Trump DOJ to prosecute universities for anti-white affirmative action policies

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OK, so you're saying the reason the Jews are so much more successful than blacks is because there is more prejudice against blacks. You seem unable to acknowledge that it has much to do with the Jews' emphasis on education and the value they place on strong family units. That's because that would place some of the responsibility on blacks themselves, which is a much-needed step to advancement.

Because African-Americans don't value family or education?

<= There aren't enough of either of these to express my WTF on this.

Doesn't seem to be as much as Jews do. Otherwise, there wouldn't be so many out-of-wedlock births and absentee fathers.

Blacks suffered from lacking a historical, cultural, ethnic, and racial moorings. They have no link or connection to anything about Africa. They were just caught in a situation they have no clue about. So they have no pride, no focal point around which to revive. Its the same thing that happened to native Americans who are literally wiped out.

How can the dads be at home when they are not out in jail for minor drug offenses and once you have a record you are dooomed. The blacks don't have money to get a good lawyer to fight their case. They do a plea bargain not realizing that will screw them for life. A white jury gives them much harder punishment than the community service they dole out to whites. Blacks are stuck in a no win situation by the system.

Jews are no where as badly screwed by the systemic injustice.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm not one of those insecure Negroes that harbors hatred or resentment for white folks for their privilege or my plight. I'm not the type to cling to negative sentiments or allow such thoughts to permeate my peace of mind. I know that blacks have been thru hell and I know that many blacks are still mired in hellish conditions to this day - sadly sometimes their problems and predicaments are self-imposed.

But I also know that blacks are still here still advancing and achieving and aspiring and attaining. I know that all efforts to keep blacks down permanently have failed and I know that all obstacles and barriers to hold blacks back ultimately were and will be overcome.

So having said all that, basically the point I'm trying to make is that no matter what negative caricature of the Negro it is that some may have etched in their brains that they base opinions and generalizations of all black people on - whether it be the ghetto thug or the single parent or whatever - that's not going to deter black people nor will it ultimately define black people.

I may be in the minority on this but despite all the prejudiced presumptions people make I see millions of blacks who are respected educators and remarkable innovators and capable leaders and constant achievers. If some can't see this vast segment of society or aren't inclined to give any credibility to the existence of educated or successful black people then that's their choice - but Affirmative Action or not I guarantee you that segment of educated and successful black people will persevere and prevail and proliferate. That's what blacks have always done.

I'm white and agree with what you've posted, but why are you using the outdated "Negro" term in some places and the currently used "black" in others? Clearly you're implying something with the distinction. Would you enlighten me?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why should a black student who has a 3.3 gpa, 1200 sat and who comes from an upper middle class background and has good extracurriculars get into better schools than a white middle class student with a 3.6 gpa, 1300 sat and good extracurriculars? This is reality to many Affirmative action should be on family income not race.

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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm not one of those insecure Negroes that harbors hatred or resentment for white folks for their privilege or my plight. I'm not the type to cling to negative sentiments or allow such thoughts to permeate my peace of mind. I know that blacks have been thru hell and I know that many blacks are still mired in hellish conditions to this day - sadly sometimes their problems and predicaments are self-imposed.

But I also know that blacks are still here still advancing and achieving and aspiring and attaining. I know that all efforts to keep blacks down permanently have failed and I know that all obstacles and barriers to hold blacks back ultimately were and will be overcome.

So having said all that, basically the point I'm trying to make is that no matter what negative caricature of the Negro it is that some may have etched in their brains that they base opinions and generalizations of all black people on - whether it be the ghetto thug or the single parent or whatever - that's not going to deter black people nor will it ultimately define black people.

I may be in the minority on this but despite all the prejudiced presumptions people make I see millions of blacks who are respected educators and remarkable innovators and capable leaders and constant achievers. If some can't see this vast segment of society or aren't inclined to give any credibility to the existence of educated or successful black people then that's their choice - but Affirmative Action or not I guarantee you that segment of educated and successful black people will persevere and prevail and proliferate. That's what blacks have always done.

Well, I'm in the minority with you.

I actually think people who consider themselves educated but still hang on to the idea that some aren't deserving of an education are in their own minority, or will be soon.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This thread has meandered all over the place. To get back to AA policies, I say that blacks from HHI of $100,000+ should get no "points" for being black in terms of college admissions. If a poor white has better grades and scores, then he should get the leg up - and the slot. Fair?

We can talk about fair when you stop assuming that a black student of any income level only gets admitted because they're black. Can't shake the feeling you believe a poor white kid will always have better scores than a black kid from a wealthy home.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This thread has meandered all over the place. To get back to AA policies, I say that blacks from HHI of $100,000+ should get no "points" for being black in terms of college admissions. If a poor white has better grades and scores, then he should get the leg up - and the slot. Fair?

Who says he doesn't already? Give me stats to prove the poor white never gets the "slot."

