APS Closing Nottingham

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What does this mean??

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Anonymous wrote:Not wanting your school to be shut down doesn’t sound very “entitled” to me. Any of us would be upset to get this news, even if APS has a legitimate need for a swing school and somebody’s facility needs to be closed to serve that purpose. Any other school communities want to volunteer their school? If not, does it make those communities “entitled”? Of course not.

It is when it's your 2nd or 3rd time on the chopping block and you throw APS's hot potato at a different school in your stead every time. Look now you guys are throwing it at Taylor and Discovery and Jamestown. Just suck it up!

This proposal doesn’t have anything to do with redistricting though. I would feel better if this was redistricting that would ease the burden of overcrowded schools. This is “ Nottingham is a convenient spot to put other schools while they are being renovated”. What does it do to improve the capacity issues at other schools?

Yes capacity as a separate issue but it comes in to play in this discussion because if you’re only having to relocate two classes per grade, that’s a lot easier than using another school as swung space where you have to relocate 4 or 5 classes per grade in neighborhood schools.

[Anonymous]

I have not read the whole thread, but on paper, this whole thing makes a lot of sense to me. We do have excess capacity in that part of Arlington right now, we do need a swing space because we have a lot of old buildings.

I am sorry for the Nottingham community, as someone who has been through a boundary process that chopped up our neighborhood school, it sucked. But as a taxpayer, sorry folks, this is just life. There is no perfect solution, but I think this is a good call on APS' part.

As for traffic, etc. PLEASE. You have no idea. There are lots of neighborhoods in Arlington with multiple schools. Also plenty that have lived through huge construction projects. You will be OK.

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Anonymous wrote:I have not read the whole thread, but on paper, this whole thing makes a lot of sense to me. We do have excess capacity in that part of Arlington right now, we do need a swing space because we have a lot of old buildings.

I am sorry for the Nottingham community, as someone who has been through a boundary process that chopped up our neighborhood school, it sucked. But as a taxpayer, sorry folks, this is just life. There is no perfect solution, but I think this is a good call on APS' part.

As for traffic, etc. PLEASE. You have no idea. There are lots of neighborhoods in Arlington with multiple schools. Also plenty that have lived through huge construction projects. You will be OK.

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Anonymous wrote:I have not read the whole thread, but on paper, this whole thing makes a lot of sense to me. We do have excess capacity in that part of Arlington right now, we do need a swing space because we have a lot of old buildings.

I am sorry for the Nottingham community, as someone who has been through a boundary process that chopped up our neighborhood school, it sucked. But as a taxpayer, sorry folks, this is just life. There is no perfect solution, but I think this is a good call on APS' part.

As for traffic, etc. PLEASE. You have no idea. There are lots of neighborhoods in Arlington with multiple schools. Also plenty that have lived through huge construction projects. You will be OK.

I was with you until the traffic comment. The community is very sensitive because of the three tragic, recent deaths.

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Anonymous wrote:I have not read the whole thread, but on paper, this whole thing makes a lot of sense to me. We do have excess capacity in that part of Arlington right now, we do need a swing space because we have a lot of old buildings.

I am sorry for the Nottingham community, as someone who has been through a boundary process that chopped up our neighborhood school, it sucked. But as a taxpayer, sorry folks, this is just life. There is no perfect solution, but I think this is a good call on APS' part.

As for traffic, etc. PLEASE. You have no idea. There are lots of neighborhoods in Arlington with multiple schools. Also plenty that have lived through huge construction projects. You will be OK.

You don’t make expensive capital decisions based on RIGHT NOW. Not after a three month outreach process, not after a pandemic that has introduced multiple variables.

Sorry. I know it makes sense for you because it screws Nottingham, but this is not how reasonable planning is done. Read the report and ask yourself if it would make sense if it was your school getting shut down.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not wanting your school to be shut down doesn’t sound very “entitled” to me. Any of us would be upset to get this news, even if APS has a legitimate need for a swing school and somebody’s facility needs to be closed to serve that purpose. Any other school communities want to volunteer their school? If not, does it make those communities “entitled”? Of course not.

