Concerned about buying in WJ cluster because of re-zoning

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If you value your childrens’ education, which the illiterate post by OP shows he does not, you’ll send them to Churchill, Wootton or Whitman. Fin.


+1

Its also OK to have a different priority set. You can decide that education isn't your top priority. I know people in other areas who did decide that top schools weren't their biggest priority. They wanted a bigger house and to feel like the "richer people" in the school rather than the "poorer people". They are perfectly fine and proud of this choice so more power to them. What is so strange in this area is that the people in the bad DCC schools seem to want to pretend that their schools aren't bad. They can't be that clueless, its pretty clear that Blair, Einstein and Wheaton are not strong school.

If education isn't a priority then choose Einstein or Wheaton and own your decision. You'll probably have a bigger house or feel more "on top".

If education is a priority them choose Wootton, Whitman or Churchill own your decision. You'll probably have a smaller house not feel rich.


Agree mostly here. WJ was a happy medium and that option is gone now.

Those schools are remarkably mediocre for being so segregated
Anonymous
You can get good education in many DCC schools, but yah price of house will fall in WJ boundaries when Woodward becomes a part of DCC.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
If you value your childrens’ education, which the illiterate post by OP shows he does not, you’ll send them to Churchill, Wootton or Whitman. Fin.


+1

Its also OK to have a different priority set. You can decide that education isn't your top priority. I know people in other areas who did decide that top schools weren't their biggest priority. They wanted a bigger house and to feel like the "richer people" in the school rather than the "poorer people". They are perfectly fine and proud of this choice so more power to them. What is so strange in this area is that the people in the bad DCC schools seem to want to pretend that their schools aren't bad. They can't be that clueless, its pretty clear that Blair, Einstein and Wheaton are not strong school.

If education isn't a priority then choose Einstein or Wheaton and own your decision. You'll probably have a bigger house or feel more "on top".

If education is a priority them choose Wootton, Whitman or Churchill own your decision. You'll probably have a smaller house not feel rich.


Agree mostly here. WJ was a happy medium and that option is gone now.

Those schools are remarkably mediocre for being so segregated


What are you babbling about? They are great schools, but they’ll get dragged down (first WJ, then Wootton, and finally the others) by the demographic forces that are gradually sinking the county.
Anonymous
Winston is an 11 according to GS but that area is sooooo expensive! :p
Anonymous
Stick with Churchill or Whitman if you can swing it.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
If you value your childrens’ education, which the illiterate post by OP shows he does not, you’ll send them to Churchill, Wootton or Whitman. Fin.


+1

Its also OK to have a different priority set. You can decide that education isn't your top priority. I know people in other areas who did decide that top schools weren't their biggest priority. They wanted a bigger house and to feel like the "richer people" in the school rather than the "poorer people". They are perfectly fine and proud of this choice so more power to them. What is so strange in this area is that the people in the bad DCC schools seem to want to pretend that their schools aren't bad. They can't be that clueless, its pretty clear that Blair, Einstein and Wheaton are not strong school.

If education isn't a priority then choose Einstein or Wheaton and own your decision. You'll probably have a bigger house or feel more "on top".

If education is a priority them choose Wootton, Whitman or Churchill own your decision. You'll probably have a smaller house not feel rich.


Agree mostly here. WJ was a happy medium and that option is gone now.

Those schools are remarkably mediocre for being so segregated


What are you babbling about? They are great schools, but they’ll get dragged down (first WJ, then Wootton, and finally the others) by the demographic forces that are gradually sinking the county.


Test scores of demographic cohorts at these schools are almost identical to all other MCPS schools. The quality of education is the same. The difference is fewer low SES kids bringing down the average. So basically your idea of a good school is one that is highly segregated?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Winston is an 11 according to GS but that area is sooooo expensive! :p


Winston is the best!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
If you value your childrens’ education, which the illiterate post by OP shows he does not, you’ll send them to Churchill, Wootton or Whitman. Fin.


