Why did Arab majority Deerborn, Michigan go for Trump?

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Anonymous wrote:That's the outcome that is most perplexing to me. The explanation being given by the talking heads is that they were unhappy with the Biden administrations support of Israel. But they obviously realize that a Trump administration would be just as supportive of Israel. I would assume that they would go with the candidate who belongs to a party that has a significant faction of people opposed to supporting Israel, which is non-existent in the Republican party. Can anyone help me make sense of this?

Protest vote. She could have met with them in a small group if she didn't want to be cornered. But they were not going to hear anything from her that they have not already heard: "stand with Israel but stop humanitarian crisis in region....blah blah blah"

There is no such thing as a protest vote and that’s what most of this thread is saying.

That is FALSE. Do you want to speak to Dearborn MI residents who did just that???

They voted to make America worse. A vote for Stein was a vote for Trump. He will do nothing for Gaza, and he will make their lives harder here. They should have voted for Harris, then organized a campaign to sway her when she was in office.

Instead, they voted to endanger the lives of my children, take away my health insurance, and my mother’s SS and Medicare. My sympathy is dry.

I don’t think they’re alone by any stretch. I think a lot of left leaning voters were manipulated online to make them one issue voters in Gaza specifically to help Trump win. And unfortunately , it worked.

I do not think even this pointlessly maligned population were single-issue voters. But it’s pretty easy for you to withhold your cleary expansive sympathy when the Michigan strategy was: bring Bill Clinton into the state to say publicly “Jews were there first!” to get a roar and clapter, and to also fly in Richie Torres and Doug Emhoff.

If the convo is about Michigan, in some pretty arrogant ways, the Harris campaign told hesitant voters to eff themselves. And they told the campaign to go to hell.

Yeah Harris's messaging obviously wasn't effective!

I'm not sure why you're shouting at Dems now. We lost, badly - it's out of our hands what happens now. We didn't persuade these voters that we'd do more for them than Trump.

And now they get Trump. So - they voted, and they won.

And now they get Trump - and hopefully he'll keep all his promises.

This is what will lose that voting bloc for absolute ever to the Democratic Party. It’s enough. You’re just a B, and it’s visible from space. It’s like a more willful version - because we have history - of JFK permanently losing Cuban voters after Bay of Pigs.

I have the same fears you must have about future elections, Trump or Vance staying in office past 2028. You and your stupid, mean, power girl posse are incapable of coalition building or seeing that using rich celebrities for messaging can’t be the go to. So be it.

I am not sure why you are yelling at me as if I am the one who came up with the messaging for this particular group. Whoever was in charge of that - it didn't work. And now people are getting what they voted for. I can't change that by getting upset with them any more than you can by getting upset with me.

We didn't do this. They chose it. They *chose* it.

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Anonymous wrote:It is very short sighted to think that spending billions of dollars on a war to kill people will have no effect at home.

The democratic party learned a hard lesson.

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I guess we did. No Muslim ban protests this time, guess we were not good allies. But wishing the best of luck to the campus guys on taking their protests to the new admin.

You’re such a piece of sh!t, honestly.

Nope. Muslims did not care about the rest of us with this vote, this much is clear. So please do tell, why are we supposed to care about this now. And yes, the pro Palestine protests need to find their new target now. If they dare, under the new regime. But something tells me they will be quiet.

Well, now you know how they felt when they went to vote.

Oh, they told us. And they called us hysterical or something. I guess that hysteria was useful to them when we stood up for them during the Muslim ban, but not anymore. Leppard, faces etc. etc. They're on their own

You’re proving that Arab and Muslim Americans were only important as votes to you and the Harris campaign. Stop pretending you ever cared more than that about them.

Here's my question to you. Did Arabs and Muslims care about me as a woman? Yes or no?

Do you want to ask the ones that just, in large numbers, enthusiastically voted for divorced single mother of 2 Tlaib, or are they all to be treated like dog$h!t by you?

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Anonymous wrote:Biden didn’t even apologize for the death of the 6 year old Palestinian boy in Chicago who was stabbed to death 26 times as he was playing in his own apartment.

Biden and Harris can go to hell along with Netanyahu.

Well it's Gaza that's going to be blown to hell, so - well done!

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Anonymous wrote:It is very short sighted to think that spending billions of dollars on a war to kill people will have no effect at home.

The democratic party learned a hard lesson.

+1

I guess we did. No Muslim ban protests this time, guess we were not good allies. But wishing the best of luck to the campus guys on taking their protests to the new admin.

You’re such a piece of sh!t, honestly.