It is when it's your 2nd or 3rd time on the chopping block and you throw APS's hot potato at a different school in your stead every time. Look now you guys are throwing it at Taylor and Discovery and Jamestown. Just suck it up!

This proposal doesn’t have anything to do with redistricting though. I would feel better if this was redistricting that would ease the burden of overcrowded schools. This is “ Nottingham is a convenient spot to put other schools while they are being renovated”. What does it do to improve the capacity issues at other schools?

Yes capacity as a separate issue but it comes in to play in this discussion because if you’re only having to relocate two classes per grade, that’s a lot easier than using another school as swung space where you have to relocate 4 or 5 classes per grade in neighborhood schools.

Or they could use one of the 15 other acceptable locations as swing space. How is it good public policy to close a functioning elementary school at over 80 percent capacity, all the whole eliminating single family zoning across the county, screaming that EVERYONE WANTS TO LIVE IN ARLINGTON!! Meanwhile 90 percent of the comments on this thread are about balancing capacity across Arlington, and this proposal has literally nothing to do with rebalancing capacity. I wish that the county had disclosed what school plans to take over Nottingham, and, more importantly, what additional future projects need completion. Then, at least we could have a spirited mud, throwing contest about whether or not those rehabilitation projects are needed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have not read the whole thread, but on paper, this whole thing makes a lot of sense to me. We do have excess capacity in that part of Arlington right now, we do need a swing space because we have a lot of old buildings.

I am sorry for the Nottingham community, as someone who has been through a boundary process that chopped up our neighborhood school, it sucked. But as a taxpayer, sorry folks, this is just life. There is no perfect solution, but I think this is a good call on APS' part.

As for traffic, etc. PLEASE. You have no idea. There are lots of neighborhoods in Arlington with multiple schools. Also plenty that have lived through huge construction projects. You will be OK.

Groan. Here come the Route 50 frontage road discount buyers telling us what we should and shouldn’t put up with. Some people made different choices than you to live in a quiet neighborhood.

Guaranteed the choices that made your neighborhood what it is were not done in 3 months when over half the people being affected had no idea it was even happening.

[Anonymous]

Nottingham parents really are the worst. I don't have skin in this game anymore but just echo the earlier PP in saying: Discovery, Taylor, and Jamestown, watch your backs!

[Anonymous]

How do you to elementary school’s absorb 50 kindergartners anyway? Do they justify them 25 and 25 and stick them in a trailer out back? I’m assuming neither discovery nor Tuckahoe has an additional kindergarten classroom available.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I have not read the whole thread, but on paper, this whole thing makes a lot of sense to me. We do have excess capacity in that part of Arlington right now, we do need a swing space because we have a lot of old buildings.

I am sorry for the Nottingham community, as someone who has been through a boundary process that chopped up our neighborhood school, it sucked. But as a taxpayer, sorry folks, this is just life. There is no perfect solution, but I think this is a good call on APS' part.

As for traffic, etc. PLEASE. You have no idea. There are lots of neighborhoods in Arlington with multiple schools. Also plenty that have lived through huge construction projects. You will be OK.

I was with you until the traffic comment. The community is very sensitive because of the three tragic, recent deaths.

I live near TJ middle school where a pedestrian was also recently killed. Since we moved here, they have built Fleet and are now adding 1000 seats to the Career Center. They also took our neighborhood elementary school (Henry) and chopped it in half. So, again, I am sympathetic, I am, but I still think this decision makes sense.

Also, with the passage of Missing Middle, Arlington is basically announcing that no one is guaranteed anything, so get used to it, folks.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have not read the whole thread, but on paper, this whole thing makes a lot of sense to me. We do have excess capacity in that part of Arlington right now, we do need a swing space because we have a lot of old buildings.

