MCPS Teachers Quitting? Who is replacing them?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I feel for you, teachers!
Thank you for all your hard work and dedication. Know that you are very much appreciated at least by some kids and families!

Yes, parents must be more responsible and accountable. Schools should be able to suspend/expel kids for poor behavior. Consequences are a part of life and should be for school too. Would love to see Chromebooks minimized much more across the board.

Public schools are a right. Expulsion will never be an option for minor behavioral issues.

No one is saying we should expel kids for minor behavioral issues. We (teachers) are virtually ALL saying that kids who are physically aggressive should be placed into a more therapeutic/restrictive setting where they can get the help they need and deserve. I am personally saying that state boards of education need to open and staff many PUBLIC therapeutic schools that can handle these type of kids. Pay their teachers 200K to start and their TAs 100K to start. Go with a 1:2 ratio of adults. Raise the hell out of taxes. I don't care what it costs but kids who destroy classrooms, who assault teachers or threaten to assault teachers, etc, DO NOT BELONG IN GEN ED.

Some are saying that kids should be expelled for behavioral issues. Look at the post I was replying to.

You're right that some kids that are physically aggressive should be in more restrictive environments. But others just need more support in the gen ed classroom.

Unfortunately MCPS is stingy with paraeducators. And since they don't give 1:1 paraeducators benefits, you're often not getting great people in those positions. Simply treating all full-time paraeducators like normal employees would be a tremendous improvement.

Yes, Paras around the country should be paid more. And have benefits. Absolutely. And ALL kids who are physically aggressive need to be moved. Yesterday.

If their behaviors can't be managed with appropriate supports in the classroom, then yes. But MCPS doesn't get to warehouse challenging kids because they don't want tobe bothered to have to deal with them. Sorry, I know you don't want to be part of that, but it comes with the job. But yes, MCPS should be supporting you more.

Why not? Would make education for the rest of the kids infinitely better and help retain teachers. Why destroy the entire system to help kids who almost certainly don’t want to be helped?

Luckily we have state and federal laws to protect kids from people like you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I feel for you, teachers!
Thank you for all your hard work and dedication. Know that you are very much appreciated at least by some kids and families!

Yes, parents must be more responsible and accountable. Schools should be able to suspend/expel kids for poor behavior. Consequences are a part of life and should be for school too. Would love to see Chromebooks minimized much more across the board.

Public schools are a right. Expulsion will never be an option for minor behavioral issues.

No one is saying we should expel kids for minor behavioral issues. We (teachers) are virtually ALL saying that kids who are physically aggressive should be placed into a more therapeutic/restrictive setting where they can get the help they need and deserve. I am personally saying that state boards of education need to open and staff many PUBLIC therapeutic schools that can handle these type of kids. Pay their teachers 200K to start and their TAs 100K to start. Go with a 1:2 ratio of adults. Raise the hell out of taxes. I don't care what it costs but kids who destroy classrooms, who assault teachers or threaten to assault teachers, etc, DO NOT BELONG IN GEN ED.

Some are saying that kids should be expelled for behavioral issues. Look at the post I was replying to.

You're right that some kids that are physically aggressive should be in more restrictive environments. But others just need more support in the gen ed classroom.

Unfortunately MCPS is stingy with paraeducators. And since they don't give 1:1 paraeducators benefits, you're often not getting great people in those positions. Simply treating all full-time paraeducators like normal employees would be a tremendous improvement.

Yes, Paras around the country should be paid more. And have benefits. Absolutely. And ALL kids who are physically aggressive need to be moved. Yesterday.

If their behaviors can't be managed with appropriate supports in the classroom, then yes. But MCPS doesn't get to warehouse challenging kids because they don't want tobe bothered to have to deal with them. Sorry, I know you don't want to be part of that, but it comes with the job. But yes, MCPS should be supporting you more.

Why not? Would make education for the rest of the kids infinitely better and help retain teachers. Why destroy the entire system to help kids who almost certainly don’t want to be helped?

Luckily we have state and federal laws to protect kids from people like you.

Shame you’re not interested in protecting the majority of kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I was wondering how well MCPS was negotiating the teacher shortage.

How many teachers are quitting at your school this year?

