Travis and Taylor

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There might be one or two PR relationships out there but most of them are legit IMO


Again, there are shades of gray here. A full on PR-arranged marriage is probably pretty rare (but does happen). And some celebs do just meet and fall in love. But a not-insignificant number of these relationships start out as "well if these two hit it off it would do wonders for her film premiere in May" or "this is a good match because she softens his image after the bad press last year."

Also, if you started dating someone and as a result of being associated with them, suddenly you were making a bunch more money (as Kelce has from his jersey sales, which he gets a cut of and have gone through the roof since he started dating Travis), it might make you look at that person in a rosier light, right? When you can't separate those things, which you can't with these two, it's impossible to say the relationship has no PR element.

Which, by the way, is why Joe Alwyn's preference to keep his relationship with Taylor as private as possible, and in particular keeping it private as it relates to their careers, makes a lot of sense to me in terms of having a healthy relationship with someone as famous as Travis. Yes he has songwriting credits on her albums because obviously they enjoyed collaborating together creatively, but he used a pseudonym and never made any public appearances related to that. He preferred to attend his own premiers solo so that they could be about the work and his artistry and not about Taylor. Some Swifties view that as selfish or unfair to her and I don't get it. He wanted to keep their relationship about the two of them, and not about their careers and any "synergy" they might have. That's romantic, and smart, IMO.

I think Taylor and Travis are walking a dangerous line because he's launching a Hollywood career in the midst of all this, and it's opening doors for him and benefiting him financially a lot. That kind of power imbalance is volatile, in my opinion. It seems great now, when they are both on top of the world. In 2 years he's going to be a retired NFL player trying to launch an acting career/a clothing line/whatever. As his world gets closer to hers and their careers intersect more, how does that impact the NORMAL challenges any couple faces over the course of a relationship, especially in your 30s and 40s as you deal with serious things like deciding once and for all if you will have kids, aging parents, the realities of aging yourself.

I just cannot imagine a relationship with this much money involved, under this much scrutiny, ever lasting. Name ONE celeb couple like this that has endured. There isn't one.

Alwyn had it right. If you want a real relationship and you are as famous and exposed as Swift is, you have to draw a line around it and keep the press and the publicists and fans OUT. Taylor either doesn't get this or she doesn't really care.


Remember when Gisele and Tom Brady got together. They were separately huge and as much an equal power couple as we typically see. Jennifer Aniston and Brad Pitt were separately huge and a power couple in the same industry. Kim and Kanye were huge separately and together. Victoria Beckham wasn't nearly as huge as David was separately, but together they're still a power couple. Jennifer Lopez and Ben Affleck are famous alone and together, but we all saw how their relationship couldn't weather the constant scrutiny, which they played into constantly! The only ones still together are the Beckhams and Bennifer 2.0, and those have been publicly rocky over the years.

These are all celebrities and/or athletes. I'm not counting couples where someone is successful in an industry with less media coverage like business or politics.

I see Taylor and Travis coming into this most similarly to Gisele and Tom. The difference is that Gisele made a decision to step back for years to be a hands on mother, which put the relationship and career issues on the back burner for years. I really doubt Taylor would do that. So when Tom finally retired and Gisele was ready to return to the career she loved ... they accepted that they no longer worked as a couple. Taylor and Travis are going to hit that point a lot sooner.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Was just watching the Chiefs parade. What a disgrace. Travis is drunk.


Living a lie is hard? At the very least he's been unable to hookup with groupies for the last 8 months.

It is quite a toll. Is it really worth it?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There might be one or two PR relationships out there but most of them are legit IMO


Again, there are shades of gray here. A full on PR-arranged marriage is probably pretty rare (but does happen). And some celebs do just meet and fall in love. But a not-insignificant number of these relationships start out as "well if these two hit it off it would do wonders for her film premiere in May" or "this is a good match because she softens his image after the bad press last year."

Also, if you started dating someone and as a result of being associated with them, suddenly you were making a bunch more money (as Kelce has from his jersey sales, which he gets a cut of and have gone through the roof since he started dating Travis), it might make you look at that person in a rosier light, right? When you can't separate those things, which you can't with these two, it's impossible to say the relationship has no PR element.

Which, by the way, is why Joe Alwyn's preference to keep his relationship with Taylor as private as possible, and in particular keeping it private as it relates to their careers, makes a lot of sense to me in terms of having a healthy relationship with someone as famous as Travis. Yes he has songwriting credits on her albums because obviously they enjoyed collaborating together creatively, but he used a pseudonym and never made any public appearances related to that. He preferred to attend his own premiers solo so that they could be about the work and his artistry and not about Taylor. Some Swifties view that as selfish or unfair to her and I don't get it. He wanted to keep their relationship about the two of them, and not about their careers and any "synergy" they might have. That's romantic, and smart, IMO.

