Travis and Taylor

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Will Taylor Swift headline Kelce Jam, Travis' music festival he started last year?

https://kelcejam.com

Last year the festival happened the last weekend in April. Taylor's new album is slated to be released April 19th. She has no tour dates in April.

I'm just saying...

Kelce Jam is an urban music festival not teen pop.

Where can we find this Kelce Jam line up?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:How does she go from a very private life with Joe to a very public relationship with Travis? Still reeks of a PR stunt.

I’m sure she’s not over Joe.

I think out of all the men Taylor has dated Joe is the only guy that is marriage material. Travis is physically too large and mentally too slow/unstable. That combined with Taylor’s height and mental issues would ensure their kids would turnout to be giants with behavioral issues.

People never talk about the $$$ he must have made/be making as William Bowery on her pandemic albums. He benefited handsomely from that relationship. And yet he gets to be one that wanted to stay out of the spotlight-almost obsessively. Like don’t get into a relationship with the literal most famous pop star in the world if you don’t want to have the spotlight on you?

He was so obsessively anti-spotlight, that it almost seems like a control thing over her. Something that would stress her out that she had to manage and twist herself into a pretzel to accommodate. I don’t know… Maybe she’s not over him but I don’t think he was great for her.

Big downside of fame is you never really know your true friends. I was just reading Dave Grohl’s memoir, which is so good, and he talked about the joy of becoming a father in part because his baby did not know who he was, and just loved him unconditionally, and he never really had that since he got so big so young.

It’s something that us mere mortals don’t have to contend with.

I don't know, you're assuming a lot of details about the relationship with Joe the we simply cannot know. Yes he's more press shy. Taking the leap that he was "controlling" her by simply choosing not to be super public is weird though. Maybe, maybe not. It might have felt like control to her but that's different than someone actually having power over you.

Also, have you had a baby? Because I find that Dave Grohl anecdote totally relatable and I'm a total nobody. The truth is that most relationships between adults are pretty shallow and conditional. It might actually be Dave not understanding in that situation that most people don't experience unconditional love from friends or loved ones, and that was not the result of his fame but just part of being human. I think sometimes famous people get very confused about love because they experience adoration of fans, and that's addictive but ultimately shallow, so they might feel let down a lot because it feels like they should feel good from all that adoration and over time it doesn't feel that good. But I also think many regular people go through that exact process in their own small lives, discovering that friendships fade, your neighbors and colleagues don't actually care about you very much, even your own family can be a let down.

This is pretty much why people get married and have kids.

I mean… I feel really sad for you if you think most adults relationships are shallow and conditional. Work relationships and the random neighbor sure, but hopefully you experienced unconditional love before having a baby? And yes, I have kids, but it wasn’t the first time that I felt that. I could see a famous person of their status struggling with this more, because so many people have so much to gain from being around them and they have so many people saying yes to them.

If you read the book, Dave has really close relationships with his family, his wife, and a bunch of childhood friends. But certainly since he made it so big so young, he has been hurt by people who used him. I’m sure Taylor has experienced the same.

[Anonymous]

I honestly don’t know who’s worse Travis or Matt. 🤦‍♀️

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Will Taylor Swift headline Kelce Jam, Travis' music festival he started last year?

https://kelcejam.com

Last year the festival happened the last weekend in April. Taylor's new album is slated to be released April 19th. She has no tour dates in April.

I'm just saying...

Kelce Jam is an urban music festival not teen pop.

Where can we find this Kelce Jam line up?

Anytime there is “Jam” in the title you know it’s an R&B or rap concert.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Travis and his wealth over the years he has changed for sure, and I forgot how handsome he was:
https://www.instagram.com/reel/C3Qbe-puhQK/?igsh=ajJvdGEzeGUxc3Br

He looks like a lumber jack.

I do not understand the obsession with Taylor and her love life.

Especially when the guy is not attractive unless you’re into that rustic, 20 years from looking like Mick Dodge, backwoods kinda look?…

Seriously he needs to lose some weight and trim the beard and dress better.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Do you think celebrities in fake relationships have/do had/have IVF kids together for publicity?

