MCPS is no longer a desirable school district

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Well the violence and the cover ups were all over the news a back in 2018 the cour cases came a couple years later showing that admin refrained from doing their jobs as mandatory reporter. Mcps paid out millions to the kids assaulted. Many teachers reported violence with no support. Some teachers were probably considered turds in the punchbowl for opening up about this epidemic. Oh yeah, and admin benefitted from this incompetence like Crouse getting promoted after her students got the broom hazing. Sometimes i think mcps pr team chooses to forget like they choose to make teachers intimidated to do their jobs as reporters.

Can you provide any concrete examples with actual news sources?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We moved from a smaller but wealthier school district. It was wealthy but couldn't provide gifted programs because it didn't have enough gifted students.

DC was in the magnet programs in MCPS. Grateful for that. My other DC is not in any magnet program but they have the option to take a variety of AP classes.

Having stated that, I do think MCPS doesn't focus enough on academics and instead pays too much attention to non academic programs. Grade inflation is not helping these kids, and neither is the little to no HW policy, especially for math.

I'm also tired of all the scandals and safety issues that MCPS can't seem to deal with, most likely because they don't want to appear racist, but they don't seem to realize that most of the issues impact minority students the most.

I will be happy to be done with mcps in two years. I have seen it go downhill fast in the past 12 years.

That's so weird. My kids education from MCPS today seems 1000x better than mine 30 years ago.

Honest question. How is it better?

They study far more advanced subjects and are reading and writing at much higher level than was common back then. This may not be everyone's experience but my point is amazing opportunities exist for anyone who is interested.

Amazing opportunities only exist for a small handful of kids...not the masses

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We moved from a smaller but wealthier school district. It was wealthy but couldn't provide gifted programs because it didn't have enough gifted students.

DC was in the magnet programs in MCPS. Grateful for that. My other DC is not in any magnet program but they have the option to take a variety of AP classes.

Having stated that, I do think MCPS doesn't focus enough on academics and instead pays too much attention to non academic programs. Grade inflation is not helping these kids, and neither is the little to no HW policy, especially for math.

I'm also tired of all the scandals and safety issues that MCPS can't seem to deal with, most likely because they don't want to appear racist, but they don't seem to realize that most of the issues impact minority students the most.

I will be happy to be done with mcps in two years. I have seen it go downhill fast in the past 12 years.

That's so weird. My kids education from MCPS today seems 1000x better than mine 30 years ago.

Honest question. How is it better?

They study far more advanced subjects and are reading and writing at much higher level than was common back then. This may not be everyone's experience but my point is amazing opportunities exist for anyone who is interested.

Amazing opportunities only exist for a small handful of kids...not the masses

This isn’t true. Every school offers some selection of AP courses. There are CTE courses available at schools. There are 4 IB programs, magnet programs, and choice special programs. Any student can apply to all of these. There are clubs and activities.

There is PTAs and various coalitions that parents can get involved with.

Opportunity exist for those that seek and want it.

[Anonymous]

it is too academic if you ask me. Kids are only being geared to go to college.

I went to HS a very long time ago in a very top rated HS.

But I went to a cooking class, blue print reading, auto shop, welding, woodworking, metal working, drivers ed, small engine repair, carpentry class, swimming class.

I graduated HS and I could drive, do carpentry, welding, fix a car, cook, repair my lawnmower do electrical work. etc.

I went to college but the IEP kids etc if they showed some gifts in the trades we had a special HS for them to work on that and they did not go to college.

Today kids graduate no skills other than being able to go to college.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:it is too academic if you ask me. Kids are only being geared to go to college.

I went to HS a very long time ago in a very top rated HS.

But I went to a cooking class, blue print reading, auto shop, welding, woodworking, metal working, drivers ed, small engine repair, carpentry class, swimming class.

I graduated HS and I could drive, do carpentry, welding, fix a car, cook, repair my lawnmower do electrical work. etc.

I went to college but the IEP kids etc if they showed some gifts in the trades we had a special HS for them to work on that and they did not go to college.

