MCPS Teachers Quitting? Who is replacing them?

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Most of the newer younger teachers at my current school are not staying. It takes 10 years to vest in the Maryland pension. If you are not planning on staying that long it makes sense to leave teacher and start a new career. Seasoned teachers are staying until pensions kick in. I don’t hear many talk about staying longer.


Can you go to another school system in MD and combine years with MCPS for pension purposes? That would at least get you out of here.


You assume it is better elsewhere?
Anonymous
The teachers who are left are in it for the pension I’m afraid. There needs to be more benefits and perks to being a teacher. Not only is it time and money for a BA and maybe a Masters, it’s time for unpaid student teaching, money to take the STUPID multiple praxis tests before you can get a certificate . Then, it’s a 59k starting salary with zero remote time or flexibility to stand in a room and have an audience completely ignore and disrespect you while they stare at their phones. Last time I called a parent, she didn’t care about the phone use of her son, she only cared if he would pass. I am an MCPS teacher and I wouldn’t recommend this job to anyone.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Hmmmm. Replacing teachers.... Google, YouTube, tik tok are your new teachers now and they really do turn a blind eye to maladaptive behavior.



About a month ago, I had a kindergartener tell me that he didn't like "this show." I asked him, "What show?" He said, "This one!" I asked, "Do you mean school?" and he said yes. So many of these kids have been raised on devices that I guess our "show" isn't as interesting as Tik Tok and You Tube.


Digital Native 2.0
Anonymous
I feel for you, teachers!
Thank you for all your hard work and dedication. Know that you are very much appreciated at least by some kids and families!

Yes, parents must be more responsible and accountable. Schools should be able to suspend/expel kids for poor behavior. Consequences are a part of life and should be for school too. Would love to see Chromebooks minimized much more across the board.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I feel for you, teachers!
Thank you for all your hard work and dedication. Know that you are very much appreciated at least by some kids and families!

Yes, parents must be more responsible and accountable. Schools should be able to suspend/expel kids for poor behavior. Consequences are a part of life and should be for school too. Would love to see Chromebooks minimized much more across the board.


Public schools are a right. Expulsion will never be an option for minor behavioral issues.
Anonymous
Is this still happening? Not many jobs on the MCPS career website this year.
Anonymous
Well class size was increased, virtual academy closed, some positions were cut, and a ton of staff already retired or quit in the past couple years. So there was some consolidation and shifting that led to fewer openings.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Well class size was increased, virtual academy closed, some positions were cut, and a ton of staff already retired or quit in the past couple years. So there was some consolidation and shifting that led to fewer openings.


True.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Well class size was increased, virtual academy closed, some positions were cut, and a ton of staff already retired or quit in the past couple years. So there was some consolidation and shifting that led to fewer openings.


They also did not fund early education programs, an autism program, an auto trade program…..
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I feel for you, teachers!
Thank you for all your hard work and dedication. Know that you are very much appreciated at least by some kids and families!

Yes, parents must be more responsible and accountable. Schools should be able to suspend/expel kids for poor behavior. Consequences are a part of life and should be for school too. Would love to see Chromebooks minimized much more across the board.


Public schools are a right. Expulsion will never be an option for minor behavioral issues.[/quote

No one is saying we should expel kids for minor behavioral issues. We (teachers) are virtually ALL saying that kids who are physically aggressive should be placed into a more therapeutic/restrictive setting where they can get the help they need and deserve. I am personally saying that state boards of education need to open and staff many PUBLIC therapeutic schools that can handle these type of kids. Pay their teachers 200K to start and their TAs 100K to start. Go with a 1:2 ratio of adults. Raise the hell out of taxes. I don't care what it costs but kids who destroy classrooms, who assault teachers or threaten to assault teachers, etc, DO NOT BELONG IN GEN ED.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I feel for you, teachers!
Thank you for all your hard work and dedication. Know that you are very much appreciated at least by some kids and families!

Yes, parents must be more responsible and accountable. Schools should be able to suspend/expel kids for poor behavior. Consequences are a part of life and should be for school too. Would love to see Chromebooks minimized much more across the board.


Public schools are a right. Expulsion will never be an option for minor behavioral issues.


No one is saying we should expel kids for minor behavioral issues. We (teachers) are virtually ALL saying that kids who are physically aggressive should be placed into a more therapeutic/restrictive setting where they can get the help they need and deserve. I am personally saying that state boards of education need to open and staff many PUBLIC therapeutic schools that can handle these type of kids. Pay their teachers 200K to start and their TAs 100K to start. Go with a 1:2 ratio of adults. Raise the hell out of taxes. I don't care what it costs but kids who destroy classrooms, who assault teachers or threaten to assault teachers, etc, DO NOT BELONG IN GEN ED.


Some are saying that kids should be expelled for behavioral issues. Look at the post I was replying to.

You're right that some kids that are physically aggressive should be in more restrictive environments. But others just need more support in the gen ed classroom.

Unfortunately MCPS is stingy with paraeducators. And since they don't give 1:1 paraeducators benefits, you're often not getting great people in those positions. Simply treating all full-time paraeducators like normal employees would be a tremendous improvement.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Is this still happening? Not many jobs on the MCPS career website this year.

