ICE Raids

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Anonymous wrote:Who is going to work in slaughterhouses, packing plants, wipe your 90 year old MIL's ass so you don't have to, etc.?
Best start a "all kids don't need education past HS and dropouts can get good minimum wage jobs" thread.


Always love these responses. Yes! Let's continue to allow big businesses to exploit poor and vulnerable people! That'll really show our integrity! Don't forget to add the bit about apples going up to $12. Oh and what about your lawn?!?11 who will mow that??? You big shots gonna wash your own cars too??


So you are just doubling down on your made up fantasies and are going to be even more proudly ignorant?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Who is going to work in slaughterhouses, packing plants, wipe your 90 year old MIL's ass so you don't have to, etc.?
Best start a "all kids don't need education past HS and dropouts can get good minimum wage jobs" thread.

What percentage of people working there are illegal immigrants?
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Who is going to work in slaughterhouses, packing plants, wipe your 90 year old MIL's ass so you don't have to, etc.?
Best start a "all kids don't need education past HS and dropouts can get good minimum wage jobs" thread.


Always love these responses. Yes! Let's continue to allow big businesses to exploit poor and vulnerable people! That'll really show our integrity! Don't forget to add the bit about apples going up to $12. Oh and what about your lawn?!?11 who will mow that??? You big shots gonna wash your own cars too??


So you are just doubling down on your made up fantasies and are going to be even more proudly ignorant?


Look up who owns those slaughter houses and plants. Most of those nursing homes where these immigrants are working (with fake nursing degrees) are owned by Chinese companies. But you are so far up your own tail I'm sure no one can tell you anything. So carry on with your faux outrage and self righteous beliefs.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Who is going to work in slaughterhouses, packing plants, wipe your 90 year old MIL's ass so you don't have to, etc.?
Best start a "all kids don't need education past HS and dropouts can get good minimum wage jobs" thread.


Always love these responses. Yes! Let's continue to allow big businesses to exploit poor and vulnerable people! That'll really show our integrity! Don't forget to add the bit about apples going up to $12. Oh and what about your lawn?!?11 who will mow that??? You big shots gonna wash your own cars too??


I don’t want to hear any more whining until there is a livable minimum wage for people to do these jobs and until they start arresting the company executives that knowingly hire people without papers.
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Anonymous wrote:Ok, help me understand......

Raids are to removed illegals who have removal orders issued by a judge. Either they failed to show up for their hearing or their asylum claim was denied.

Hence they are to be removed by ICE.

When I see on TV people protesting this and “don’t separate families” lines, what should be done? Not deport them even though they failed at getting asylum during an actual court date or not even showing up like they were supposed to? All the Dems claiming it is not “against the law to come here over the border and claim asylum”, what should be done? If we are not deporting people who don’t qualify for asylum or don’t show up and have a judge’s order for removal, that will encourage anyone just to come here and stay , asylum claim or not!!



What is you solution?


Totally agree! And, I have asked, on several threads.........if these people who have deportation orders cannot be deported, then who can?

This is total lunacy.


They are sending people to a foreign country notorious for torture and abuse. This has never been done before. None of these men had a hearing. Many men were picked up and sent to a prison based on tattoos.

They were picking people up who were following the rules.

You didn’t see the protests with Obama because he followed the laws when he oversaw the most deportations in history.


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Anonymous wrote:It actually won’t save us in the long run. The resources to do this costs money and the lost economic benefits cost money- it is a lose-lose to stroke your hate.


You are correct (see below). But it's never been about the money. Americans have been railing against certain groups of migrants since our founding.

Studies estimate mass deportation of 11 million undocumented immigrants costs $315-$967.9 billion, with detention alone at $167.8 billion. They contribute $96.7 billion annually in taxes, potentially rising to $136.9 billion with work authorization. Legalization could add $1.5-$1.7 trillion to GDP over 10 years. From a financial perspective, legalizing undocumented immigrants is more beneficial.
https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org
https://unidosus.org
https://itep.org



Yes, it's very expensive and due process takes a very long time. Such a shame that Biden and his cohorts thought it was okay to allow millions to cross the border with little to no vetting and then allow them to get lost in the system and give birth to anchor babies reside in sanctuary cities, go free with little to no bail if they committed crimes, enroll kids in school with no questions asked, etc.