What are the qualifications of your student's teachers?

My kids’ math teacher admitted to the students that they have to learn the material themselves before teaching it because there are problems they don’t even know how to solve.

I grew up in Asia. K-12 math teachers there typically hold a college or even graduate degree in mathematics.

It’s concerning that a math teacher here would struggle to solve basic problems at the level they are teaching.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I feel for you, teachers!
Thank you for all your hard work and dedication. Know that you are very much appreciated at least by some kids and families!

Yes, parents must be more responsible and accountable. Schools should be able to suspend/expel kids for poor behavior. Consequences are a part of life and should be for school too. Would love to see Chromebooks minimized much more across the board.

Public schools are a right. Expulsion will never be an option for minor behavioral issues.

No one is saying we should expel kids for minor behavioral issues. We (teachers) are virtually ALL saying that kids who are physically aggressive should be placed into a more therapeutic/restrictive setting where they can get the help they need and deserve. I am personally saying that state boards of education need to open and staff many PUBLIC therapeutic schools that can handle these type of kids. Pay their teachers 200K to start and their TAs 100K to start. Go with a 1:2 ratio of adults. Raise the hell out of taxes. I don't care what it costs but kids who destroy classrooms, who assault teachers or threaten to assault teachers, etc, DO NOT BELONG IN GEN ED.

Some are saying that kids should be expelled for behavioral issues. Look at the post I was replying to.

You're right that some kids that are physically aggressive should be in more restrictive environments. But others just need more support in the gen ed classroom.

Unfortunately MCPS is stingy with paraeducators. And since they don't give 1:1 paraeducators benefits, you're often not getting great people in those positions. Simply treating all full-time paraeducators like normal employees would be a tremendous improvement.

Yes, Paras around the country should be paid more. And have benefits. Absolutely. And ALL kids who are physically aggressive need to be moved. Yesterday.

If their behaviors can't be managed with appropriate supports in the classroom, then yes. But MCPS doesn't get to warehouse challenging kids because they don't want tobe bothered to have to deal with them. Sorry, I know you don't want to be part of that, but it comes with the job. But yes, MCPS should be supporting you more.

Why not? Would make education for the rest of the kids infinitely better and help retain teachers. Why destroy the entire system to help kids who almost certainly don’t want to be helped?

Luckily we have state and federal laws to protect kids from people like you.

Shame you’re not interested in protecting the majority of kids.

If you were interested in what's best for kids, you'd agree we need to get more support in classrooms. You just don't want it to be your problem to deal with.

[Anonymous]

We need to have mandatory job training programs for kids who would’ve dropped out at age 16. Now they have to stay until age 18 but I’m sure they’re the ones who cause the majority of attendance and behavior issues. Train them to do something useful and get them away from the classroom where they don’t want to be.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We need to have mandatory job training programs for kids who would’ve dropped out at age 16. Now they have to stay until age 18 but I’m sure they’re the ones who cause the majority of attendance and behavior issues. Train them to do something useful and get them away from the classroom where they don’t want to be.

At that age, the kids who want to drop out just skip class. They're not the ones creating major problems in classrooms, and they certainlu aren't going to go to "mandatory" job training programs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I feel for you, teachers!
Thank you for all your hard work and dedication. Know that you are very much appreciated at least by some kids and families!

Yes, parents must be more responsible and accountable. Schools should be able to suspend/expel kids for poor behavior. Consequences are a part of life and should be for school too. Would love to see Chromebooks minimized much more across the board.

Public schools are a right. Expulsion will never be an option for minor behavioral issues.

No one is saying we should expel kids for minor behavioral issues. We (teachers) are virtually ALL saying that kids who are physically aggressive should be placed into a more therapeutic/restrictive setting where they can get the help they need and deserve. I am personally saying that state boards of education need to open and staff many PUBLIC therapeutic schools that can handle these type of kids. Pay their teachers 200K to start and their TAs 100K to start. Go with a 1:2 ratio of adults. Raise the hell out of taxes. I don't care what it costs but kids who destroy classrooms, who assault teachers or threaten to assault teachers, etc, DO NOT BELONG IN GEN ED.

Some are saying that kids should be expelled for behavioral issues. Look at the post I was replying to.

