Fire in upper NW?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
The only person in custody is Daron Wint. All others have been released per the Cheif on CNN.

Unbelievable! They were hanging out with a wanted fugitive and the police couldn't figure out how to charge them with a crime?

I CAN'T STAND IT

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Even if the assistant wasn't involved why in the hell did he take a pic of the money. This makes me so angry. How irresponsible even if none of this ever happened.

Just an idiot who has probably never seen that much cash before. People really into instagram and facebook take and share pics of everything-their breakfast, their cat, their metro bus, the weather, their poop. every thing.

[Anonymous]

Anyone know whether Daron had full dreds at the arraignment? Goes to identity of person driving the porsche at 1:30 on NY Ave.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If this assistant idiot turned out to un knowingly tipped these guys off with his big mouth / instagram .....

I'm wondering if he realized this in someway and was ashamed/scared, resulting in the tears and misrepresentation

This makes sense. Still makes me angry that he snapped pics of the cash.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The assistant admitted lying to the police about when to get and where to leave the package. Why would they do this?

Assistant sent a text to a friend of the stack of cash he was to transport.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems that he F-ed up and delayed the drop. He lied about what he did, when he did it, and how he handled it. Again, maybe my temper has me thinking unclearly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The assistant admitted lying to the police about when to get and where to leave the package. Why would they do this?

Assistant sent a text to a friend of the stack of cash he was to transport.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems that he F-ed up and delayed the drop. He lied about what he did, when he did it, and how he handled it. Again, maybe my temper has me thinking unclearly.

Anyone have a link to his IG?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:now that he has been caught and arrested along with his brother and several other people, is it reasonable to assume that he had accomplices? I am thinking he and his brothers were the ones actually in the house/who committed the kidnapping, extortion, torture, murder, arson, robbery and then there was someone else (I am guessing one of the women, for no particular reason just a hunch since women are generally seen as less threatening than men) who drove the suspects to the S house or was somehow involved in helping the other suspect(s) (the one(s) who did not take the Porsche) get away from the scene.

Here is what I think happened (no revelations here, just what seems to me to be pretty obvious based on what we know): DW and/or his brother went up to the door Wed afternoon, possibly wearing some type of uniform/disguise--dressed to appear as utility workers or construction workers or delivery men, etc-- Housekeeper (VF) was home w/ Philip. Housekeeper answered the door and they pushed past her into the house, leaving no sign of a forced entry. They quickly subdued/tied up VF and PS, forced VF to call AS and tell her there was some emergency w Philip. AS rushes home in the Porsche (which is why it was reportedly seen speeding Wed afternoon). AS returns, DW subdues her, forces her to call SS and get him home ASAP, he receives call while at dojo in Chantilly, goes home earlier than planned, telling other housekeeper (NG) that AS needs him to watch Philip because AS is going out Wed night. SS returns home and finds AS, PS and VF bound, being threatened, he doesn't attempt to fight off DW/accomplice for fear of them hurting the others if he resists them. The whole ordeal plays out over Wed. night and Thurs morning, with SS desperately and repeatedly attempting to get DW/accomplice what they want ($$, valuables). They use threats/torture of PS, AS, VF to compel/force SS to make all these calls in attempts to get as much $$ as possible together, they also ask him who might be showing up at the house Thurs. who could potentially interrupt/interfere with the $$ drop so that is why SS is allowed/forced to call NG and tell her not to come Thurs. SS tries til the end to get them more and more $$ but he is not able to get more than the 40k delivered and DW/accomplice are upset that they can't get more out of him and possibly feel that they need to wrap the whole thing up and get out of there finally (perhaps having VF's husband come by the house spurs them to get out faster as well) so, being the psychopaths and hateful, worthless people that they are, they murder everyone and set the house on fire. DW drives off in the Porsche, i wonder if he was anticipating that he might get caught even sooner than he did, maybe even that he'd be caught while driving the Porsche and he thought that would be a dramatic way to go out. The accomplice(s) either take off in another vehicle (someone--I'm guessing a woman--picked any accomplice(s) of DW's up in a different car). They all meet back up afterward in MD and go and immediately spend their cash on whatever...drugs, strip club, prostitutes, something not easily traced...the end?

Late on this but I think you've nailed it. They may also have hidden some of the money.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:DC Code § 22-1806:

"Whoever shall be convicted of being an accessory after the fact to any crime punishable by death shall be punished by imprisonment for not more than 20 years. Whoever shall be convicted of being accessory after the fact to any crime punishable by imprisonment shall be punished by a fine or imprisonment, or both, as the case may be, not more than 1/2 the maximum fine or imprisonment, or both, to which the principal offender may be subjected."

- This is inherently a little ambiguous in that DC has not had a death penalty since 1981 (last person executed was 1957). However, setting aside that first sentence, an accessory after the fact is subject to 1/2 the penalty of the principal. In other words, it is a felony punishable by big prison time.

- To establish "accessory after the fact," state must show that accessory acted personally to aid/assist felon to avoid detection or apprehension. My guess is that evidence at this time is ambiguous and that everyone in the car/truck said, "we are taking him to surrender."

Does that means if Wint gets 4 life sentences to be served consecutively, his buddy from last night face up to 2 life sentences? Seems like the only reason they released them is to use as a chip to get Wint to cooperate, because it would seem easy to convict all of them as accessories after the fact

[Anonymous]

Alright this has gotten so confusing. I can understand if NG spoke to the assistant after the drop off and found out about the cash at this time, and subsequently spoke to the media about it, then media reports about her "knowledge of the 40k and its purpose" imply she knew beforehand when she didn't - I believe it is realistic that she may have spoken to the assistant because they had each others numbers and knew each other. It's realistic that they could have a relationship as "colleagues" and were in touch after learning of the fire/murders.

I do not see how NG and the assistant and DW & friends could be in cahoots. That is a lot of people to split up 40k. She must have found out that tidbit after the fire/murders.

[Anonymous]

The money was headed there before the abduction is how I read it. There is something very strange going on with that money. the assistant didn't lie about it because he was embarrassed by the pictures. He lied about it for a reason that isn't yet clear. not saying he's involved in the murders, just saying there's something going on with that business.

[Anonymous]

Affidavit says crime began at 6pm on Wednesday. Could that just mean they are sure that SS was home at that time and are starting from when everyone was there? I feel like they got inside the house before husband came home.

[Anonymous]

totally agree re timing. At least, as of Amy's 5:30 call. Doubt Vera would have left on the nose of 3:00 p.m., so that is fuzzy, but 5:30 seems like a fixed point.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The money was headed there before the abduction is how I read it. There is something very strange going on with that money. the assistant didn't lie about it because he was embarrassed by the pictures. He lied about it for a reason that isn't yet clear. not saying he's involved in the murders, just saying there's something going on with that business.

Could be an odd intersection of 2 different sets of illicit behaviors.

[Anonymous]

anybody else wish we had the ability to "like" posts on this thread?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Don't you think the defense will want a change of venue?

There is no basis for a change of venue request by the defense. All you need is one jury pool of people who aren't familiar with the case. Many people in DC do not watch the news or read the paper, so this will not be an issue. For example, my wife is completely unaware of this case (why would I want to tell her?). Most of my colleagues at work are busy working and aren't aware of it.