Gun shots on 14th street tonight!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What are the cops doing differently to handle this now?

Based on one recent case, they’re releasing without charges a man who had an illegal gun and who resisted arrest and assaulted those officers, making no effort to apprehend others who assaulted the officers with a chair, a bottle and a trash can, and talking about firing the officers and prosecuting them for using minimal force to effect the arrest of the violent, dangerous, armed, resisting man with the illegal gun.

So, worse than nothing.

The cops punched a restrained suspect in the face. That is never ok. Protect and Serve.

Also, solve cases, use the legal system, and punish those that commit violent crime. It's possible to do both. This is a peacetime city, these are not military they are cops.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What are the cops doing differently to handle this now?

Based on one recent case, they’re releasing without charges a man who had an illegal gun and who resisted arrest and assaulted those officers, making no effort to apprehend others who assaulted the officers with a chair, a bottle and a trash can, and talking about firing the officers and prosecuting them for using minimal force to effect the arrest of the violent, dangerous, armed, resisting man with the illegal gun.

So, worse than nothing.

The cops punched a restrained suspect in the face. That is never ok. Protect and Serve.

Also, solve cases, use the legal system, and punish those that commit violent crime. It's possible to do both. This is a peacetime city, these are not military they are cops.

I'm not sure why you brought up the military. Believe me, the military operate under tight rules of combat and deploy with teams of lawyers to pre-scrutinize their every move.

However, are we a peacetime city? The violence is out of control, Is it our priority to get guns off the street, or is it to get cops off the street? Seems like our record is better with the latter.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What are the cops doing differently to handle this now?

Based on one recent case, they’re releasing without charges a man who had an illegal gun and who resisted arrest and assaulted those officers, making no effort to apprehend others who assaulted the officers with a chair, a bottle and a trash can, and talking about firing the officers and prosecuting them for using minimal force to effect the arrest of the violent, dangerous, armed, resisting man with the illegal gun.

So, worse than nothing.

Maybe if we make guns even more illegal, that will do the trick!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What are the cops doing differently to handle this now?

Based on one recent case, they’re releasing without charges a man who had an illegal gun and who resisted arrest and assaulted those officers, making no effort to apprehend others who assaulted the officers with a chair, a bottle and a trash can, and talking about firing the officers and prosecuting them for using minimal force to effect the arrest of the violent, dangerous, armed, resisting man with the illegal gun.

So, worse than nothing.

To be fair to police, they DID confiscate his pistol. That’s like a $600 loss. I’d be mad!

[Anonymous]

So… how are the cops doing walking beats and talking to people? Anyone see cops around chatting with people on 14th street?

This is the main thing we need to improve policing. Swooping in as if DC is occupied ain’t going to cut it. Talking to people is the way forward.

Anyone on 14th street chatted with any cops on a beat lately?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What are the cops doing differently to handle this now?

Based on one recent case, they’re releasing without charges a man who had an illegal gun and who resisted arrest and assaulted those officers, making no effort to apprehend others who assaulted the officers with a chair, a bottle and a trash can, and talking about firing the officers and prosecuting them for using minimal force to effect the arrest of the violent, dangerous, armed, resisting man with the illegal gun.

So, worse than nothing.

The cops punched a restrained suspect in the face. That is never ok. Protect and Serve.

Also, solve cases, use the legal system, and punish those that commit violent crime. It's possible to do both. This is a peacetime city, these are not military they are cops.

So discipline the cops don't release the criminals. Seems like you are not in favor of punishing those that commit violent crime in this case.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So… how are the cops doing walking beats and talking to people? Anyone see cops around chatting with people on 14th street?

This is the main thing we need to improve policing. Swooping in as if DC is occupied ain’t going to cut it. Talking to people is the way forward.

Anyone on 14th street chatted with any cops on a beat lately?

No. I lived at 16 and R for well over a decade and neither dupont nor Logan have cops walking the beat. Ever. It makes no sense. They are not a part of the community at all. It’s a joke.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
Anyone on 14th street chatted with any cops on a beat lately?

I see plenty of cops on 14th St in Columbia Heights out walking around, especially north of Parkwood.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Anyone on 14th street chatted with any cops on a beat lately?

I see plenty of cops on 14th St in Columbia Heights out walking around, especially north of Parkwood.

Yes? Do they talk to people? Do they know residents’ names? Do they know business owners?

The difference between an occupying force and a “serve and protect” police force is just this.
Police work is walking a beat and getting to know people.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Anyone on 14th street chatted with any cops on a beat lately?

I see plenty of cops on 14th St in Columbia Heights out walking around, especially north of Parkwood.

Yes? Do they talk to people? Do they know residents’ names? Do they know business owners?

The difference between an occupying force and a “serve and protect” police force is just this.
Police work is walking a beat and getting to know people.

These are the most “dense” areas of the city. Impossible to “get to know people”. This is the downside of density and why knowing your neighbors and neighborhood stability are so important.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So… how are the cops doing walking beats and talking to people? Anyone see cops around chatting with people on 14th street?

This is the main thing we need to improve policing. Swooping in as if DC is occupied ain’t going to cut it. Talking to people is the way forward.

Anyone on 14th street chatted with any cops on a beat lately?

No. I lived at 16 and R for well over a decade and neither dupont nor Logan have cops walking the beat. Ever. It makes no sense. They are not a part of the community at all. It’s a joke.

I lived close to you 15 years ago and saw cops hanging out in vacant lots, but don't recall them interacting with anyone. I know someone who asked one of said cops hanging out in the lot what could be done about the people smoking weed outside (this was in 2005) and they shrugged and didn't care. The hostility and animosity toward cops in that area, at least in 2005, was staggering.

[Anonymous]

Nah. Cops could get to know business owners. Could chat with people.
That’s the difference between a “war on X”, arrest-stay chasing mentality, and a “serve and protect” police force that actually solves crime.

So, has anyone had a cop talk to them in this area recently? Anyone see cops walking a beat and talking to business owners?

[Anonymous]

“Arrest-stat chasing mentality” — meaning the rise of COMSTAT-like programs has broken police forces.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Nah. Cops could get to know business owners. Could chat with people.
That’s the difference between a “war on X”, arrest-stay chasing mentality, and a “serve and protect” police force that actually solves crime.

So, has anyone had a cop talk to them in this area recently? Anyone see cops walking a beat and talking to business owners?

The walk the Kennedy street beat and 14th street all the time. You’ll probably miss them if you only drive through the neighborhood neighborhood or valet park on your way in to dinner.

[Anonymous]

COMSTAT programs absolutely worked to reduce crime and homicide, and to get guns off the street. The dismantling of these programs and the attack on the legitimacy of the police post-2014/the Ferguson riots is what has undermined the effectiveness of the police. It went into high gear with the "defund the police" riots in 2020.