You're right that some kids that are physically aggressive should be in more restrictive environments. But others just need more support in the gen ed classroom.

Unfortunately MCPS is stingy with paraeducators. And since they don't give 1:1 paraeducators benefits, you're often not getting great people in those positions. Simply treating all full-time paraeducators like normal employees would be a tremendous improvement.

Yes, Paras around the country should be paid more. And have benefits. Absolutely. And ALL kids who are physically aggressive need to be moved. Yesterday.

If their behaviors can't be managed with appropriate supports in the classroom, then yes. But MCPS doesn't get to warehouse challenging kids because they don't want tobe bothered to have to deal with them. Sorry, I know you don't want to be part of that, but it comes with the job. But yes, MCPS should be supporting you more.

Why not? Would make education for the rest of the kids infinitely better and help retain teachers. Why destroy the entire system to help kids who almost certainly don’t want to be helped?

This. Why do the rights of a few trump the rights of the majority?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I was wondering how well MCPS was negotiating the teacher shortage.

How many teachers are quitting at your school this year?

What are the qualifications of your student's teachers?

My kids’ math teacher admitted to the students that they have to learn the material themselves before teaching it because there are problems they don’t even know how to solve.

I grew up in Asia. K-12 math teachers there typically hold a college or even graduate degree in mathematics.

It’s concerning that a math teacher here would struggle to solve basic problems at the level they are teaching.

It’s because the school took a non-math specialist teacher and threw them into teaching math. Happens all the time

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We need to have mandatory job training programs for kids who would’ve dropped out at age 16. Now they have to stay until age 18 but I’m sure they’re the ones who cause the majority of attendance and behavior issues. Train them to do something useful and get them away from the classroom where they don’t want to be.

At that age, the kids who want to drop out just skip class. They're not the ones creating major problems in classrooms, and they certainlu aren't going to go to "mandatory" job training programs.

School should be optional after age 16. What is happening now is that many kids don’t want to be at school. We are passing them for doing nothing but no other way to get them to graduate and move on. It is mostly optics.

[Anonymous]

The SESES program is a failure at my school. Most of those kids should not be mainstreamed. 95% of the fights in my highschool are caused by the SESES kids. The people working with them don’t care and don’t know how to handle them. The SESES teachers and paras just huddle in their classrooms and offices doing nothing while the kids roam the hallways and cause chaos. Kids are routinely passed just so teachers can avoid having to deal with them again. MCPS can do better

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I was wondering how well MCPS was negotiating the teacher shortage.

How many teachers are quitting at your school this year?

What are the qualifications of your student's teachers?

My kids’ math teacher admitted to the students that they have to learn the material themselves before teaching it because there are problems they don’t even know how to solve.

I grew up in Asia. K-12 math teachers there typically hold a college or even graduate degree in mathematics.

It’s concerning that a math teacher here would struggle to solve basic problems at the level they are teaching.

Asians value education and they teach their children how to behave. Educators are revered and there would be hell to pay if the kids stepped out of line. Things are much different here these days.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We need to have mandatory job training programs for kids who would’ve dropped out at age 16. Now they have to stay until age 18 but I’m sure they’re the ones who cause the majority of attendance and behavior issues. Train them to do something useful and get them away from the classroom where they don’t want to be.

At that age, the kids who want to drop out just skip class. They're not the ones creating major problems in classrooms, and they certainlu aren't going to go to "mandatory" job training programs.

School should be optional after age 16. What is happening now is that many kids don’t want to be at school. We are passing them for doing nothing but no other way to get them to graduate and move on. It is mostly optics.

You should look at both the year and the job market.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I feel for you, teachers!
Thank you for all your hard work and dedication. Know that you are very much appreciated at least by some kids and families!

Yes, parents must be more responsible and accountable. Schools should be able to suspend/expel kids for poor behavior. Consequences are a part of life and should be for school too. Would love to see Chromebooks minimized much more across the board.

Public schools are a right. Expulsion will never be an option for minor behavioral issues.

