School Board Forum on "Boundary and Capacity"

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Anonymous wrote:Will the Langley bastion finally fall? I hope so. Rooting for this board.

Bitter much?

Gatehouse should make the best use of facilities, giving weight to efficiency and budget.
If the Langley boundaries change due to that then whatever.

The Langley boundaries may well need to change in a few years based on capacity and logistical issues, but if that happens they'll still claim it's being done to "punish" them. Hopefully with Robyn Lady representing the district rather than Elaine Tholen, decisions will be based on the merits and not just a desire to place Langley's interests over everyone else's.

“still?”
Where/when did Langley parents protest possible boundary changes with the argument that the school board wanted to punish them for something?

As to hoping the latest Dranesville rep will advocate for boundaries based on the merits of different options (which will apparently be demonstrated only if she wants to alter boundaries in a way that you desire)
—- I am old enough to remember all the crowing about Jane Strauss not being around to “protect” the Langley boundaries anymore after Elaine was elected, and we see how that worked out for people emotionally invested in some drastic change.

+100
There is no rational discussion to be had with the PP, who continues to rant about schools which her children don’t even attend. Interesting how she’ll never disclose where her kids actually do go to school.

+1. Her social engineering crusade is truly pathetic at this point. She is likely as insufferable in real life as she is on this forum.

Are you sock puppeting or do all these Langley posters sound EXACTLY the same?

I mean people will point out that changes should only be made, if at all, if needed based on capacity and logistics, and you'll still flail away about "social engineering."

Report the post and claim it’s a sock puppet post. It’s not, but you can see for yourself that I’m a DP when the admin doesn’t remove it. On the other hand, I’m quite certain that you are a one woman social engineering crusader.

Honest question - do you think "social engineering" means anything that might run counter to the wishes of a Langley family? Because there may be valid reasons to move kids in and out of Langley at some point that bear no resemblance to what "social engineering" generally is understood to connote.

Perhaps, but her posts are of one flavor - to soak the “rich” Forestville families. She’s got a real chip on her shoulder about it, especially since, as the board member recently pointed out, redistricting is bad for all involved, especially poor students. Her hatred of Forestville is just that great, that she’d be willing to hurt Herndon students to stick it to Forestville.

I am in favor of doing everything we can to improve schools, but it really feels like a paternalistic “savior” move to do what she advocates.

Except multiple posters have said Forestville should only move if there’s a compelling logistical need to move it and you keep claiming we’re all the same poster with a “social engineering” agenda. It’s just very odd.

Any suggestion that has a whiff of possibly affecting certain schools in certain ways is labeled social engineering around here — even before the renovations over the past few years occurred. It is sad. Just wait until next year when standards based grading is applied to all schools.

Agreed. It’s like some posters are only capable of a knee-jerk reaction or aren’t very familiar with the English language. If anything potentially interferes with their expectations, it’s “social engineering.”

What schools do your kids go to? Both of you PPs? We're still waiting.

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Anonymous wrote:Will the Langley bastion finally fall? I hope so. Rooting for this board.

Bitter much?

Gatehouse should make the best use of facilities, giving weight to efficiency and budget.
If the Langley boundaries change due to that then whatever.

The Langley boundaries may well need to change in a few years based on capacity and logistical issues, but if that happens they'll still claim it's being done to "punish" them. Hopefully with Robyn Lady representing the district rather than Elaine Tholen, decisions will be based on the merits and not just a desire to place Langley's interests over everyone else's.

“still?”
Where/when did Langley parents protest possible boundary changes with the argument that the school board wanted to punish them for something?

As to hoping the latest Dranesville rep will advocate for boundaries based on the merits of different options (which will apparently be demonstrated only if she wants to alter boundaries in a way that you desire)
—- I am old enough to remember all the crowing about Jane Strauss not being around to “protect” the Langley boundaries anymore after Elaine was elected, and we see how that worked out for people emotionally invested in some drastic change.

+100
There is no rational discussion to be had with the PP, who continues to rant about schools which her children don’t even attend. Interesting how she’ll never disclose where her kids actually do go to school.

+1. Her social engineering crusade is truly pathetic at this point. She is likely as insufferable in real life as she is on this forum.

Are you sock puppeting or do all these Langley posters sound EXACTLY the same?

I mean people will point out that changes should only be made, if at all, if needed based on capacity and logistics, and you'll still flail away about "social engineering."

Report the post and claim it’s a sock puppet post. It’s not, but you can see for yourself that I’m a DP when the admin doesn’t remove it. On the other hand, I’m quite certain that you are a one woman social engineering crusader.

Honest question - do you think "social engineering" means anything that might run counter to the wishes of a Langley family? Because there may be valid reasons to move kids in and out of Langley at some point that bear no resemblance to what "social engineering" generally is understood to connote.

