New Additions to Leagues Check Up (ECNL & GA)

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Madison 56ers to GA after initially accepting a spot in ECRL for boys and girls.

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Anonymous wrote:I wish the pro ECNL parents could have seen the league in 2019/2020. Your cult was desperate and taking anyone that would apply.

The GA/MLSN alliance thing is going to continue gaining momentum. Just wait until clubs start switching in groups.

I'm not pro any league. IDK why people can't accept the facts that ECNL is still king with a huge gap. I'm referring to this moment in time, even after the GA additions. We all know GA has watered down their league with these mid to low additions. That doesn't mean GA won't be the top league in 3-5 years. Maybe their plan will work out. I really don't care. I don't understand why it's so hard for people to acknowledge the facts for this moment in time.

The same college scouts and recruiters attend both GA and ECNL events.

no they don't. ECNL gets double the amount of scouts especial D1 and this upcoming season it's gonna be worse for GA if their showcases dates and amounts stay the same. GA's only showcase with every age group that is their biggest turnout of coaches had a huge drop this season from the previous year. and this year, the ECNL moved their showcase up a week to the first week of DEC, the same week as the GA showcase. also the same dates as the CASL showcase in NC that has a decent turnout. so in the first week of DEC you will have:

GA Showcase - California
ECNL Showcase - Kansas City
CASL showcase - North Carolina

where you think most of the college teams will go?

Didn't ECNL numbers drop as well (which seems to be the fact always left out)?

Yes ECNL dropped too. Recruiting budgets are getting squeezed and colleges are using the transfer portal and internationals to add players. Recruiting of HS players is shrinking across the board.

only 1 showcase dropped a few coaches. other than that, every ECNL showcase INCREASED college turnout. facts. this year will be really bad for GA

More ECNL propaganda/wishcasting ^^^^^^^^^^ If they are so dominant, it wouldn't be even needed.

facts bounce your narrative...but go ahead

https://x.com/ImYouthSoccer/status/1913037261719183828/photo/1

That's a bad look to throw up the numbers showing D1 coach attendance and then showing the release of the graphic.

No D1 coaches are attending U13/14/15 events and the graphic has like 5 in there.

too one said they did. that list is only for high school aged groups. the ECNL events/showcases that are for U12/U13/U14 do not invite college coaches nor is there a sign up or a list of who signed up. I am sure maybe local coaches may show up but the tournaments around these age groups are obviously just normal showcases with competition outside their conference. my daughter has attended 2 of these at U13 & U14 and I never saw any college coaches, nor was there ever a list on the ecnl website or given to us by our head coach to email college coaches to attend our games. but GA wearing their hats backwards will always bark with no bite

Dude, the amount of time you put into dissing GA is having the opposite effect you want. Just comparing them with ECNL is raising GA's profile and putting them in the conversation. He doth protest too much.

well some of us appreciate the information people bring. so I am thankful

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[Anonymous]

DS 9th grader, would it be better to be on a GA team that will make GA playoffs or ECNL middle of the pack team that won’t make ECNL playoffs? Legit question. Potential starter on both clubs. Equal level coaching.

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Anonymous wrote:DS 9th grader, would it be better to be on a GA team that will make GA playoffs or ECNL middle of the pack team that won’t make ECNL playoffs? Legit question. Potential starter on both clubs. Equal level coaching.

This one is relatively easy to make, go with GA.

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Anonymous wrote:DS 9th grader, would it be better to be on a GA team that will make GA playoffs or ECNL middle of the pack team that won’t make ECNL playoffs? Legit question. Potential starter on both clubs. Equal level coaching.

This one is relatively easy to make, go with GA.

Ds/ga hmmm

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Anonymous wrote:Soccer wire had a really good article on the upcoming recruiting changes and the landscape moving forward. Because college rosters will be limited to 28, and they can offer all 28 full rides, college coach's will not be tossing out large nets to commit as many kids as possible hoping that a few will hit. They will be reducing their watch lists from around 80 to 30 which means they're failior rate will have to be much lower. A majority of the D1's will choose to rely on the most prominent ECNL clubs that have the highest rate of turning out top talent and national pool players. Also keeping their already deeply connected club director's close as a pipeline for top talent. It's already the halves and halve not's in recruiting but this gap will get even wider going forward. The best way to get committed D1 is to play for a top ECNL club in the country that competes regularly in the playoffs and preferably wins national champions. The historical top clubs have coaches and directors that communicate regularly with college coaches and their endorsements will now go farther than seeing kids at low level ga showcases. These will be the players dropped off the watch lists and parents and players will be left spinning their wheels to be even looked at at all.

No schools, or I should say very few schools, will have 28 scholarships for women's soccer. Lets just get that clear. Now, the reason for the wide net is because not every school has every major and not every ECNL or GA player even wants to play D1 or go to a D1 school. On top of that, players court several schools, so coaches can't put their eggs in a few players and hope they choose them over another school.