Nope. Muslims did not care about the rest of us with this vote, this much is clear. So please do tell, why are we supposed to care about this now. And yes, the pro Palestine protests need to find their new target now. If they dare, under the new regime. But something tells me they will be quiet.

Well, now you know how they felt when they went to vote.

Oh, they told us. And they called us hysterical or something. I guess that hysteria was useful to them when we stood up for them during the Muslim ban, but not anymore. Leppard, faces etc. etc. They're on their own

You’re proving that Arab and Muslim Americans were only important as votes to you and the Harris campaign. Stop pretending you ever cared more than that about them.

Here's my question to you. Did Arabs and Muslims care about me as a woman? Yes or no?

Do you want to ask the ones that just, in large numbers, enthusiastically voted for divorced single mother of 2 Tlaib, or are they all to be treated like dog$h!t by you?

Who are you angry with right now?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It is very short sighted to think that spending billions of dollars on a war to kill people will have no effect at home.

The democratic party learned a hard lesson.

+1

I guess we did. No Muslim ban protests this time, guess we were not good allies. But wishing the best of luck to the campus guys on taking their protests to the new admin.

You’re such a piece of sh!t, honestly.

Nope. Muslims did not care about the rest of us with this vote, this much is clear. So please do tell, why are we supposed to care about this now. And yes, the pro Palestine protests need to find their new target now. If they dare, under the new regime. But something tells me they will be quiet.

Well, now you know how they felt when they went to vote.

Oh, they told us. And they called us hysterical or something. I guess that hysteria was useful to them when we stood up for them during the Muslim ban, but not anymore. Leppard, faces etc. etc. They're on their own

You’re proving that Arab and Muslim Americans were only important as votes to you and the Harris campaign. Stop pretending you ever cared more than that about them.

Here's my question to you. Did Arabs and Muslims care about me as a woman? Yes or no?

Most Arabs and Muslims were the only ones supporting the other woman candidate in this election, Jill Stein. Jill Stein was welcomed on Al Jazeera America many times, as a Jewish leftist woman and Green Party candidate. She was never on MSNBC, CNN, Fox, Meet the Press, ABC.

Why should they care about you? They care about their wives and daughters not using the bathroom with men in dressed and wigs.

They care about their families not being burned with 6,000 degree phosphorus bombs by the Biden admin and the taxpayer.

If the choice is a ban or bombs, most people would choose immigration ban all day.

People want the wars to stop and stop fast, and there’s no confidence “Im Speaking Now” Harris or Jazz Hands Walz are ready for primetime

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Anonymous wrote:Biden didn’t even apologize for the death of the 6 year old Palestinian boy in Chicago who was stabbed to death 26 times as he was playing in his own apartment.

Biden and Harris can go to hell along with Netanyahu.

Well it's Gaza that's going to be blown to hell, so - well done!

It’s being blown up now so what’s the difference? You sound condescending and typical of why they don’t want leftists in charge. Imagine talking like this to Netanyahu on the phone.

We need someone who can leverage and force all parties to stop the war.

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Anonymous wrote:That's the outcome that is most perplexing to me. The explanation being given by the talking heads is that they were unhappy with the Biden administrations support of Israel. But they obviously realize that a Trump administration would be just as supportive of Israel. I would assume that they would go with the candidate who belongs to a party that has a significant faction of people opposed to supporting Israel, which is non-existent in the Republican party. Can anyone help me make sense of this?

Protest vote. She could have met with them in a small group if she didn't want to be cornered. But they were not going to hear anything from her that they have not already heard: "stand with Israel but stop humanitarian crisis in region....blah blah blah"

There is no such thing as a protest vote and that’s what most of this thread is saying.

That is FALSE. Do you want to speak to Dearborn MI residents who did just that???

They voted to make America worse. A vote for Stein was a vote for Trump. He will do nothing for Gaza, and he will make their lives harder here. They should have voted for Harris, then organized a campaign to sway her when she was in office.

Instead, they voted to endanger the lives of my children, take away my health insurance, and my mother’s SS and Medicare. My sympathy is dry.

I don’t think they’re alone by any stretch. I think a lot of left leaning voters were manipulated online to make them one issue voters in Gaza specifically to help Trump win. And unfortunately , it worked.

I do not think even this pointlessly maligned population were single-issue voters. But it’s pretty easy for you to withhold your cleary expansive sympathy when the Michigan strategy was: bring Bill Clinton into the state to say publicly “Jews were there first!” to get a roar and clapter, and to also fly in Richie Torres and Doug Emhoff.

If the convo is about Michigan, in some pretty arrogant ways, the Harris campaign told hesitant voters to eff themselves. And they told the campaign to go to hell.