Perhaps, but her posts are of one flavor - to soak the “rich” Forestville families. She’s got a real chip on her shoulder about it, especially since, as the board member recently pointed out, redistricting is bad for all involved, especially poor students. Her hatred of Forestville is just that great, that she’d be willing to hurt Herndon students to stick it to Forestville.

I am in favor of doing everything we can to improve schools, but it really feels like a paternalistic “savior” move to do what she advocates.

Except multiple posters have said Forestville should only move if there’s a compelling logistical need to move it and you keep claiming we’re all the same poster with a “social engineering” agenda. It’s just very odd.

Any suggestion that has a whiff of possibly affecting certain schools in certain ways is labeled social engineering around here — even before the renovations over the past few years occurred. It is sad. Just wait until next year when standards based grading is applied to all schools.

What’s sad about it? Parents should advocate for their kids. I’d take that any day of the week over someone who wants to upend the apple cart based on some vague misguided sense of social justice.

And deep down most people on this board know they would feel the exact same way if it were their kids’ educations on the line.

+1
So true and even more funny that none of the SJWs/Forestville-haters will ever tell us what school their own kids attend. What's beyond odd is taking such an obsessive interest in schools that their kids don't have anything to do with.

It’s because the SJWs here are hypocrites at the root of it.

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Anonymous wrote:Will the Langley bastion finally fall? I hope so. Rooting for this board.

Bitter much?

Gatehouse should make the best use of facilities, giving weight to efficiency and budget.
If the Langley boundaries change due to that then whatever.

The Langley boundaries may well need to change in a few years based on capacity and logistical issues, but if that happens they'll still claim it's being done to "punish" them. Hopefully with Robyn Lady representing the district rather than Elaine Tholen, decisions will be based on the merits and not just a desire to place Langley's interests over everyone else's.

“still?”
Where/when did Langley parents protest possible boundary changes with the argument that the school board wanted to punish them for something?

As to hoping the latest Dranesville rep will advocate for boundaries based on the merits of different options (which will apparently be demonstrated only if she wants to alter boundaries in a way that you desire)
—- I am old enough to remember all the crowing about Jane Strauss not being around to “protect” the Langley boundaries anymore after Elaine was elected, and we see how that worked out for people emotionally invested in some drastic change.

+100
There is no rational discussion to be had with the PP, who continues to rant about schools which her children don’t even attend. Interesting how she’ll never disclose where her kids actually do go to school.

+1. Her social engineering crusade is truly pathetic at this point. She is likely as insufferable in real life as she is on this forum.

Are you sock puppeting or do all these Langley posters sound EXACTLY the same?

I mean people will point out that changes should only be made, if at all, if needed based on capacity and logistics, and you'll still flail away about "social engineering."

Report the post and claim it’s a sock puppet post. It’s not, but you can see for yourself that I’m a DP when the admin doesn’t remove it. On the other hand, I’m quite certain that you are a one woman social engineering crusader.

Honest question - do you think "social engineering" means anything that might run counter to the wishes of a Langley family? Because there may be valid reasons to move kids in and out of Langley at some point that bear no resemblance to what "social engineering" generally is understood to connote.

Perhaps, but her posts are of one flavor - to soak the “rich” Forestville families. She’s got a real chip on her shoulder about it, especially since, as the board member recently pointed out, redistricting is bad for all involved, especially poor students. Her hatred of Forestville is just that great, that she’d be willing to hurt Herndon students to stick it to Forestville.

I am in favor of doing everything we can to improve schools, but it really feels like a paternalistic “savior” move to do what she advocates.

Except multiple posters have said Forestville should only move if there’s a compelling logistical need to move it and you keep claiming we’re all the same poster with a “social engineering” agenda. It’s just very odd.

Any suggestion that has a whiff of possibly affecting certain schools in certain ways is labeled social engineering around here — even before the renovations over the past few years occurred. It is sad. Just wait until next year when standards based grading is applied to all schools.

What’s sad about it? Parents should advocate for their kids. I’d take that any day of the week over someone who wants to upend the apple cart based on some vague misguided sense of social justice.

And deep down most people on this board know they would feel the exact same way if it were their kids’ educations on the line.

Whoa. That is quite the accusation about another FCPS school. You should see your therapist. That is next level overreacting.

Meanwhile, you make accusations about certain other schools every single day. Maybe do a little soul-searching?
DP

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Anonymous wrote:So you sincerely believe the following people should not have a say at all?

1. Arthur, whose kids are FCPS alumni. Arthur believes that strong schools build a strong community, and therefore, he has a vested interest in what happens in the community schools.
2. Beatrice, a retired teacher who lives in the community in which she taught for 35 years.
3. Carlos, a current FCPS teacher who has 15+ years of experience in education
4. Dania, a young woman who doesn't yet have children, but who hopes to have them within the next couple years.
5. Elliot, a professor of educational policy who lives in Fairfax County.
6. Farrah, a recent graduate of FCPS who has strong feelings about the state of our schools.