I think Taylor and Travis are walking a dangerous line because he's launching a Hollywood career in the midst of all this, and it's opening doors for him and benefiting him financially a lot. That kind of power imbalance is volatile, in my opinion. It seems great now, when they are both on top of the world. In 2 years he's going to be a retired NFL player trying to launch an acting career/a clothing line/whatever. As his world gets closer to hers and their careers intersect more, how does that impact the NORMAL challenges any couple faces over the course of a relationship, especially in your 30s and 40s as you deal with serious things like deciding once and for all if you will have kids, aging parents, the realities of aging yourself.

I just cannot imagine a relationship with this much money involved, under this much scrutiny, ever lasting. Name ONE celeb couple like this that has endured. There isn't one.

Alwyn had it right. If you want a real relationship and you are as famous and exposed as Swift is, you have to draw a line around it and keep the press and the publicists and fans OUT. Taylor either doesn't get this or she doesn't really care.


Remember when Gisele and Tom Brady got together. They were separately huge and as much an equal power couple as we typically see. Jennifer Aniston and Brad Pitt were separately huge and a power couple in the same industry. Kim and Kanye were huge separately and together. Victoria Beckham wasn't nearly as huge as David was separately, but together they're still a power couple. Jennifer Lopez and Ben Affleck are famous alone and together, but we all saw how their relationship couldn't weather the constant scrutiny, which they played into constantly! The only ones still together are the Beckhams and Bennifer 2.0, and those have been publicly rocky over the years.

These are all celebrities and/or athletes. I'm not counting couples where someone is successful in an industry with less media coverage like business or politics.

I see Taylor and Travis coming into this most similarly to Gisele and Tom. The difference is that Gisele made a decision to step back for years to be a hands on mother, which put the relationship and career issues on the back burner for years. I really doubt Taylor would do that. So when Tom finally retired and Gisele was ready to return to the career she loved ... they accepted that they no longer worked as a couple. Taylor and Travis are going to hit that point a lot sooner.


Taylor is way bigger than Travis. Taylor swift is a household name and a global name.

Tom was bigger than Gisele. Gisele was big, to be sure, but Tom was not only a legendary QB but also very good looking. Like you said, she took a step back to let his star eclipse hers. And ultimately she seemed to resent that when he didn’t give her a chance to do the same.

I don’t see either of these two giving up their careers in the short term. They also dont strike me as particularly compatible in general. Travis Kelce is not glamorous, east coast, elitist Tom Brady. He is essentially a lumberjack and Taylor is enjoying not feeling like the alpha for once, or at least being with someone who feels less like a beta with her compared to past boyfriends. I don’t see either of them being into it long term, but could be wrong.
Anonymous
So this behavior is normal at parades:

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:So this behavior is normal at parades:




I just listened to the podcast. Travis just does not care what people think. Poor Tree Paine. He must be blowing off some serious steam after the last 6 months. I give them much grace but he needs to get it together after this week for Taylor's sake.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:So this behavior is normal at parades:


Is the Taylor relationship getting to him. Or maybe Taylor’s bodyguard is no longer shadowing him and he’s being his true self and feels free now.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:So this behavior is normal at parades:



I mean, this behavior actually pretty normal for certain athletes at championship parades. I went to the Nat's World Series parade and those guys were absolutely hammered and it was pretty funny. Not everyone acts exactly like this but every team always has at least a couple big, super drunk dudes who hog the mic and everyone laughs at them and it's generally seen in a positive light within context.

However, Travis is in a different position because of the Taylor situation and the fact that he and his family are pretty massively overexposed at this point. I am not bothered by this behavior but it will wind up spurring online controversy anyway because people are going to pick apart everything he does now. That's just how it is.
Anonymous
Travis was drunk. Guess what, your beloved Tay Tay gets drunk too. In public. She even writes songs about being drunk. In the back of cabs.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Travis was drunk. Guess what, your beloved Tay Tay gets drunk too. In public. She even writes songs about being drunk. In the back of cabs.


Someone posted on Reddit that she vapes and smokes weed.
Anonymous
Tom Brady, superbowl parade. go to 1:20, can't walk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptX_zFwfAuA
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Tom Brady, superbowl parade. go to 1:20, can't walk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptX_zFwfAuA


And his kids are there.
Anonymous
Low class caveman. Everything about him is ick. And he seems to be having a meltdown from the public scrutiny or something.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Tom Brady, superbowl parade. go to 1:20, can't walk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptX_zFwfAuA

I was looking for this response. And also Alex Ovechkin in the fountain in Georgetown and elsewhere. It happens.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:So this behavior is normal at parades:



Yikes.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So this behavior is normal at parades:



Yikes.

He's going with it. Playing it up. More press the sway.
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