Biden was following international and US law. The courts overtuned tools that Trump had used so Biden didn't have the same legal discretion. That is why the bi-partisan bill was needed, to fix the rules and add funding for more administrative judges to hear these cases more expediently. The bill also would have funded fentenyl scanners at the border. But trump got the GOP to tank the bill, so we still don't have a good solution. But unleashing ICE and flouting Habeas Corpus are not good solutions.
Yet no bill passed, and this legal discretion is being done differently. No one is being let in now.
Biden chose to use parole to let people in. Biden chose to use CPBOne to let people in, while Trump has renamed it CPBHome and is using it to send people away.
Biden chose to end Remain in Mexico. Trump reinstated it.
No court told Biden to stop building a wall, including canceling contracts and paying contractors to do nothing.


What Trump is doing now is not legal. But you don't care.


What those immigrants did was iillegal, and you don't care.


Seeking asylum is part of both international treaty and being a human. They have a right to have their asylum cases heard. Biden and the Dems want more judges so the cases can be heard faster. The GOP is for ignoring international law and the US Constitution and sending these people to a gulag.


Asylum does not mean millions of immigrants crossing the border illegally without any vetting to get "lost" in the system and have anchor babies while a ccessing services for free.


They also don't get to be counted for the Census to allocate congressional seats and electoral college votes to blue states.


Oh, so NOW, we care about factual census counts. Mmmmokay.


So you agree? Illegal aliens get their due process BUT are never counted for the census to allocate congressional seats and electoral college votes? It's win-win according to others on this thread. The Democrats get their cheap labor, while the Republicans prevent election interference through unfettered illegal immigration.
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Meatpacking is full of immigrants some children
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/16/us/perdue-jbs-slaughterhouses-child-labor.html
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Who is going to work in slaughterhouses, packing plants, wipe your 90 year old MIL's ass so you don't have to, etc.?
Best start a "all kids don't need education past HS and dropouts can get good minimum wage jobs" thread.


Always love these responses. Yes! Let's continue to allow big businesses to exploit poor and vulnerable people! That'll really show our integrity! Don't forget to add the bit about apples going up to $12. Oh and what about your lawn?!?11 who will mow that??? You big shots gonna wash your own cars too??


I don’t want to hear any more whining until there is a livable minimum wage for people to do these jobs and until they start arresting the company executives that knowingly hire people without papers.


I don't want to hear anymore whining until you stop pushing your continuing state welfare agenda, which necessitates the constant borrowing and printing of dollars by the federal reserve necessary to fund it.

Stop devaluing the dollar by inflating it, and people will have a living wage.
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Anonymous wrote:Who is going to work in slaughterhouses, packing plants, wipe your 90 year old MIL's ass so you don't have to, etc.?
Best start a "all kids don't need education past HS and dropouts can get good minimum wage jobs" thread.

What percentage of people working there are illegal immigrants?


Large percentage. That is why the GOP isn't raiding rural areas with immigrants, just the urban ones.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Who is going to work in slaughterhouses, packing plants, wipe your 90 year old MIL's ass so you don't have to, etc.?
Best start a "all kids don't need education past HS and dropouts can get good minimum wage jobs" thread.


Always love these responses. Yes! Let's continue to allow big businesses to exploit poor and vulnerable people! That'll really show our integrity! Don't forget to add the bit about apples going up to $12. Oh and what about your lawn?!?11 who will mow that??? You big shots gonna wash your own cars too??


I don’t want to hear any more whining until there is a livable minimum wage for people to do these jobs and until they start arresting the company executives that knowingly hire people without papers.


I don't want to hear anymore whining until you stop pushing your continuing state welfare agenda, which necessitates the constant borrowing and printing of dollars by the federal reserve necessary to fund it.

Stop devaluing the dollar by inflating it, and people will have a living wage.


Did you know that W Bush and Trump are responsible for 57% of the national debt? So when you are talking about welfare, you are really talking about the government subsidizing the rich.
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Anonymous wrote:Someone needs to explain exactly why these people are being terrorized and what threat they present to the general public.

https://bsky.app/profile/theswprincess.bsky.social/post/3loqlw7znfk2n

Also, how does this help with inflation or any of the other issues facing our country?