ANYONE who cares about our community should care about our public schools. They all have a right to vote, run for office (yes, even for school board!), and voice their opinions.
Saying you should have to have children in the system in order to run for SB or to vote is gross discrimination and is voter suppression. Think about how that would sound if you replaced your qualifier (about having school-age children) with a different one, such as gender, sex, religion, skin color, difference in ability, etc. Think about that. Just think. I hope you are ashamed of yourself!

Yes, that's what I'm saying. The only people with a say should be those with skin in the game who are directly impacted by the schools. That means parents.

By your reasoning, we should open up voting for Governor to the following people:
1. Arthur, who lives in California but his kids live in Virginia
2. Beatrice, a former Virginia resident who has retired to Florida but still has friends here
3. Carlos, a house cleaner who lives in Maryland but cleans houses in Virginia
4. Jorge, a Guatemalan currently walking towards the Texas border, where he hopes CBP will give him a free bus ticket to Virginia
5. Mohamed, a waiter in Jeddah who has been reading up on Virginia history
6. Kim, a North Korean who has strong feelings about the state of government in Virgina

Spot on!

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Anonymous wrote:Will the Langley bastion finally fall? I hope so. Rooting for this board.

Bitter much?

Gatehouse should make the best use of facilities, giving weight to efficiency and budget.
If the Langley boundaries change due to that then whatever.

The Langley boundaries may well need to change in a few years based on capacity and logistical issues, but if that happens they'll still claim it's being done to "punish" them. Hopefully with Robyn Lady representing the district rather than Elaine Tholen, decisions will be based on the merits and not just a desire to place Langley's interests over everyone else's.

“still?”
Where/when did Langley parents protest possible boundary changes with the argument that the school board wanted to punish them for something?

As to hoping the latest Dranesville rep will advocate for boundaries based on the merits of different options (which will apparently be demonstrated only if she wants to alter boundaries in a way that you desire)
—- I am old enough to remember all the crowing about Jane Strauss not being around to “protect” the Langley boundaries anymore after Elaine was elected, and we see how that worked out for people emotionally invested in some drastic change.

+100
There is no rational discussion to be had with the PP, who continues to rant about schools which her children don’t even attend. Interesting how she’ll never disclose where her kids actually do go to school.

+1. Her social engineering crusade is truly pathetic at this point. She is likely as insufferable in real life as she is on this forum.

Are you sock puppeting or do all these Langley posters sound EXACTLY the same?

I mean people will point out that changes should only be made, if at all, if needed based on capacity and logistics, and you'll still flail away about "social engineering."

Report the post and claim it’s a sock puppet post. It’s not, but you can see for yourself that I’m a DP when the admin doesn’t remove it. On the other hand, I’m quite certain that you are a one woman social engineering crusader.

Honest question - do you think "social engineering" means anything that might run counter to the wishes of a Langley family? Because there may be valid reasons to move kids in and out of Langley at some point that bear no resemblance to what "social engineering" generally is understood to connote.

Perhaps, but her posts are of one flavor - to soak the “rich” Forestville families. She’s got a real chip on her shoulder about it, especially since, as the board member recently pointed out, redistricting is bad for all involved, especially poor students. Her hatred of Forestville is just that great, that she’d be willing to hurt Herndon students to stick it to Forestville.

I am in favor of doing everything we can to improve schools, but it really feels like a paternalistic “savior” move to do what she advocates.

Except multiple posters have said Forestville should only move if there’s a compelling logistical need to move it and you keep claiming we’re all the same poster with a “social engineering” agenda. It’s just very odd.

Any suggestion that has a whiff of possibly affecting certain schools in certain ways is labeled social engineering around here — even before the renovations over the past few years occurred. It is sad. Just wait until next year when standards based grading is applied to all schools.

Agreed. It’s like some posters are only capable of a knee-jerk reaction or aren’t very familiar with the English language. If anything potentially interferes with their expectations, it’s “social engineering.”

Sorry, just want to point out the blatant hypocrisy that comes with someone purportedly advocating for redistricting to paternalistically help Herndon High while also mocking posters because she feels that they don’t have a grasp of the English language. Bless your cognitive dissonance.

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Anonymous wrote:Will the Langley bastion finally fall? I hope so. Rooting for this board.

Bitter much?

Gatehouse should make the best use of facilities, giving weight to efficiency and budget.
If the Langley boundaries change due to that then whatever.

The Langley boundaries may well need to change in a few years based on capacity and logistical issues, but if that happens they'll still claim it's being done to "punish" them. Hopefully with Robyn Lady representing the district rather than Elaine Tholen, decisions will be based on the merits and not just a desire to place Langley's interests over everyone else's.

