What do Atheists believe?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:As a believer I have no problem with atheists. I just have a problem when atheists say things like there’s no God. How about I don’t believe in any God or gods, but acknowledge others do and be respectful of that?

Do you have a problem with someone, atheist or not, saying there are no unicorns, there is no tooth fairy, there is no Santa Claus, there are no ghosts, there are no vampires, there is no bigfoot, there are no djinns, etc.? Do all of those have to be respectfully couched in a phrasing of personal belief since others do believe in all of those?

Atheists lack basic respect. You don’t compare someone’s beliefs to Bigfoot.

Again when I lived in the Middle East among Muslims, the last thing I ever would have done is equate their religion with belief in Bigfoot or vampires.

It’s just childish.

You must be very strong, to weild such a broad brush.

As for bigfoot, there are people who really, sincerely believe in bigfoot. Are you saying that stating that there is no bigfoot within their earshot is disrespectful? Should I be sure that no one in a room believes before making that statement, to be polite (and wouldn't that defeat the purpose of the statement?)?

Many, many people believe in ghosts and djinns. Millions. Do the same rules apply for ghosts and djinns as God? If not, why not?

Finally, is it disrespectful for a theist to declare that God is Good or state some other unqualified affirmation of God's existence if there might be atheists within earshot? If not, why not?

[Anonymous]

Nope. And Atheists have every right to declare they personally don’t believe in Hod.

It’s a personal decision. Your opinion doesn’t negate mine nor mine yours.

Too many atheists here declare their personal belief that there is no God as factual. For them it is, but not factual as in it’s proven somewhere no God exists.

[Anonymous]

Joe was such an a-hole last night. We were at a party to celebrate Sarah’s birthday and he had one too many and he started in on how there’s no Bigfoot. He clearly knows Mike is a Bigfoot tracker. Mike was classy and ignored him but it really soured the mood. I wish Joe would grow the f-up. Mike really is committed to bringing Bigfoot in and devoted much of his time, effort, and money to doing so. -the logic of pp

[Anonymous]

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It’s always exciting when someone such as pp denies God exists but assigns all evil to Him.

Quite a contradiction.

Pointing out a contradiction is not the same as asserting it.

To be crystal clear: Atheists don't believe in a god, and most think if there were one those contradictions -- like pediatric cancer -- would not exist. It is more evidence showing god is unlikely to exist.

[Anonymous]

What's with bringing other threads here?

How do you know it's only Athiests asking those questions?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:As a believer I have no problem with atheists. I just have a problem when atheists say things like there’s no God. How about I don’t believe in any God or gods, but acknowledge others do and be respectful of that?

Gentle, respectful question: do you ever say "there is a God," or "God is good," instead of "I believe there is a God" or "I believe in a good God?"

If asked I always reply I believe in God. I do believe there is a God. God is good. I praise him. Respectfully, do believers have a right to express they do believe in God? Or must we remain mute?

I don’t believe in Allah, but if someone says praise Allah, I would not try to argue with them. Or ask them to not express their belief in him. Or be offended they presume they can praise him in my presence. I actually have lived in various countries in the Middle East and at no point did I ever have contact with a Muslim and was offended by their practice of their religion.

If Atheists believe in no God, that’s fine. But I have never tried to convince or question their beliefs, or convince them their is a God.

Non-believers here openly mock the Christian God and ask why He causes cancer and evil in humans. Although that’s a question even Christians struggle with at times, it seems like God is always blamed for the evil of the world but never given credit for the good.

Let’s say there’s a God. And he allows evil. Does he not therefore allow good? If a child dies from cancer, does he not also heal a child from cancer?

That he chooses which innocent child to die from cancer and which one to heal seems pretty cruel. A omnipotent, loving God could have them both live. But he doesn't. Not because he's mean or mysterious. Because he doesn't exist.

I imagine you tryping that so furiously. With a furrowed brow, full of righteousness. Like an atheist church lady! OMG! Atheists have bitter old church ladies too! Lulz!

Hmm, I'm not PP, but PP's statement does not seem righteous to me. It seems like a really fair point, actually -- how could an all-powerful, all-knowing, all-loving God allow one child to suffer and die and another to suffer and live? (Or allow ANY children to suffer, for that matter?)

Further, the fact that you're LAUGHING OUT LOUD at the PP for expressing legitimate emotion regarding the cruelty of children getting and dying of cancer is just...

+1

[Anonymous]

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It’s always exciting when someone such as pp denies God exists but assigns all evil to Him.

Quite a contradiction.

Pointing out a contradiction is not the same as asserting it.

To be crystal clear: Atheists don't believe in a god, and most think if there were one those contradictions -- like pediatric cancer -- would not exist. It is more evidence showing god is unlikely to exist.

Where in the Bible did God promise humans perfect health or immortality?

He didn’t. Your theory is based on false assumption.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

It’s always exciting when someone such as pp denies God exists but assigns all evil to Him.

Quite a contradiction.

Pointing out a contradiction is not the same as asserting it.

To be crystal clear: Atheists don't believe in a god, and most think if there were one those contradictions -- like pediatric cancer -- would not exist. It is more evidence showing god is unlikely to exist.

Where in the Bible did God promise humans perfect health or immortality?

He didn’t. Your theory is based on false assumption.