Today kids graduate no skills other than being able to go to college.

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[Anonymous]

Put some key words in the google and it magically will show nees articles. Amazing isnt it

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:it is too academic if you ask me. Kids are only being geared to go to college.

I went to HS a very long time ago in a very top rated HS.

But I went to a cooking class, blue print reading, auto shop, welding, woodworking, metal working, drivers ed, small engine repair, carpentry class, swimming class.

I graduated HS and I could drive, do carpentry, welding, fix a car, cook, repair my lawnmower do electrical work. etc.

I went to college but the IEP kids etc if they showed some gifts in the trades we had a special HS for them to work on that and they did not go to college.

Today kids graduate no skills other than being able to go to college.

This is really surprising for HS. Even 30 years ago, there wasn't space in most HS students' schedules for all of this! Yes, driver's ed & behind the wheel were there.

In my experience in a semi-rural area, some of the things you mentioned were offered as semester long electives in middle school. And yes, I do think those should come back to our middle schools... woodworking, metal shoppe, cooking, etc.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We moved from a smaller but wealthier school district. It was wealthy but couldn't provide gifted programs because it didn't have enough gifted students.

DC was in the magnet programs in MCPS. Grateful for that. My other DC is not in any magnet program but they have the option to take a variety of AP classes.

Having stated that, I do think MCPS doesn't focus enough on academics and instead pays too much attention to non academic programs. Grade inflation is not helping these kids, and neither is the little to no HW policy, especially for math.

I'm also tired of all the scandals and safety issues that MCPS can't seem to deal with, most likely because they don't want to appear racist, but they don't seem to realize that most of the issues impact minority students the most.

I will be happy to be done with mcps in two years. I have seen it go downhill fast in the past 12 years.

That's so weird. My kids education from MCPS today seems 1000x better than mine 30 years ago.

Honest question. How is it better?

They study far more advanced subjects and are reading and writing at much higher level than was common back then. This may not be everyone's experience but my point is amazing opportunities exist for anyone who is interested.

Amazing opportunities only exist for a small handful of kids...not the masses

Our school stops math at calculus. The arts are basic. The amazing experiences we have are outside and we have to send our kids to college senior year because of the lack of classes. At some schools yes, others no.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:it is too academic if you ask me. Kids are only being geared to go to college.

I went to HS a very long time ago in a very top rated HS.

But I went to a cooking class, blue print reading, auto shop, welding, woodworking, metal working, drivers ed, small engine repair, carpentry class, swimming class.

I graduated HS and I could drive, do carpentry, welding, fix a car, cook, repair my lawnmower do electrical work. etc.

I went to college but the IEP kids etc if they showed some gifts in the trades we had a special HS for them to work on that and they did not go to college.

Today kids graduate no skills other than being able to go to college.

We have trades but most kids don’t choose it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Well the violence and the cover ups were all over the news a back in 2018 the cour cases came a couple years later showing that admin refrained from doing their jobs as mandatory reporter. Mcps paid out millions to the kids assaulted. Many teachers reported violence with no support. Some teachers were probably considered turds in the punchbowl for opening up about this epidemic. Oh yeah, and admin benefitted from this incompetence like Crouse getting promoted after her students got the broom hazing. Sometimes i think mcps pr team chooses to forget like they choose to make teachers intimidated to do their jobs as reporters.

Can you provide any concrete examples with actual news sources?

I think they are referring to this case:https://moco360.media/2020/07/08/in-lawsuit-former-gaithersburg-high-wrestler-says-he-was-sexually-assaulted-in-unsupervised-locker-room/

The article mentions how an administrator was provided with a video of the assault, but he did not notify the police.