“still?”
Where/when did Langley parents protest possible boundary changes with the argument that the school board wanted to punish them for something?

As to hoping the latest Dranesville rep will advocate for boundaries based on the merits of different options (which will apparently be demonstrated only if she wants to alter boundaries in a way that you desire)
—- I am old enough to remember all the crowing about Jane Strauss not being around to “protect” the Langley boundaries anymore after Elaine was elected, and we see how that worked out for people emotionally invested in some drastic change.

+100
There is no rational discussion to be had with the PP, who continues to rant about schools which her children don’t even attend. Interesting how she’ll never disclose where her kids actually do go to school.

+1. Her social engineering crusade is truly pathetic at this point. She is likely as insufferable in real life as she is on this forum.

Are you sock puppeting or do all these Langley posters sound EXACTLY the same?

I mean people will point out that changes should only be made, if at all, if needed based on capacity and logistics, and you'll still flail away about "social engineering."

Report the post and claim it’s a sock puppet post. It’s not, but you can see for yourself that I’m a DP when the admin doesn’t remove it. On the other hand, I’m quite certain that you are a one woman social engineering crusader.

Honest question - do you think "social engineering" means anything that might run counter to the wishes of a Langley family? Because there may be valid reasons to move kids in and out of Langley at some point that bear no resemblance to what "social engineering" generally is understood to connote.

Perhaps, but her posts are of one flavor - to soak the “rich” Forestville families. She’s got a real chip on her shoulder about it, especially since, as the board member recently pointed out, redistricting is bad for all involved, especially poor students. Her hatred of Forestville is just that great, that she’d be willing to hurt Herndon students to stick it to Forestville.

I am in favor of doing everything we can to improve schools, but it really feels like a paternalistic “savior” move to do what she advocates.

Except multiple posters have said Forestville should only move if there’s a compelling logistical need to move it and you keep claiming we’re all the same poster with a “social engineering” agenda. It’s just very odd.

Any suggestion that has a whiff of possibly affecting certain schools in certain ways is labeled social engineering around here — even before the renovations over the past few years occurred. It is sad. Just wait until next year when standards based grading is applied to all schools.

WTH kind of label is “standards- based grading?”
What have they been doing all these years? “Whim- based grading?” “Personality-based grading?”
Jeez.

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Anonymous wrote:It was clear from the time that Tholen scrubbed her campaign website of any favorable references to “One Fairfax” that she would do what her Great Falls neighbors wanted. And she did, for the most part.

Anyway with so much growth in Tysons and nearby areas they may need to move more kids to Langley at some point and the difference now is that Herndon has more space if they need to move kids there.

Nope the assertion back then was that she changed her website to get elected and that once in, she would be all in on the “comprehend review of the boundaries.”

Didn’t happen.

It could be, just might be that the boundaries didn’t need a massive overhaul.

You’re just making stuff up.

The grocery stores have large bags of ice.
Pick one up to soothe your butthurt.

That’s funny because the biggest butthurt on the forum is Langley posters getting so worked up whenever the mere possibility that their school might be part of a future boundary discussion is mentioned.

Why would they be irritated when they supposedly get what they want all the time?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So you sincerely believe the following people should not have a say at all?

1. Arthur, whose kids are FCPS alumni. Arthur believes that strong schools build a strong community, and therefore, he has a vested interest in what happens in the community schools.
2. Beatrice, a retired teacher who lives in the community in which she taught for 35 years.
3. Carlos, a current FCPS teacher who has 15+ years of experience in education
4. Dania, a young woman who doesn't yet have children, but who hopes to have them within the next couple years.
5. Elliot, a professor of educational policy who lives in Fairfax County.
6. Farrah, a recent graduate of FCPS who has strong feelings about the state of our schools.

ANYONE who cares about our community should care about our public schools. They all have a right to vote, run for office (yes, even for school board!), and voice their opinions.
Saying you should have to have children in the system in order to run for SB or to vote is gross discrimination and is voter suppression. Think about how that would sound if you replaced your qualifier (about having school-age children) with a different one, such as gender, sex, religion, skin color, difference in ability, etc. Think about that. Just think. I hope you are ashamed of yourself!

Yes, that's what I'm saying. The only people with a say should be those with skin in the game who are directly impacted by the schools. That means parents.

By your reasoning, we should open up voting for Governor to the following people:
1. Arthur, who lives in California but his kids live in Virginia
2. Beatrice, a former Virginia resident who has retired to Florida but still has friends here
3. Carlos, a house cleaner who lives in Maryland but cleans houses in Virginia
4. Jorge, a Guatemalan currently walking towards the Texas border, where he hopes CBP will give him a free bus ticket to Virginia
5. Mohamed, a waiter in Jeddah who has been reading up on Virginia history
6. Kim, a North Korean who has strong feelings about the state of government in Virgina

I think "reason" is something you are sorely lacking. Your not-at-all-intelligent quip is not even remotely equivalent and if you are unaware of of that, I feel very sorry for you.