And why is it always a black candidate taking a white candidate's place in these narratives? What about the white candidates with lower test scores who take the slots of white candidates with higher test scores?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm not one of those insecure Negroes that harbors hatred or resentment for white folks for their privilege or my plight. I'm not the type to cling to negative sentiments or allow such thoughts to permeate my peace of mind. I know that blacks have been thru hell and I know that many blacks are still mired in hellish conditions to this day - sadly sometimes their problems and predicaments are self-imposed.

But I also know that blacks are still here still advancing and achieving and aspiring and attaining. I know that all efforts to keep blacks down permanently have failed and I know that all obstacles and barriers to hold blacks back ultimately were and will be overcome.

So having said all that, basically the point I'm trying to make is that no matter what negative caricature of the Negro it is that some may have etched in their brains that they base opinions and generalizations of all black people on - whether it be the ghetto thug or the single parent or whatever - that's not going to deter black people nor will it ultimately define black people.

I may be in the minority on this but despite all the prejudiced presumptions people make I see millions of blacks who are respected educators and remarkable innovators and capable leaders and constant achievers. If some can't see this vast segment of society or aren't inclined to give any credibility to the existence of educated or successful black people then that's their choice - but Affirmative Action or not I guarantee you that segment of educated and successful black people will persevere and prevail and proliferate. That's what blacks have always done.

I'm white and agree with what you've posted, but why are you using the outdated "Negro" term in some places and the currently used "black" in others? Clearly you're implying something with the distinction. Would you enlighten me?

There are many perceptions and presumptions that were essentially forced upon black people. The term Negro embodies many of those negative stereotypical portrayals. The term black on the other hand was embraced and entirely redefined by blacks themselves and it emphasized a more positive portrayal of blacks thus combating those old stereotypes (see: Black Pride). In my comment I used the term Negro twice - the first time was to clarify (or implicate as you say) that I, personally, am not one of those stereotypical negative portrayals and the second time was to clarify (or implicate as you say) the ignorance and outdatedness of such stereotypical negative portrayals.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm not one of those insecure Negroes that harbors hatred or resentment for white folks for their privilege or my plight. I'm not the type to cling to negative sentiments or allow such thoughts to permeate my peace of mind. I know that blacks have been thru hell and I know that many blacks are still mired in hellish conditions to this day - sadly sometimes their problems and predicaments are self-imposed.

But I also know that blacks are still here still advancing and achieving and aspiring and attaining. I know that all efforts to keep blacks down permanently have failed and I know that all obstacles and barriers to hold blacks back ultimately were and will be overcome.

So having said all that, basically the point I'm trying to make is that no matter what negative caricature of the Negro it is that some may have etched in their brains that they base opinions and generalizations of all black people on - whether it be the ghetto thug or the single parent or whatever - that's not going to deter black people nor will it ultimately define black people.

I may be in the minority on this but despite all the prejudiced presumptions people make I see millions of blacks who are respected educators and remarkable innovators and capable leaders and constant achievers. If some can't see this vast segment of society or aren't inclined to give any credibility to the existence of educated or successful black people then that's their choice - but Affirmative Action or not I guarantee you that segment of educated and successful black people will persevere and prevail and proliferate. That's what blacks have always done.

I'm white and agree with what you've posted, but why are you using the outdated "Negro" term in some places and the currently used "black" in others? Clearly you're implying something with the distinction. Would you enlighten me?

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I'm not the PP, but if a policy discussion arguments are going to made with stereotypes commonly used 100 years ago, "negro" is a contemporary term appropriately used.

[Anonymous]

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You are good at making assumptions. I don't have to be black to make a case for Affirmative Action. Holocaust is bad but not nearly as bad as slavery which went on for centuries and killed millions of blacks and deprived them the very humanity you take for granted. It is much much worse than Holocaust. No one said everything is someone else's fault. But slavery, jim crow, cop shooting of unarmed blacks, harsh criminal justice reserved for minor black crimes are all on the hands of systemic racism.

oh

Here we go again. Let's see whose history is worse - descendants of slaves or descendants of the Holocaust.

lynchings
gas chambers
rapes
brutal force
starvation
child labor
breaking families apart

You must be very competitive, PP. but for all the wrong reasons . . .

Um and how many rapes, murders, and robberies have blacks committed against whites? They commute violent crimes against white demonstrators FAR more frequently than whites against blacks. So we should reward them?

Well, if we're trying to keep score, AAs have a long way to catch up. Look out, whitey.

Are you nuts? We are talking about CRIMES. Not things that were perfectly legal at the time (slavery).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

You are good at making assumptions. I don't have to be black to make a case for Affirmative Action. Holocaust is bad but not nearly as bad as slavery which went on for centuries and killed millions of blacks and deprived them the very humanity you take for granted. It is much much worse than Holocaust. No one said everything is someone else's fault. But slavery, jim crow, cop shooting of unarmed blacks, harsh criminal justice reserved for minor black crimes are all on the hands of systemic racism.

oh

Here we go again. Let's see whose history is worse - descendants of slaves or descendants of the Holocaust.

lynchings
gas chambers
rapes
brutal force
starvation
child labor
breaking families apart

You must be very competitive, PP. but for all the wrong reasons . . .