No one is saying we should expel kids for minor behavioral issues. We (teachers) are virtually ALL saying that kids who are physically aggressive should be placed into a more therapeutic/restrictive setting where they can get the help they need and deserve. I am personally saying that state boards of education need to open and staff many PUBLIC therapeutic schools that can handle these type of kids. Pay their teachers 200K to start and their TAs 100K to start. Go with a 1:2 ratio of adults. Raise the hell out of taxes. I don't care what it costs but kids who destroy classrooms, who assault teachers or threaten to assault teachers, etc, DO NOT BELONG IN GEN ED.

Some are saying that kids should be expelled for behavioral issues. Look at the post I was replying to.

You're right that some kids that are physically aggressive should be in more restrictive environments. But others just need more support in the gen ed classroom.

Unfortunately MCPS is stingy with paraeducators. And since they don't give 1:1 paraeducators benefits, you're often not getting great people in those positions. Simply treating all full-time paraeducators like normal employees would be a tremendous improvement.

Yes, Paras around the country should be paid more. And have benefits. Absolutely. And ALL kids who are physically aggressive need to be moved. Yesterday.

If their behaviors can't be managed with appropriate supports in the classroom, then yes. But MCPS doesn't get to warehouse challenging kids because they don't want tobe bothered to have to deal with them. Sorry, I know you don't want to be part of that, but it comes with the job. But yes, MCPS should be supporting you more.

Why not? Would make education for the rest of the kids infinitely better and help retain teachers. Why destroy the entire system to help kids who almost certainly don’t want to be helped?

This. Why do the rights of a few trump the rights of the majority?

Because protecting minorities from oppression by the majority is what societies do. Did you sleep through civics and government classes?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I was wondering how well MCPS was negotiating the teacher shortage.

How many teachers are quitting at your school this year?

What are the qualifications of your student's teachers?

My kids’ math teacher admitted to the students that they have to learn the material themselves before teaching it because there are problems they don’t even know how to solve.

I grew up in Asia. K-12 math teachers there typically hold a college or even graduate degree in mathematics.

It’s concerning that a math teacher here would struggle to solve basic problems at the level they are teaching.

They are likely referring to the fact that they must teach students solve the Math problems in certain new ways.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I feel for you, teachers!
Thank you for all your hard work and dedication. Know that you are very much appreciated at least by some kids and families!

Yes, parents must be more responsible and accountable. Schools should be able to suspend/expel kids for poor behavior. Consequences are a part of life and should be for school too. Would love to see Chromebooks minimized much more across the board.

Public schools are a right. Expulsion will never be an option for minor behavioral issues.

No one is saying we should expel kids for minor behavioral issues. We (teachers) are virtually ALL saying that kids who are physically aggressive should be placed into a more therapeutic/restrictive setting where they can get the help they need and deserve. I am personally saying that state boards of education need to open and staff many PUBLIC therapeutic schools that can handle these type of kids. Pay their teachers 200K to start and their TAs 100K to start. Go with a 1:2 ratio of adults. Raise the hell out of taxes. I don't care what it costs but kids who destroy classrooms, who assault teachers or threaten to assault teachers, etc, DO NOT BELONG IN GEN ED.

Some are saying that kids should be expelled for behavioral issues. Look at the post I was replying to.

You're right that some kids that are physically aggressive should be in more restrictive environments. But others just need more support in the gen ed classroom.

Unfortunately MCPS is stingy with paraeducators. And since they don't give 1:1 paraeducators benefits, you're often not getting great people in those positions. Simply treating all full-time paraeducators like normal employees would be a tremendous improvement.

Yes, Paras around the country should be paid more. And have benefits. Absolutely. And ALL kids who are physically aggressive need to be moved. Yesterday.

If their behaviors can't be managed with appropriate supports in the classroom, then yes. But MCPS doesn't get to warehouse challenging kids because they don't want tobe bothered to have to deal with them. Sorry, I know you don't want to be part of that, but it comes with the job. But yes, MCPS should be supporting you more.

Why not? Would make education for the rest of the kids infinitely better and help retain teachers. Why destroy the entire system to help kids who almost certainly don’t want to be helped?

This. Why do the rights of a few trump the rights of the majority?

Because protecting minorities from oppression by the majority is what societies do. Did you sleep through civics and government classes?

Looks more like the minority is oppressing the majority in these cases.