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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m fascinated more by the fact that M&D and Hero’s have so few players on D1 championship teams.

There are 100s of teams that send girls to D1, it’s not surprising at all when you only pick 4 years. Plenty of m&d all americans this year, not many from
Heros, but that will change over the next couple of years.

It was a five year look back (not four). And sorry but it is surprising -- M&D and Hero's consistently rank as the nation's top high school club teams yet they aren't sending players to teams that win it all. One from Hero's over five years? Just four from M&D? Those numbers should be way higher. What happened?

One, those numbers are wrong, and two, it’s just the cycle of success. Sometimes maryland players dominate a class or two and commit to eventual winners, and others are classes that are relatively poor compared to other years. Also, teams like BC and NW have been super successful lately, and they are just schools that rarely recruit MD players. BC is almost exclusively NE and LI, and NW is a true national recruiting power who pulls kids in from all over. It will come back around, the MD players from recent classes are super strong.

[Anonymous]

It appears looking back that people started trashing HOCO, their players, coaches, and families. Looks like some of them started sticking up for themselves after other larger clubs were saying things like (I’m paraphrasing) “you might be good now but come middle school you’ll break up and go to M&D or Hero’s”.
HOCO didn’t just come on here and start berating the larger clubs.
Take a breath.
~ another smaller club

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m fascinated more by the fact that M&D and Hero’s have so few players on D1 championship teams.

There are 100s of teams that send girls to D1, it’s not surprising at all when you only pick 4 years. Plenty of m&d all americans this year, not many from
Heros, but that will change over the next couple of years.

It was a five year look back (not four). And sorry but it is surprising -- M&D and Hero's consistently rank as the nation's top high school club teams yet they aren't sending players to teams that win it all. One from Hero's over five years? Just four from M&D? Those numbers should be way higher. What happened?

One, those numbers are wrong, and two, it’s just the cycle of success. Sometimes maryland players dominate a class or two and commit to eventual winners, and others are classes that are relatively poor compared to other years. Also, teams like BC and NW have been super successful lately, and they are just schools that rarely recruit MD players. BC is almost exclusively NE and LI, and NW is a true national recruiting power who pulls kids in from all over. It will come back around, the MD players from recent classes are super strong.

The numbers stand and are correct. Why? Because I went though every roster of every national championship team over the past five years and found out where those players played club. I did the homework. You didn’t.

And it’s not just “a cycle or two” - it’s five years of data. Easy to say “it will come around” but the trend isn’t trending, just like your math isn’t mathing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m fascinated more by the fact that M&D and Hero’s have so few players on D1 championship teams.

There are 100s of teams that send girls to D1, it’s not surprising at all when you only pick 4 years. Plenty of m&d all americans this year, not many from
Heros, but that will change over the next couple of years.

It was a five year look back (not four). And sorry but it is surprising -- M&D and Hero's consistently rank as the nation's top high school club teams yet they aren't sending players to teams that win it all. One from Hero's over five years? Just four from M&D? Those numbers should be way higher. What happened?

One, those numbers are wrong, and two, it’s just the cycle of success. Sometimes maryland players dominate a class or two and commit to eventual winners, and others are classes that are relatively poor compared to other years. Also, teams like BC and NW have been super successful lately, and they are just schools that rarely recruit MD players. BC is almost exclusively NE and LI, and NW is a true national recruiting power who pulls kids in from all over. It will come back around, the MD players from recent classes are super strong.

The numbers stand and are correct. Why? Because I went though every roster of every national championship team over the past five years and found out where those players played club. I did the homework. You didn’t.

And it’s not just “a cycle or two” - it’s five years of data. Easy to say “it will come around” but the trend isn’t trending, just like your math isn’t mathing.

Why aren't Godine & Levy both listed for M&D Black and do you think that's the only number that's wrong?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m fascinated more by the fact that M&D and Hero’s have so few players on D1 championship teams.

There are 100s of teams that send girls to D1, it’s not surprising at all when you only pick 4 years. Plenty of m&d all americans this year, not many from
Heros, but that will change over the next couple of years.

It was a five year look back (not four). And sorry but it is surprising -- M&D and Hero's consistently rank as the nation's top high school club teams yet they aren't sending players to teams that win it all. One from Hero's over five years? Just four from M&D? Those numbers should be way higher. What happened?

One, those numbers are wrong, and two, it’s just the cycle of success. Sometimes maryland players dominate a class or two and commit to eventual winners, and others are classes that are relatively poor compared to other years. Also, teams like BC and NW have been super successful lately, and they are just schools that rarely recruit MD players. BC is almost exclusively NE and LI, and NW is a true national recruiting power who pulls kids in from all over. It will come back around, the MD players from recent classes are super strong.

The numbers stand and are correct. Why? Because I went though every roster of every national championship team over the past five years and found out where those players played club. I did the homework. You didn’t.