Your level of bigotry and racism is unbelievable.

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Anonymous wrote:Will the Langley bastion finally fall? I hope so. Rooting for this board.

Bitter much?

Gatehouse should make the best use of facilities, giving weight to efficiency and budget.
If the Langley boundaries change due to that then whatever.

The Langley boundaries may well need to change in a few years based on capacity and logistical issues, but if that happens they'll still claim it's being done to "punish" them. Hopefully with Robyn Lady representing the district rather than Elaine Tholen, decisions will be based on the merits and not just a desire to place Langley's interests over everyone else's.

“still?”
Where/when did Langley parents protest possible boundary changes with the argument that the school board wanted to punish them for something?

As to hoping the latest Dranesville rep will advocate for boundaries based on the merits of different options (which will apparently be demonstrated only if she wants to alter boundaries in a way that you desire)
—- I am old enough to remember all the crowing about Jane Strauss not being around to “protect” the Langley boundaries anymore after Elaine was elected, and we see how that worked out for people emotionally invested in some drastic change.

+100
There is no rational discussion to be had with the PP, who continues to rant about schools which her children don’t even attend. Interesting how she’ll never disclose where her kids actually do go to school.

+1. Her social engineering crusade is truly pathetic at this point. She is likely as insufferable in real life as she is on this forum.

Are you sock puppeting or do all these Langley posters sound EXACTLY the same?

I mean people will point out that changes should only be made, if at all, if needed based on capacity and logistics, and you'll still flail away about "social engineering."

Report the post and claim it’s a sock puppet post. It’s not, but you can see for yourself that I’m a DP when the admin doesn’t remove it. On the other hand, I’m quite certain that you are a one woman social engineering crusader.

Honest question - do you think "social engineering" means anything that might run counter to the wishes of a Langley family? Because there may be valid reasons to move kids in and out of Langley at some point that bear no resemblance to what "social engineering" generally is understood to connote.

Perhaps, but her posts are of one flavor - to soak the “rich” Forestville families. She’s got a real chip on her shoulder about it, especially since, as the board member recently pointed out, redistricting is bad for all involved, especially poor students. Her hatred of Forestville is just that great, that she’d be willing to hurt Herndon students to stick it to Forestville.

I am in favor of doing everything we can to improve schools, but it really feels like a paternalistic “savior” move to do what she advocates.

Except multiple posters have said Forestville should only move if there’s a compelling logistical need to move it and you keep claiming we’re all the same poster with a “social engineering” agenda. It’s just very odd.

Any suggestion that has a whiff of possibly affecting certain schools in certain ways is labeled social engineering around here — even before the renovations over the past few years occurred. It is sad. Just wait until next year when standards based grading is applied to all schools.

Agreed. It’s like some posters are only capable of a knee-jerk reaction or aren’t very familiar with the English language. If anything potentially interferes with their expectations, it’s “social engineering.”

Sorry, just want to point out the blatant hypocrisy that comes with someone purportedly advocating for redistricting to paternalistically help Herndon High while also mocking posters because she feels that they don’t have a grasp of the English language. Bless your cognitive dissonance.

Bless your straw-man arguments. Or is that “social engineering” as well?

You have to be short on both imagination and common sense to think that attacking everything you disagree with as “social engineering” is going to carry the day.

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Anonymous wrote:Will the Langley bastion finally fall? I hope so. Rooting for this board.

Bitter much?

Gatehouse should make the best use of facilities, giving weight to efficiency and budget.
If the Langley boundaries change due to that then whatever.

The Langley boundaries may well need to change in a few years based on capacity and logistical issues, but if that happens they'll still claim it's being done to "punish" them. Hopefully with Robyn Lady representing the district rather than Elaine Tholen, decisions will be based on the merits and not just a desire to place Langley's interests over everyone else's.

“still?”
Where/when did Langley parents protest possible boundary changes with the argument that the school board wanted to punish them for something?

As to hoping the latest Dranesville rep will advocate for boundaries based on the merits of different options (which will apparently be demonstrated only if she wants to alter boundaries in a way that you desire)
—- I am old enough to remember all the crowing about Jane Strauss not being around to “protect” the Langley boundaries anymore after Elaine was elected, and we see how that worked out for people emotionally invested in some drastic change.

+100
There is no rational discussion to be had with the PP, who continues to rant about schools which her children don’t even attend. Interesting how she’ll never disclose where her kids actually do go to school.

+1. Her social engineering crusade is truly pathetic at this point. She is likely as insufferable in real life as she is on this forum.