Ugh, I really hope not.

Though there's also a spectrum here. I think there are "real" relationships that started out as PR set ups, just to see what happens. I actually think this is incredibly common. Celebrities at a certain level (or aspiring to a certain level) or never not aware of how their association with other celebs impacts them. Sometimes celebrities meet while working together and I don't assume any PR machinations there because you can see how it must have happened organically (a couple like Keri Russel and Matthew Rys). Others involve one very prominent person and one person who is "in the industry" but not celebrity famous or aspiring to be celebrity (too numerous to count, this is really common with actors/performers marrying producers, composers, writers, and directors with much lower public profiles). I also assume these are largely organic as well.

But pretty much any time two actors get together without having worked together, I assume some level of PR manipulation in at least getting them in the same room. Or maybe they meet at a party or event and seem like they *could* have chemistry, I think often PR folks will be like "hmmm that could actually be very beneficial, would you be interested in bumping into this person again and seeing where it goes."

And then I think there are the full scale PR fake relationships where PR teams put together lists of candidates for a client, maybe to address a scandal or maybe to help move someone into a higher level of visibility.

I don't think Taylor and Travis are all the way at the "Fake" end of the is spectrum, but I also don't think hey are 100% at the "Organic" end of this spectrum. I think PR were involved in them getting together pretty early on, but also that there is genuine mutual like (though I also think it's somewhat impossible to pull apart how much they genuinely like each other from how much the like how much attention they get for being together, I think these things feed one another and that this is a very common dynamic with these extremely public relationships).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Will Taylor Swift headline Kelce Jam, Travis' music festival he started last year?

https://kelcejam.com

Last year the festival happened the last weekend in April. Taylor's new album is slated to be released April 19th. She has no tour dates in April.

I'm just saying...

Kelce Jam is an urban music festival not teen pop.

Well between the Ice Spice collaboration and her relationship with Kelce, this could be the perfect pivot for her to show up and drop a surprise remix of several songs.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So let me see if I have this straight. For those who are still going on about this being a contracted fake relationship, all in the name of (you can pick your favorite here): PR, $$$, bringing more fans to the NFL, paving the way for ownership of an NFL team, forcing people to forget a bad rebound relationship, an election year political conspiracy, hiding their true sexuality, etc., etc., are you seriously suggesting that the two of them sat down and agreed to a contract? If so, here would have had to have been its terms: For the length of this “contract” you will, on your own time and dollar, attend almost every football game he plays in, even if it means flying half way around the world to do so. You will hold hands, kiss, hug, drape yourself over each other in public every chance you get, and become intimate with each other in private. Oh and be sure to act all lovey-dovey even in places where there are no cameras, like private rooms in restaurants, in case someone dares to give an eyewitness account or whips out a cell phone. You will involve your entire families and close friends to go along with the charade. After all who wouldn’t gladly give up their time and be willing to support such an important cause. You will spend every major holiday together. You will forego any chance of meeting or dating anyone else during this time. You will act like you are in love, so much so that talk of a possible engagement starts to take over the airwaves.

So all of this is happening in the name of a contracted fake relationship……seriously???

As for PR, of course there is some of that involved. There’s no way it can’t be when people of their stature become involved, but it comes as a result of the relationship, not as the cause of it.

I don’t pretend to know where this relationship will go in the long run. Maybe it goes the distance, maybe it doesn’t. All I know is what I see right now with my own eyes. I see two people who at this moment light up when they see each other, are very much into each other, in love, and having the time of their lives together. And I say good for them. And for us for however long we get to see it.

So I didn’t know PR relationships were a thing until I started listening to a podcast called Behind the Blinds. They break a lot of the Hollywood stuff down with proof and receipts.

So to answer your question, yes. That is exactly what happens. And nothing is done “privately” bc if it were truly private how did you hear about it? Every single time Taylor is photographed, filmed, etc she is aware. Her PR manager Tree is the hardest working manager. That is Taylor’s Swift true talent, cultivating her image so that people like you think she is genuine, sweet, innocent, not bi (she def dated Karlie Kloss and Dianna Argon), and an underdog.