Um and how many rapes, murders, and robberies have blacks committed against whites? They commute violent crimes against white demonstrators FAR more frequently than whites against blacks. So we should reward them?

Well, if we're trying to keep score, AAs have a long way to catch up. Look out, whitey.

Are you nuts? We are talking about CRIMES. Not things that were perfectly legal at the time (slavery).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This thread has meandered all over the place. To get back to AA policies, I say that blacks from HHI of $100,000+ should get no "points" for being black in terms of college admissions. If a poor white has better grades and scores, then he should get the leg up - and the slot. Fair?

We can talk about fair when you stop assuming that a black student of any income level only gets admitted because they're black. Can't shake the feeling you believe a poor white kid will always have better scores than a black kid from a wealthy home.

You sure project a lot. I never IF a poor white has better grades than a middle-class black.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm not one of those insecure Negroes that harbors hatred or resentment for white folks for their privilege or my plight. I'm not the type to cling to negative sentiments or allow such thoughts to permeate my peace of mind. I know that blacks have been thru hell and I know that many blacks are still mired in hellish conditions to this day - sadly sometimes their problems and predicaments are self-imposed.

But I also know that blacks are still here still advancing and achieving and aspiring and attaining. I know that all efforts to keep blacks down permanently have failed and I know that all obstacles and barriers to hold blacks back ultimately were and will be overcome.

So having said all that, basically the point I'm trying to make is that no matter what negative caricature of the Negro it is that some may have etched in their brains that they base opinions and generalizations of all black people on - whether it be the ghetto thug or the single parent or whatever - that's not going to deter black people nor will it ultimately define black people.

I may be in the minority on this but despite all the prejudiced presumptions people make I see millions of blacks who are respected educators and remarkable innovators and capable leaders and constant achievers. If some can't see this vast segment of society or aren't inclined to give any credibility to the existence of educated or successful black people then that's their choice - but Affirmative Action or not I guarantee you that segment of educated and successful black people will persevere and prevail and proliferate. That's what blacks have always done.

I'm white and agree with what you've posted, but why are you using the outdated "Negro" term in some places and the currently used "black" in others? Clearly you're implying something with the distinction. Would you enlighten me?

There are many perceptions and presumptions that were essentially forced upon black people. The term Negro embodies many of those negative stereotypical portrayals. The term black on the other hand was embraced and entirely redefined by blacks themselves and it emphasized a more positive portrayal of blacks thus combating those old stereotypes (see: Black Pride). In my comment I used the term Negro twice - the first time was to clarify (or implicate as you say) that I, personally, am not one of those stereotypical negative portrayals and the second time was to clarify (or implicate as you say) the ignorance and outdatedness of such stereotypical negative portrayals.

Ah, I see. That does make sense. Thanks.

[Anonymous]

Jews aren't the paragons of virtue when it comes to bastardry. Way more illegitimacy, single moms, etc in Jewish community compared to japan or South Korea for example

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

You are good at making assumptions. I don't have to be black to make a case for Affirmative Action. Holocaust is bad but not nearly as bad as slavery which went on for centuries and killed millions of blacks and deprived them the very humanity you take for granted. It is much much worse than Holocaust. No one said everything is someone else's fault. But slavery, jim crow, cop shooting of unarmed blacks, harsh criminal justice reserved for minor black crimes are all on the hands of systemic racism.

oh

Here we go again. Let's see whose history is worse - descendants of slaves or descendants of the Holocaust.

lynchings
gas chambers
rapes
brutal force
starvation
child labor
breaking families apart

You must be very competitive, PP. but for all the wrong reasons . . .

Um and how many rapes, murders, and robberies have blacks committed against whites? They commute violent crimes against white demonstrators FAR more frequently than whites against blacks. So we should reward them?

Well, if we're trying to keep score, AAs have a long way to catch up. Look out, whitey.

Are you nuts? We are talking about CRIMES. Not things that were perfectly legal at the time (slavery).

Well there you have it. Slavery doesn't count as a crime committed by whites against blacks because it was "perfectly legal at the time".

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

You are good at making assumptions. I don't have to be black to make a case for Affirmative Action. Holocaust is bad but not nearly as bad as slavery which went on for centuries and killed millions of blacks and deprived them the very humanity you take for granted. It is much much worse than Holocaust. No one said everything is someone else's fault. But slavery, jim crow, cop shooting of unarmed blacks, harsh criminal justice reserved for minor black crimes are all on the hands of systemic racism.

oh

Here we go again. Let's see whose history is worse - descendants of slaves or descendants of the Holocaust.

lynchings
gas chambers
rapes
brutal force
starvation
child labor
breaking families apart

You must be very competitive, PP. but for all the wrong reasons . . .

Um and how many rapes, murders, and robberies have blacks committed against whites? They commute violent crimes against white demonstrators FAR more frequently than whites against blacks. So we should reward them?

Well, if we're trying to keep score, AAs have a long way to catch up. Look out, whitey.

Most AAs have slaveowner ancestry as well. This is something that many AAs seem to conveniently forget about whenever they can beat white people over the head about slavery.