Are you sock puppeting or do all these Langley posters sound EXACTLY the same?

I mean people will point out that changes should only be made, if at all, if needed based on capacity and logistics, and you'll still flail away about "social engineering."

Report the post and claim it’s a sock puppet post. It’s not, but you can see for yourself that I’m a DP when the admin doesn’t remove it. On the other hand, I’m quite certain that you are a one woman social engineering crusader.

Honest question - do you think "social engineering" means anything that might run counter to the wishes of a Langley family? Because there may be valid reasons to move kids in and out of Langley at some point that bear no resemblance to what "social engineering" generally is understood to connote.

Perhaps, but her posts are of one flavor - to soak the “rich” Forestville families. She’s got a real chip on her shoulder about it, especially since, as the board member recently pointed out, redistricting is bad for all involved, especially poor students. Her hatred of Forestville is just that great, that she’d be willing to hurt Herndon students to stick it to Forestville.

I am in favor of doing everything we can to improve schools, but it really feels like a paternalistic “savior” move to do what she advocates.

Except multiple posters have said Forestville should only move if there’s a compelling logistical need to move it and you keep claiming we’re all the same poster with a “social engineering” agenda. It’s just very odd.

Any suggestion that has a whiff of possibly affecting certain schools in certain ways is labeled social engineering around here — even before the renovations over the past few years occurred. It is sad. Just wait until next year when standards based grading is applied to all schools.

Agreed. It’s like some posters are only capable of a knee-jerk reaction or aren’t very familiar with the English language. If anything potentially interferes with their expectations, it’s “social engineering.”

Sorry, just want to point out the blatant hypocrisy that comes with someone purportedly advocating for redistricting to paternalistically help Herndon High while also mocking posters because she feels that they don’t have a grasp of the English language. Bless your cognitive dissonance.

Bless your straw-man arguments. Or is that “social engineering” as well?

You have to be short on both imagination and common sense to think that attacking everything you disagree with as “social engineering” is going to carry the day.

Ah, yes, my apologies for defending non-native English speakers against your blatant racism. The record is quite clear what you meant from your post above. Hypocrite in every sense of the word - pretending to care about Herndon High while denigrating is students.

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Anonymous wrote:It was clear from the time that Tholen scrubbed her campaign website of any favorable references to “One Fairfax” that she would do what her Great Falls neighbors wanted. And she did, for the most part.

Anyway with so much growth in Tysons and nearby areas they may need to move more kids to Langley at some point and the difference now is that Herndon has more space if they need to move kids there.

Nope the assertion back then was that she changed her website to get elected and that once in, she would be all in on the “comprehend review of the boundaries.”

Didn’t happen.

It could be, just might be that the boundaries didn’t need a massive overhaul.

You’re just making stuff up.

The grocery stores have large bags of ice.
Pick one up to soothe your butthurt.

That’s funny because the biggest butthurt on the forum is Langley posters getting so worked up whenever the mere possibility that their school might be part of a future boundary discussion is mentioned.

Why would they be irritated when they supposedly get what they want all the time?

When you know the system has been rigged in your favor in the past, it gives rise to both a sense of entitlement and considerable insecurity.

Next question.

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Anonymous wrote:Will the Langley bastion finally fall? I hope so. Rooting for this board.

Bitter much?

Gatehouse should make the best use of facilities, giving weight to efficiency and budget.
If the Langley boundaries change due to that then whatever.

The Langley boundaries may well need to change in a few years based on capacity and logistical issues, but if that happens they'll still claim it's being done to "punish" them. Hopefully with Robyn Lady representing the district rather than Elaine Tholen, decisions will be based on the merits and not just a desire to place Langley's interests over everyone else's.

“still?”
Where/when did Langley parents protest possible boundary changes with the argument that the school board wanted to punish them for something?

As to hoping the latest Dranesville rep will advocate for boundaries based on the merits of different options (which will apparently be demonstrated only if she wants to alter boundaries in a way that you desire)
—- I am old enough to remember all the crowing about Jane Strauss not being around to “protect” the Langley boundaries anymore after Elaine was elected, and we see how that worked out for people emotionally invested in some drastic change.

+100
There is no rational discussion to be had with the PP, who continues to rant about schools which her children don’t even attend. Interesting how she’ll never disclose where her kids actually do go to school.

+1. Her social engineering crusade is truly pathetic at this point. She is likely as insufferable in real life as she is on this forum.

Are you sock puppeting or do all these Langley posters sound EXACTLY the same?

I mean people will point out that changes should only be made, if at all, if needed based on capacity and logistics, and you'll still flail away about "social engineering."

Report the post and claim it’s a sock puppet post. It’s not, but you can see for yourself that I’m a DP when the admin doesn’t remove it. On the other hand, I’m quite certain that you are a one woman social engineering crusader.

