FCPS Boundary Review Updates

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Anonymous wrote:Herndon High has been just fine for us. My kids were able to play a variety of sports, join clubs, and the teachers know my kids. As many have said, it is a school within a school. If your child is academically inclined, they will do well. So many here are afraid of “gang activity”. Trust me, all that stuff seems to happen in a separate bubble. The absenteeism, low scores, disciplinary issues, etc… are not happening with the higher SES cohorts. If your kid falls in this group, they will be fine. Heck, they might even have a better shot at making the boys lacrosse team as freshmen or being the president of the robotics club.
However, if you and your kids will be disgruntled in the case you get rezoned to Herndon, please go private. We do not need that negative energy at our school.

This type of glib dismissive statement ignores the fact that you’re driving a lot of engaged families out of the system.

This is why people talk about a death spiral for FCPS. It also increases the chances that vouchers will get approved in the state.

There wasn’t anything glib or dismissive about the post. It was highlighting positive aspects of Herndon and pointing out that people with positive but not negative attitudes are always welcome.

Constant favoritism on the part of the School Board towards the very wealthiest in the county, while other people’s kids are treated like widgets, is more likely to drive people out of FCPS than expecting kids who live a couple of miles from Herndon to go there rather than a school much further away.

We live on the opposite side of the county.

My kids did community theater when they were younger. We met a lot of Herndon kids through these community and professional theater performances.
Herndon HS has a very strong arts program. They are well known throughout the area for being strong in the performing arts, particularly theater.

Bssed on our experience over the years with the Herndon kids who do theater, we always had the impression that Herndon was a very good high school.

It wasn't until the rezoning stuff popped up hear, that I heard all the faults of Herndon HS.

Really, the kids your kids hang out with in middle and high school specifically mean so much to the type of students they are going to become.

Put your kids in the Herndon theater program with the theater kids. They will probably be fine.

This post oozes paternalism.

I don't think paternalism is being correctly used here.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Herndon High has been just fine for us. My kids were able to play a variety of sports, join clubs, and the teachers know my kids. As many have said, it is a school within a school. If your child is academically inclined, they will do well. So many here are afraid of “gang activity”. Trust me, all that stuff seems to happen in a separate bubble. The absenteeism, low scores, disciplinary issues, etc… are not happening with the higher SES cohorts. If your kid falls in this group, they will be fine. Heck, they might even have a better shot at making the boys lacrosse team as freshmen or being the president of the robotics club.
However, if you and your kids will be disgruntled in the case you get rezoned to Herndon, please go private. We do not need that negative energy at our school.

This type of glib dismissive statement ignores the fact that you’re driving a lot of engaged families out of the system.

This is why people talk about a death spiral for FCPS. It also increases the chances that vouchers will get approved in the state.

There wasn’t anything glib or dismissive about the post. It was highlighting positive aspects of Herndon and pointing out that people with positive but not negative attitudes are always welcome.

Constant favoritism on the part of the School Board towards the very wealthiest in the county, while other people’s kids are treated like widgets, is more likely to drive people out of FCPS than expecting kids who live a couple of miles from Herndon to go there rather than a school much further away.

We live on the opposite side of the county.

My kids did community theater when they were younger. We met a lot of Herndon kids through these community and professional theater performances.
Herndon HS has a very strong arts program. They are well known throughout the area for being strong in the performing arts, particularly theater.

Bssed on our experience over the years with the Herndon kids who do theater, we always had the impression that Herndon was a very good high school.

It wasn't until the rezoning stuff popped up hear, that I heard all the faults of Herndon HS.

Really, the kids your kids hang out with in middle and high school specifically mean so much to the type of students they are going to become.

Put your kids in the Herndon theater program with the theater kids. They will probably be fine.

This post oozes paternalism.

I don't think paternalism is being correctly used here.