And it’s not just “a cycle or two” - it’s five years of data. Easy to say “it will come around” but the trend isn’t trending, just like your math isn’t mathing.

Why aren't Godine & Levy both listed for M&D Black and do you think that's the only number that's wrong?

Lol, exactly.

Teams that have been knocking on the door for a natty have loaded up on M&D and Heros players. Clemson, Florida, and Maryland have loaded up on kids from those clubs, there is a chance that one of those teams wins in the near future, and then one could say that it came around

[Anonymous]

Godine was counted. Levy was not (an out of town fly in). Bit let’s include Levy, which puts M&D with six players over the past five years. Still dreadful.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m fascinated more by the fact that M&D and Hero’s have so few players on D1 championship teams.

There are 100s of teams that send girls to D1, it’s not surprising at all when you only pick 4 years. Plenty of m&d all americans this year, not many from
Heros, but that will change over the next couple of years.

It was a five year look back (not four). And sorry but it is surprising -- M&D and Hero's consistently rank as the nation's top high school club teams yet they aren't sending players to teams that win it all. One from Hero's over five years? Just four from M&D? Those numbers should be way higher. What happened?

One, those numbers are wrong, and two, it’s just the cycle of success. Sometimes maryland players dominate a class or two and commit to eventual winners, and others are classes that are relatively poor compared to other years. Also, teams like BC and NW have been super successful lately, and they are just schools that rarely recruit MD players. BC is almost exclusively NE and LI, and NW is a true national recruiting power who pulls kids in from all over. It will come back around, the MD players from recent classes are super strong.

The numbers stand and are correct. Why? Because I went though every roster of every national championship team over the past five years and found out where those players played club. I did the homework. You didn’t.

And it’s not just “a cycle or two” - it’s five years of data. Easy to say “it will come around” but the trend isn’t trending, just like your math isn’t mathing.

Why aren't Godine & Levy both listed for M&D Black and do you think that's the only number that's wrong?

Lol, exactly.

Teams that have been knocking on the door for a natty have loaded up on M&D and Heros players. Clemson, Florida, and Maryland have loaded up on kids from those clubs, there is a chance that one of those teams wins in the near future, and then one could say that it came around

Chance, could, maybe vs haven’t, couldn’t, didn’t.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Godine was counted. Levy was not (an out of town fly in). Bit let’s include Levy, which puts M&D with six players over the past five years. Still dreadful.

Ok, thanks. Could you adjust all the other totals for all those teams and years where you made a personal decision not to include them, so we can see what the participation has been?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Godine was counted. Levy was not (an out of town fly in). Bit let’s include Levy, which puts M&D with six players over the past five years. Still dreadful.

Ok, thanks. Could you adjust all the other totals for all those teams and years where you made a personal decision not to include them, so we can see what the participation has been?

Well I think people would prefer the facts to win the day. So with that one correction (thank you) the stats are these — and still paint a very clear picture:

NW 2026
Skywalkers 3
M&D 0
Capital 1
Hero's 0

UNC 2025
Skywalkers 1
M&D 2
Capital 1
Hero's 0

BC 2024
Skywalkers 0
M&D 2
Capital 1
Hero's 0

NW 2023
Skywalkers 1
M&D 0
Capital 0
Hero's 0

UNC 2022
Skywalkers 7
M&D 1
Capital 1
Hero’s 1

Total number of players on national championship teams over past 5 years:
Skywalkers = 12
M&D = 5
Capital = 4
Hero's = 1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Godine was counted. Levy was not (an out of town fly in). Bit let’s include Levy, which puts M&D with six players over the past five years. Still dreadful.

Ok, thanks. Could you adjust all the other totals for all those teams and years where you made a personal decision not to include them, so we can see what the participation has been?

Well I think people would prefer the facts to win the day. So with that one correction (thank you) the stats are these — and still paint a very clear picture:

NW 2026
Skywalkers 3
M&D 0
Capital 1
Hero's 0

UNC 2025
Skywalkers 1
M&D 2
Capital 1
Hero's 0

BC 2024
Skywalkers 0
M&D 2
Capital 1
Hero's 0

NW 2023
Skywalkers 1
M&D 0
Capital 0
Hero's 0

UNC 2022
Skywalkers 7
M&D 1
Capital 1
Hero’s 1

Total number of players on national championship teams over past 5 years:
Skywalkers = 12
M&D = 5
Capital = 4
Hero's = 1

Ok, so you had a correction pointed out to you, and wouldn't bother to check through any of the other years. Putting the onus on others to factcheck. I think I know what this is and where to file it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Godine was counted. Levy was not (an out of town fly in). Bit let’s include Levy, which puts M&D with six players over the past five years. Still dreadful.

Ok, thanks. Could you adjust all the other totals for all those teams and years where you made a personal decision not to include them, so we can see what the participation has been?