I am sorry for the Nottingham community, as someone who has been through a boundary process that chopped up our neighborhood school, it sucked. But as a taxpayer, sorry folks, this is just life. There is no perfect solution, but I think this is a good call on APS' part.

As for traffic, etc. PLEASE. You have no idea. There are lots of neighborhoods in Arlington with multiple schools. Also plenty that have lived through huge construction projects. You will be OK.

Groan. Here come the Route 50 frontage road discount buyers telling us what we should and shouldn’t put up with. Some people made different choices than you to live in a quiet neighborhood.

Guaranteed the choices that made your neighborhood what it is were not done in 3 months when over half the people being affected had no idea it was even happening.

WOW. What do you Nottingham families REALLY think about the rest of us?!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How do you to elementary school’s absorb 50 kindergartners anyway? Do they justify them 25 and 25 and stick them in a trailer out back? I’m assuming neither discovery nor Tuckahoe has an additional kindergarten classroom available.

I think they do. These schools ran 4-5 kindergartens not so long ago.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have not read the whole thread, but on paper, this whole thing makes a lot of sense to me. We do have excess capacity in that part of Arlington right now, we do need a swing space because we have a lot of old buildings.

I am sorry for the Nottingham community, as someone who has been through a boundary process that chopped up our neighborhood school, it sucked. But as a taxpayer, sorry folks, this is just life. There is no perfect solution, but I think this is a good call on APS' part.

As for traffic, etc. PLEASE. You have no idea. There are lots of neighborhoods in Arlington with multiple schools. Also plenty that have lived through huge construction projects. You will be OK.

I was with you until the traffic comment. The community is very sensitive because of the three tragic, recent deaths.

I live near TJ middle school where a pedestrian was also recently killed. Since we moved here, they have built Fleet and are now adding 1000 seats to the Career Center. They also took our neighborhood elementary school (Henry) and chopped it in half. So, again, I am sympathetic, I am, but I still think this decision makes sense.

Also, with the passage of Missing Middle, Arlington is basically announcing that no one is guaranteed anything, so get used to it, folks.

Oh, I totally agree that this makes sense, but flippant comments about getting over the traffic concerns are really unnecessary given the background of what has happened in the community/Neughborhood.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have not read the whole thread, but on paper, this whole thing makes a lot of sense to me. We do have excess capacity in that part of Arlington right now, we do need a swing space because we have a lot of old buildings.

I am sorry for the Nottingham community, as someone who has been through a boundary process that chopped up our neighborhood school, it sucked. But as a taxpayer, sorry folks, this is just life. There is no perfect solution, but I think this is a good call on APS' part.

As for traffic, etc. PLEASE. You have no idea. There are lots of neighborhoods in Arlington with multiple schools. Also plenty that have lived through huge construction projects. You will be OK.

I was with you until the traffic comment. The community is very sensitive because of the three tragic, recent deaths.

I live near TJ middle school where a pedestrian was also recently killed. Since we moved here, they have built Fleet and are now adding 1000 seats to the Career Center. They also took our neighborhood elementary school (Henry) and chopped it in half. So, again, I am sympathetic, I am, but I still think this decision makes sense.

Also, with the passage of Missing Middle, Arlington is basically announcing that no one is guaranteed anything, so get used to it, folks.

Oh, I totally agree that this makes sense, but flippant comments about getting over the traffic concerns are really unnecessary given the background of what has happened in the community/Neughborhood.

OK, fair enough. I don't know the whole background. I was just trying to make the point that lots of Arlington neighborhoods have to deal with significant amounts of school related traffic. I am not flippant about pedestrian deaths, and if there have been lots around Nottingham, that is a concern. Arlington Heights had to advocate years ago for a STOP sign on a busy school route. It took a ridiculous amount of time to get it, too. But generally speaking, I don't see APS stopping any projects because of traffic concerns. You will just have to advocate for safety where you can. Every school project has traffic concerns is my point.