Sure she might actually like him somewhat but the only thing Taylor Swift loves is her image.

DP - I love that podcast! But most of those relationships they discuss are people pretty desperate to be noticed. Pryanka and Joe - she was desperate to break it in the US and Joe has been sleeping with men on the DL for years - they both had huge things to gain.

Same with Camilla and Shawn and their many coffee walks with empty cups LOL. They want to be famous.

I don’t get that T and T had that much to gain / they were successful, rich, and known. So I don’t see it. But I LOVE a good fake relationship - I just don’t think this is it.

Omg Camilla and Shawn paps walk were the best lol.

Travis wasn’t really that known. They talked about Travis and Taylor on the podcast since Kelly is a Swiftie and made some really good points. I def believe this is a PR relationship.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I honestly don’t know who’s worse Travis or Matt. 🤦‍♀️

Ha this was funny. Did not bother me but maybe im progressive.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So let me see if I have this straight. For those who are still going on about this being a contracted fake relationship, all in the name of (you can pick your favorite here): PR, $$$, bringing more fans to the NFL, paving the way for ownership of an NFL team, forcing people to forget a bad rebound relationship, an election year political conspiracy, hiding their true sexuality, etc., etc., are you seriously suggesting that the two of them sat down and agreed to a contract? If so, here would have had to have been its terms: For the length of this “contract” you will, on your own time and dollar, attend almost every football game he plays in, even if it means flying half way around the world to do so. You will hold hands, kiss, hug, drape yourself over each other in public every chance you get, and become intimate with each other in private. Oh and be sure to act all lovey-dovey even in places where there are no cameras, like private rooms in restaurants, in case someone dares to give an eyewitness account or whips out a cell phone. You will involve your entire families and close friends to go along with the charade. After all who wouldn’t gladly give up their time and be willing to support such an important cause. You will spend every major holiday together. You will forego any chance of meeting or dating anyone else during this time. You will act like you are in love, so much so that talk of a possible engagement starts to take over the airwaves.

So all of this is happening in the name of a contracted fake relationship……seriously???

As for PR, of course there is some of that involved. There’s no way it can’t be when people of their stature become involved, but it comes as a result of the relationship, not as the cause of it.

I don’t pretend to know where this relationship will go in the long run. Maybe it goes the distance, maybe it doesn’t. All I know is what I see right now with my own eyes. I see two people who at this moment light up when they see each other, are very much into each other, in love, and having the time of their lives together. And I say good for them. And for us for however long we get to see it.

I think they actually care about each other. I also think they are attention-seeking, money-grubbing people who are exploiting the relationship for every penny it's worth, and I think that's tacky AF.

This is going to blow your mind -- I think Kim and Kanye really loved each other, too. It does not mean I viewed their relationship as inspiring or liked how they trotted it out and exploited it for clicks and cash.

When you are shallow and obsessed with fame and money, I expect it's quite easy to fall in love with a reasonably attractive and successful person who is the same. THAT is what is fake. They might actually love each other, but they are fake people performing their love for the masses in order to make money.

You are a damaged individual.

DP why are they damaged? Bc the truth hurts you? Taylor Swift isn’t like you and you aren’t like her.

LOL!! Uh. No. Damaged in that who spends this kind of time and energy dissecting a "fake" relationship of someone they clearly have disdain for? Who decides that's a good use of time? I mean, I can't stand Kanye West. I'm mad I just took 5 seconds type his name no less hang on a thread dedicated to him? What could ever be the point in that? Wallowing in negativity doesn't really seem like something a healthy individual would do. Go touch some grass, or something like that. But whatever, I don't care and taking my own advice. I'm out.

You decided this odd rant was a good use of your time. I won’t judge how you use your time bc it’s yours.

But I will say…this isn’t an airport, you don’t have to announce your departure.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Will Taylor Swift headline Kelce Jam, Travis' music festival he started last year?

https://kelcejam.com

Last year the festival happened the last weekend in April. Taylor's new album is slated to be released April 19th. She has no tour dates in April.

I'm just saying...

Kelce Jam is an urban music festival not teen pop.

