the second separate trial will be in train. Having a Federal death penalty case lined up behind DC's is certainly an incentive to cooperate.

I forget all the details of some of these cases now, but with the DC Snipers, they committed separate murders in separate states. There's no double jeopardy issue trying them multiple times because their separate events. I'm forgetting my double jeopardy rules now, but in this case wouldn't it apply (at least to the extent you're trying murder under a federal statute)?



Also, for TM and the BBs, weren't there terrorism statutes involved (or other types of statutes that wouldn't apply here)?

I hadn't thought about the fact that the ransom came from MD, so that would provide an interstate nexus.

I agree that given how heinous it was there will be greater chance of a federal case of they can find a basis.

Interstate is met simply by forcing texts to be made to VA and MD. Added to by taking the ill gotten gains to MD. I don't see that as a hard prove with a federal jury. Plus its easy to guess that they can prove the crime was planned in MD and therefore a conspiracy...even if he acted alone.

Bet money DC will charge him with 2 murders and the feds with two. The nation is appalled, and wants this guy hung by the neck until dead. They killed a 10 year old little boy. Google his school and the alumni list...the community around the Cathedral, and not saying its fair, but holds a grudge. Mentioned before, but a mere pedophile at Beauvoir replaced Bin Laden as number one on the FBI most wanted list, and they hunted him for years and then got him in Guatemala. Everyone in the country is mortified, but a lot of people around the Cathedral community can and will act in their positions on the hill, courts, and agencies....as well as in the media. People want them all caught. If they don't get the others, I am pretty sure Wint will be executed.

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I hope they are keeping a close eye on the brother. And I will sleep a little easier when they catch the accomplices.

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Anonymous wrote:Is there any specific reason that the killer has only been charged in the dad's murder so far? Is it possible that accomplices were involved with the other killings and so he won't be charged until they are also arrested?
What evidence do they have linking him to the killing of SS, but not to the killing of the others?
Or is this just standard operating procedure ?

He is being charged with 4 counts of murder one.

This article states:

"Wint so far is charged only in the death of the family patriarch, a wealthy socialite and business executive who ran American Iron Works, a large supplier of iron and steel to construction projects. Officials said additional charges are likely in the deaths of the wife, son and housekeeper."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/crime/savopoulos-family-thanks-law-enforcement-after-arrest-in-slayings/2015/05/22/4b5b488a-0077-11e5-8b6c-0dcce21e223d_story.html

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Good question! Everyone here has such good comments and questions!

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Assistant conduct is totally fishy.

Not a chance in hell any normal, not guilty person lies to the police under those circumstances.

And there's no way the misstatements were accidental. They are too different.

It almost seems like a crazy way to try to screw up the case. And why would you do that?

And who was the photo sent to?

And why oh why did this executive surround himself with such morons?

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And with the rest of the criminal posse still at large, I would have arrested everyone with him. Hanging around the notorious felon with all the cash? Turning him in? Yeah right.

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This has a picture of the box truck with the back doors open, can you see what's inside? I'm not able to make it out, but looks like several things.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3093358/CEO-wife-housekeeper-died-blunt-force-trauma-10-year-old-son-burned-death-court-documents-reveal-emerges-suspect-did-not-act-alone.html

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Anonymous wrote:Is there any specific reason that the killer has only been charged in the dad's murder so far? Is it possible that accomplices were involved with the other killings and so he won't be charged until they are also arrested?
What evidence do they have linking him to the killing of SS, but not to the killing of the others?
Or is this just standard operating procedure ?

To preserve the option of a plea bargain if he was just the dumb tag a long. To keep the federal death penalty card off the table. To give him a chance if he was just part of the gang to turn the rest in with a chance he gets to spend his spend his 80's in a nursing home. Remember, all they have is he was in the house. They can get him on 4 murders as is, but there is more here. They are smart to play their cards close to their vest. At this point, the one charge holds him without bail. Thats all they need today. Why show your hole cards before you need too? Sure they know more more than are saying, but they dont know all.

They need too. We all need to. This was the smart move. I am hugely impressed how well LE has done their job.

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I sincerely hope someone looks into whether this was an Obeah killing ritual. Wint looks exactly like a witch.

Really consoled by all of the prayers going up from the Cathedral community and others.

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I don't care whether he was the head brains or just an idiot along for the ride. He needs to go down for life. With his rap sheet? A true piece of turd.

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Anonymous wrote:Couldn't they charge the hostage holding as kidnapping, which is a federal crime. With murder associated with the kidnapping, that would make the lowlife eligible for the death penalty.

I believe the federal kidnapping statute requires a victim to be transported across state lines. There is also a Hostage Taking statute, but it has other potentially problematic requirements that might not be met here.

In any event, the fact that a state/district doesn't have the death penalty in its criminal statute is not a reason to strain to find a federal charge. If they people of the District wanted to the death penalty for heinous murder, they could have the DC Council legislate that.

There is a Federal Death penalty for Murder that combines either Arson, Murder of a Child, or Kidnapping. The interstate nexus is clear.

The feds could in theory step in, take him from DC's jurisdiction, and fry him if they chose, as they did with Timothy McVeigh and will with the Marathon Bomber.

Will they? Normally I would say no. But the crime was so heinous, I would bet he gets indicted by both DC and the feds, as VA and MD did with the DC Snipers, so if an error is made that gets him clear, the second separate trial will be in train. Having a Federal death penalty case lined up behind DC's is certainly an incentive to cooperate.

I forget all the details of some of these cases now, but with the DC Snipers, they committed separate murders in separate states. There's no double jeopardy issue trying them multiple times because their separate events. I'm forgetting my double jeopardy rules now, but in this case wouldn't it apply (at least to the extent you're trying murder under a federal statute)?



Also, for TM and the BBs, weren't there terrorism statutes involved (or other types of statutes that wouldn't apply here)?

I hadn't thought about the fact that the ransom came from MD, so that would provide an interstate nexus.

I agree that given how heinous it was there will be greater chance of a federal case of they can find a basis.

Interstate is met simply by forcing texts to be made to VA and MD. Added to by taking the ill gotten gains to MD. I don't see that as a hard prove with a federal jury. Plus its easy to guess that they can prove the crime was planned in MD and therefore a conspiracy...even if he acted alone.

Bet money DC will charge him with 2 murders and the feds with two. The nation is appalled, and wants this guy hung by the neck until dead. They killed a 10 year old little boy. Google his school and the alumni list...the community around the Cathedral, and not saying its fair, but holds a grudge. Mentioned before, but a mere pedophile at Beauvoir replaced Bin Laden as number one on the FBI most wanted list, and they hunted him for years and then got him in Guatemala. Everyone in the country is mortified, but a lot of people around the Cathedral community can and will act in their positions on the hill, courts, and agencies....as well as in the media. People want them all caught. If they don't get the others, I am pretty sure Wint will be executed.

Money buys power. In this case, I say good on them - let Wint meet their wrath, at full speed, without hesitation. I hope we all see it come to life, frankly.

I hope to see Wint fall. Hard.

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Anonymous wrote:I sincerely hope someone looks into whether this was an Obeah killing ritual. Wint looks exactly like a witch.

Really consoled by all of the prayers going up from the Cathedral community and others.

+1

Please keep the memory of the family alive, by respecting their privacy. They were that kind of people.