Yeah Harris's messaging obviously wasn't effective!

I'm not sure why you're shouting at Dems now. We lost, badly - it's out of our hands what happens now. We didn't persuade these voters that we'd do more for them than Trump.

And now they get Trump. So - they voted, and they won.

And now they get Trump - and hopefully he'll keep all his promises.

This is what will lose that voting bloc for absolute ever to the Democratic Party. It’s enough. You’re just a B, and it’s visible from space. It’s like a more willful version - because we have history - of JFK permanently losing Cuban voters after Bay of Pigs.

I have the same fears you must have about future elections, Trump or Vance staying in office past 2028. You and your stupid, mean, power girl posse are incapable of coalition building or seeing that using rich celebrities for messaging can’t be the go to. So be it.

I am not sure why you are yelling at me as if I am the one who came up with the messaging for this particular group. Whoever was in charge of that - it didn't work. And now people are getting what they voted for. I can't change that by getting upset with them any more than you can by getting upset with me.

We didn't do this. They chose it. They *chose* it.

I’ll yell at you as you keep showing your ass, which is where your brain and soul seem to be located, all over this thread.

The messaging and policy failures were foreseeable, deliberate choices against a marginalized and desperate voting bloc so lay the F off of people who had no power in a situation and were told repeatedly by those HOLDING THE POWER and their busted-face handmaidens like you to eat sh!r and die - or just settle down, be grateful to be here, and watch their families die and keep quiet about Israel and the military spend. They felt they had no choice and that’s hard to argue as irrational by the body count. Your choice is objectively irrational to blame this population when the turnout was historically low. The 12 million voters who said no thanks to this campaign are not all in southern Michigan Muslims.

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Anonymous wrote:It is very short sighted to think that spending billions of dollars on a war to kill people will have no effect at home.

The democratic party learned a hard lesson.

+1

I guess we did. No Muslim ban protests this time, guess we were not good allies. But wishing the best of luck to the campus guys on taking their protests to the new admin.

You’re such a piece of sh!t, honestly.

Nope. Muslims did not care about the rest of us with this vote, this much is clear. So please do tell, why are we supposed to care about this now. And yes, the pro Palestine protests need to find their new target now. If they dare, under the new regime. But something tells me they will be quiet.

Well, now you know how they felt when they went to vote.

Oh, they told us. And they called us hysterical or something. I guess that hysteria was useful to them when we stood up for them during the Muslim ban, but not anymore. Leppard, faces etc. etc. They're on their own

You’re proving that Arab and Muslim Americans were only important as votes to you and the Harris campaign. Stop pretending you ever cared more than that about them.

Here's my question to you. Did Arabs and Muslims care about me as a woman? Yes or no?

Do you want to ask the ones that just, in large numbers, enthusiastically voted for divorced single mother of 2 Tlaib, or are they all to be treated like dog$h!t by you?

Who are you angry with right now?

You. You’re mean spirited and it’s disgusting.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is very short sighted to think that spending billions of dollars on a war to kill people will have no effect at home.

The democratic party learned a hard lesson.

+1

I guess we did. No Muslim ban protests this time, guess we were not good allies. But wishing the best of luck to the campus guys on taking their protests to the new admin.

You’re such a piece of sh!t, honestly.

Nope. Muslims did not care about the rest of us with this vote, this much is clear. So please do tell, why are we supposed to care about this now. And yes, the pro Palestine protests need to find their new target now. If they dare, under the new regime. But something tells me they will be quiet.

Well, now you know how they felt when they went to vote.

Oh, they told us. And they called us hysterical or something. I guess that hysteria was useful to them when we stood up for them during the Muslim ban, but not anymore. Leppard, faces etc. etc. They're on their own

You’re proving that Arab and Muslim Americans were only important as votes to you and the Harris campaign. Stop pretending you ever cared more than that about them.

Here's my question to you. Did Arabs and Muslims care about me as a woman? Yes or no?

Do you want to ask the ones that just, in large numbers, enthusiastically voted for divorced single mother of 2 Tlaib, or are they all to be treated like dog$h!t by you?

It's a yes or no question, PP.

Don't turn it around. They should be important to me, you are saying. Am I important to them?

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Harris was running around Michigan with pro Palestinian ads and allies while she sent Doug to the basement to hosti private Zoom meetings with Hasbara and AIPAC top brass. They are duplicitous liars who were never going to get a ceasefire because of the double speak.

When you tolerate everything, you stand for nothing

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is very short sighted to think that spending billions of dollars on a war to kill people will have no effect at home.