Honest question - do you think "social engineering" means anything that might run counter to the wishes of a Langley family? Because there may be valid reasons to move kids in and out of Langley at some point that bear no resemblance to what "social engineering" generally is understood to connote.

Perhaps, but her posts are of one flavor - to soak the “rich” Forestville families. She’s got a real chip on her shoulder about it, especially since, as the board member recently pointed out, redistricting is bad for all involved, especially poor students. Her hatred of Forestville is just that great, that she’d be willing to hurt Herndon students to stick it to Forestville.

I am in favor of doing everything we can to improve schools, but it really feels like a paternalistic “savior” move to do what she advocates.

Except multiple posters have said Forestville should only move if there’s a compelling logistical need to move it and you keep claiming we’re all the same poster with a “social engineering” agenda. It’s just very odd.

Any suggestion that has a whiff of possibly affecting certain schools in certain ways is labeled social engineering around here — even before the renovations over the past few years occurred. It is sad. Just wait until next year when standards based grading is applied to all schools.

Agreed. It’s like some posters are only capable of a knee-jerk reaction or aren’t very familiar with the English language. If anything potentially interferes with their expectations, it’s “social engineering.”

Sorry, just want to point out the blatant hypocrisy that comes with someone purportedly advocating for redistricting to paternalistically help Herndon High while also mocking posters because she feels that they don’t have a grasp of the English language. Bless your cognitive dissonance.

Bless your straw-man arguments. Or is that “social engineering” as well?

You have to be short on both imagination and common sense to think that attacking everything you disagree with as “social engineering” is going to carry the day.

Ah, yes, my apologies for defending non-native English speakers against your blatant racism. The record is quite clear what you meant from your post above. Hypocrite in every sense of the word - pretending to care about Herndon High while denigrating is students.

The hypocrisy is anyone (but especially Forestville parents) hyperventilating about the prospect of ever being reassigned to Herndon pretending to give a rat’s ass about non-native English speakers.

However, a pro tip for any English speakers, regardless of their level of fluency, is that “social engineering” does not mean everything that you personally happen to disfavor.

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Anonymous wrote:It was clear from the time that Tholen scrubbed her campaign website of any favorable references to “One Fairfax” that she would do what her Great Falls neighbors wanted. And she did, for the most part.

Anyway with so much growth in Tysons and nearby areas they may need to move more kids to Langley at some point and the difference now is that Herndon has more space if they need to move kids there.

Nope the assertion back then was that she changed her website to get elected and that once in, she would be all in on the “comprehend review of the boundaries.”

Didn’t happen.

It could be, just might be that the boundaries didn’t need a massive overhaul.

You’re just making stuff up.

The grocery stores have large bags of ice.
Pick one up to soothe your butthurt.

That’s funny because the biggest butthurt on the forum is Langley posters getting so worked up whenever the mere possibility that their school might be part of a future boundary discussion is mentioned.

Why would they be irritated when they supposedly get what they want all the time?

When you know the system has been rigged in your favor in the past, it gives rise to both a sense of entitlement and considerable insecurity.

Next question.

When you get what you want every single time you are challenged, you are actually quite secure.

You should probably get two bags of ice.

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Anonymous wrote:Will the Langley bastion finally fall? I hope so. Rooting for this board.

Bitter much?

Gatehouse should make the best use of facilities, giving weight to efficiency and budget.
If the Langley boundaries change due to that then whatever.

The Langley boundaries may well need to change in a few years based on capacity and logistical issues, but if that happens they'll still claim it's being done to "punish" them. Hopefully with Robyn Lady representing the district rather than Elaine Tholen, decisions will be based on the merits and not just a desire to place Langley's interests over everyone else's.

“still?”
Where/when did Langley parents protest possible boundary changes with the argument that the school board wanted to punish them for something?

As to hoping the latest Dranesville rep will advocate for boundaries based on the merits of different options (which will apparently be demonstrated only if she wants to alter boundaries in a way that you desire)
—- I am old enough to remember all the crowing about Jane Strauss not being around to “protect” the Langley boundaries anymore after Elaine was elected, and we see how that worked out for people emotionally invested in some drastic change.

+100
There is no rational discussion to be had with the PP, who continues to rant about schools which her children don’t even attend. Interesting how she’ll never disclose where her kids actually do go to school.

+1. Her social engineering crusade is truly pathetic at this point. She is likely as insufferable in real life as she is on this forum.

Are you sock puppeting or do all these Langley posters sound EXACTLY the same?

I mean people will point out that changes should only be made, if at all, if needed based on capacity and logistics, and you'll still flail away about "social engineering."

Report the post and claim it’s a sock puppet post. It’s not, but you can see for yourself that I’m a DP when the admin doesn’t remove it. On the other hand, I’m quite certain that you are a one woman social engineering crusader.