+1

Its also OK to have a different priority set. You can decide that education isn't your top priority. I know people in other areas who did decide that top schools weren't their biggest priority. They wanted a bigger house and to feel like the "richer people" in the school rather than the "poorer people". They are perfectly fine and proud of this choice so more power to them. What is so strange in this area is that the people in the bad DCC schools seem to want to pretend that their schools aren't bad. They can't be that clueless, its pretty clear that Blair, Einstein and Wheaton are not strong school.

If education isn't a priority then choose Einstein or Wheaton and own your decision. You'll probably have a bigger house or feel more "on top".

If education is a priority them choose Wootton, Whitman or Churchill own your decision. You'll probably have a smaller house not feel rich.


Agree mostly here. WJ was a happy medium and that option is gone now.

Those schools are remarkably mediocre for being so segregated


What are you babbling about? They are great schools, but they’ll get dragged down (first WJ, then Wootton, and finally the others) by the demographic forces that are gradually sinking the county.


Test scores of demographic cohorts at these schools are almost identical to all other MCPS schools. The quality of education is the same. The difference is fewer low SES kids bringing down the average. So basically your idea of a good school is one that is highly segregated?


Whitman's average SAT score 1897.

Are you claiming that average SAT score for whites in non-FARMs in all MCPS schools is around 1900? I will appreciate if you can provide some links.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
If you value your childrens’ education, which the illiterate post by OP shows he does not, you’ll send them to Churchill, Wootton or Whitman. Fin.


+1

Its also OK to have a different priority set. You can decide that education isn't your top priority. I know people in other areas who did decide that top schools weren't their biggest priority. They wanted a bigger house and to feel like the "richer people" in the school rather than the "poorer people". They are perfectly fine and proud of this choice so more power to them. What is so strange in this area is that the people in the bad DCC schools seem to want to pretend that their schools aren't bad. They can't be that clueless, its pretty clear that Blair, Einstein and Wheaton are not strong school.

If education isn't a priority then choose Einstein or Wheaton and own your decision. You'll probably have a bigger house or feel more "on top".

If education is a priority them choose Wootton, Whitman or Churchill own your decision. You'll probably have a smaller house not feel rich.


Agree mostly here. WJ was a happy medium and that option is gone now.

Those schools are remarkably mediocre for being so segregated


What are you babbling about? They are great schools, but they’ll get dragged down (first WJ, then Wootton, and finally the others) by the demographic forces that are gradually sinking the county.


Test scores of demographic cohorts at these schools are almost identical to all other MCPS schools. The quality of education is the same. The difference is fewer low SES kids bringing down the average. So basically your idea of a good school is one that is highly segregated?


Whitman's average SAT score 1897.

Are you claiming that average SAT score for whites in non-FARMs in all MCPS schools is around 1900? I will appreciate if you can provide some links.


Not the PP but would be curious to see if that data is available.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
If you value your childrens’ education, which the illiterate post by OP shows he does not, you’ll send them to Churchill, Wootton or Whitman. Fin.


+1

Its also OK to have a different priority set. You can decide that education isn't your top priority. I know people in other areas who did decide that top schools weren't their biggest priority. They wanted a bigger house and to feel like the "richer people" in the school rather than the "poorer people". They are perfectly fine and proud of this choice so more power to them. What is so strange in this area is that the people in the bad DCC schools seem to want to pretend that their schools aren't bad. They can't be that clueless, its pretty clear that Blair, Einstein and Wheaton are not strong school.

If education isn't a priority then choose Einstein or Wheaton and own your decision. You'll probably have a bigger house or feel more "on top".

If education is a priority them choose Wootton, Whitman or Churchill own your decision. You'll probably have a smaller house not feel rich.


Agree mostly here. WJ was a happy medium and that option is gone now.

Those schools are remarkably mediocre for being so segregated


What are you babbling about? They are great schools, but they’ll get dragged down (first WJ, then Wootton, and finally the others) by the demographic forces that are gradually sinking the county.


Test scores of demographic cohorts at these schools are almost identical to all other MCPS schools. The quality of education is the same. The difference is fewer low SES kids bringing down the average. So basically your idea of a good school is one that is highly segregated?


Whitman's average SAT score 1897.

Are you claiming that average SAT score for whites in non-FARMs in all MCPS schools is around 1900? I will appreciate if you can provide some links.