The democratic party learned a hard lesson.

+1

I guess we did. No Muslim ban protests this time, guess we were not good allies. But wishing the best of luck to the campus guys on taking their protests to the new admin.

You’re such a piece of sh!t, honestly.

Nope. Muslims did not care about the rest of us with this vote, this much is clear. So please do tell, why are we supposed to care about this now. And yes, the pro Palestine protests need to find their new target now. If they dare, under the new regime. But something tells me they will be quiet.

Well, now you know how they felt when they went to vote.

Oh, they told us. And they called us hysterical or something. I guess that hysteria was useful to them when we stood up for them during the Muslim ban, but not anymore. Leppard, faces etc. etc. They're on their own

You’re proving that Arab and Muslim Americans were only important as votes to you and the Harris campaign. Stop pretending you ever cared more than that about them.

Here's my question to you. Did Arabs and Muslims care about me as a woman? Yes or no?

Most Arabs and Muslims were the only ones supporting the other woman candidate in this election, Jill Stein. Jill Stein was welcomed on Al Jazeera America many times, as a Jewish leftist woman and Green Party candidate. She was never on MSNBC, CNN, Fox, Meet the Press, ABC.

Why should they care about you? They care about their wives and daughters not using the bathroom with men in dressed and wigs.

They care about their families not being burned with 6,000 degree phosphorus bombs by the Biden admin and the taxpayer.

If the choice is a ban or bombs, most people would choose immigration ban all day.

People want the wars to stop and stop fast, and there’s no confidence “Im Speaking Now” Harris or Jazz Hands Walz are ready for primetime

Jill Stein's VP pick came out agains abortion.

Did these voters care about me as a woman, here in America. Yes or no?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is very short sighted to think that spending billions of dollars on a war to kill people will have no effect at home.

The democratic party learned a hard lesson.

+1

I guess we did. No Muslim ban protests this time, guess we were not good allies. But wishing the best of luck to the campus guys on taking their protests to the new admin.

You’re such a piece of sh!t, honestly.

Nope. Muslims did not care about the rest of us with this vote, this much is clear. So please do tell, why are we supposed to care about this now. And yes, the pro Palestine protests need to find their new target now. If they dare, under the new regime. But something tells me they will be quiet.

Well, now you know how they felt when they went to vote.

Oh, they told us. And they called us hysterical or something. I guess that hysteria was useful to them when we stood up for them during the Muslim ban, but not anymore. Leppard, faces etc. etc. They're on their own

You’re proving that Arab and Muslim Americans were only important as votes to you and the Harris campaign. Stop pretending you ever cared more than that about them.

Here's my question to you. Did Arabs and Muslims care about me as a woman? Yes or no?

Do you want to ask the ones that just, in large numbers, enthusiastically voted for divorced single mother of 2 Tlaib, or are they all to be treated like dog$h!t by you?

It's a yes or no question, PP.

Don't turn it around. They should be important to me, you are saying. Am I important to them?

I answered it, idiot.

[Anonymous]

Why is nobody blaming the Jewish vote in Florida and Pennsylvania and Michigan that also helped trump?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is very short sighted to think that spending billions of dollars on a war to kill people will have no effect at home.

The democratic party learned a hard lesson.

+1

I guess we did. No Muslim ban protests this time, guess we were not good allies. But wishing the best of luck to the campus guys on taking their protests to the new admin.

You’re such a piece of sh!t, honestly.

Nope. Muslims did not care about the rest of us with this vote, this much is clear. So please do tell, why are we supposed to care about this now. And yes, the pro Palestine protests need to find their new target now. If they dare, under the new regime. But something tells me they will be quiet.

Well, now you know how they felt when they went to vote.

Oh, they told us. And they called us hysterical or something. I guess that hysteria was useful to them when we stood up for them during the Muslim ban, but not anymore. Leppard, faces etc. etc. They're on their own

You’re proving that Arab and Muslim Americans were only important as votes to you and the Harris campaign. Stop pretending you ever cared more than that about them.

Here's my question to you. Did Arabs and Muslims care about me as a woman? Yes or no?

Do you want to ask the ones that just, in large numbers, enthusiastically voted for divorced single mother of 2 Tlaib, or are they all to be treated like dog$h!t by you?

Who are you angry with right now?

You. You’re mean spirited and it’s disgusting.

DP. You voted for the guy who called us the enemy with in. Miss me with the mean spirited stuff.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why is nobody blaming the Jewish vote in Florida and Pennsylvania and Michigan that also helped trump?

We can’t! We can’t go blaming Emhoff and Torres or individuals from the good religion.