God only promises eternal life to people who follow his rules and worship him. Everything else is a crapshoot. Just because he's omnipotent doesn't mean he's going to give you perfect health. He'll dole out pain and privilege as he sees fit. It is not ours to question him.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

It’s always exciting when someone such as pp denies God exists but assigns all evil to Him.

Quite a contradiction.

Pointing out a contradiction is not the same as asserting it.

To be crystal clear: Atheists don't believe in a god, and most think if there were one those contradictions -- like pediatric cancer -- would not exist. It is more evidence showing god is unlikely to exist.

Where in the Bible did God promise humans perfect health or immortality?

He didn’t. Your theory is based on false assumption.

God only promises eternal life to people who follow his rules and worship him. Everything else is a crapshoot. Just because he's omnipotent doesn't mean he's going to give you perfect health. He'll dole out pain and privilege as he sees fit. It is not ours to question him.

False assumption 2: God gives ill health to people.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

It’s always exciting when someone such as pp denies God exists but assigns all evil to Him.

Quite a contradiction.

Pointing out a contradiction is not the same as asserting it.

To be crystal clear: Atheists don't believe in a god, and most think if there were one those contradictions -- like pediatric cancer -- would not exist. It is more evidence showing god is unlikely to exist.

Where in the Bible did God promise humans perfect health or immortality?

He didn’t. Your theory is based on false assumption.

God only promises eternal life to people who follow his rules and worship him. Everything else is a crapshoot. Just because he's omnipotent doesn't mean he's going to give you perfect health. He'll dole out pain and privilege as he sees fit. It is not ours to question him.

Maybe it's not yours to question him, but it sure as heck is mine. Keep your rules to yourself. You are entitled to believe what you want, but when you start saying "it's not ours" you cross the line.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

It’s always exciting when someone such as pp denies God exists but assigns all evil to Him.

Quite a contradiction.

Pointing out a contradiction is not the same as asserting it.

To be crystal clear: Atheists don't believe in a god, and most think if there were one those contradictions -- like pediatric cancer -- would not exist. It is more evidence showing god is unlikely to exist.

Where in the Bible did God promise humans perfect health or immortality?

He didn’t. Your theory is based on false assumption.

God only promises eternal life to people who follow his rules and worship him. Everything else is a crapshoot. Just because he's omnipotent doesn't mean he's going to give you perfect health. He'll dole out pain and privilege as he sees fit. It is not ours to question him.

Maybe it's not yours to question him, but it sure as heck is mine. Keep your rules to yourself. You are entitled to believe what you want, but when you start saying "it's not ours" you cross the line.

Not questioning God is pretty typically of many religions. It may cross your line -- that doesn't make it wrong.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

It’s always exciting when someone such as pp denies God exists but assigns all evil to Him.

Quite a contradiction.

Pointing out a contradiction is not the same as asserting it.

To be crystal clear: Atheists don't believe in a god, and most think if there were one those contradictions -- like pediatric cancer -- would not exist. It is more evidence showing god is unlikely to exist.

Where in the Bible did God promise humans perfect health or immortality?

He didn’t. Your theory is based on false assumption.

God only promises eternal life to people who follow his rules and worship him. Everything else is a crapshoot. Just because he's omnipotent doesn't mean he's going to give you perfect health. He'll dole out pain and privilege as he sees fit. It is not ours to question him.

Maybe it's not yours to question him, but it sure as heck is mine. Keep your rules to yourself. You are entitled to believe what you want, but when you start saying "it's not ours" you cross the line.

Not questioning God is pretty typically of many religions. It may cross your line -- that doesn't make it wrong.

Plus, people in the Bible questioned God. Job, for example. Even Jesus asked God "why did you abandon me?"

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Nope. And Atheists have every right to declare they personally don’t believe in Hod.

It’s a personal decision. Your opinion doesn’t negate mine nor mine yours.

Too many atheists here declare their personal belief that there is no God as factual. For them it is, but not factual as in it’s proven somewhere no God exists.

Is this just as objectionable when believers do it?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Joe was such an a-hole last night. We were at a party to celebrate Sarah’s birthday and he had one too many and he started in on how there’s no Bigfoot. He clearly knows Mike is a Bigfoot tracker. Mike was classy and ignored him but it really soured the mood. I wish Joe would grow the f-up. Mike really is committed to bringing Bigfoot in and devoted much of his time, effort, and money to doing so. -the logic of pp

Mike was such an a-hole last night. We were at a party to celebrate Sarah’s birthday and he had one too many and he started in on how Bigfoot is real. He clearly knows Joe doesn't believe in Bigfoot. Joe was classy and ignored him but it really soured the mood. I wish Mike would grow the f-up. Joe really is committed to his belief that Bigfoot is a myth and devoted much of his time, effort, and money to encourage a focus on science and humanism. -the logic of pp

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Nope. And Atheists have every right to declare they personally don’t believe in Hod.

It’s a personal decision. Your opinion doesn’t negate mine nor mine yours.

Too many atheists here declare their personal belief that there is no God as factual. For them it is, but not factual as in it’s proven somewhere no God exists.

Is this just as objectionable when believers do it?

Believers are the majority, so most people agree with their views on the existence of God. When belief in God comes up, atheists often say nothing at all, leading believers to think that their views are correct. Believers are offended and surprised when some atheists express their beliefs. Some believers are shaken - surprised that anyone would dare express such an unpopular view and perhaps questioning their beliefs for the first time.