Not the PP but would be curious to see if that data is available.


It's closer than people think. The same child would do the same at any of these schools, but the real-estate industry loves it when people believe otherwise. This is sadly the new form of redlining.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
If you value your childrens’ education, which the illiterate post by OP shows he does not, you’ll send them to Churchill, Wootton or Whitman. Fin.


+1

Its also OK to have a different priority set. You can decide that education isn't your top priority. I know people in other areas who did decide that top schools weren't their biggest priority. They wanted a bigger house and to feel like the "richer people" in the school rather than the "poorer people". They are perfectly fine and proud of this choice so more power to them. What is so strange in this area is that the people in the bad DCC schools seem to want to pretend that their schools aren't bad. They can't be that clueless, its pretty clear that Blair, Einstein and Wheaton are not strong school.

If education isn't a priority then choose Einstein or Wheaton and own your decision. You'll probably have a bigger house or feel more "on top".

If education is a priority them choose Wootton, Whitman or Churchill own your decision. You'll probably have a smaller house not feel rich.


Agree mostly here. WJ was a happy medium and that option is gone now.

Those schools are remarkably mediocre for being so segregated


What are you babbling about? They are great schools, but they’ll get dragged down (first WJ, then Wootton, and finally the others) by the demographic forces that are gradually sinking the county.


Test scores of demographic cohorts at these schools are almost identical to all other MCPS schools. The quality of education is the same. The difference is fewer low SES kids bringing down the average. So basically your idea of a good school is one that is highly segregated?


Whitman's average SAT score 1897.

Are you claiming that average SAT score for whites in non-FARMs in all MCPS schools is around 1900? I will appreciate if you can provide some links.


Not the PP but would be curious to see if that data is available.


It's closer than people think. The same child would do the same at any of these schools, but the real-estate industry loves it when people believe otherwise. This is sadly the new form of redlining.


Any stats for non-FARMs white subgroup? I am not the PP, I will also like to see stats.
Anonymous
Wheaton and Einstein will bring test scores down, but over all Woodward should be better in test scores than Wheaton and Einstein.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
If you value your childrens’ education, which the illiterate post by OP shows he does not, you’ll send them to Churchill, Wootton or Whitman. Fin.


+1

Its also OK to have a different priority set. You can decide that education isn't your top priority. I know people in other areas who did decide that top schools weren't their biggest priority. They wanted a bigger house and to feel like the "richer people" in the school rather than the "poorer people". They are perfectly fine and proud of this choice so more power to them. What is so strange in this area is that the people in the bad DCC schools seem to want to pretend that their schools aren't bad. They can't be that clueless, its pretty clear that Blair, Einstein and Wheaton are not strong school.

If education isn't a priority then choose Einstein or Wheaton and own your decision. You'll probably have a bigger house or feel more "on top".

If education is a priority them choose Wootton, Whitman or Churchill own your decision. You'll probably have a smaller house not feel rich.


Agree mostly here. WJ was a happy medium and that option is gone now.

Those schools are remarkably mediocre for being so segregated


What are you babbling about? They are great schools, but they’ll get dragged down (first WJ, then Wootton, and finally the others) by the demographic forces that are gradually sinking the county.


Test scores of demographic cohorts at these schools are almost identical to all other MCPS schools. The quality of education is the same. The difference is fewer low SES kids bringing down the average. So basically your idea of a good school is one that is highly segregated?


Whitman's average SAT score 1897.

Are you claiming that average SAT score for whites in non-FARMs in all MCPS schools is around 1900? I will appreciate if you can provide some links.


Ok, here, page 8: http://montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/sharedaccountability/reports/2017/1771102HS%20Princ_SAT%20Partic_Perf%20Class%20of%202017.pdf

They use new SAT scoring now. At every school in the county, the SAT scores of the white kids are within 100 points of the white kid average of 1223. So the entire range of white kids' averages is 1100-1300. This is otherwise known as about the increase associated with having taken a test prep course. So, I wouldn't use SAT scores as the reason why you should buy a $1.5 million house instead of a $500k house.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
If you value your childrens’ education, which the illiterate post by OP shows he does not, you’ll send them to Churchill, Wootton or Whitman. Fin.