Here is an article that mentions a settlement made by MCPS: https://moco360.media/2023/09/29/mcps-to-pay-9-7-million-to-settle-damascus-football-brooming-sex-assault-case/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Well the violence and the cover ups were all over the news a back in 2018 the cour cases came a couple years later showing that admin refrained from doing their jobs as mandatory reporter. Mcps paid out millions to the kids assaulted. Many teachers reported violence with no support. Some teachers were probably considered turds in the punchbowl for opening up about this epidemic. Oh yeah, and admin benefitted from this incompetence like Crouse getting promoted after her students got the broom hazing. Sometimes i think mcps pr team chooses to forget like they choose to make teachers intimidated to do their jobs as reporters.

That was not a promotion.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:it is too academic if you ask me. Kids are only being geared to go to college.

I went to HS a very long time ago in a very top rated HS.

But I went to a cooking class, blue print reading, auto shop, welding, woodworking, metal working, drivers ed, small engine repair, carpentry class, swimming class.

I graduated HS and I could drive, do carpentry, welding, fix a car, cook, repair my lawnmower do electrical work. etc.

I went to college but the IEP kids etc if they showed some gifts in the trades we had a special HS for them to work on that and they did not go to college.

Today kids graduate no skills other than being able to go to college.

There is a whole High School in MCPS dedicated to trade crafts.
There is opportunity for anyone who wants it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We moved from a smaller but wealthier school district. It was wealthy but couldn't provide gifted programs because it didn't have enough gifted students.

DC was in the magnet programs in MCPS. Grateful for that. My other DC is not in any magnet program but they have the option to take a variety of AP classes.

Having stated that, I do think MCPS doesn't focus enough on academics and instead pays too much attention to non academic programs. Grade inflation is not helping these kids, and neither is the little to no HW policy, especially for math.

I'm also tired of all the scandals and safety issues that MCPS can't seem to deal with, most likely because they don't want to appear racist, but they don't seem to realize that most of the issues impact minority students the most.

I will be happy to be done with mcps in two years. I have seen it go downhill fast in the past 12 years.

That's so weird. My kids education from MCPS today seems 1000x better than mine 30 years ago.

Honest question. How is it better?

They study far more advanced subjects and are reading and writing at much higher level than was common back then. This may not be everyone's experience but my point is amazing opportunities exist for anyone who is interested.

Amazing opportunities only exist for a small handful of kids...not the masses

If you need that sort of thing and you're interested, it's available.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:it is too academic if you ask me. Kids are only being geared to go to college.

I went to HS a very long time ago in a very top rated HS.

But I went to a cooking class, blue print reading, auto shop, welding, woodworking, metal working, drivers ed, small engine repair, carpentry class, swimming class.

I graduated HS and I could drive, do carpentry, welding, fix a car, cook, repair my lawnmower do electrical work. etc.

I went to college but the IEP kids etc if they showed some gifts in the trades we had a special HS for them to work on that and they did not go to college.

Today kids graduate no skills other than being able to go to college.

There is a whole High School in MCPS dedicated to trade crafts.
There is opportunity for anyone who wants it.

+1000

a lot of people just don't want to be bothered and will make 0 effort

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well the violence and the cover ups were all over the news a back in 2018 the cour cases came a couple years later showing that admin refrained from doing their jobs as mandatory reporter. Mcps paid out millions to the kids assaulted. Many teachers reported violence with no support. Some teachers were probably considered turds in the punchbowl for opening up about this epidemic. Oh yeah, and admin benefitted from this incompetence like Crouse getting promoted after her students got the broom hazing. Sometimes i think mcps pr team chooses to forget like they choose to make teachers intimidated to do their jobs as reporters.

Can you provide any concrete examples with actual news sources?

I think they are referring to this case:https://moco360.media/2020/07/08/in-lawsuit-former-gaithersburg-high-wrestler-says-he-was-sexually-assaulted-in-unsupervised-locker-room/

The article mentions how an administrator was provided with a video of the assault, but he did not notify the police.

Here is an article that mentions a settlement made by MCPS: https://moco360.media/2023/09/29/mcps-to-pay-9-7-million-to-settle-damascus-football-brooming-sex-assault-case/

That was many years ago and MCPS is a very large district. Things like that sadly are bound to happen from time to time.