DP. I think paternalism is the perfect word. In fact, I looked it up just to be sure:
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/paternalism

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Herndon High has been just fine for us. My kids were able to play a variety of sports, join clubs, and the teachers know my kids. As many have said, it is a school within a school. If your child is academically inclined, they will do well. So many here are afraid of “gang activity”. Trust me, all that stuff seems to happen in a separate bubble. The absenteeism, low scores, disciplinary issues, etc… are not happening with the higher SES cohorts. If your kid falls in this group, they will be fine. Heck, they might even have a better shot at making the boys lacrosse team as freshmen or being the president of the robotics club.
However, if you and your kids will be disgruntled in the case you get rezoned to Herndon, please go private. We do not need that negative energy at our school.

This type of glib dismissive statement ignores the fact that you’re driving a lot of engaged families out of the system.

This is why people talk about a death spiral for FCPS. It also increases the chances that vouchers will get approved in the state.

On the other hand, how many families have left the system for private or other areas because they were zoned for schools commonly avoided by middle/upper middle-class parents?

You mean people who bought into those specific pyramids knowing what schools they were zoned to? The answer to that question is: zero.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Herndon High has been just fine for us. My kids were able to play a variety of sports, join clubs, and the teachers know my kids. As many have said, it is a school within a school. If your child is academically inclined, they will do well. So many here are afraid of “gang activity”. Trust me, all that stuff seems to happen in a separate bubble. The absenteeism, low scores, disciplinary issues, etc… are not happening with the higher SES cohorts. If your kid falls in this group, they will be fine. Heck, they might even have a better shot at making the boys lacrosse team as freshmen or being the president of the robotics club.
However, if you and your kids will be disgruntled in the case you get rezoned to Herndon, please go private. We do not need that negative energy at our school.

This type of glib dismissive statement ignores the fact that you’re driving a lot of engaged families out of the system.

This is why people talk about a death spiral for FCPS. It also increases the chances that vouchers will get approved in the state.

There wasn’t anything glib or dismissive about the post. It was highlighting positive aspects of Herndon and pointing out that people with positive but not negative attitudes are always welcome.

Constant favoritism on the part of the School Board towards the very wealthiest in the county, while other people’s kids are treated like widgets, is more likely to drive people out of FCPS than expecting kids who live a couple of miles from Herndon to go there rather than a school much further away.

We live on the opposite side of the county.

My kids did community theater when they were younger. We met a lot of Herndon kids through these community and professional theater performances.
Herndon HS has a very strong arts program. They are well known throughout the area for being strong in the performing arts, particularly theater.

Bssed on our experience over the years with the Herndon kids who do theater, we always had the impression that Herndon was a very good high school.

It wasn't until the rezoning stuff popped up hear, that I heard all the faults of Herndon HS.

Really, the kids your kids hang out with in middle and high school specifically mean so much to the type of students they are going to become.

Put your kids in the Herndon theater program with the theater kids. They will probably be fine.

This post oozes paternalism.

Sounds like a SB member to me.

Question: why are so many PP out of Herndon, but putting another neighborhood in is okay? There is lots of new construction in Herndon, as well.

Huh?

Where did you get that impression?

Herndon HS is very well known in the DC area for having a very strong theatre program. The arts is solid there, and the Herndon theater kids are known for being well trained and professional.

Do you know anything about the DC theater scene? If you did, you would know that Herndon HS is very well respected in theater.

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[Anonymous]

Parents buy in into a school pyramid.. they aspire for their kids to go to certain schools. Usually it’s the most expensive lifetime purchase for folks and we put in every last penny into the down payment so that our DCs could go to the top rated school we could afford…

Don’t tell me a certain HS is perfectly fine… If you think so, move your own kids there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Herndon High has been just fine for us. My kids were able to play a variety of sports, join clubs, and the teachers know my kids. As many have said, it is a school within a school. If your child is academically inclined, they will do well. So many here are afraid of “gang activity”. Trust me, all that stuff seems to happen in a separate bubble. The absenteeism, low scores, disciplinary issues, etc… are not happening with the higher SES cohorts. If your kid falls in this group, they will be fine. Heck, they might even have a better shot at making the boys lacrosse team as freshmen or being the president of the robotics club.
However, if you and your kids will be disgruntled in the case you get rezoned to Herndon, please go private. We do not need that negative energy at our school.