Tens of millions of people here illegally.
When they see people having their assets seized and placed in prison, anyone, not just criminals, and then deported with no luggage,
many of these illegals will choose to leave on their own, getting to leave with luggage and money and not having to be in prison.



Being here illegally is not a crime. I again ask, what harm are these people causing that they deserve to be chased down in the streets by masked men?


Umm... you just admitted it is a crime. Is that you AOC?


Go read the SCOTUS ruling in Arizona v US.



Entering the United States illegally is a crime.

Being here illegally after overstaying a visa is a civil infraction. It’s easier to deport illegal immigrants through civil proceedings. Illegal immigrants face a special judge, the government does not need to provide them representation and the burden of proof falls completely on the illegal.


Go read United State versus Arizona. You keep repeating these things with such certainty and it does you a disservice.


I’m sorry that someone you align with mislead you about illegal entry.

Check §§ 1325 and 1326. Misdemeanor. Felony.


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Anonymous wrote:It actually won’t save us in the long run. The resources to do this costs money and the lost economic benefits cost money- it is a lose-lose to stroke your hate.


You are correct (see below). But it's never been about the money. Americans have been railing against certain groups of migrants since our founding.

Studies estimate mass deportation of 11 million undocumented immigrants costs $315-$967.9 billion, with detention alone at $167.8 billion. They contribute $96.7 billion annually in taxes, potentially rising to $136.9 billion with work authorization. Legalization could add $1.5-$1.7 trillion to GDP over 10 years. From a financial perspective, legalizing undocumented immigrants is more beneficial.
https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org
https://unidosus.org
https://itep.org



Yes, it's very expensive and due process takes a very long time. Such a shame that Biden and his cohorts thought it was okay to allow millions to cross the border with little to no vetting and then allow them to get lost in the system and give birth to anchor babies reside in sanctuary cities, go free with little to no bail if they committed crimes, enroll kids in school with no questions asked, etc.


Biden was following international and US law. The courts overtuned tools that Trump had used so Biden didn't have the same legal discretion. That is why the bi-partisan bill was needed, to fix the rules and add funding for more administrative judges to hear these cases more expediently. The bill also would have funded fentenyl scanners at the border. But trump got the GOP to tank the bill, so we still don't have a good solution. But unleashing ICE and flouting Habeas Corpus are not good solutions.
Yet no bill passed, and this legal discretion is being done differently. No one is being let in now.
Biden chose to use parole to let people in. Biden chose to use CPBOne to let people in, while Trump has renamed it CPBHome and is using it to send people away.
Biden chose to end Remain in Mexico. Trump reinstated it.
No court told Biden to stop building a wall, including canceling contracts and paying contractors to do nothing.


What Trump is doing now is not legal. But you don't care.


What those immigrants did was iillegal, and you don't care.


Seeking asylum is part of both international treaty and being a human. They have a right to have their asylum cases heard. Biden and the Dems want more judges so the cases can be heard faster. The GOP is for ignoring international law and the US Constitution and sending these people to a gulag.


Asylum does not mean millions of immigrants crossing the border illegally without any vetting to get "lost" in the system and have anchor babies while a ccessing services for free.


This is not happening. Stephen Miller tells you it happens because he thinks you're a complete idiot. And he's right.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Who is going to work in slaughterhouses, packing plants, wipe your 90 year old MIL's ass so you don't have to, etc.?
Best start a "all kids don't need education past HS and dropouts can get good minimum wage jobs" thread.



Put another way, you are asking “but who will pick the cotton?”
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Anonymous wrote:It actually won’t save us in the long run. The resources to do this costs money and the lost economic benefits cost money- it is a lose-lose to stroke your hate.


You are correct (see below). But it's never been about the money. Americans have been railing against certain groups of migrants since our founding.

Studies estimate mass deportation of 11 million undocumented immigrants costs $315-$967.9 billion, with detention alone at $167.8 billion. They contribute $96.7 billion annually in taxes, potentially rising to $136.9 billion with work authorization. Legalization could add $1.5-$1.7 trillion to GDP over 10 years. From a financial perspective, legalizing undocumented immigrants is more beneficial.
https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org
https://unidosus.org
https://itep.org



Yes, it's very expensive and due process takes a very long time. Such a shame that Biden and his cohorts thought it was okay to allow millions to cross the border with little to no vetting and then allow them to get lost in the system and give birth to anchor babies reside in sanctuary cities, go free with little to no bail if they committed crimes, enroll kids in school with no questions asked, etc.