Well I think people would prefer the facts to win the day. So with that one correction (thank you) the stats are these — and still paint a very clear picture:

NW 2026
Skywalkers 3
M&D 0
Capital 1
Hero's 0

UNC 2025
Skywalkers 1
M&D 2
Capital 1
Hero's 0

BC 2024
Skywalkers 0
M&D 2
Capital 1
Hero's 0

NW 2023
Skywalkers 1
M&D 0
Capital 0
Hero's 0

UNC 2022
Skywalkers 7
M&D 1
Capital 1
Hero’s 1

Total number of players on national championship teams over past 5 years:
Skywalkers = 12
M&D = 5
Capital = 4
Hero's = 1

Ok, so you had a correction pointed out to you, and wouldn't bother to check through any of the other years. Putting the onus on others to factcheck. I think I know what this is and where to file it.

When only one correction was noted from five years of history, readers here are more likely to trust these stats than your conjecture.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Godine was counted. Levy was not (an out of town fly in). Bit let’s include Levy, which puts M&D with six players over the past five years. Still dreadful.

Ok, thanks. Could you adjust all the other totals for all those teams and years where you made a personal decision not to include them, so we can see what the participation has been?

Well I think people would prefer the facts to win the day. So with that one correction (thank you) the stats are these — and still paint a very clear picture:

NW 2026
Skywalkers 3
M&D 0
Capital 1
Hero's 0

UNC 2025
Skywalkers 1
M&D 2
Capital 1
Hero's 0

BC 2024
Skywalkers 0
M&D 2
Capital 1
Hero's 0

NW 2023
Skywalkers 1
M&D 0
Capital 0
Hero's 0

UNC 2022
Skywalkers 7
M&D 1
Capital 1
Hero’s 1

Total number of players on national championship teams over past 5 years:
Skywalkers = 12
M&D = 5
Capital = 4
Hero's = 1

Ok, so you had a correction pointed out to you, and wouldn't bother to check through any of the other years. Putting the onus on others to factcheck. I think I know what this is and where to file it.

Also worth noting: you originally misled readers to believe it was just four years of analysis (it was five) and that the one correction noted was a fly-in player who was not from the Baltimore area.

[Anonymous]

The next 5 national champs:

2019 Maryland 10 m&d and 7 heros
2018 JMU 1 m&d and 1 heros
2017 Maryland 11 m&d and 4 heros
2016 UNC zero
2015 Maryland 10 m&d and 1 heros

Cycles, man. And this is just a quick and dirty using the bios on the team websites and clubs aren’t listen for some, so the numbers might be higher. I’m not affiliated with either club, but I’ve been around long enough to see patterns, and some really strong young local players have a great opportunity to win titles in the near future. When there are m&d and heros alum on those teams, make sure to rerun your analysis.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The next 5 national champs:

2019 Maryland 10 m&d and 7 heros
2018 JMU 1 m&d and 1 heros
2017 Maryland 11 m&d and 4 heros
2016 UNC zero
2015 Maryland 10 m&d and 1 heros

Cycles, man. And this is just a quick and dirty using the bios on the team websites and clubs aren’t listen for some, so the numbers might be higher. I’m not affiliated with either club, but I’ve been around long enough to see patterns, and some really strong young local players have a great opportunity to win titles in the near future. When there are m&d and heros alum on those teams, make sure to rerun your analysis.

You’re legit pulling stats from 11 years ago

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Godine was counted. Levy was not (an out of town fly in). Bit let’s include Levy, which puts M&D with six players over the past five years. Still dreadful.

Ok, thanks. Could you adjust all the other totals for all those teams and years where you made a personal decision not to include them, so we can see what the participation has been?

Well I think people would prefer the facts to win the day. So with that one correction (thank you) the stats are these — and still paint a very clear picture:

NW 2026
Skywalkers 3
M&D 0
Capital 1
Hero's 0

UNC 2025
Skywalkers 1
M&D 2
Capital 1
Hero's 0

BC 2024
Skywalkers 0
M&D 2
Capital 1
Hero's 0

NW 2023
Skywalkers 1
M&D 0
Capital 0
Hero's 0

UNC 2022
Skywalkers 7
M&D 1
Capital 1
Hero’s 1

Total number of players on national championship teams over past 5 years:
Skywalkers = 12
M&D = 5
Capital = 4
Hero's = 1

Ok, so you had a correction pointed out to you, and wouldn't bother to check through any of the other years. Putting the onus on others to factcheck. I think I know what this is and where to file it.

Also worth noting: you originally misled readers to believe it was just four years of analysis (it was five) and that the one correction noted was a fly-in player who was not from the Baltimore area.

4 years -- that wasn't me, and never in the posts preceding the post you originally replied to or since in your "research" was there any mention by you or others about where someone lived early in high school (she played 2 years at McDonough, fwiw). Or fly ins. Should I quote the posts?

And no, I suspect most people tend to mistrust data gatherers if they have been shown to be... inaccurate... and on purpose. And I haven't thrown out any conjecture until the previous sentence.