This type of glib dismissive statement ignores the fact that you’re driving a lot of engaged families out of the system.

This is why people talk about a death spiral for FCPS. It also increases the chances that vouchers will get approved in the state.

On the other hand, how many families have left the system for private or other areas because they were zoned for schools commonly avoided by middle/upper middle-class parents?

You mean people who bought into those specific pyramids knowing what schools they were zoned to? The answer to that question is: zero.

Some of those schools changed significantly from the time a family moved in with a two-year-old and time for the kid to enroll in high school.

Don't be so smug.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Herndon High has been just fine for us. My kids were able to play a variety of sports, join clubs, and the teachers know my kids. As many have said, it is a school within a school. If your child is academically inclined, they will do well. So many here are afraid of “gang activity”. Trust me, all that stuff seems to happen in a separate bubble. The absenteeism, low scores, disciplinary issues, etc… are not happening with the higher SES cohorts. If your kid falls in this group, they will be fine. Heck, they might even have a better shot at making the boys lacrosse team as freshmen or being the president of the robotics club.
However, if you and your kids will be disgruntled in the case you get rezoned to Herndon, please go private. We do not need that negative energy at our school.

This type of glib dismissive statement ignores the fact that you’re driving a lot of engaged families out of the system.

This is why people talk about a death spiral for FCPS. It also increases the chances that vouchers will get approved in the state.

On the other hand, how many families have left the system for private or other areas because they were zoned for schools commonly avoided by middle/upper middle-class parents?

You mean people who bought into those specific pyramids knowing what schools they were zoned to? The answer to that question is: zero.

Some of those schools changed significantly from the time a family moved in with a two-year-old and time for the kid to enroll in high school.

Don't be so smug.

Just calling BS on posters trying to flip the narrative that somehow uncertainty is what the county needs right now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Parents buy in into a school pyramid.. they aspire for their kids to go to certain schools. Usually it’s the most expensive lifetime purchase for folks and we put in every last penny into the down payment so that our DCs could go to the top rated school we could afford…

Don’t tell me a certain HS is perfectly fine… If you think so, move your own kids there.

+1

[Anonymous]

Nobody is promised to be zoned to certain public schools in perpetuity when they buy a house. I understand it must be frustrating if you had made certain plans, but there is always a chance your home will get redistricted.

This is why we didn’t spend every last penny to buy a house in the best district we could afford.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Herndon High has been just fine for us. My kids were able to play a variety of sports, join clubs, and the teachers know my kids. As many have said, it is a school within a school. If your child is academically inclined, they will do well. So many here are afraid of “gang activity”. Trust me, all that stuff seems to happen in a separate bubble. The absenteeism, low scores, disciplinary issues, etc… are not happening with the higher SES cohorts. If your kid falls in this group, they will be fine. Heck, they might even have a better shot at making the boys lacrosse team as freshmen or being the president of the robotics club.
However, if you and your kids will be disgruntled in the case you get rezoned to Herndon, please go private. We do not need that negative energy at our school.

This type of glib dismissive statement ignores the fact that you’re driving a lot of engaged families out of the system.

This is why people talk about a death spiral for FCPS. It also increases the chances that vouchers will get approved in the state.

There wasn’t anything glib or dismissive about the post. It was highlighting positive aspects of Herndon and pointing out that people with positive but not negative attitudes are always welcome.

Constant favoritism on the part of the School Board towards the very wealthiest in the county, while other people’s kids are treated like widgets, is more likely to drive people out of FCPS than expecting kids who live a couple of miles from Herndon to go there rather than a school much further away.

We live on the opposite side of the county.