Honest question - do you think "social engineering" means anything that might run counter to the wishes of a Langley family? Because there may be valid reasons to move kids in and out of Langley at some point that bear no resemblance to what "social engineering" generally is understood to connote.

Perhaps, but her posts are of one flavor - to soak the “rich” Forestville families. She’s got a real chip on her shoulder about it, especially since, as the board member recently pointed out, redistricting is bad for all involved, especially poor students. Her hatred of Forestville is just that great, that she’d be willing to hurt Herndon students to stick it to Forestville.

I am in favor of doing everything we can to improve schools, but it really feels like a paternalistic “savior” move to do what she advocates.

Except multiple posters have said Forestville should only move if there’s a compelling logistical need to move it and you keep claiming we’re all the same poster with a “social engineering” agenda. It’s just very odd.

Any suggestion that has a whiff of possibly affecting certain schools in certain ways is labeled social engineering around here — even before the renovations over the past few years occurred. It is sad. Just wait until next year when standards based grading is applied to all schools.

What’s sad about it? Parents should advocate for their kids. I’d take that any day of the week over someone who wants to upend the apple cart based on some vague misguided sense of social justice.

And deep down most people on this board know they would feel the exact same way if it were their kids’ educations on the line.

Whoa. That is quite the accusation about another FCPS school. You should see your therapist. That is next level overreacting.

I know, right? It’s like I have this obsession with trying to screw over other people’s kids. It’s really next level f-ed up. I pretend to care about poor people, but I really just hate a subset of our county that I believe has money.

It’s infuriating, I just can’t sleep at night, it tears me apart. I seethe.

Oh wait, that’s you, the paternalistic social engineer looking to have Forestville kids play savior for other people’s kids.

It turns out that wanting what’s best for one’s child is typically not grounds to see a therapist. You however, sweetie, should consider it.

Actually, you are a flat out racist. I’m not even sure you have a child in school.

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Anonymous wrote:Will the Langley bastion finally fall? I hope so. Rooting for this board.

Bitter much?

Gatehouse should make the best use of facilities, giving weight to efficiency and budget.
If the Langley boundaries change due to that then whatever.

The Langley boundaries may well need to change in a few years based on capacity and logistical issues, but if that happens they'll still claim it's being done to "punish" them. Hopefully with Robyn Lady representing the district rather than Elaine Tholen, decisions will be based on the merits and not just a desire to place Langley's interests over everyone else's.

“still?”
Where/when did Langley parents protest possible boundary changes with the argument that the school board wanted to punish them for something?

As to hoping the latest Dranesville rep will advocate for boundaries based on the merits of different options (which will apparently be demonstrated only if she wants to alter boundaries in a way that you desire)
—- I am old enough to remember all the crowing about Jane Strauss not being around to “protect” the Langley boundaries anymore after Elaine was elected, and we see how that worked out for people emotionally invested in some drastic change.

+100
There is no rational discussion to be had with the PP, who continues to rant about schools which her children don’t even attend. Interesting how she’ll never disclose where her kids actually do go to school.

+1. Her social engineering crusade is truly pathetic at this point. She is likely as insufferable in real life as she is on this forum.

Are you sock puppeting or do all these Langley posters sound EXACTLY the same?

I mean people will point out that changes should only be made, if at all, if needed based on capacity and logistics, and you'll still flail away about "social engineering."

Report the post and claim it’s a sock puppet post. It’s not, but you can see for yourself that I’m a DP when the admin doesn’t remove it. On the other hand, I’m quite certain that you are a one woman social engineering crusader.

Honest question - do you think "social engineering" means anything that might run counter to the wishes of a Langley family? Because there may be valid reasons to move kids in and out of Langley at some point that bear no resemblance to what "social engineering" generally is understood to connote.

Perhaps, but her posts are of one flavor - to soak the “rich” Forestville families. She’s got a real chip on her shoulder about it, especially since, as the board member recently pointed out, redistricting is bad for all involved, especially poor students. Her hatred of Forestville is just that great, that she’d be willing to hurt Herndon students to stick it to Forestville.

I am in favor of doing everything we can to improve schools, but it really feels like a paternalistic “savior” move to do what she advocates.

Except multiple posters have said Forestville should only move if there’s a compelling logistical need to move it and you keep claiming we’re all the same poster with a “social engineering” agenda. It’s just very odd.

Any suggestion that has a whiff of possibly affecting certain schools in certain ways is labeled social engineering around here — even before the renovations over the past few years occurred. It is sad. Just wait until next year when standards based grading is applied to all schools.

WTH kind of label is “standards- based grading?”
What have they been doing all these years? “Whim- based grading?” “Personality-based grading?”
Jeez.

Read the Madison HS thread.