There are ~80 1.0 FTE teaching positions posted that aren’t long term substitute positions. About half posted in the past month. Still a batch of leftover Special Ed positions from September, but the rest are a mix of ES, MS, and HS regular classroom teachers.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I feel for you, teachers!
Thank you for all your hard work and dedication. Know that you are very much appreciated at least by some kids and families!

Yes, parents must be more responsible and accountable. Schools should be able to suspend/expel kids for poor behavior. Consequences are a part of life and should be for school too. Would love to see Chromebooks minimized much more across the board.


Public schools are a right. Expulsion will never be an option for minor behavioral issues.


No one is saying we should expel kids for minor behavioral issues. We (teachers) are virtually ALL saying that kids who are physically aggressive should be placed into a more therapeutic/restrictive setting where they can get the help they need and deserve. I am personally saying that state boards of education need to open and staff many PUBLIC therapeutic schools that can handle these type of kids. Pay their teachers 200K to start and their TAs 100K to start. Go with a 1:2 ratio of adults. Raise the hell out of taxes. I don't care what it costs but kids who destroy classrooms, who assault teachers or threaten to assault teachers, etc, DO NOT BELONG IN GEN ED.


Some are saying that kids should be expelled for behavioral issues. Look at the post I was replying to.

You're right that some kids that are physically aggressive should be in more restrictive environments. But others just need more support in the gen ed classroom.

Unfortunately MCPS is stingy with paraeducators. And since they don't give 1:1 paraeducators benefits, you're often not getting great people in those positions. Simply treating all full-time paraeducators like normal employees would be a tremendous improvement.


Yes, Paras around the country should be paid more. And have benefits. Absolutely. And ALL kids who are physically aggressive need to be moved. Yesterday.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I feel for you, teachers!
Thank you for all your hard work and dedication. Know that you are very much appreciated at least by some kids and families!

Yes, parents must be more responsible and accountable. Schools should be able to suspend/expel kids for poor behavior. Consequences are a part of life and should be for school too. Would love to see Chromebooks minimized much more across the board.


Public schools are a right. Expulsion will never be an option for minor behavioral issues.


No one is saying we should expel kids for minor behavioral issues. We (teachers) are virtually ALL saying that kids who are physically aggressive should be placed into a more therapeutic/restrictive setting where they can get the help they need and deserve. I am personally saying that state boards of education need to open and staff many PUBLIC therapeutic schools that can handle these type of kids. Pay their teachers 200K to start and their TAs 100K to start. Go with a 1:2 ratio of adults. Raise the hell out of taxes. I don't care what it costs but kids who destroy classrooms, who assault teachers or threaten to assault teachers, etc, DO NOT BELONG IN GEN ED.


Some are saying that kids should be expelled for behavioral issues. Look at the post I was replying to.

You're right that some kids that are physically aggressive should be in more restrictive environments. But others just need more support in the gen ed classroom.

Unfortunately MCPS is stingy with paraeducators. And since they don't give 1:1 paraeducators benefits, you're often not getting great people in those positions. Simply treating all full-time paraeducators like normal employees would be a tremendous improvement.


Yes, Paras around the country should be paid more. And have benefits. Absolutely. And ALL kids who are physically aggressive need to be moved. Yesterday.


If their behaviors can't be managed with appropriate supports in the classroom, then yes. But MCPS doesn't get to warehouse challenging kids because they don't want tobe bothered to have to deal with them. Sorry, I know you don't want to be part of that, but it comes with the job. But yes, MCPS should be supporting you more.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I feel for you, teachers!
Thank you for all your hard work and dedication. Know that you are very much appreciated at least by some kids and families!

Yes, parents must be more responsible and accountable. Schools should be able to suspend/expel kids for poor behavior. Consequences are a part of life and should be for school too. Would love to see Chromebooks minimized much more across the board.


Public schools are a right. Expulsion will never be an option for minor behavioral issues.


No one is saying we should expel kids for minor behavioral issues. We (teachers) are virtually ALL saying that kids who are physically aggressive should be placed into a more therapeutic/restrictive setting where they can get the help they need and deserve. I am personally saying that state boards of education need to open and staff many PUBLIC therapeutic schools that can handle these type of kids. Pay their teachers 200K to start and their TAs 100K to start. Go with a 1:2 ratio of adults. Raise the hell out of taxes. I don't care what it costs but kids who destroy classrooms, who assault teachers or threaten to assault teachers, etc, DO NOT BELONG IN GEN ED.


Some are saying that kids should be expelled for behavioral issues. Look at the post I was replying to.

You're right that some kids that are physically aggressive should be in more restrictive environments. But others just need more support in the gen ed classroom.

Unfortunately MCPS is stingy with paraeducators. And since they don't give 1:1 paraeducators benefits, you're often not getting great people in those positions. Simply treating all full-time paraeducators like normal employees would be a tremendous improvement.


Yes, Paras around the country should be paid more. And have benefits. Absolutely. And ALL kids who are physically aggressive need to be moved. Yesterday.


If their behaviors can't be managed with appropriate supports in the classroom, then yes. But MCPS doesn't get to warehouse challenging kids because they don't want tobe bothered to have to deal with them. Sorry, I know you don't want to be part of that, but it comes with the job. But yes, MCPS should be supporting you more.


Why not? Would make education for the rest of the kids infinitely better and help retain teachers. Why destroy the entire system to help kids who almost certainly don’t want to be helped?
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