My kids did community theater when they were younger. We met a lot of Herndon kids through these community and professional theater performances.
Herndon HS has a very strong arts program. They are well known throughout the area for being strong in the performing arts, particularly theater.

Bssed on our experience over the years with the Herndon kids who do theater, we always had the impression that Herndon was a very good high school.

It wasn't until the rezoning stuff popped up hear, that I heard all the faults of Herndon HS.

Really, the kids your kids hang out with in middle and high school specifically mean so much to the type of students they are going to become.

Put your kids in the Herndon theater program with the theater kids. They will probably be fine.

This post oozes paternalism.

I don't think paternalism is being correctly used here.

DP. I think paternalism is the perfect word. In fact, I looked it up just to be sure:
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/paternalism

You aren't using the word correctly.

paternalism
/pə-tûr′nə-lĭz″əm/

noun
A policy or practice of treating or governing people in a fatherly manner, especially by providing for their needs without giving them rights or responsibilities.

The theory or practice of paternal government. See Paternal government, under paternal.

The treatment of people in a fatherly manner, especially by caring for them but sometimes being stern with them.

The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, 5th Edition • More at Wordnik

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Nobody is promised to be zoned to certain public schools in perpetuity when they buy a house. I understand it must be frustrating if you had made certain plans, but there is always a chance your home will get redistricted.

This is why we didn’t spend every last penny to buy a house in the best district we could afford.

Dumb argument. Just because it’s not a guarantee doesn’t mean it’s going to be a good thing for the county.

Hey, when you bought your house, you always knew it was possible to have it taken by eminent domain, so don’t argue when it happens. Pretty weak sauce.

But, we also didn’t spend every last penny, which is why a $2,000 rental in our chosen pyramid wouldn’t be an issue for us! Look at us, you trying to screw over neighbors like me, and my family easily avoiding your agenda! We’re like a Tom & Jerry cartoon!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Nobody is promised to be zoned to certain public schools in perpetuity when they buy a house. I understand it must be frustrating if you had made certain plans, but there is always a chance your home will get redistricted.

This is why we didn’t spend every last penny to buy a house in the best district we could afford.

Fairfax county promotes its schools.

Of course, people should expect to remain in the same schools they purchased their home in.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Herndon High has been just fine for us. My kids were able to play a variety of sports, join clubs, and the teachers know my kids. As many have said, it is a school within a school. If your child is academically inclined, they will do well. So many here are afraid of “gang activity”. Trust me, all that stuff seems to happen in a separate bubble. The absenteeism, low scores, disciplinary issues, etc… are not happening with the higher SES cohorts. If your kid falls in this group, they will be fine. Heck, they might even have a better shot at making the boys lacrosse team as freshmen or being the president of the robotics club.
However, if you and your kids will be disgruntled in the case you get rezoned to Herndon, please go private. We do not need that negative energy at our school.

This type of glib dismissive statement ignores the fact that you’re driving a lot of engaged families out of the system.

This is why people talk about a death spiral for FCPS. It also increases the chances that vouchers will get approved in the state.

There wasn’t anything glib or dismissive about the post. It was highlighting positive aspects of Herndon and pointing out that people with positive but not negative attitudes are always welcome.

Constant favoritism on the part of the School Board towards the very wealthiest in the county, while other people’s kids are treated like widgets, is more likely to drive people out of FCPS than expecting kids who live a couple of miles from Herndon to go there rather than a school much further away.

We live on the opposite side of the county.

My kids did community theater when they were younger. We met a lot of Herndon kids through these community and professional theater performances.
Herndon HS has a very strong arts program. They are well known throughout the area for being strong in the performing arts, particularly theater.

Bssed on our experience over the years with the Herndon kids who do theater, we always had the impression that Herndon was a very good high school.

It wasn't until the rezoning stuff popped up hear, that I heard all the faults of Herndon HS.

Really, the kids your kids hang out with in middle and high school specifically mean so much to the type of students they are going to become.