+1

Its also OK to have a different priority set. You can decide that education isn't your top priority. I know people in other areas who did decide that top schools weren't their biggest priority. They wanted a bigger house and to feel like the "richer people" in the school rather than the "poorer people". They are perfectly fine and proud of this choice so more power to them. What is so strange in this area is that the people in the bad DCC schools seem to want to pretend that their schools aren't bad. They can't be that clueless, its pretty clear that Blair, Einstein and Wheaton are not strong school.

If education isn't a priority then choose Einstein or Wheaton and own your decision. You'll probably have a bigger house or feel more "on top".

If education is a priority them choose Wootton, Whitman or Churchill own your decision. You'll probably have a smaller house not feel rich.


Agree mostly here. WJ was a happy medium and that option is gone now.

Those schools are remarkably mediocre for being so segregated


What are you babbling about? They are great schools, but they’ll get dragged down (first WJ, then Wootton, and finally the others) by the demographic forces that are gradually sinking the county.


Test scores of demographic cohorts at these schools are almost identical to all other MCPS schools. The quality of education is the same. The difference is fewer low SES kids bringing down the average. So basically your idea of a good school is one that is highly segregated?


Whitman's average SAT score 1897.

Are you claiming that average SAT score for whites in non-FARMs in all MCPS schools is around 1900? I will appreciate if you can provide some links.


Ok, here, page 8: http://montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/sharedaccountability/reports/2017/1771102HS%20Princ_SAT%20Partic_Perf%20Class%20of%202017.pdf

They use new SAT scoring now. At every school in the county, the SAT scores of the white kids are within 100 points of the white kid average of 1223. So the entire range of white kids' averages is 1100-1300. This is otherwise known as about the increase associated with having taken a test prep course. So, I wouldn't use SAT scores as the reason why you should buy a $1.5 million house instead of a $500k house.


Preach!

-signed DCC parent whose kid's PSAT score is higher than Whitman's average SAT score (and kid for got to bring a calculator!)
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
If you value your childrens’ education, which the illiterate post by OP shows he does not, you’ll send them to Churchill, Wootton or Whitman. Fin.


+1

Its also OK to have a different priority set. You can decide that education isn't your top priority. I know people in other areas who did decide that top schools weren't their biggest priority. They wanted a bigger house and to feel like the "richer people" in the school rather than the "poorer people". They are perfectly fine and proud of this choice so more power to them. What is so strange in this area is that the people in the bad DCC schools seem to want to pretend that their schools aren't bad. They can't be that clueless, its pretty clear that Blair, Einstein and Wheaton are not strong school.

If education isn't a priority then choose Einstein or Wheaton and own your decision. You'll probably have a bigger house or feel more "on top".

If education is a priority them choose Wootton, Whitman or Churchill own your decision. You'll probably have a smaller house not feel rich.


Agree mostly here. WJ was a happy medium and that option is gone now.

Those schools are remarkably mediocre for being so segregated


What are you babbling about? They are great schools, but they’ll get dragged down (first WJ, then Wootton, and finally the others) by the demographic forces that are gradually sinking the county.


Test scores of demographic cohorts at these schools are almost identical to all other MCPS schools. The quality of education is the same. The difference is fewer low SES kids bringing down the average. So basically your idea of a good school is one that is highly segregated?


Whitman's average SAT score 1897.

Are you claiming that average SAT score for whites in non-FARMs in all MCPS schools is around 1900? I will appreciate if you can provide some links.


Ok, here, page 8: http://montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/sharedaccountability/reports/2017/1771102HS%20Princ_SAT%20Partic_Perf%20Class%20of%202017.pdf

They use new SAT scoring now. At every school in the county, the SAT scores of the white kids are within 100 points of the white kid average of 1223. So the entire range of white kids' averages is 1100-1300. This is otherwise known as about the increase associated with having taken a test prep course. So, I wouldn't use SAT scores as the reason why you should buy a $1.5 million house instead of a $500k house.


Thanks for clearing that up.
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