Why don't you go make your own thread about opera singers. You're probably the same one talking about Ludicrous (sp). |
I don't think people think that - they like her voice, music and lyrics and persona all together. Her voice is relatable...people don't always want to listen to Mariah Carey types. And there are a ton of popular male singers who have just nice voices, and aren't, e.g., Josh Groban. |
Where has anyone said this? |
I feel like it's a psy op that this 34.5 year old woman remains this popular with this same blasé subject matter. This "new" material from a middle aged woman is so cringe, I'm sorry. How are people not tired of this recycled dating and breakup babble after 11 albums? It makes sense for teens and 20-something pop stars (see Olivia Rodrigo, age 21) to sing about dating and breakup subject matter, but at age 34.5 it is pure cringe. |
thats what I’ve been saying here too |
You’re undermining your point with the weird “34 and a half” thing |
The entire album is about Matty. I know I am in the minority, but I loved them together. They are so similar - tortured poets, musicians who enjoy their booze ![]() It’s such a tragic album really. It’s clear they both were hot for each other for a long time. They have the same producer and close friend, Jack Antonoff, who helped them stay in touch or reconnect. It is likely she left Joe who she was bored with to be with Matty. Then the fans went feral about Matty being “problematic” and also her tour had just started, so it was probably too much strain on him and the relationship. But yah, those two were pining for each other for over a decade (so many clues!) and would have made the cutest babies…unlike the current jock. The lyric “I would have died for your sins, instead I just died inside…” She was ready to stick by him regardless of public opinion and her dad’s advice (though was she really going to throw so much away?), but he was probably spooked and wanted out. |
I'm merely underscoring her literal age, which makes her far too old for this same arrested development dating and breakup babble. Yeah yeah it's making her a lot of money, so who cares. Okay, if it's just her being a shameless money grabber and trying to milk cash from her loyal fanatics, let's not pretend this cringy blasé material is so deep and profound. People are hyper-analyzing a 34.5 year old's dating life songs... come on. ![]() |
Or maybe it was all fake. Hollywood. |
+1 |
What's the point? |
I'm going to guess you're far older than than 34.5. You're also the type to say women of a certain age can't dress the way they want, wear their hair the way they want or do much of anything. Women policing other women and drawing arbitrary lines in the sand or inventing rules about what's allowed are the worst. |
Are you responding to the right person? |
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Agree with all of this. How many different relationships of hers has she referred to in her music as “a masterpiece,” something she’s “willing to die for” or “life would lose all its meaning” without? She’s 34 and every few months she’s torn up about another boy. Really? It is cringe. At this point, it’s like we’re on season 25 of Greys Anatomy. |