Biden was following international and US law. The courts overtuned tools that Trump had used so Biden didn't have the same legal discretion. That is why the bi-partisan bill was needed, to fix the rules and add funding for more administrative judges to hear these cases more expediently. The bill also would have funded fentenyl scanners at the border. But trump got the GOP to tank the bill, so we still don't have a good solution. But unleashing ICE and flouting Habeas Corpus are not good solutions.
Yet no bill passed, and this legal discretion is being done differently. No one is being let in now.
Biden chose to use parole to let people in. Biden chose to use CPBOne to let people in, while Trump has renamed it CPBHome and is using it to send people away.
Biden chose to end Remain in Mexico. Trump reinstated it.
No court told Biden to stop building a wall, including canceling contracts and paying contractors to do nothing.


What Trump is doing now is not legal. But you don't care.


What those immigrants did was iillegal, and you don't care.


Seeking asylum is part of both international treaty and being a human. They have a right to have their asylum cases heard. Biden and the Dems want more judges so the cases can be heard faster. The GOP is for ignoring international law and the US Constitution and sending these people to a gulag.


Asylum does not mean millions of immigrants crossing the border illegally without any vetting to get "lost" in the system and have anchor babies while a ccessing services for free.


This is not happening. Stephen Miller tells you it happens because he thinks you're a complete idiot. And he's right.


Which part did not happen?
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It actually won’t save us in the long run. The resources to do this costs money and the lost economic benefits cost money- it is a lose-lose to stroke your hate.


You are correct (see below). But it's never been about the money. Americans have been railing against certain groups of migrants since our founding.

Studies estimate mass deportation of 11 million undocumented immigrants costs $315-$967.9 billion, with detention alone at $167.8 billion. They contribute $96.7 billion annually in taxes, potentially rising to $136.9 billion with work authorization. Legalization could add $1.5-$1.7 trillion to GDP over 10 years. From a financial perspective, legalizing undocumented immigrants is more beneficial.
https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org
https://unidosus.org
https://itep.org



Yes, it's very expensive and due process takes a very long time. Such a shame that Biden and his cohorts thought it was okay to allow millions to cross the border with little to no vetting and then allow them to get lost in the system and give birth to anchor babies reside in sanctuary cities, go free with little to no bail if they committed crimes, enroll kids in school with no questions asked, etc.


Biden was following international and US law. The courts overtuned tools that Trump had used so Biden didn't have the same legal discretion. That is why the bi-partisan bill was needed, to fix the rules and add funding for more administrative judges to hear these cases more expediently. The bill also would have funded fentenyl scanners at the border. But trump got the GOP to tank the bill, so we still don't have a good solution. But unleashing ICE and flouting Habeas Corpus are not good solutions.
Yet no bill passed, and this legal discretion is being done differently. No one is being let in now.
Biden chose to use parole to let people in. Biden chose to use CPBOne to let people in, while Trump has renamed it CPBHome and is using it to send people away.
Biden chose to end Remain in Mexico. Trump reinstated it.
No court told Biden to stop building a wall, including canceling contracts and paying contractors to do nothing.


What Trump is doing now is not legal. But you don't care.


What those immigrants did was iillegal, and you don't care.


Seeking asylum is part of both international treaty and being a human. They have a right to have their asylum cases heard. Biden and the Dems want more judges so the cases can be heard faster. The GOP is for ignoring international law and the US Constitution and sending these people to a gulag.


Asylum does not mean millions of immigrants crossing the border illegally without any vetting to get "lost" in the system and have anchor babies while a ccessing services for free.


This is not happening. Stephen Miller tells you it happens because he thinks you're a complete idiot. And he's right.


Which part did not happen?


+1. I don't believe Mr. Miller wrote this article. https://www.nytimes.com/2024/12/11/briefing/the-largest-immigration-surge-in-us-history.html?smid=nytcore-android-share
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