Where can we find this Kelce Jam line up?

Anytime there is “Jam” in the title you know it’s an R&B or rap concert.

Dog whistle lol.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Travis and his wealth over the years he has changed for sure, and I forgot how handsome he was:
https://www.instagram.com/reel/C3Qbe-puhQK/?igsh=ajJvdGEzeGUxc3Br

He looks like a lumber jack.

I do not understand the obsession with Taylor and her love life.

Especially when the guy is not attractive unless you’re into that rustic, 20 years from looking like Mick Dodge, backwoods kinda look?…

Seriously he needs to lose some weight and trim the beard and dress better.

He gets paid millions of dollars to weigh 250 so he can barrel over defenders.
His current beard is a playoff beard, which he didn't trim as long as they were winning. Hopefully he'll trim it now.
He wears custom-made designer clothes, like his Super Bowl outfit.

I think Kelce is hot - his confidence, his EQ, his passion, his overt masculinity are very attractive. He's everything Joe is not. Joe was Taylor's safe harbor in a very stormy time in her life, followed by the pandemic. When that ended and she wanted to get out in the world again while Joe did not, they realized they weren't compatible.

Maybe she'll tire of Kelce's extraversion, but right now they are obviously madly in love and it's really cute. Happy Valentine's Day!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Will Taylor Swift headline Kelce Jam, Travis' music festival he started last year?

https://kelcejam.com

Last year the festival happened the last weekend in April. Taylor's new album is slated to be released April 19th. She has no tour dates in April.

I'm just saying...

Kelce Jam is an urban music festival not teen pop.

Where can we find this Kelce Jam line up?

Anytime there is “Jam” in the title you know it’s an R&B or rap concert.

Nope. My college had Clam Jam. It was awesome.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So let me see if I have this straight. For those who are still going on about this being a contracted fake relationship, all in the name of (you can pick your favorite here): PR, $$$, bringing more fans to the NFL, paving the way for ownership of an NFL team, forcing people to forget a bad rebound relationship, an election year political conspiracy, hiding their true sexuality, etc., etc., are you seriously suggesting that the two of them sat down and agreed to a contract? If so, here would have had to have been its terms: For the length of this “contract” you will, on your own time and dollar, attend almost every football game he plays in, even if it means flying half way around the world to do so. You will hold hands, kiss, hug, drape yourself over each other in public every chance you get, and become intimate with each other in private. Oh and be sure to act all lovey-dovey even in places where there are no cameras, like private rooms in restaurants, in case someone dares to give an eyewitness account or whips out a cell phone. You will involve your entire families and close friends to go along with the charade. After all who wouldn’t gladly give up their time and be willing to support such an important cause. You will spend every major holiday together. You will forego any chance of meeting or dating anyone else during this time. You will act like you are in love, so much so that talk of a possible engagement starts to take over the airwaves.

So all of this is happening in the name of a contracted fake relationship……seriously???

As for PR, of course there is some of that involved. There’s no way it can’t be when people of their stature become involved, but it comes as a result of the relationship, not as the cause of it.

I don’t pretend to know where this relationship will go in the long run. Maybe it goes the distance, maybe it doesn’t. All I know is what I see right now with my own eyes. I see two people who at this moment light up when they see each other, are very much into each other, in love, and having the time of their lives together. And I say good for them. And for us for however long we get to see it.

I think they actually care about each other. I also think they are attention-seeking, money-grubbing people who are exploiting the relationship for every penny it's worth, and I think that's tacky AF.

This is going to blow your mind -- I think Kim and Kanye really loved each other, too. It does not mean I viewed their relationship as inspiring or liked how they trotted it out and exploited it for clicks and cash.

When you are shallow and obsessed with fame and money, I expect it's quite easy to fall in love with a reasonably attractive and successful person who is the same. THAT is what is fake. They might actually love each other, but they are fake people performing their love for the masses in order to make money.

You are a damaged individual.

DP why are they damaged? Bc the truth hurts you? Taylor Swift isn’t like you and you aren’t like her.