Put your kids in the Herndon theater program with the theater kids. They will probably be fine.

This post oozes paternalism.

I don't think paternalism is being correctly used here.

DP. I think paternalism is the perfect word. In fact, I looked it up just to be sure:
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/paternalism

You aren't using the word correctly.

paternalism
/pə-tûr′nə-lĭz″əm/

noun
A policy or practice of treating or governing people in a fatherly manner, especially by providing for their needs without giving them rights or responsibilities.

The theory or practice of paternal government. See Paternal government, under paternal.

The treatment of people in a fatherly manner, especially by caring for them but sometimes being stern with them.

The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, 5th Edition • More at Wordnik

Oh, sorry, meant mansplaining.

😉

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Nobody is promised to be zoned to certain public schools in perpetuity when they buy a house. I understand it must be frustrating if you had made certain plans, but there is always a chance your home will get redistricted.

This is why we didn’t spend every last penny to buy a house in the best district we could afford.

Good for you. Thanks for repeating the quotes from the gatehouse playbook. No one on this thread ever has said that they were promised a certain school in perpetuity. That doesn’t mean people want their kids to get moved from a good school to a terrible school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Herndon High has been just fine for us. My kids were able to play a variety of sports, join clubs, and the teachers know my kids. As many have said, it is a school within a school. If your child is academically inclined, they will do well. So many here are afraid of “gang activity”. Trust me, all that stuff seems to happen in a separate bubble. The absenteeism, low scores, disciplinary issues, etc… are not happening with the higher SES cohorts. If your kid falls in this group, they will be fine. Heck, they might even have a better shot at making the boys lacrosse team as freshmen or being the president of the robotics club.
However, if you and your kids will be disgruntled in the case you get rezoned to Herndon, please go private. We do not need that negative energy at our school.

This type of glib dismissive statement ignores the fact that you’re driving a lot of engaged families out of the system.

This is why people talk about a death spiral for FCPS. It also increases the chances that vouchers will get approved in the state.

There wasn’t anything glib or dismissive about the post. It was highlighting positive aspects of Herndon and pointing out that people with positive but not negative attitudes are always welcome.

Constant favoritism on the part of the School Board towards the very wealthiest in the county, while other people’s kids are treated like widgets, is more likely to drive people out of FCPS than expecting kids who live a couple of miles from Herndon to go there rather than a school much further away.

We live on the opposite side of the county.

My kids did community theater when they were younger. We met a lot of Herndon kids through these community and professional theater performances.
Herndon HS has a very strong arts program. They are well known throughout the area for being strong in the performing arts, particularly theater.

Bssed on our experience over the years with the Herndon kids who do theater, we always had the impression that Herndon was a very good high school.

It wasn't until the rezoning stuff popped up hear, that I heard all the faults of Herndon HS.

Really, the kids your kids hang out with in middle and high school specifically mean so much to the type of students they are going to become.

Put your kids in the Herndon theater program with the theater kids. They will probably be fine.

This post oozes paternalism.

I don't think paternalism is being correctly used here.

DP. I think paternalism is the perfect word. In fact, I looked it up just to be sure:
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/paternalism

You aren't using the word correctly.

paternalism
/pə-tûr′nə-lĭz″əm/

noun
A policy or practice of treating or governing people in a fatherly manner, especially by providing for their needs without giving them rights or responsibilities.

The theory or practice of paternal government. See Paternal government, under paternal.

The treatment of people in a fatherly manner, especially by caring for them but sometimes being stern with them.

The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, 5th Edition • More at Wordnik

Well, I think the Merriam-Webster version is a better fit:
paternalism
noun
pa·​ter·​nal·​ism pə-ˈtər-nə-ˌli-zəm
1
: a system under which an authority undertakes to supply needs or regulate conduct of those under its control in matters affecting them as individuals as well as in their relations to authority and to each other
the empire's paternalism in regard to its colonies
2
: a policy or practice based on or characteristic of paternalism