Lets look at the simple numbers:

There are 336 D1 schools, after this mess with the roster cuts - provided the courts don't allow them to be grandfathered in - they will still have to replace open spots year after year which will still be 3-8 players on average. So you get anywhere from 1008 to 2688 players needed just for D1. For 2025, the only list I know of is imyouthsoccer and he comments that the 2025 list had 1989 names which comes out to average almost 6 players per school and I'm not sure how final of a number that is - https://www.instagram.com/p/DA9aVOypqpn/. The verbal commit list he has from Jan has 1320 for the 2026 class so far and I know several D1s around here that have several spots still.

There are 128 ECNL clubs so roughly 2560 players (average 20 per team) in u19. Now we all know not every player from this list will be D1 caliber or even want to play D1 or continue soccer in college. Even if every player at the top 50 clubs went D1, which we all know isn't a thing, that would still only be about half of all D1 commits.

Coaches budgets will be lower which means less travel. Coaches would most likely cut travel to showcases farther away unless there is some kind of justification for it like number of actual targets in a single showcase. By targets I mean confirmed interested players. Coaches won't be able to spend the money to just show up and spray and prey with emails to players they liked. I'm also not sure if you ever noticed but a majority of most schools, D1 or otherwise, wind up with players close to home. Athletes may travel a little farther on average for school but most will still stay within that 400 mile radius of home. Not many players on the east coast are beating down the doors of D1 schools like Prairie View, Alabama St., Oakland Univ, or any other low tiered D1 not in their comfort zone away from home.

Anyway - So concerned about D1, this is a thing that coaches/clubs beat into players and parents as justification for the high prices and travel. Truth is this sport, like any other, is more of a tool to help a player go where they may want to go or open the possibilities of schools they never considered. I've seen all kinds over the years, from D1 or busts that took preferred walk on status ie no scholarship or even guarantee to make the team over being a D2 or D3 starter. I've seen, often, top players go to a D3 school because the school is closer, has a really good program, got them academic money, and/or is big deal for their major. Clubs should be helping players find the best fit for the player instead of trying to shoehorn or convince them that if they don't go D1 they are worthless. If they did then the transfer portal wouldn't have 1000+ players between D1 and D2 every year looking to move.

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Anonymous wrote:Madison 56ers to GA after initially accepting a spot in ECRL for boys and girls.

Clubs dropping ECNL for GA again.

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Anonymous wrote:DS 9th grader, would it be better to be on a GA team that will make GA playoffs or ECNL middle of the pack team that won’t make ECNL playoffs? Legit question. Potential starter on both clubs. Equal level coaching.

This one is relatively easy to make, go with GA.

Ds/ga hmmm

HAHAHA

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Anonymous wrote:Madison 56ers to GA after initially accepting a spot in ECRL for boys and girls.

Clubs dropping ECNL for GA again.

This isn't the win you think it is

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Anonymous wrote:DS 9th grader, would it be better to be on a GA team that will make GA playoffs or ECNL middle of the pack team that won’t make ECNL playoffs? Legit question. Potential starter on both clubs. Equal level coaching.

Top half ECNL team with outside chance of making playoffs, North American Cup or Showcase A or B, over GA Playoff team BUT....

Go GA Playoff team over bottom table ECNL.

Bottom half ECNL over any GA team with no chance of playoffs.

This should be the dividing lines for now. Even if GA has gained some steam, the landscape is going to take at the VERY least, two or three more years.

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Anonymous wrote:DS 9th grader, would it be better to be on a GA team that will make GA playoffs or ECNL middle of the pack team that won’t make ECNL playoffs? Legit question. Potential starter on both clubs. Equal level coaching.

Top half ECNL team with outside chance of making playoffs, North American Cup or Showcase A or B, over GA Playoff team BUT....

Go GA Playoff team over bottom table ECNL.

Bottom half ECNL over any GA team with no chance of playoffs.

This should be the dividing lines for now. Even if GA has gained some steam, the landscape is going to take at the VERY least, two or three more years.

Again unless I'm missing something. GA and "DS" shouldn't be in the same sentence

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Anonymous wrote:DS 9th grader, would it be better to be on a GA team that will make GA playoffs or ECNL middle of the pack team that won’t make ECNL playoffs? Legit question. Potential starter on both clubs. Equal level coaching.

Top half ECNL team with outside chance of making playoffs, North American Cup or Showcase A or B, over GA Playoff team BUT....

Go GA Playoff team over bottom table ECNL.

Bottom half ECNL over any GA team with no chance of playoffs.

This should be the dividing lines for now. Even if GA has gained some steam, the landscape is going to take at the VERY least, two or three more years.

Again unless I'm missing something. GA and "DS" shouldn't be in the same sentence

I asked the question. I’m talking about my daughter. My bad for using the wrong term. DD is girl and DS is boy. I got it now. Thanks

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GA also has Generation Addidas Cup
https://www.mlssoccer.com/generation-adidas-cup/

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Anonymous wrote:DS 9th grader, would it be better to be on a GA team that will make GA playoffs or ECNL middle of the pack team that won’t make ECNL playoffs? Legit question. Potential starter on both clubs. Equal level coaching.

This one is relatively easy to make, go with GA.

Agreed

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Anonymous wrote:Madison 56ers to GA after initially accepting a spot in ECRL for boys and girls.

Clubs dropping ECNL for GA again.

This isn't the win you think it is

Isn't Wisconsin left to one founding ECNL club anyways? (which is what is pushing 56ers and Elmbrook to GA).