LOL!! Uh. No. Damaged in that who spends this kind of time and energy dissecting a "fake" relationship of someone they clearly have disdain for? Who decides that's a good use of time? I mean, I can't stand Kanye West. I'm mad I just took 5 seconds type his name no less hang on a thread dedicated to him? What could ever be the point in that? Wallowing in negativity doesn't really seem like something a healthy individual would do. Go touch some grass, or something like that. But whatever, I don't care and taking my own advice. I'm out.

Dp You find it negative bc it’s not going the way you like and your feelings for Swift are…different. You do seem a little unhealthy and taking an entertainment thread too personal. Outdoor air might be good for you. I personally find this thread hilarious and entertaining. Someone mentioned a podcast about pr that sounded fun.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So let me see if I have this straight. For those who are still going on about this being a contracted fake relationship, all in the name of (you can pick your favorite here): PR, $$$, bringing more fans to the NFL, paving the way for ownership of an NFL team, forcing people to forget a bad rebound relationship, an election year political conspiracy, hiding their true sexuality, etc., etc., are you seriously suggesting that the two of them sat down and agreed to a contract? If so, here would have had to have been its terms: For the length of this “contract” you will, on your own time and dollar, attend almost every football game he plays in, even if it means flying half way around the world to do so. You will hold hands, kiss, hug, drape yourself over each other in public every chance you get, and become intimate with each other in private. Oh and be sure to act all lovey-dovey even in places where there are no cameras, like private rooms in restaurants, in case someone dares to give an eyewitness account or whips out a cell phone. You will involve your entire families and close friends to go along with the charade. After all who wouldn’t gladly give up their time and be willing to support such an important cause. You will spend every major holiday together. You will forego any chance of meeting or dating anyone else during this time. You will act like you are in love, so much so that talk of a possible engagement starts to take over the airwaves.

So all of this is happening in the name of a contracted fake relationship……seriously???

As for PR, of course there is some of that involved. There’s no way it can’t be when people of their stature become involved, but it comes as a result of the relationship, not as the cause of it.

I don’t pretend to know where this relationship will go in the long run. Maybe it goes the distance, maybe it doesn’t. All I know is what I see right now with my own eyes. I see two people who at this moment light up when they see each other, are very much into each other, in love, and having the time of their lives together. And I say good for them. And for us for however long we get to see it.

I think they actually care about each other. I also think they are attention-seeking, money-grubbing people who are exploiting the relationship for every penny it's worth, and I think that's tacky AF.

This is going to blow your mind -- I think Kim and Kanye really loved each other, too. It does not mean I viewed their relationship as inspiring or liked how they trotted it out and exploited it for clicks and cash.

When you are shallow and obsessed with fame and money, I expect it's quite easy to fall in love with a reasonably attractive and successful person who is the same. THAT is what is fake. They might actually love each other, but they are fake people performing their love for the masses in order to make money.

You are a damaged individual.

DP why are they damaged? Bc the truth hurts you? Taylor Swift isn’t like you and you aren’t like her.

LOL!! Uh. No. Damaged in that who spends this kind of time and energy dissecting a "fake" relationship of someone they clearly have disdain for? Who decides that's a good use of time? I mean, I can't stand Kanye West. I'm mad I just took 5 seconds type his name no less hang on a thread dedicated to him? What could ever be the point in that? Wallowing in negativity doesn't really seem like something a healthy individual would do. Go touch some grass, or something like that. But whatever, I don't care and taking my own advice. I'm out.

Dp You find it negative bc it’s not going the way you like and your feelings for Swift are…different. You do seem a little unhealthy and taking an entertainment thread too personal. Outdoor air might be good for you. I personally find this thread hilarious and entertaining. Someone mentioned a podcast about pr that sounded fun.

+1, it's fascinating to me the people who think speculating about this relationship is "negative." It's celebrity gossip! That's one of my favorite activities. It's how my friends and I bond. You can't take it seriously. And this relationship is extra fun because it's so over the top ridiculous and there is so much random features of it to chew on. I'm absolutely delighted to have this kvetch over in the middle of a dreary winter. It's a tonic for my seasonal affective disorder. Thank you Taylor and Travis for your service.